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Title: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on June 29, 2017, 02:33:58 PM
Since people want to derail the Trump Winning thread with bitching, I figured I'd open another venue for that so the complaints can be redirected here. 

There are a few things I don't like about what he does. 

1) Sarah Huckabee Sanders.  She may be brilliant, I don't know.  What I do know is she sounds like an uneducated hick.  I heard her today defending the Psycho Joe tweets.  She said "this is a president who faights faahhur with faahhhur"  Just awful. 

2) Distancing himself from Newt and Rudy.  He could use Rudy's counsel in particular.

3) Attacks on people that I see as petty.  Psycho Joe and Blood Face were essentially irrelevant.  The number of people actually watching their silly little show is statistically insignificant.  His attacks give them attention. 

That's about it, though.  I'm pretty okay with everything else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpA5quB-_ME
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: GH2001 on June 29, 2017, 02:37:11 PM
Huckster Sanders

Kushner (surprise surprise)

Agree with the distancing from newt and rudy. And also John Bolton and Sebastian Gorka. Each of these are highly valuable people.

The silly feuds. They just aren't worth it but I also get that his ego and pride are the size of China. It's trump being trump. Still don't like it.


Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 29, 2017, 03:05:29 PM
Trump gonna' be Trump.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: AUJarhead on June 30, 2017, 09:20:09 AM
Jim Mattis.

Just kidding.

I really meant twitter.  Please, someone, anyone, for the love of God, have him stop tweeting.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2017, 09:27:43 AM
Jim Mattis.

Just kidding.

I really meant twitter.  Please, someone, anyone, for the love of God, have him stop tweeting.

Don't think it's gonna happen. 

He's gonna do what he's gonna do.  He didn't listen to people who told him how to run his campaign in a traditional manner, who told him to calm down, to apologize, to be more 'dignified.'  And he won.  His way worked.  He's not going to listen to those voices now that he won. 

He knows it turns people like us off.  He also knows we're going to vote for him anyway because his policies will turn the economy around, make the country safer and improve life in general.  So we'll cringe and still vote for him because it's good for us.  He's striking blows for that blue collar base that hates the liberal left and want him to punch them in the mouth.  For every one of us who goes "uuugggghhhh..." there are four or five who secretly go "Hell YEAH!! you tell those pricks!!"
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Godfather on June 30, 2017, 09:36:40 AM
He knows it turns people like us off.  He also knows we're going to vote for him anyway because his policies will turn the economy around, make the country safer and improve life in general.  So we'll cringe and still vote for him because it's good for us.  He's striking blows for that blue collar base that hates the liberal left and want him to punch them in the mouth.  For every one of us who goes "uuugggghhhh..." there are four or five who secretly go "Hell YEAH!! you tell those pricks!!"
Troof
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: wesfau2 on June 30, 2017, 10:44:12 AM
He's striking blows for that blue collar base

You talking rhetoric or policy here?
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: CCTAU on June 30, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
You talking rhetoric or policy here?

YES!
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
You talking rhetoric or policy here?

Both to a point.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 30, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
Don't think it's gonna happen. 

He's gonna do what he's gonna do.  He didn't listen to people who told him how to run his campaign in a traditional manner, who told him to calm down, to apologize, to be more 'dignified.'  And he won.  His way worked.  He's not going to listen to those voices now that he won. 

He knows it turns people like us off.  He also knows we're going to vote for him anyway because his policies will turn the economy around, make the country safer and improve life in general.  So we'll cringe and still vote for him because it's good for us.  He's striking blows for that blue collar base that hates the liberal left and want him to punch them in the mouth.  For every one of us who goes "uuugggghhhh..." there are four or five who secretly go "Hell YEAH!! you tell those pricks!!"
Last paragraph nails it.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: The Prowler on June 30, 2017, 04:58:54 PM
He's a weak, narcissistic, sociopath, he has the Sadim touch (everything he touches eventually turns to shit), and he owes a lot of money ($300M) to and has 4 mortgages through the Russian laundering bank, Deutsche.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
He's a weak, narcissistic, sociopath, he has the Sadim touch (everything he touches eventually turns to shit), and he owes a lot of money ($300M) to and has 4 mortgages through the Russian bank, Deutsche.

Dumber than fucking a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: GH2001 on June 30, 2017, 08:15:49 PM
Dumber than fucking a chainsaw.

Deutsche Bank is a German bank based in Frankfurt. They are one of my clients and I deal with them weekly. I guess I should let them know they are really in Russia.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 30, 2017, 08:38:08 PM
Dumber than fucking a chainsaw.
My Husqvarna is revving to get at you.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: The Prowler on June 30, 2017, 09:39:57 PM
Deutsche Bank is a German bank based in Frankfurt. They are one of my clients and I deal with them weekly. I guess I should let them know they are really in Russia.
They already know that they're laundering Russian money
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: wesfau2 on June 30, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
Both to a point.

I'll surely regret this, but mind fleshing out identifying any policy that Trump is pushing that is "striking blows for the blue collar base?"

Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on July 01, 2017, 12:55:53 AM
I'll surely regret this, but mind fleshing out identifying any policy that Trump is pushing that is "striking blows for the blue collar base?"

Repeal Obamacare.

Travel ban.

Those are some wants. 

You've already made your mind up so there's not really any point in this exercise. 
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: wesfau2 on July 01, 2017, 01:29:25 AM
We're not talking "wants."  You said he was striking blows for the "blue collar base."  Blows are action so, what action do we have on:

Repeal Obamacare.

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Travel ban.


Follow-up question what "blows" struck above equate to wins/gains by blue-collar America?
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on July 01, 2017, 11:10:02 AM
We're not talking "wants."  You said he was striking blows for the "blue collar base."  Blows are action so, what action do we have on:

Follow-up question what "blows" struck above equate to wins/gains by blue-collar America?

Winning!
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: The Prowler on July 01, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
Winning!
Funny, I've yet to see much of that.

(https://pics.me.me/make-america-great-again-4210-gra-opn-i-was-told-17861056.png)
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: CCTAU on July 01, 2017, 06:33:24 PM
Funny, I've yet to see much of that.

(https://pics.me.me/make-america-great-again-4210-gra-opn-i-was-told-17861056.png)


Well, you aren't very bright. So that is to be expected.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: The Prowler on July 01, 2017, 06:48:54 PM

Well, you aren't very bright. So that is to be expected.
^Says a Trump supporter^  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :haha:
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: CCTAU on July 01, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
^Says a Trump supporter^  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :haha:


I've seeen this type of response before.


It's usually from a butthurt snowflake!


Until Trump does something I did not elect him for, I will support him.


Winning!
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: GH2001 on July 01, 2017, 10:42:50 PM

I've seeen this type of response before.


It's usually from a butthurt snowflake!


Until Trump does something I did not elect him for, I will support him.


Winning!

And funny coming from a supporter of a guy like Bernie who has a majority of his support from college kids and hippies. Real high end crowd there.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: War Eagle!!! on July 02, 2017, 09:02:15 AM
I'll surely regret this, but mind fleshing out identifying any policy that Trump is pushing that is "striking blows for the blue collar base?"

I would think the focusing on blue collar, factory jobs would suffice to meet this request. There has been quite a number of companies committed to keeping manufacturing here in the US, or bringing manufacturing back to the US since Trump was elected.

Also, Trump's dealing with NATO may not be striking blows exactly "for" the blue-collar workers, but it is a position that works inline with what blue-collar workers stand for.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: The Prowler on July 02, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
I would think the focusing on blue collar, factory jobs would suffice to meet this request. There has been quite a number of companies committed to keeping manufacturing here in the US, or bringing manufacturing back to the US since Trump was elected.
You mean like Carrier?
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: wesfau2 on July 03, 2017, 12:27:49 AM
I would think the focusing on blue collar, factory jobs would suffice to meet this request. There has been quite a number of companies committed to keeping manufacturing here in the US, or bringing manufacturing back to the US since Trump was elected.

I'm willing to hear this argument, can you point out specifics for me?

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Also, Trump's dealing with NATO may not be striking blows exactly "for" the blue-collar workers, but it is a position that works inline with what blue-collar workers stand for.

I think this is closer to being correct, but mostly in a "they don't understand it, so attack it" sense.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on July 03, 2017, 07:37:57 AM
I'm willing to hear this argument, can you point out specifics for me?

I think this is closer to being correct, but mostly in a "they don't understand it, so attack it" sense.

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/d21c7874734ea11eb78a8c66e3e43cdf/tumblr_o6arsgV56y1vnyftoo1_500.gif)

I know you're not a raging asshole, but the arrogance that drips from your response is egregious.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 03, 2017, 09:39:19 AM
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I know you're not a raging asshole, but the arrogance that drips from your response is egregious.
Have you never met Wes?
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: AUChizad on July 05, 2017, 09:21:09 AM
I know you're not a raging asshole, but the arrogance that drips from your response is egregious.
Asking someone to defend and clarify their political positions in the political forum "egregiously" "drips arrogance"?

This doesn't speak well of your convictions. Go ahead and tell me that's arrogant of me.

That said, War Eagle is capable of nuance that you're not, and wes's post was directed at him, so please pipe down while the adults are talking.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: Kaos on July 05, 2017, 09:35:58 AM
Asking someone to defend and clarify their political positions in the political forum "egregiously" "drips arrogance"?

This doesn't speak well of your convictions. Go ahead and tell me that's arrogant of me.

That said, War Eagle is capable of nuance that you're not, and wes's post was directed at him, so please pipe down while the adults are talking.

Ahhhh... go make sweet love to a goat.  Kind of ironic for the king of the blundering hammer to be lecturing anyone on "nuance." 

It wasn't asking someone to defend nor clarify. 

The "I'm willing to hear this argument"  statement is patronizing and arrogant.  It essentially says "I am right, but I will entertain your stupidity long enough to show you why you're wrong." 

The second statement was patronizing in general toward anyone not considered as genteel as W.  It essentially says "all of those people are stupid and don't understand their position.  If I could just educate them, they would be so much better off." 

And I wasn't talking to YOU anyways.   
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: GH2001 on July 05, 2017, 10:56:26 AM
Asking someone to defend and clarify their political positions in the political forum "egregiously" "drips arrogance"?

This doesn't speak well of your convictions. Go ahead and tell me that's arrogant of me.

That said, War Eagle is capable of nuance that you're not, and wes's post was directed at him, so please pipe down while the adults are talking.

I think he may have meant the "blue collar average joe trump voters don't understand any foreign policy so just attack" line.
Title: Re: Things I don't like about Trump
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 05, 2017, 06:29:02 PM
I usually agree with Kaos but saying that Wes is not a raging asshole is taking things a bit far.