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Title: A-Day
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 09, 2016, 05:17:47 PM
How does it look? I'm too broke to see it, lol.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Kaos on April 09, 2016, 05:21:43 PM
How does it look? I'm too broke to see it, lol.

Turnovers.  Stalled drives. Red zone failures. 

Check. Check. Check.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2016, 06:07:53 PM
If it were my call, I'd name White the starter right now and give him rep after rep after rep.  Only because he was the least shitty of the 3.  He had his moments and at one point was 7-11 for 124 yards.  But, he also screwed the pooch with a drop and 2-3 crappy throws.  JJ looked just like last year with the exception of throwing it over everyone's head instead of forcing an int.  Clifford Franklin ain't ready for prime time.  Not even in the same universe as prime time.

First team D  :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup:

They looked fast, physical, tackled well. Down linemen looked great and Tre Williams was skrong. Loved seeing Marlon Davidson looking big and physical at 280 and running a good bit with the ones.  I'm well aware it's a spring game but the depth and experience we'll have this year on D is pretty special.   
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 09, 2016, 10:21:28 PM
I've given up making regular season predictions based off the spring game. Back in 2010, I walked out of the stadium thinking 7-8 wins was our ceiling. Last year, I said "This Johnson kid has a damn bright future at Auburn."

Today, I left the stadium thinking "Stock up on whiskey, big boy. You're going to need it this fall." Outside of the running backs and Legatron, I was underwhelmed with the side of the ball that is supposed to score points.

Defensively, I don't want to get suckered in after years of high hopes but Steele's bunch played great.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 09, 2016, 11:51:43 PM
I've given up making regular season predictions based off the spring game. Back in 2010, I walked out of the stadium thinking 7-8 wins was our ceiling. Last year, I said "This Johnson kid has a damn bright future at Auburn."

Today, I left the stadium thinking "Stock up on whiskey, big boy. You're going to need it this fall." Outside of the running backs and Legatron, I was underwhelmed with the side of the ball that is supposed to score points.

Defensively, I don't want to get suckered in after years of high hopes but Steele's bunch played great.

I think some real expectations are in order.  Malzahn has been there long enough to establish that these are his players....his system.  It really is a sink or swim kind of year.  A couple of observations.  First, I think what was obvious was that they were trying to go HUNH to the max today.  Back to what got it all started and a total departure from 2015.  Tells me Gus has taken the reins and it's going to be done his way. 

Second, I'm crossing my fingers like a lot of you, but I came away from today thinking we may just have the best overall defense since the Tuberville years.  No, not because the blue team stifled the white in an A-Day game.  But the shear numbers across the D-line and in the secondary.  And the LB's (Especially Tre) looked fast and physical.  Maybe I'm reading too much into it but if everyone stays relatively healthy on D and with the new schemes under Steele (I saw numerous blitzes) we could be...+1.00 to Wes.....pretty damn salty.

All we need is a QB to distribute and occasionally take off. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: djsimp on April 10, 2016, 12:53:40 AM
JFIII will be the starter at QB
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2016, 09:56:52 AM
JFIII will be the starter at QB

I sincerely hope you're wrong.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 10, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
JFIII will be the starter at QB
If he is, Gus has lost his mind.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 10, 2016, 10:28:03 AM
I've given up making regular season predictions based off the spring game. Back in 2010, I walked out of the stadium thinking 7-8 wins was our ceiling. Last year, I said "This Johnson kid has a damn bright future at Auburn."

Today, I left the stadium thinking "Stock up on whiskey, big boy. You're going to need it this fall." Outside of the running backs and Legatron, I was underwhelmed with the side of the ball that is supposed to score points.

Defensively, I don't want to get suckered in after years of high hopes but Steele's bunch played great.
I felt very similar. I don't see how anyone can feel much better about QB, which happens to be our biggest need for improvement, IMO.

White looked almost serviceable at best.

O line and D lines look to be solid, as is RB. That's all I left with.

A far cry from my 2010 excitement. But, if the D plays great maybe they'll surprise me.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: djsimp on April 10, 2016, 11:06:20 AM
I sincerely hope you're wrong.

If we are that horrible at QB, m betting Barrett has a chance to take control with just fall camp under his belt.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: AUJarhead on April 10, 2016, 11:30:59 AM
First team D  :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup: :thumsup:

Until I see what they do against another team's offense, I'm going to assume they looked good because they played the Auburn Offense.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 10, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
Until I see what they do against another team's offense, I'm going to assume they looked good because they played the Auburn Offense.
^^This.
I only saw the first half but the 3rd down awfulness was evident.

If it were 1985, I wouldn't be as suspect. But our recent defensive woes and realizing that we need solid qb play to make the Gus bus run makes me nervous.

I go in expecting to see Tark run and gun but leave feeling like I just saw Dean Smith run the 4 corner offense.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 10, 2016, 04:08:06 PM
It was a practice. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing learned. Wait till game 1.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 10, 2016, 04:11:02 PM
It was a practice. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing learned. Wait till game 1.
There is an old Hindu proverb that says, "You will play just like you practice."

Nothing more. Nothing less.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 10, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
There is an old Hindu proverb that says, "You will play just like you practice."

Nothing more. Nothing less.

A flute with no holes is not a flute.

A doughnut with no holes is a danish.

Wait until Game 1. Long way to go and a lot to do before that happens. Give it time.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 10, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
A flute with no holes is not a flute.
It's a stick.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2016, 04:33:52 PM
Man who go to bed with itchy ass, wake up with smelly finger.

Sean White.  Call it.  Give him the reps.  Get ready for Clemson.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 10, 2016, 04:43:05 PM
However, it looks like we may still be in the running for TT grad transfer, Davis Webb.  6-5 220.  Threw for 46 TD's at Tech.  Had committed to Colorado earlier but now is coming to AU for another visit. At least worth keeping an eye on.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: bottomfeeder on April 10, 2016, 06:39:18 PM
However, it looks like we may still be in the running for TT grad transfer, Davis Webb.  6-5 220.  Threw for 46 TD's at Tech.  Had committed to Colorado earlier but now is coming to AU for another visit. At least worth keeping an eye on.

THIS^^^^

His numbers are good when compared to....
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 10, 2016, 06:43:28 PM
However, it looks like we may still be in the running for TT grad transfer, Davis Webb.  6-5 220.  Threw for 46 TD's at Tech.  Had committed to Colorado earlier but now is coming to AU for another visit. At least worth keeping an eye on.

He obviously watched the A-Day game as well.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 10, 2016, 07:29:34 PM
A flute with no holes is not a flute.

A doughnut with no holes is a danish.

Wait until Game 1. Long way to go and a lot to do before that happens. Give it time.
Look dude, you don't tell me what to do. I do the telling around here. You just listen, then step and fetch when I ask. No need to "wait for game 1". I have spoken. We looked like piss at QB.

You should never question my football smarts because I am borderline genius.

Hindu proverb:

"Never pass up an opportunity to shit."
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 10, 2016, 07:42:49 PM
Look dude, you don't tell me what to do. I do the telling around here. You just listen, then step and fetch when I ask. No need to "wait for game 1". I have spoken. We looked like piss at QB.

You should never question my football smarts because I am borderline genius.

Hindu proverb:

"Never pass up an opportunity to shoot."

Finkle is Einhorn
Wiregrass is Rhett.

Got it.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: CCTAU on April 10, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
However, it looks like we may still be in the running for TT grad transfer, Davis Webb.  6-5 220.  Threw for 46 TD's at Tech.  Had committed to Colorado earlier but now is coming to AU for another visit. At least worth keeping an eye on.

Why would we want this?

We got a passer in White. We don't seem to have a passing coach. So with this guy, we'll just have a taller passer with no passing p!ays called!

I bet this guy can reallymake plays  using the TE!
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: chinook on April 11, 2016, 12:22:11 AM
It was a practice. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing learned. Wait till game 1.

I agree.  I agree. Yeah, I agree. I disagree, unless we are talking Carlson.  oh hell no.

Defense...big, eager and fast.  They will win us games.  I see no WOW in our current WR corp. Our QB situation does not make me warm and fuzzy. This QB deal needs to be fixed before game 1.   I think Gus is scratching his head [and balls like most of us and I stress most] and the dude is probably shitting bullets. 

Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: djsimp on April 11, 2016, 12:35:58 AM
I agree.  I agree. Yeah, I agree. I disagree, unless we are talking Carlson.  oh hell no.

Defense...big, eager and fast.  They will win us games.  I see no WOW in our current WR corp. Our QB situation does not make me warm and fuzzy. This QB deal needs to be fixed before game 1.   I think Gus is scratching his head [and balls like most of us and I stress most] and the dude is probably shitting bullets.

It's prolly gonna be JFIII unless Barrett comes in and show shows out or the TT guy signs.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: CCTAU on April 11, 2016, 08:56:26 AM
It's prolly gonna be JFIII unless Barrett comes in and show shows out or the TT guy signs.

Thanks for pinning it down for us...
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 11, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Thanks for pinning it down for us...

Clear as the Mississippi River
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 11, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
It's prolly gonna be JFIII unless Barrett comes in and show shows out or the TT guy signs.
You may be right but I HIGHLY doubt it. Not that I'm high, I mean, I just don't see it.

None of the 3 looked worth cow piss but White was the better of the 3. And he had the fumble and what should have been a Johnsonesque easy interception that was dropped. Into double coverage. Along with a few other suspect passes, imo.

I do feel like JFIII gets PT but I don't think he carries the bulk. It's White's job to lose, if you ask me.

White does look quicker but not any taller, so prepare for the batted balls at the los again.

I don't see Barrett being an option unless he's Cam.2. I don't think he's Cam.2.

Gus desperately needs a rushing QB. White isn't going to break it for 20 plus very often but maybe he can pick up 5-10 on occasion.

After breaking down the film last pm and making some graphs and pie charts, I realize that one saving grace from Saturday may be the vanilla playbook and lack of keeps on the zone read. If JFIII and White can somewhat execute the zone read, we may be o.k. If not, I agree that we should drop the HUNH and just go with a mostly pro style to slow things down. And hope that our D can keep us in games.

And we didn't have Carryon on the field. I saw him without pads. I don't know why. Also, Trigga Trey had both shoulders operated on, I believe. I don't know when to expect him back.

I echo the excitement about the defense but I've been teased for ten years, so I'll just be on standby. Let me know when we actually get into the top 25 in some defensive categories. Or, even break the top 50.

But it really does appear that this D line could be 2010 caliber, if not better. And our LB and DB's look to be pretty damn sporty. Depth, you say? Yes. I think so. Transfers and RS's are a plus.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 11, 2016, 11:27:42 AM
Maybe we can put lifts in White's cleats. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 11, 2016, 11:31:55 AM
Maybe we can put lifts in White's cleats.
Or, if White were Black, he could run faster.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 11, 2016, 11:36:57 AM
Or, if White were Black, he could run faster.

Why would his last name make him...oooooh, I see what you did there. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: wesfau2 on April 11, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
Why would his last name make him...oooooh, I see what you did there.

He's not black like Barry White, no he is white like Frank Black is.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: jmar on April 11, 2016, 01:50:35 PM
You people need to relax over the QB situation. There's plenty of time for our guru's to work their magic and put the high powered scoring machine on the field we expect.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 11, 2016, 02:09:28 PM
He's not black like Barry White, no he is white like Frank Black is.
This honkey's gone to heaven
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: wesfau2 on April 11, 2016, 02:42:12 PM
This honkey's gone to heaven

I always assumed he copped the Pixies line there...didn't realize he'd changed it up slightly.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Godfather on April 11, 2016, 03:38:17 PM
Maybe we can put lifts in White's cleats.

wes4au for QB?
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: wesfau2 on April 11, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
wes4au for QB?

You're goddamned right.

Snapping necks and cashing checks.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Godfather on April 12, 2016, 03:11:38 PM
My analysis..  We are 3 days removed from A-Day and based on what I saw here are my thoughts.

1> We were actually much better organized than I expected.  I don't expect much this season, not sure if that is good or bad.  I will probably get more hyped the closer we get to the season, but honestly this is probably the most meh I have ever been at this point.  That being said I did think we looked better than I was anticipating, yes I know offense didn't look great, but honestly I would rather the defense show up more for A-Day then the offense.

B> I think the defense is really going to be something (obviously provided we stay healthy).  I know we have debated this since Tubs left, but I fully expect our defense to keep us in games this year.  We are going to need them especially in the beginning.  D-Line looks stout and I was more impressed by big #1 Montravious who was flying to the ball.  While I am still on the fence about Kevin Steele (I thought Lance Thompson should have been handed the job after the Memphis Game). I am excited to see our defense play this year.

3> This H-Back shit better happen during the year.  Gus has a tendency to show stuff during spring practices that we never see again.  That being said the H-Backs were a pleasant surprise in the game and one I hope we see again come the fall.

4> Sean White will be the starter come Clemson. (I said this before Spring Practice and I continue to stand behind it).  Sean didn't look his best but I was not overly worried about it during a spring game.  He will obviously need to play much better than that for us to win against Clemson in the opener, but no other QB that we currently have on campus is more complete than him with regards to throwing the ball.  which brings me to JFIII

5> Lashlee and Gus have both said that JFIII will play this year and there is no reason to not believe them.  Here's how I think it will go.  Sean will have a series of good plays against Clemson.  Then on a first down somewhere around the Clemson 45 yard line Gus will inexplicably bring JFIII who will run up the middle for a 2 yard gain.  He will then stay in on 2nd down and miss a throw and Sean White will be brought back in on 3rd and we will have to punt.  I don't believe that JFIII will ever see meaningful playing time at Auburn.  I think he will be brought in to be the "wildcat" QB and it will fail because most of the time we run and the defense knows it.

6> WR's...biggest area of need.  I certainly hope that our incoming studs at WR are as good as advertised because we are going to need them big time.  Outside of Davis if one of these stud freshman doesn't show up it might not matter who is throwing the rock.

G> I really like the move of using Austin Golson at LT and Dampeer back at Center.  Honestly I thought Golson was wasted last year at Center.

8> Daniel Carlson for Heisman, seriously though can this kid be even more money than he was last year....looks like a yes.

9> Sufficed to Weskie and Uncle Sani's conceded nothing attitude, realistically I just don't see this team as being a championship level team.  Now we could possibly improve to that level if the defense is as good as I think they could be and offense gets it's confidence and get's into a grove.  The schedule certainly sets up nice outside of playing the #2 team our first 5 are at home, and that could have a snowball effect.  Realistically though I see us as an 8-9 win team, improving from last year but still not having all of the pieces in place.   

I think Gus lives to see a 2017 AU season.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: CCTAU on April 12, 2016, 03:33:35 PM

5> Lashlee and Gus have both said that JFIII will play this year and there is no reason to not believe them.  Here's how I think it will go.  Sean will have a series of good plays against Clemson.  Then on a first down somewhere around the Clemson 45 yard line Gus will inexplicably bring JFIII who will run up the middle for a 2 yard gain.  He will then stay in on 2nd down and miss a throw and Sean White will be brought back in on 3rd and we will have to punt.  I don't believe that JFIII will ever see meaningful playing time at Auburn.  I think he will be brought in to be the "wildcat" QB and it will fail because most of the time we run and the defense knows it.

I think the only thing that can make this successful is an extreme emphasis on the option being run in a manner that is true. None of this sticking the ball out like a spear crap. Mesh up and force the defense to commit. If JFIII can do that, he will have a strong place in this offense. I would have all QBs and RBs practicing all summer on just this. Even slow as SW could draw some yards if its run correctly. And the play action off of it would actually be play action.

But alas, from what we saw in the spring, more stabbing at the air will be undertaken.

So your analysis is probably spot on!
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 12, 2016, 03:51:21 PM
I agree with all those except #2, #5, #G, #1, #8, #3, #4, #6 & #9.  Other than that, you're spot on. 

I'm with you on White.  As I said, he needs to be named the starter and prepare over the next 3-4 months with that mindset and getting the reps.  Personally, I'm not worried in the least about the WR's.  JJ looked like roadkill.  He wasn't anywhere near them.  Not their fault.  They really didn't allow Clifford Franklin XXX to throw that much and I'm sure there's a reason why.  Same reason they didn't allow him to throw much in JUCO. 

Aside from the defense, the most encouraging thing to me was the HUNH tempo that Malzahn was clearly trying to get back to. That's his bread and buttah.  That's what put him on the map and has allowed him to take 2 offenses to national championship games, winning one.  I saw last year as Malzahn trying to relinquish much of the offensive duties to Lashlee.  When JJ flopped and White got injured, they had no answers.  The O was in disarray for most of the season and they lost all tempo, constantly implementing helter skelter substitutions, including at QB.

It appears that Gus is taking the helm again and hopefully just having Lash work with the QB's.  Hopefully, that's the case.  If so, then pencil White in as the starter and get him ready for Clemson.

Oh, and he WILL be putting Clifford Franklin at Mildcat.  He's always been in love with it. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: wesfau2 on April 12, 2016, 07:46:15 PM

1> We were actually much better organized than I expected.  I don't expect much this season, not sure if that is good or bad.  I will probably get more hyped the closer we get to the season, but honestly this is probably the most meh I have ever been at this point.  That being said I did think we looked better than I was anticipating, yes I know offense didn't look great, but honestly I would rather the defense show up more for A-Day then the offense.

Agreed.  Sharp all around (from a non-play-execution perspective.)

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B> I think the defense is really going to be something (obviously provided we stay healthy).  I know we have debated this since Tubs left, but I fully expect our defense to keep us in games this year.  We are going to need them especially in the beginning.  D-Line looks stout and I was more impressed by big #1 Montravious who was flying to the ball.  While I am still on the fence about Kevin Steele (I thought Lance Thompson should have been handed the job after the Memphis Game). I am excited to see our defense play this year.

Agree again.  Was very impressed with some newcomers.  Marlon Davidson, in particular, stood out.  The JuCo kid (James??) had a big TFL and looked like he was shot out of a cannon getting there.  Lawson and Adams, obviously, looked ready.  Depth across the line and the backfield will be yuuuuuge.  I thought the LBs had a good day.  I saw a lot to like out of Davis and Williams (x2). 


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3> This H-Back shit better happen during the year.  Gus has a tendency to show stuff during spring practices that we never see again.  That being said the H-Backs were a pleasant surprise in the game and one I hope we see again come the fall.

Yep.  We get teased with them and the TEs, but Pettway and Cox had some really great plays.  They need to be involved if for no other reason than to keep the defense guessing a bit.

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4> Sean White will be the starter come Clemson. (I said this before Spring Practice and I continue to stand behind it).  Sean didn't look his best but I was not overly worried about it during a spring game.  He will obviously need to play much better than that for us to win against Clemson in the opener, but no other QB that we currently have on campus is more complete than him with regards to throwing the ball. 

Yep.  He can run just enough (now that he's healthy) to keep the read-option dangerous and he's got the best/most consistent passing game right now.

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5> Lashlee and Gus have both said that JFIII will play this year and there is no reason to not believe them.  Here's how I think it will go.  Sean will have a series of good plays against Clemson.  Then on a first down somewhere around the Clemson 45 yard line Gus will inexplicably bring JFIII who will run up the middle for a 2 yard gain.  He will then stay in on 2nd down and miss a throw and Sean White will be brought back in on 3rd and we will have to punt.  I don't believe that JFIII will ever see meaningful playing time at Auburn.  I think he will be brought in to be the "wildcat" QB and it will fail because most of the time we run and the defense knows it.

Sad, but true ($1 to Metallica).  That said, they will force him into the game more often than necessary...breaking any rhythm and stalling drives.  Cuz...Gus.


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6> WR's...biggest area of need.  I certainly hope that our incoming studs at WR are as good as advertised because we are going to need them big time.  Outside of Davis if one of these stud freshman doesn't show up it might not matter who is throwing the rock.

I'm not sweating the WRs.  There are enough guys on the roster that should be able to play and we shouldn't be worrying.  That said, the RS/Frosh are studs as well.  If Kodi can turn this group around (and I think he might pull it off), we will get pleasantly surprised.

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G> I really like the move of using Austin Golson at LT and Dampeer back at Center.  Honestly I thought Golson was wasted last year at Center.

Yeah, I prefer his length outside.  Would like to see Darius James live up to his 5* hype.  And what about Kozan?  Isn't he finally healthy?  That said, we have depth...just need Hand to get the best 5 out there and let them play together.

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8> Daniel Carlson for Heisman, seriously though can this kid be even more money than he was last year....looks like a yes.

Dude is my preseason MVP.  And fuck the haterz...I like the "Legatron" nickname.

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9> Sufficed to Weskie and Uncle Sani's conceded nothing attitude, realistically I just don't see this team as being a championship level team.  Now we could possibly improve to that level if the defense is as good as I think they could be and offense gets it's confidence and get's into a grove.  The schedule certainly sets up nice outside of playing the #2 team our first 5 are at home, and that could have a snowball effect.  Realistically though I see us as an 8-9 win team, improving from last year but still not having all of the pieces in place.   

I think Gus lives to see a 2017 AU season.

I'm happy if we win 9 in the regular season and snatch 2/3 in the LSU/UGA/UAT grouping.  Regardless, barring a total meltdown, Gus is here another year.  And I'm ok with that....barring a total meltdown.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Kaos on April 13, 2016, 04:57:34 AM
Can't sleep.  Found the A-Day game on ESPN. 

The offense is vastly more putrid than the words I read and the clips I saw suggested. 

Shockingly bad. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 13, 2016, 08:11:41 AM
I try not to put any stock into A-Day games. I told my buddies that I was probably going to skip the 2004 season because I thought we looked worse in the A-Day game than we did in all of 2003.

I remember thinking Cam was nothing special in 2010.

I think Kodi Burns looked like a future superstar going into 2008.

But we did look pretty bad on offense especially at the quarterback position. White had some nice throws but some seriously bonehead mistakes in scoring positions.

The biggest issue that has to be fixed isn't really with the players. It's with the offensive coaching staff. Robinson was obviously far beyond everyone else carrying the ball just like he was last year. Will they let him play in the 2nd half this year? Jeremy Johnson was so bad last year and in the A-Day game that I thought the no-name guy in the white jersey looked better than him. Why is JJ still part of the conversation for starting QB?

And why is Gus growing moobs? And why is he driving around in a $140k BMW?

Defense might pull us out of some games though if we can stay healthy. Linebackers finally looked like they could be considered SEC caliber. Defensive line might be top five in the country. Our secondary looked good and that was with our #1 corner Carlton Davis not playing.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 13, 2016, 09:34:48 AM
Can't sleep.  Found the A-Day game on ESPN. 

The offense is vastly more putrid than the words I read and the clips I saw suggested. 

Shockingly bad.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/10/10c148beb383c3209e43e794c3680d1a1f51c68180727bb583eece26ef2bbd8c.jpg)

I try not to put any stock into A-Day games. I told my buddies that I was probably going to skip the 2004 season because I thought we looked worse in the A-Day game than we did in all of 2003.

I remember thinking Cam was nothing special in 2010.

I think Kodi Burns looked like a future superstar going into 2008.

All of this.

It was a practice and a purposely vanilla one at that. Let's play a couple games before we totally write this whole thing off the books.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 13, 2016, 09:55:42 AM
One area that looked polished and razor sharp was the long snapping.  I fully expect Athlon and Lindy's to have them listed as the top unit in the country this upcoming season.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: RottenBottom on April 13, 2016, 10:08:33 AM
One area that looked polished and razor sharp was the long snapping.  I fully expect Athlon and Lindy's to have them listed as the top unit in the country this upcoming season.
Good. They'll have lots of practice this year.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Kaos on April 13, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
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All of this.

It was a practice and a purposely vanilla one at that. Let's play a couple games before we totally write this whole thing off the books.

Horseshit.

The things I saw that concerned me can't be fixed.   "Vanilla" -- which is the same fucked up nonsense I've heard for years that means diddly shit -- doesn't explain the hesitation, trepidation, failure to make any reads, failure to find open receivers, failure to move the chains, inability to execute or inconsistency shown by most of the QBs.   Only White looked to have confidence and command but his physical skill set is limited. 

You can hang your ass out there all you want but barring some spectacular play by people who aren't on campus yet the offense will be as impotent as last year. 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: The Six on April 13, 2016, 11:09:06 AM
Horseshoot.

The things I saw that concerned me can't be fixed.   "Vanilla" -- which is the same fudgeed up nonsense I've heard for years that means diddly shoot -- doesn't explain the hesitation, trepidation, failure to make any reads, failure to find open receivers, failure to move the chains, inability to execute or inconsistency shown by most of the QBs.   Only White looked to have confidence and command but his physical skill set is limited. 

You can hang your ass out there all you want but barring some spectacular play by people who aren't on campus yet the offense will be as impotent as last year.

What you saw, what we all saw, was an offense unable to establish rhythm because the coaches weren't at all interested in letting them get into rhythm. They wanted to play various mixes of QBs, RBs, HBs, TEs, WRs, and OLs so they can evaluate each and then field the best squads and sets. We have no idea what they will look like at this point. All we can do is look at individual performances.

White plays with most confidence, agreed. Should be the starter based on evidence seen so far. RBs are a solid mix of guys with power and speed. Good committee. OL needs to solidify but looked alright going downhil. WRs really need to step it up. They have a long way to go from what I've seen but until Gus unveils a serious and detailed pass game, I figure it'll be more of the same. Lots of runs and deep shots mixed with bubble screens.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: GH2001 on April 13, 2016, 12:57:56 PM
My analysis..  We are 3 days removed from A-Day and based on what I saw here are my thoughts.

1> We were actually much better organized than I expected.  I don't expect much this season, not sure if that is good or bad.  I will probably get more hyped the closer we get to the season, but honestly this is probably the most meh I have ever been at this point.  That being said I did think we looked better than I was anticipating, yes I know offense didn't look great, but honestly I would rather the defense show up more for A-Day then the offense.

B> I think the defense is really going to be something (obviously provided we stay healthy).  I know we have debated this since Tubs left, but I fully expect our defense to keep us in games this year.  We are going to need them especially in the beginning.  D-Line looks stout and I was more impressed by big #1 Montravious who was flying to the ball.  While I am still on the fence about Kevin Steele (I thought Lance Thompson should have been handed the job after the Memphis Game). I am excited to see our defense play this year.

3> This H-Back shit better happen during the year.  Gus has a tendency to show stuff during spring practices that we never see again.  That being said the H-Backs were a pleasant surprise in the game and one I hope we see again come the fall.

4> Sean White will be the starter come Clemson. (I said this before Spring Practice and I continue to stand behind it).  Sean didn't look his best but I was not overly worried about it during a spring game.  He will obviously need to play much better than that for us to win against Clemson in the opener, but no other QB that we currently have on campus is more complete than him with regards to throwing the ball.  which brings me to JFIII

5> Lashlee and Gus have both said that JFIII will play this year and there is no reason to not believe them.  Here's how I think it will go.  Sean will have a series of good plays against Clemson.  Then on a first down somewhere around the Clemson 45 yard line Gus will inexplicably bring JFIII who will run up the middle for a 2 yard gain.  He will then stay in on 2nd down and miss a throw and Sean White will be brought back in on 3rd and we will have to punt.  I don't believe that JFIII will ever see meaningful playing time at Auburn.  I think he will be brought in to be the "wildcat" QB and it will fail because most of the time we run and the defense knows it.

6> WR's...biggest area of need.  I certainly hope that our incoming studs at WR are as good as advertised because we are going to need them big time.  Outside of Davis if one of these stud freshman doesn't show up it might not matter who is throwing the rock.

G> I really like the move of using Austin Golson at LT and Dampeer back at Center.  Honestly I thought Golson was wasted last year at Center.

8> Daniel Carlson for Heisman, seriously though can this kid be even more money than he was last year....looks like a yes.

9> Sufficed to Weskie and Uncle Sani's conceded nothing attitude, realistically I just don't see this team as being a championship level team.  Now we could possibly improve to that level if the defense is as good as I think they could be and offense gets it's confidence and get's into a grove.  The schedule certainly sets up nice outside of playing the #2 team our first 5 are at home, and that could have a snowball effect.  Realistically though I see us as an 8-9 win team, improving from last year but still not having all of the pieces in place.   

I think Gus lives to see a 2017 AU season.

Pretty spot on and reasonable.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: GH2001 on April 13, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
Horseshit.

The things I saw that concerned me can't be fixed.   "Vanilla" -- which is the same fucked up nonsense I've heard for years that means diddly shit -- doesn't explain the hesitation, trepidation, failure to make any reads, failure to find open receivers, failure to move the chains, inability to execute or inconsistency shown by most of the QBs.   Only White looked to have confidence and command but his physical skill set is limited. 

You can hang your ass out there all you want but barring some spectacular play by people who aren't on campus yet the offense will be as impotent as last year.

And this guy knows physical skill sets folks.

Seriously dude, chillax. Neil Caudle looked all world in these things.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Kaos on April 13, 2016, 02:04:27 PM
And this guy knows physical skill sets folks.

Seriously dude, chillax. Neil Caudle looked all world in these things.

All well and good.  Except for the clusterfuck of last year.  Without that, sure.   But when the offense looks exactly as inept as it did during that debacle? Don't feed me vanilla.  Not buying it. 

Gus needed to put on an offensive show to give fans some encouragement and put it back in the heads of our opposition that we can score at will.  Instead we got field goals.  How many games did field goals in the red zone cost us last season?  I've seen that movie before and didn't like it the first time.  Don't want a sequel. 

And by skill set..... Can you make White faster?  His arm is average at best.  You talk about Caudle?  He'd be ahead of most of these guys.  So would Trotter.   And maybe Kodi and Cocoa.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 13, 2016, 04:16:24 PM
I am holding out hope that the chocolate and peanut butter comes out on September 3rd.  Gus doesn't want to tip his hand too much before the onslaught of Chandler Cox and JFIII hits the crack head tigers in the mouth several hundred times that day.  It's either that or Turtle Mosely Redux will see us losing 48-3.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 13, 2016, 05:48:31 PM
I would be fairly optimistic if I knew two things were going to happen.  First, Gus names Sean White as the starter and gets him the reps between now and September.  Second, that Gus is really going to take complete control of the offense and play calling and get back to the HUNH tempo he's been so successful with in the past.  And maybe a third thing as well.  He uses Jovon Robinson the same way he rode Ben Tate, Michael Dyer, Tre Alias Mason and CAP. 

Malzahn has proven many times over he can light up the scoreboard with a variety of QB styles. White will be fine.  He's got the credentials and he showed several flashes of ability last season before getting banged up. Get him the reps and let him know he's the man and he'll wind up being a damn good QB in this system.  JJ is a goner.  Head case.  Can't hit the broad side of my ass.  Clifford Franklin XVX is a 170 pounds soaking wet and can't throw.  Gus has to know his one viable option is Sean White.  Name him and give him the keys. 

 
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: GH2001 on April 13, 2016, 11:14:34 PM
All well and good.  Except for the clusterfuck of last year.  Without that, sure.   But when the offense looks exactly as inept as it did during that debacle? Don't feed me vanilla.  Not buying it. 

Gus needed to put on an offensive show to give fans some encouragement and put it back in the heads of our opposition that we can score at will.  Instead we got field goals.  How many games did field goals in the red zone cost us last season?  I've seen that movie before and didn't like it the first time.  Don't want a sequel. 

And by skill set..... Can you make White faster?  His arm is average at best.  You talk about Caudle?  He'd be ahead of most of these guys.  So would Trotter.   And maybe Kodi and Cocoa.

Im more less poking fun of us collectively as casual fans. We think we all know it all. We're experts in hindsight. But as much I won't agree with Gus on some things, he'll always be ten times the expert on this stuff as you or I. White has gotten great accolades from people. Trent Dilfer has praised his abilities. I thought he did as well as he could last year in that circumstance with that vanilla ass game plan they gave him. When he is allowed to throw the ball past a wheel route the kid has a laser arm. Enough that it's been noticed by scouts. I think his skill set is plenty good. As tall or strong or pass range as high as Jeremy? No. But neither was Aaron Murray who white compares favorably too. I think we have 3 qbs of our 5 that simply don't fit the system well. And that is directly on the coaches.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: CCTAU on April 13, 2016, 11:20:32 PM
We're experts in hindsight.

Hey hey hey. Where you get this hindsight stuff from?

We was yelling it out after the 3rd game. No hindsight.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 13, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Hindsight is 50/50
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: GH2001 on April 14, 2016, 01:13:16 PM
Hindsight is 50/50

Chad said you're wrong. It's 48.98%
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 14, 2016, 01:23:54 PM
I think we need to hup it to Carl Lawson.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 14, 2016, 01:42:36 PM
I think we need to hup it to Carl Lawson.

On the hup or on the hup hup?
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: GH2001 on April 14, 2016, 02:10:45 PM
On the hup or on the hup hup?
Yes.
Title: Re: A-Day
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 14, 2016, 02:24:55 PM
On the hup or on the hup hup?


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