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Title: Under Armour game
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 02, 2016, 07:13:42 PM
Watched some of it very passively. I recorded it and will possibly take time to break it down for you later but here's a flyover view.

Woody is a runner and threw high when I did see him throw. Looks like he'll be a perfect wildcat QB for Malzahn. Perfect.

This could've had something to do with the Rashan Gary and Jones boys being on the opposing front. Jones is an ole piss verbal and Rashan has us in the mix. They couldn't be stopped. It was like any of you trying to block me. College vs pee wee. And I never saw Woody even scramble for much.

On a positive note, Marlon Davidson was on they team.

I don't know if we picked up any new verbals but we lost a LB I believe to the fighting Dabos.

We were at 8 in their rankings with Alabammer at 7.

Hard to gauge but Barret appears to be Marshallesque. Can see why Noles used him in that role. But he wasn't able to pass enough when I was watching to be able to really tell.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: djsimp on January 02, 2016, 09:39:12 PM
Watched some of it very passively. I recorded it and will possibly take time to break it down for you later but here's a flyover view.

Woody is a runner and threw high when I did see him throw. Looks like he'll be a perfect wildcat QB for Malzahn. Perfect.

This could've had something to do with the Rashan Gary and Jones boys being on the opposing front. Jones is an ole piss verbal and Rashan has us in the mix. They couldn't be stopped. It was like any of you trying to block me. College vs pee wee. And I never saw Woody even scramble for much.

On a positive note, Marlon Davidson was on they team.

I don't know if we picked up any new verbals but we lost a LB I believe to the fighting Dabos.

We were at 8 in their rankings with Alabammer at 7.

Hard to gauge but Barret appears to be Marshallesque. Can see why Noles used him in that role. But he wasn't able to pass enough when I was watching to be able to really tell.

Agreed on all points but I think that was JF3 that was used as the Marshall clone by FSU.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 02, 2016, 09:45:31 PM
TEAM HIGHLIGHT

RB B.J. Emmons (Alabama commit), 10 carries for 6 yards, 2 receptions for 13 yards

WR A.J. Brown (Alabama target) 4 receptions, 79 yards, 1 TD

TE Landon Rice (Auburn commit), 1 catch, 7 yards, 1 tackle

DT Rashan Gary (Auburn, Alabama target), 6 tackles, 3.5 for loss, 3 sacks (Highlight team MVP)

DT Benito Jones (Ole Miss commit), 4 tackles for loss (TFL)

DL Marlon Davidson (Auburn commit), 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass breakup

LB Dontavious Jackson (Alabama target), 4 tackles, 1 QB hurry

LB Jeff McCulloch (Alabama target), 4 tackles

LB Ben Davis (Alabama, Auburn target), 3 tackles, 1 TFL

DB Nigel Knott (Alabama target), 1 TFL

DB John Broussard (Auburn commit), 1 tackle

LB Lyndell Wilson (Alabama target), 1 tackle

DL Kendell Jones (Alabama commit), 1 tackle

TEAM ARMOUR

QB Woody Barrett (Auburn commit), 1-3, (-1 yards), 6 carries, (-12 yards)

WR Nate Craig-Myers (Auburn target), 1 catch, 18 yards

LB Tre Threat (Auburn commit), 4 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 pass breakup

DB Jayvaughn Myers (Auburn target), 1 tackle

DT Michail Carter (Alabama target), 1 tackle

IN-GAME COMMITMENTS

5 players made commitments during the game on TV, and WR Cavin Ridley committed to South Carolina after the game

RB Devwah Whaley, Beaumont, Texas - Arkansas

OL Terrance Davis, Hyattsville, Md. - Maryland

WR Drake Davis, IMG Academy - LSU

OL Jean Delance, Mesquite, Texas - Texas

LB Rahshaun Smith, IMG Academy - Clemson
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 03, 2016, 01:34:11 PM
Agreed on all points but I think that was JF3 that was used as the Marshall clone by FSU.
Well, of course it was J3 because the UA game only has HS players in it. Duh.

You think I am some kind of moran?

Dumbass.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 03, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
Refuse. Refuse. Refuse to get caught up in the hype again. Did before this season and felt stupid for it all year. Only going to trust what I see with my eyes re: Auburn football going forward. As for pre-signing All American whatever players, will believe it when I see them produce. Remember Byron Cowart? Mr. Do Everything Gonna be BA on the Muschamp D? Last I heard he wanted out of Lee County. Done with this hype bull.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: jmar on January 03, 2016, 03:47:29 PM
Refuse. Refuse. Refuse to get caught up in the hype again. Did before this season and felt stupid for it all year. Only going to trust what I see with my eyes re: Auburn football going forward. As for pre-signing All American whatever players, will believe it when I see them produce. Remember Byron Cowart? Mr. Do Everything Gonna be BA on the Muschamp D? Last I heard he wanted out of Lee County. Done with this hype bull.
Expect us to be outside of the top twenty-five preseason. The early SEC West noise I have heard has us competing for fifth place with State and A&M. So there is no hype to be found except what we choose to believe.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: RottenBottom on January 03, 2016, 06:52:29 PM
Expect us to be outside of the top twenty-five preseason. The early SEC West noise I have heard has us competing for fifth place with State and A&M. So there is no hype to be found except what we choose to believe.
Dont go telling AUFamily that.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 03, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
Dont go telling AUFamily that.

Truth. You be posting it.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 03, 2016, 09:30:21 PM
Give me all the 4" and 5" kids we can get.  Keep loading the wagon. 
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
Refuse. Refuse. Refuse to get caught up in the hype again. Did before this season and felt stupid for it all year. Only going to trust what I see with my eyes re: Auburn football going forward. As for pre-signing All American whatever players, will believe it when I see them produce. Remember Byron Cowart? Mr. Do Everything Gonna be BA on the Muschamp D? Last I heard he wanted out of Lee County. Done with this hype bull.

On the flipside, if we don't get these elite recruits, people complain too.

All the coaches can do is recruit the same elite athletes that everyone else wants, and land them. Sometimes a bust is hard to see coming.

FWIW - Cowart had his moments towards the end of the year. I would think a player could be afforded more than his true freshman year before being called a bust just yet.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: wesfau2 on January 04, 2016, 08:56:55 AM
Give me all the 4" and 5" kids we can get.  Keep loading the wagon.

This.

On the flipside, if we don't get these elite recruits, people complain too.

and That...

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All the coaches can do is recruit the same elite athletes that everyone else wants, and land them. Sometimes a bust is hard to see coming.

FWIW - Cowart had his moments towards the end of the year. I would think a player could be afforded more than his true freshman year before calling him a bust just yet.

and this and uh...
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: DnATL on January 04, 2016, 09:01:07 AM
Give me all the 4" and 5" kids we can get.  Keep loading the wagon.
:haha:
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2016, 09:36:04 AM
:haha:

pedosnags
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 04, 2016, 09:43:26 AM
 :starz:
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Jumbo on January 04, 2016, 11:09:34 AM
This.

and That...

and this and uh...
Snoop a loop.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 04, 2016, 01:44:53 PM
On the flipside, if we don't get these elite recruits, people complain too.

All the coaches can do is recruit the same elite athletes that everyone else wants, and land them. Sometimes a bust is hard to see coming.

FWIW - Cowart had his moments towards the end of the year. I would think a player could be afforded more than his true freshman year before being called a bust just yet.

Is it too much to ask for coaches who could BUILD upon some of these 4 and 5 star guys? Haven't seen that yet. Doesn't mean it isn't there but haven't seen evidence of it so far.

My Cowart line was based off of his camp talking shoot about leaving and such not. He made a zero net gain impact on the defense this year. There's something wrong with that. If he wasn't ready, redshirt, learn, play when ready. What's the difference between playing him when he's not ready and him blowing it a lot or not playing him at all? Not much, I'd say.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 04, 2016, 01:51:04 PM
Is it too much to ask for coaches who could BUILD upon some of these 4 and 5 star guys? Haven't seen that yet. Doesn't mean it isn't there but haven't seen evidence of it so far.

My Cowart line was based off of his camp talking shoot about leaving and such not. He made a zero net gain impact on the defense this year. There's something wrong with that. If he wasn't ready, redshirt, learn, play when ready. What's the difference between playing him when he's not ready and him blowing it a lot or not playing him at all? Not much, I'd say.

I don't disagree. But thats a two-a-days and spring camp problem. During recruiting all we can do is make a good haul.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 04, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
I don't disagree. But thats a two-a-days and spring camp problem. During recruiting all we can do is make a good haul.

Telephone the bagman.  :miltie:
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 04, 2016, 06:32:52 PM
Is it too much to ask for coaches who could BUILD upon some of these 4 and 5 star guys? Haven't seen that yet. Doesn't mean it isn't there but haven't seen evidence of it so far.

My Cowart line was based off of his camp talking shoot about leaving and such not. He made a zero net gain impact on the defense this year. There's something wrong with that. If he wasn't ready, redshirt, learn, play when ready. What's the difference between playing him when he's not ready and him blowing it a lot or not playing him at all? Not much, I'd say.
^^This. I am not saying coaches are doing a lousy job but we haven't seen much improvement in a lot of these guys.

Off the top of my head: Lawson--Great out of the gate, injured x 2 or 3 but better when heathy? I don't think much if any since freshman year. Of course, when you're that good, it's harder to improve.

Montrae--?? This season, it appeared he was starting out strong. I realize that Lawson being out for most of the year really hurt him. But, did he improve? Effort wise, some. But not the dominant force I was hoping for.

JJ--Don't go there.

S White--There either.

Now, I'm not saying that there wasn't any improvement across the board. It is very obvious to me that the defense made drastic improvement over the course of the season. And I actually thought the O line and RB's did an adequate job most of the year. Play calling and QB play made their jobs significantly more difficult.

I'm simply implying that we have some potential dominators that haven't reached their potential. And I don't know that the coaches are to blame but regardless, the buck stops with Gus.

Esp with our QB situation.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 09:02:13 AM
^^This. I am not saying coaches are doing a lousy job but we haven't seen much improvement in a lot of these guys.

Off the top of my head: Lawson--Great out of the gate, injured x 2 or 3 but better when heathy? I don't think much if any since freshman year. Of course, when you're that good, it's harder to improve.

Montrae--?? This season, it appeared he was starting out strong. I realize that Lawson being out for most of the year really hurt him. But, did he improve? Effort wise, some. But not the dominant force I was hoping for.

JJ--Don't go there.

S White--There either.

Now, I'm not saying that there wasn't any improvement across the board. It is very obvious to me that the defense made drastic improvement over the course of the season. And I actually thought the O line and RB's did an adequate job most of the year. Play calling and QB play made their jobs significantly more difficult.

I'm simply implying that we have some potential dominators that haven't reached their potential. And I don't know that the coaches are to blame but regardless, the buck stops with Gus.

Esp with our QB situation.

Again, thats a different issue. Thats not recruiting. Were recruiting and landing guys that most schools desire. Thats all we can do on NSD. Development issues are not from recruiting (or lack of).
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: jmar on January 05, 2016, 09:57:37 AM
Again, thats a different issue. Thats not recruiting. Were recruiting and landing guys that most schools desire. Thats all we can do on NSD. Development issues are not from recruiting (or lack of).
Agree. But bringing a kid along to maturation and realizing that talent (not necessarily to full potential) is where we lack.
And I know who and what we are competing against so it's easy to always use those fucker's as a measuring stick.
We should.
Nobody else has to contend with Alabama (they have layers of recruiters) at least on this level, sharing the same backyard. So to continue to bring in a top 10 class is a real achievement for our staff IMO.

We just need to let a kid play more when he gets his chance and shows out,  an example being the Prattville RB who had two positive back to back plays in a game, he leaves the field and I don't recall hearing his name again in the games that followed.
 
 
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: CCTAU on January 05, 2016, 10:01:20 AM
Agree. But bringing a kid along to maturation and realizing that talent (not necessarily to full potential) is where we lack.
And I know who and what we are competing against so it's easy to always use those fucker's as a measuring stick.
We should.
Nobody else has this to contend with Alabama (they have layers of recruiters) at least on this level. So to continue to bring in a top 10 class is a real achievement for our staff IMO.

We just need to let a kid play more when he gets his chance and shows out,  an example being the Prattville RB who had two positive back to back plays in a game, he leaves the field and I don't recall hearing his name again in the games that followed.
 
 

He actually started the bowl game and played well. I do wish they would throw to him more.

But I did see a lot of growth form the coaches in the bowl game. They seemed to lean toward playing the guys we, as fans, have thought are the better players, without dissing the other guys. So I think next spring will the the key. I like having Pettway, JR, and Barber in at times. But i would like to see heavy doses of KP and JR!
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 05, 2016, 10:05:12 AM
Again, thats a different issue. Thats not recruiting. Were recruiting and landing guys that most schools desire. Thats all we can do on NSD. Development issues are not from recruiting (or lack of).
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 10:13:36 AM


Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 05, 2016, 10:16:07 AM
Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.

From Bruce Feldman's Twitter: "Interesting stuff: 3 of the NFL's top 5 pass-rushers were "2-star" recruits out of HS. The 4th was a no-star." http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/ (http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/)

Coaching: it actually matters. - The Six
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 10:19:24 AM
From Bruce Feldman's Twitter: "Interesting stuff: 3 of the NFL's top 5 pass-rushers were "2-star" recruits out of HS. The 4th was a no-star." http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/ (http://gridironnow.com/how-nfl-stats-leaders-ranked-as-recruits/)

Coaching: it actually matters. - The Six

Don't stop em....they are on a roll.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: jmar on January 05, 2016, 10:47:23 AM
Yet you guys still seem to think landing top 10 classes year after year are THE issue.
Works for Gus' buddy Hugh Freeze. And the results are there.
Mullen IMO is getting by with moderate overall talent though he seems to "coach them up" as well as anybody.
That's the only issue I would argue.
   
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 05, 2016, 01:58:38 PM
Works for Gus' buddy Hugh Freeze. And the results are there.
Mullen IMO is getting by with moderate overall talent though he seems to "coach them up" as well as anybody.
That's the only issue I would argue.
 

Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 05, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.
Let's be fair, Nkemdieahchieeshe and crew were on spice. No team has won a natty on spice since 2010.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
Let's be fair, Nkemdieahchieeshe and crew were on spice. No team has won a natty on spice since 2010.

This guy knows....listen to him.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: jmar on January 05, 2016, 03:33:18 PM
Hugh Freeze turned Laramy Tunsil, LaQuon Treadwell, and Robert Nkdemdche into ZERO National, SEC, and West Division championships.
They went to their first Sugar Bowl since 19fucking70, still recruiting at the highest level and yet it's Ole Miss, conqueror of Alabama back to back. Freeze might be bonafied but this doesn't happen without a talent upgrade.

Still shocked they have progressed to this level without a good run game.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 05, 2016, 04:11:05 PM
They went to their first Sugar Bowl since 19fucking70, still recruiting at the highest level and yet it's Ole Miss, conqueror of Alabama back to back. Freeze might be bonafied but this doesn't happen without a talent upgrade.

Still shocked they have progressed to this level without a good run game.

The Sugar Bowl aint what it used to be kid.

Yes, they recruit very well. See Kaos' post about that earlier this week. $$$$$$$

And I have no doubt Freeze is a great coach. He seems to know his stuff.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: jmar on January 05, 2016, 07:01:02 PM
The Sugar Bowl aint what it used to be kid.

Yes, they recruit very well. See Kaos' post about that earlier this week. $$$$$$$

And I have no doubt Freeze is a great coach. He seems to know his stuff.
Well for going on forty years the Sugar Bowl was one of the elite bowls while Ole Miss was merely a so-so program for the duration. I only know that Freeze has put together a staff that continues to attract talent, don't know that he's any better a head coach than even Houston Nutt.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 05, 2016, 07:13:17 PM
I watched a bit of the 3rd quarter and the only thing I came away with is that Mr. Bagman needs to be paying a visit to Rashan Gary, sharpish.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: GH2001 on January 06, 2016, 08:36:58 AM
I watched a bit of the 3rd quarter and the only thing I came away with is that Mr. Bagman needs to be paying a visit to Rashan Gary, sharpish.

It bewilders me. At first glance and on the eye test, he looks soft....he speaks soft, he just looks lazy in general. Just doesnt look the part of a badass. Then he suits up and the whistle blows, and its lights out for anyone across from him.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Godfather on January 06, 2016, 10:38:10 AM
The Sugar Bowl aint what it used to be kid.


Better than the Birmingham Bowl....just sayin.   :poke:
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 06, 2016, 11:56:27 AM
Better than the Birmingham Bowl....just sayin.   :poke:

Reggis Ball was damn proud to be in the Birmingham Bowl.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: CCTAU on January 06, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
 Did we get the lone White guy form the UA game again?
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: The Six on January 06, 2016, 04:25:06 PM
Did we get the lone White guy form the UA game again?

Dan Smith is a BYU lock I'm told.
Title: Re: Under Armour game
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 06, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
Did we get the lone White guy form the UA game again?

I think we got a few from the black team as well.  Oh wait...