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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on July 09, 2016, 11:01:01 PM
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Kind of a night of reflection and soul searching for the Snags. I'm a bit of a gym rat. I'm 55 years old and ever since I was 17-18 years old, I've lived in a gym or been dedicated to some form of physical endeavor like tennis or Sprint Triathlons etc. I don't say that to pimp myself or try to portray myself in any false light. I'm fit. But I'm also 240 with a killer set of man boobs. Just trying to stay 3 steps ahead of the Grim Reaper.
I say that to lead into the fact that the gym I've been at for the last 7-8 years is a small facility that's more like family than anything else. The owners are Steve and Linda Cunningham. The gym is Synergy Health & Fitness. Husband and wife team who do it right. It's a gym where personal training and boot camp type classes are at the forefront. It's a place where you will never walk in there without one of the staff calling you out by name to just say "Hey" or encourage you. So why this post? Cool story bro?
Tonight, their son Steven, who played basketball at Troy, got married. The service and reception was at a great place in downtown Dothan called The Grande. Most everyone from the gym was there. The bride and groom's friends, family and church members were there. The entire event was awesome.
Steve, Linda & Steven Cunningham are African American. The bride is from Belize. I'm estimating there were 200 to 250 people in this small venue. I would estimate the crowd to be 50/50 white and black. This gym is like family. We all know each other. We all know about and celebrate each other's triumphs and offer support in the bad times. Tonight was a celebration. We were in close quarters with white, black and other nationalities. It was freaking awesome. The way this and numerous other gatherings over the years with these same people have been.
I would never have posted something like this had it not been for the last few days. Racial tension....I don't get it. Racism...I just fucking don't understand it. Hating someone for whatever reason takes effort. I don't have the extra time and energy or desire to participate. What good does it do? On either side. What do you gain?
These are people I see and talk to and sweat with 5-6 days a week. I consider them family, regardless of race. I love all of them like brothers and sisters. I watch what this country is going through and thank God I live where I do. If this shit hits this area....Belize...St. Marteen....Antigua...Aruba......
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Sadly our president is condoning and promoting this shit. Normal people have no issues. Perpetual unsuccessful victims and ignorant college students eat this shit up.
Time to Waterhouse and spray ANY person who tries to shut down the streets.
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Time to Waterhouse and spray ANY person who tries to shut down the streets.
Yes, Bull Connor, let's definitely try to suppress the 1st Amendment rights of the citizenry.
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Yes, Bull Connor, let's definitely try to suppress the 1st Amendment rights of the citizenry.
You are moron. There are no first amendment rights to shut down roads and interstates that are not part of their permits to March. You and those like you ARE the damn problem!
Criminals cannot hide behind a false defense! But I understand, it's what you do!
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You are moron. There are no first amendment rights to shut down roads and interstates that are not part of their permits to March. You and those like you ARE the damn problem!
Criminals cannot hide behind a false defense! But I understand, it's what you do!
Were you similarly incensed by the march to Selma?
There is, whether or not you want to admit it, a problem with the interaction between the police and the citizens in black communities. The citizens lack a viable platform from which to speak and garner attention. They are getting attention in the only way that they can: create a media spectacle.
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Don't give a shit about Selma.
Did they have a permit?
These people do not have a right to claim 1st amendment while trampling my rights.
And NO there is no problem between cops and thugs. Thugs get it bad! This shit they are protesting is for know. Thugs and shitheads within their communities. Th statistics show more than bite people killed by cops. But who cares? You can't stir white people to March for a thug tags got his!
All you see here is future profit. These people are pathetic. When are you and yours good nana invade Chicago and save those victims?
BLM is SHIT!
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Were you similarly incensed by the march to Selma?
There is, whether or not you want to admit it, a problem with the interaction between the police and the citizens in black communities. The citizens lack a viable platform from which to speak and garner attention. They are getting attention in the only way that they can: create a media spectacle.
The problem is that you (the collective you) misinterpret the problem.
The issue isn't with the police. It's with the head bobbing, loud mouthed, insolent, combative, confrontational nature of the populace. They (as a group) don't cooperate, don't comply, act with disrespect and have no appreciation for the service provided by law enforcement.
The problem isn't the cops. It's the "fuck you mr man" sense of entitlement and air of suspicion that defines those communities.
And yes. Shit like "marching" which doesn't do of prove a goddam thing (nor does shouting or waving dumbass signs) only exacerbates the problem.
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Were you similarly incensed by the march to Selma?
There is, whether or not you want to admit it, a problem with the interaction between the police and the citizens in black communities. The citizens lack a viable platform from which to speak and garner attention. They are getting attention in the only way that they can: create a media spectacle.
March to Selma ?
I missed that one.
I remember the Selma to Montgomery march.
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Don't give a shit about Selma.
Did they have a permit?
These people do not have a right to claim 1st amendment while trampling my rights.
And NO there is no problem between cops and thugs. Thugs get it bad! This shit they are protesting is for know. Thugs and shitheads within their communities. Th statistics show more than bite people killed by cops. But who cares? You can't stir white people to March for a thug tags got his!
All you see here is future profit. These people are pathetic. When are you and yours good nana invade Chicago and save those victims?
BLM is SHIT!
I can't agree with a few points here. First, I don't think this shit they are protesting is for know. Second, you show me the statistics where more than bite people get killed by cops. Those bite people deserve it anyway. I also think you could stir white people to March for a thug tags got his. And last, my good nana is too old to invade Chicago.
I'm assuming auto correct, she is a bitch, no?
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Is chucking Molotov cocktails at the fuzz covered under the 1st amendment? Is looting a store an act which remedies an injury? At what point does one's right to free speech cross over into anarchy and rioting?
These weren't addressed clearly enough in my business law classes to give me a point of reference to sympathise with the acts we've seen carried out in the "name of justice".
Damn my Huntingdon education.
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Is chucking Molotov cocktails at the fuzz covered under the 1st amendment? Is looting a store an act which remedies an injury? At what point does one's right to free speech cross over into anarchy and rioting?
These weren't addressed clearly enough in my business law classes to give me a point of reference to sympathise with the acts we've seen carried out in the "name of justice".
Damn my Huntingdon education.
This says a mouful.^^^ Protest is one thing. An absolute right. Burning, killing, looting etc. has no place in the equation.
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This says a mouful.^^^ Protest is one thing. An absolute right. Burning, killing, looting etc. has no place in the equation.
Knowing what the fuck you're protesting, having some basis in reality and not shouting lame ass taglines helps too.
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Were you similarly incensed by the march to Selma?
There is, whether or not you want to admit it, a problem with the interaction between the police and the citizens in black communities. The citizens lack a viable platform from which to speak and garner attention. They are getting attention in the only way that they can: create a media spectacle.
"That long hair just cant cover up his..white guilt"
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Is chucking Molotov cocktails at the fuzz covered under the 1st amendment? Is looting a store an act which remedies an injury? At what point does one's right to free speech cross over into anarchy and rioting?
These weren't addressed clearly enough in my business law classes to give me a point of reference to sympathise with the acts we've seen carried out in the "name of justice".
Damn my Huntingdon education.
I think a Molotov cocktail is an effective tool in conveying a message, as long as it's thrown from a viable platform.
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Knowing what the fuck you're protesting, having some basis in reality and not shouting lame ass taglines helps too.
You think "pigs in a blanket!" is lame?
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You think "pigs in a blanket!" is lame?
I don't know about lame, but they sure are delicious. I can eat a plate full of them.
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I don't know about lame, but they sure are delicious. I can eat a plate full of them.
This is why I like you. Right here ^^
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I can't agree with a few points here. First, I don't think this shoot they are protesting is for know. Second, you show me the statistics where more than bite people get killed by cops. Those bite people deserve it anyway. I also think you could stir white people to March for a thug tags got his. And last, my good nana is too old to invade Chicago.
I'm assuming auto correct, she is a bitch, no?
My bite nana hates you.
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There is, whether or not you want to admit it, a problem with the interaction between the police and the citizens in black communities.
And this is all 100% the fault of the police how exactly? Perfect example: In Mobile, an officer shoots and kills a black kid that was in a stolen car with stolen items inside, and attempted to pull a stolen gun from his waistband. One of the kids in the car with him even says publicly that his friend fucked up. The community he lived in is absolutely outraged. People that weren't even there can't wait to tell the media what did or didn't happen. That's not a problem with the police. That's a problem with mentality, and there isn't anything you can do to change that. When people have already decided that they want to be offended and outraged by anything that happens, facts be damned, there isn't anything you can do to change their mind.
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And this is all 100% the fault of the police how exactly?
There's enough stupid in this thread already. Don't compound the problem by putting words in my mouth.
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There's enough stupid in this thread already. Don't compound the problem by putting words in my mouth.
It's pretty much what you said in not those exact words barrister.
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It's pretty much what you said in not those exact words barrister.
It most certainly is not.
I said that there is a problem with community/police interaction.
I also said that the community lacks a voice.
There are no words of blame for either side in my post, despite what you infer.
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And this is all 100% the fault of the police how exactly? Perfect example: In Mobile, an officer shoots and kills a black kid that was in a stolen car with stolen items inside, and attempted to pull a stolen gun from his waistband. One of the kids in the car with him even says publicly that his friend fucked up. The community he lived in is absolutely outraged. People that weren't even there can't wait to tell the media what did or didn't happen. That's not a problem with the police. That's a problem with mentality, and there isn't anything you can do to change that. When people have already decided that they want to be offended and outraged by anything that happens, facts be damned, there isn't anything you can do to change their mind.
He was a good kid. Liked everybody. Went to church. Loved his momma. Everybody loved him. Sweet kid.
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It most certainly is not.
I said that there is a problem with community/police interaction.
I also said that the community lacks a voice.
There are no words of blame for either side in my post, despite what you infer.
"Lacks a voice"
SERIOUSLY? There is a constant yowling that never ends from that 'community'
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I don't know about lame, but they sure are delicious. I can eat a plate full of them.
They're the frozen kind, but you'd never know it.
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You told me my son was here
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It most certainly is not.
I said that there is a problem with community/police interaction.
I also said that the community lacks a voice.
There are no words of blame for either side in my post, despite what you infer.
I think I get what you are saying but I just don't agree. They have a "voice" through the community "meetings" and protests which are often media covered.
I think we are piling a lot of issues in here and blaming the cops. Cops can't help with the low education, lack of discipline in the home and bad economy in these areas. They are there to catch bad guys.
A community is like a drunk. Gotta want to help itself before anyone can help. Unfortunately, it doesn't want that most times. Self discipline and sacrifice ain't easy on us humans.
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I can't agree with a few points here. First, I don't think this shit they are protesting is for know. Second, you show me the statistics where more than bite people get killed by cops. Those bite people deserve it anyway. I also think you could stir white people to March for a thug tags got his. And last, my good nana is too old to invade Chicago.
I'm assuming auto correct, she is a bitch, no?
Sorry. Was on my tablet in Doha on layover back to US. Was not very awake at the time. But I'm sure bite people are dangerous. With all the rabies and stuff going around.
My original statement stands, hose and gas the shit out of them. Regular tax payers enjoy the use of the roads they pay for also. I am 100% positive they could never get a permit for I-85, I-75, or I-285. Yet there they were...
HOSE THEM. GAS THEM. Send them back to the street they had a permit for. Rules, we have them.
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My $.02
The #BLM campaign and the marching is creating racial tension. People act as if it is only white cops killing the victim when in reality it has been a mix of black, white and latin. Point is it has given voice to those folks that are racist themselves people that have an agenda, that either don't like cops or white people. They become the loudest voice and use these shooting's as a platform to recruit. He with the loudest voice attract the most sheep.
The media has created a perpetual cops are killing innocent black people. Troof is the killing of "innocent" victims by police is so minute compared to black on black and gang related shootings. But no one gives a shit about that....nope no agenda. To date there have been 313 deaths related to shootings in Chicago alone. But we as a society are going to focus on what 6 or 7 deaths by police officers, the folks that protect us and put their lives on the line everyday. That makes a whole lot of fucking sense.
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Good! Good! Let the hate keep flowing through them...
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It most certainly is not.
I said that there is a problem with community/police interaction.
I also said that the community lacks a voice.
There are no words of blame for either side in my post, despite what you infer.
So who's fault is it?
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My $.02
The #BLM campaign and the marching is creating racial tension. People act as if it is only white cops killing the victim when in reality it has been a mix of black, white and latin. Point is it has given voice to those folks that are racist themselves people that have an agenda, that either don't like cops or white people. They become the loudest voice and use these shooting's as a platform to recruit. He with the loudest voice attract the most sheep.
The media has created a perpetual cops are killing innocent black people. Troof is the killing of "innocent" victims by police is so minute compared to black on black and gang related shootings. But no one gives a shit about that....nope no agenda. To date there have been 313 deaths related to shootings in Chicago alone. But we as a society are going to focus on what 6 or 7 deaths by police officers, the folks that protect us and put their lives on the line everyday. That makes a whole lot of fucking sense.
No one asked you.
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No one asked you.
That's why it only cost your cheap ass .02!
If you had invited him, he might have charged you like $700,000 Hillary money!
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There's enough stupid in this thread already. Don't compound the problem by putting words in my mouth.
It was such a "water is wet" statement that I don't know what other conclusion I should have drawn from what you said. Of course there is a problem with interaction between some black communities (not all) and police. That's exactly what we're discussing. The point is, for the most part it's not a police problem. The shooting in Minnesota may be an exception, but with all of these stories that wind up on the national news, we're not talking about cops just walking up to black people and shooting them for no reason. We're talking about people who at some point committed a crime and/or resisted police and got a negative result.
Then, you have a president who exacerbates the issue and basically tells everyone they should be angry because they are being profiled by the police. You can't reason with people who have already made up their minds and have decided that they won't change them. It doesn't matter what race they are. Especially when the POTUS basically endorses their behavior.
I don't understand how those communities "don't have a voice". I would really like to understand that statement.
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Another example, also from Mobile: A citizen has filed a complaint because Mobile's police chief drew his gun on the citizen. The citizen claims his civil rights were violated. Mobile PD has gone as far as forwarding the guy's complaint to the FBI. Chief had a pretty good reason for drawing his gun. He caught the guy red handed in the process of burglarizing a residence. The guy even admits he was burglarizing the residence because he needed some money. But this guy still gets air time on local TV stations. This is still a story, and it shouldn't have ever seen the light of day.
You can't change that type of mentality. And as far as being heard? Please. This guy doesn't have a leg to stand on, and he made it onto all of the local TV stations. The media jumps all over any opportunity to get a story on police actions, so I'm not seeing a lack of voice.
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So who's fault is it?
It's Whitey's fault!
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It was such a "water is wet" statement that I don't know what other conclusion I should have drawn from what you said. Of course there is a problem with interaction between some black communities (not all) and police. That's exactly what we're discussing. The point is, for the most part it's not a police problem. The shooting in Minnesota may be an exception, but with all of these stories that wind up on the national news, we're not talking about cops just walking up to black people and shooting them for no reason. We're talking about people who at some point committed a crime and/or resisted police and got a negative result.
Then, you have a president who exacerbates the issue and basically tells everyone they should be angry because they are being profiled by the police. You can't reason with people who have already made up their minds and have decided that they won't change them. It doesn't matter what race they are. Especially when the POTUS basically endorses their behavior.
I don't understand how those communities "don't have a voice". I would really like to understand that statement.
I never agree with you.
Until I do.
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I never agree with you.
Until I do.
Just great! Let me be the first to gradulate.
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I never agree with you.
Until I do.
Agreeing with bammers ain't something I do often but token has made it easy lately. Maybe he's had a good influence on rws.
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So who's fault is it?
Blame enough for both sides to share.
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So who's fault is it?
the pilgrims.
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the pilgrims.
Dear people who type in all lower case.
We are the difference in helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Sincerely, Capital Letters.
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Dear people who type in all lower case.
We are the difference in helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Sincerely, Capital Letters.
If you are going to call someone to task re: their posts, make sure that you get your own right. There should be a comma between "uncle" and "jack", dumbass.
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Dear people who type in all lower case.
We are the difference in helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Sincerely, Capital Letters.
It's more organic.
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the pilgrims.
We didn't land on Plymouth Rock ... Plymouth Rock landed on us!
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Dear people who type in all lower case.
We are the difference in helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Sincerely, Capital Letters.
Dear .cumz
It was funny the first time. I chuckled the second time. By the third time, I wanted to pound the living shit out of the u and the z.
Signed,
The o
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Dear .cumz
It was funny the first time. I chuckled the second time. By the third time, I wanted to pound the living shit out of the u and the z.
Signed,
The o
Someone found their uppercase skillset. Congrats.
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Someone found their uppercase skillset. Congrats.
Drop that mic, bitch.
#4yearswithout1capitalletter
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Drop that mic, bitch.
#4yearswithout1capitalletter
#lowercaseletterslivesmatter
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Someone found their uppercase skillset. Congrats.
well the o wrote it.
c?
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well the o wrote it.
c?
I still say R
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I still say R
You big ole pirate, you.
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Problem solved
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