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Title: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: The Six on September 09, 2015, 01:07:49 PM
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_explains_how_new_al.html#incart_2box_sports_index.ssf (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_explains_how_new_al.html#incart_2box_sports_index.ssf)


By Michael "I loves me some Tahd" Cassagrande

Nick Saban explains how new Alabama play cards work as no-huddle offense evolves


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Last year was more of an experiment. This time, Alabama's using a more scientific approach to its no-huddle offense.

Call it Alabama tempo, version 2.0.

The biggest difference in the operation against Wisconsin was the method for signaling plays in from the sideline. Two staffers hold poster-sized white boards with various logos or pictures in code. Gone are the days of hand gestures to the quarterback who then relays the message to the rest of the offense. The new play cards debuted in a game setting after practicing and scrimmaging with them since spring.

One game in, the refined methods drew positive reviews from players and Nick Saban.

"Pretty good," Saban said. "We sort of went like we wanted to go."

It's not always about going fast between plays, either. Sometimes it's a matter of rhythm and comfort to continue with the next play without huddling. A few times, though, Alabama moved fast.

The shortest gap between two plays was 16 seconds. On the first drive, there was a 17-second turnaround.

Other times, they'd rush back to the ball and quarterback Jake Coker would look to the sideline. Adjustments could be made at that point if the defensive formation wasn't conducive to the next play.

"It's cool, probably, for the fans, but for us, we look at it more like it has a meaning to us," tight end O.J. Howard said. "So we don't really get up in the funny looking signs. Some of them are pretty funny to us, especially when we get new ones. But at the same time, they mean things to us so we really don't get caught up in what they stand for or what they look like."

Howard's favorite sign? Domino's Pizza logo.

There's a code behind the signs, but Saban was hesitant to say much about it on his radio show last Thursday.

"Let's just say this, the signs do mean something," he said. "There's more than one sign and they both mean something, but one of those signs is dead. Aight, so it's like we're in camouflage. So which one means something?"

Saban also explained the origin of the new system in more detail after touching on it in August.

"Lane didn't really want to go no-huddle," Saban said on the radio broadcast. "He had never done it before. I was pushing for it because I thought it would be easier for Blake Sims to operate, which it really was. When you go fast, it's simpler."

They met with coaches from around the country at schools like Ohio State and TCU who use the cards.

"We talked to a lot of different people that do this stuff and we felt like this was the most comfortable way to communicate effectively on offense if you wanted to go no huddle," Saban said. "Even if you go no huddle and don't go fast, it's still an effective way to communicate."

The cards are more for the skilled position players and not for the offensive linemen. Left tackle Cam Robinson didn't want to say much about how they communicated play calls.

"I don't know if coach would be too comfortable with me giving away that kind of information," he said with a grin.

Next thing you know there will be a billboard on I-65 with Kiffin and Henry and the words "Bama Speed" in large letters.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 09, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
Player safety be damned!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: CCTAU on September 09, 2015, 01:37:56 PM
He is an innovator!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 09, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
If only somebody else had thought about using those cards!  Damn you, Nick Saban!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: smooth_operator on September 09, 2015, 01:52:59 PM
Every time I try to step back from it. Every time I think it's just irrational confirmation bias. Every time I decide it's just college football, those motherfuckers find a way to act like glaring, gaping assholes with clear purpose and intent. Every fucking time. Just cartoonishly, absurdly with malice-a forethought assholes. They're not even trying to pretend to be classy anymore. They've adopted the mannerisms of the lowest common denominator fan base and it is disgusting.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 09, 2015, 01:53:47 PM
Hey, you guys heard about this internet thing. Its pretty damn cool.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 09, 2015, 01:55:57 PM
Hey, you guys heard about this internet thing. Its pretty damn cool.

I heard Lane Kiffin invented it.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 09, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Hey, you guys heard about this internet thing. Its pretty damn cool.
Isn't that the new fangled computer talky thingy that Al Gore is working with Nick Saban to create?

It'll never take hold.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: GH2001 on September 09, 2015, 01:58:12 PM
I heard Lane Kiffin invented it.

Only at the suggestion of Saban, remember?
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 09, 2015, 01:59:43 PM
Why hell, the next thing they'll do is find a way to put peanut butter AND jelly into the same jar!

Balderdash!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 09, 2015, 02:13:48 PM
Why hell, the next thing they'll do is find a way to put peanut butter AND jelly into the same jar!

Balderdash!

Even better, there is talk about these chocolate cookies with cream in the middle. Its suppose to go great with milk. I'm calling bs. There is no way this will be any good.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 09, 2015, 02:20:28 PM
It's either science or sorcery, either way it's cutting edge.

I read an article a while back that said the laundry water used to wash the sweat out of Saban's shirts was used to cure those infected by the ebola outbreak.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: smooth_operator on September 09, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
It's either science or sorcery, either way it's cutting edge.

I read an article a while back that said the laundry water used to wash the sweat out of Saban's shirts was used to cure those infected by the ebola outbreak.

False. Nothing makes Saban sweat.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Godfather on September 09, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
False. Nothing makes Saban sweat.
Derrick Henry does
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 09, 2015, 04:15:20 PM
Derrick Henry does
You're damn right he does. He made me sweat just reading about him making Saban sweat.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 09, 2015, 04:15:53 PM
Derrick Henry's sweat cures cancer
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 09, 2015, 04:17:32 PM
Derrick Henry's sweat cures cancer

Unfortunately.....
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: AUJarhead on September 09, 2015, 04:38:01 PM
Maybe Saban can explain to me how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 09, 2015, 04:46:57 PM
False. Nothing makes Saban sweat.

Derrick Henry does


Have you ever seen Nick Saban and Derrick Henry together? 
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: AUChizad on September 09, 2015, 05:48:27 PM
When Auburn introduced the cards to our offense in Malzahn/Lashlee's first year, they were quick to point out he stolt the idea from Chip Kelly
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2013/09/post_24.html
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Using a system first devised by current Philadelphia Eagles coach Chip Kelly, Auburn's offense has been using play cards with four instantly-recognizable figures on them, although the pop culture references might be lost on the head coach.

Then they leave it ambiguous, but it sure seems that Gus started using cards for the no huddle to begin with. Kelly improved them with the images.

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Malzahn used colors and numbers on his play cards, a system designed to the get the play in fast enough to match his hurry-up, no-huddle pace, during his early days as Auburn's offensive coordinator.

And he's always tried to find something his players know well. Back in his days at Shiloh Christian, Malzahn used hand signals from Bible school to tap into things the players knew immediately after years in Christian schools.

Playing two games against Kelly's Oregon teams -- in the 2010 national championship game and last season at Arkansas State -- convinced Malzahn his signal system needed an upgrade.

"You've got to kind of keep that on the cutting edge," Malzahn said, adding a joke. "His signs were fancier than ours, so I tried to get a little competitive with that. Hopefully we're doing a better job."

By the way, if you were wondering who invented the Hurry Up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurry-up_offense
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First employed in 1899 by John Heisman's Auburn team,[1] the hurry-up offense is an American football offensive style which has two different but related forms in which the offensive team avoids delays between plays.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 09, 2015, 06:27:32 PM
 #winning
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 09, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
By the way, if you were wondering who invented the Hurry Up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurry-up_offense

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First employed in 1899 by John Heisman's Auburn team,[1] the hurry-up offense is an American football offensive style which has two different but related forms in which the offensive team avoids delays between plays.

 :thumsup:
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: The Prowler on September 10, 2015, 04:17:02 AM
Coach sabun is running that High School offense paw.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: jmar on September 10, 2015, 04:31:38 AM
Coach sabun is running that High School offense paw.
They's got movin' pictures an evarthang.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: smooth_operator on September 10, 2015, 06:17:10 AM
Coach sabun is running that High School offense paw.
Oh I can play
"Something inarticulate about the barners retroactively stealing Sabbin's brilliant hurry up no huddle offense and genius sideline play cards..ahem.. Pawl"
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: bgreene on September 10, 2015, 06:43:09 AM
Oh I can play
"Something inarticulate about the barners retroactively stealing Sabbin's brilliant hurry up no huddle offense and genius sideline play cards..ahem.. Pawl"


Only you
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 10, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
It truly is remarkable that Napoleon was able to implement a hurry up O that has player safety at the forefront, instead of the reckless and hazardous O that other hunh coaches run.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 10, 2015, 11:17:08 AM
Not only was he busy creating the HUNH offense and play cards to go along with it this summer...the creative genius bastard was also inventing a luxury van for HIS company, Mercedes!  What other wonders can we expect from this guy?????!

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Nick Saban rolls out limited edition $200K Benz luxury van


University of Alabama head football coach Nick Saban has collaborated with the Mercedes-Benz of Birmingham dealership and specialty vehicle manufacturer McSweeney Designs to create the Nick Saban Signature Series Mercedes-Benz Sprinter. (Special to AL.com/McSweeney Designs)

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box (http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box)
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 10, 2015, 11:26:25 AM
Not only was he busy creating the HUNH offense and play cards to go along with it this summer...the creative genius bastard was also inventing a luxury van for HIS company, Mercedes!  What other wonders can we expect from this guy?????!

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box (http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box)
I was going to post this but I am not as adept at utilizing the quote function. You have mastered it and I just want to say I'm damn proud to post on the same board as you.

You are one of my heroes.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Godfather on September 10, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
Not only was he busy creating the HUNH offense and play cards to go along with it this summer...the creative genius bastard was also inventing a luxury van for HIS company, Mercedes!  What other wonders can we expect from this guy?????!

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box (http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/nick_saban_collaborates_with_a.html#incart_2box)

Honey, git dem kids...were puttin the trailer up fer sale!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 10, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
If only Saban would run for Governor.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: bottomfeeder on September 11, 2015, 07:25:44 AM
If only Saban would run for Governor.
of California.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: jmar on September 11, 2015, 09:51:43 AM
of California.
Word is that Terri is shopping for real estate in so cal.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Kaos on September 11, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Honey, git dem kids...were puttin the trailer up fer sale!

FUUUUCK that.  We sellin' them damn kids, the fuckin' dawgs and I'm goin' back to tittay dancin' so's we kin get us one a dem dere Nick Sabam ArrrVeeeees. .

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/redneck-bama.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 11, 2015, 10:12:00 AM
FUUUUCK that.  We sellin' them damn kids, the fuckin' dawgs and I'm goin' back to tittay dancin' so's we kin get us one a dem dere Nick Sabam ArrrVeeeees. .

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/redneck-bama.jpg)
It's rollin' baby!
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 11, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
FUUUUCK that.  We sellin' them damn kids, the fuckin' dawgs and I'm goin' back to tittay dancin' so's we kin get us one a dem dere Nick Sabam ArrrVeeeees. .

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/redneck-bama.jpg)

Thanks. Now my breakfast is looking for a way out.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Kaos on September 11, 2015, 10:37:29 AM
Thanks. Now my breakfast is looking for a way out.


You'd fuck her.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 11, 2015, 10:42:37 AM

You'd fuck her.
That's probably where the little belly pooch came from.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 11, 2015, 10:57:59 AM
That's probably where the little belly pooch came from.

Ima have to cut a bitch.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 11, 2015, 11:07:55 AM
FUUUUCK that.  We sellin' them damn kids, the fuckin' dawgs and I'm goin' back to tittay dancin' so's we kin get us one a dem dere Nick Sabam ArrrVeeeees. .

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/redneck-bama.jpg)


Multi-racial gang-bang line. Go Alabama.    :gig: :thumsup:
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 11, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
FUUUUCK that.  We sellin' them damn kids, the fuckin' dawgs and I'm goin' back to tittay dancin' so's we kin get us one a dem dere Nick Sabam ArrrVeeeees. .

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/redneck-bama.jpg)

Most definitely a tea-bagging in her not too distant future.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 11, 2015, 12:11:04 PM
That's HAWT
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: RottenBottom on September 11, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
I like her underwear.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: GH2001 on September 11, 2015, 02:02:09 PM
Ima have to cut a bitch.

over some troof?
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: wesfau2 on September 11, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
The hillbilly hat-trick:

Drunk
Crunk
and
Bunk
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 11, 2015, 02:09:53 PM
I like her underwear.

I like the steaming pile of shit tattooed just above her muffin top.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: djsimp on September 11, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
over some troof?

You just wait till the next time I see you. I'm bringing my cleaning knife.
Title: Re: Nick Saban = Offensive Genius
Post by: DnATL on September 11, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
JR says that feeler toe sticking out was the real deal-breaker