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Title: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 30, 2015, 05:48:48 PM
Kevin Skrubdinski wrote a piece saying maybe Bama fans' claim that Auburn only cares about beating Bama while all they care about is winning National Champeenships may be true.  Basing it on the fact that right now, the SEC Network is letting the schools themselves choose the programming for a day, deciding what games will be shown.  Auburn's starts tonight at 11:00 p.m. and 3 of the classic games are Iron Bowls while the Turds didn't request any Iron Bowls.  I don't know that it proves anything but it does raise an interesting question.  2010 comes to mind.

I'll say first off, the obvious goal of any team in a Power 5 conference is, and should be to win the MNC.  It's a long shot for any team with the exception of those with the highest payrolls.  Everything has to go right and you have to have some luck along the way.  Auburn's win over Oregon was downright satisfying.  It was satisfying in the sense that as a lifelong Auburn fan, I finally got to experience a season like that. One that ended with my team as the only one left standing and raising the crystal.  Almost got to experience that again in 2013. And I believe this staff has a good chance of getting us back there again. But here's the thing about 2010.

I can sit here and recount 10X the moments from the 28-27 comeback in Tuscaloosa than our win over the Ducks.  I've probably watched a replay of that Iron Bowl 7-8 times.  Even watched one version with Eli Gold doing play by play just to hear him shit his pants at the end.  Maybe watched Oregon once.  Did the Iron Bowl mean more to me?  Damn, that's hard to say. The 2013 Iron Bowl?  Yeah, we lost to FSU later but that season was as fun as any I've ever been through and regardless of what happened after that, the Kick 6 made it a huge success for me.  Especially seeing it live in JHS.

I'm 54.  Seen a ton of Auburn foosballz in my lifetime.  Experienced a MNC.  Hope we get another.  But college football...Auburn football is about tradition.  Real traditions.  Winning a MNC didn't make me any more or less a fan of my alma tomater.  There is no game, no sporting event..hell, nothing that I look forward to more than the Iron Bowl.  Nothing stresses me out more.  Nothing keeps me on the edge of my seat for 3+ hours.  And if we win, nothing is more satisfying.  Well, outside of a stiff drink and a good blow job.  But I guess that goes without saying. 

Iron Bowl or MNC?  What say you?     

Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: AUJarhead on June 30, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
If we lost the Iron Bowl but still won the MNC, I'd be mad.

When we lost to FSU, I was disappointed.

I think that's the difference, to me at least.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Kaos on June 30, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
It's a product of your age.  Bear still lives in your head.  The 70s are real to you. Beating Alabama means so much because of that nine year span where we didn't. Where we were treated like second class citizens. Beating them is a "fuck you" to every grocery bagger and oil changer who ever gave us shit. 

Our kids? Not so much.  Over the last 30 years we beat them more often than not.  My kids want to beat Alabama, yeah.  But it's not THE goal.  My youngest said something not too long ago about Auburn "usually" beating them.   In her mind it's not a big upset if we do.  It's just part of the path to Atlanta. She'd rather go to the SEC-CG than the iron bowl. 

Fuck scarbinsky.  He has to pander sometimes.  When he does it's sickening. 
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 30, 2015, 09:09:15 PM
If the question is whether I would prefer an Iron Bowl win or a natty, I'll take the natty every time. Where would I rather be or what I would prefer to watch is a different question and makes it apples vs oranges. It's hard to beat the Iron Bowl environment.

I guess I've  attended less than ten IB's. Bar's last in bham was my first. 89 and 13 were the best I've ever been to and I can't imagine a natty being more electrifying. But I've never been to a natty.

Only been to one SEC champ and pre playoff, I would've chosen to attend that over a natty.

The playoff is a game changer re: what I'd rather attend.

But in the end, I want championships. That's why I spend big bucks to support AU athletics. Anonymously.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: bottomfeeder on June 30, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
I really want to see us shutout bama before I die (on their turf). I lived through that shit during the bahr years. I love Auburn, and just HATE bama.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Tiger Wench on June 30, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
I bought the DVD of the 2010 Iron Bowl. Did not buy the DVD of the game against Oregon.

Pretty much sums it up for me.  I'm of the "1-11 season and the 1 is the Iron Bowl and I'm happy" crowd.

Nature? Nurture?  Don't care. I just hate those inbred fucktards.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 30, 2015, 10:45:09 PM
WT mentioned the 89' Iron Bowl.  Was present and accounted for.  Greatest game I've ever witnessed and most likely always will be.  First time we ever got Bama in JHS.  Top ranked Turds.  If you weren't there, you can't grasp the concept that this was the loudest crowd at any sports venue...evah!  Heard later that the sideline announcers on the telecast said they had been to every venue in sports and this was off the charts.  Couldn't hear themselves talk.  It could be 2nd quarter....Bama with the ball at their own 36....2nd and 7....6 point game.  About as mundane a situation as you can get in a football game.  The Bama QB is calling time out because he can't fucking hear.  This was 4 hours of mayhem and we WERE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!!!  This is the Iron Bowl. This is years of frustration.  This is "You're in our house now, bitch."

No MNC game could ever match that.  And if Bama fans want to hold on to the "I'd rather win a MNC"...than an atmosphere like that...the best rivalry in all of sports...period.  Then YOU....DON'T....GET...IT.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: AWK on June 30, 2015, 11:39:15 PM
I bought the DVD of the 2010 Iron Bowl. Did not buy the DVD of the game against Oregon.

Pretty much sums it up for me.  I'm of the "1-11 season and the 1 is the Iron Bowl and I'm happy" crowd.

Nature? Nurture?  Don't care. I just hate those inbred fucktards.
You complete me.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Kaos on July 01, 2015, 01:46:13 AM
I bought the DVD of the 2010 Iron Bowl. Did not buy the DVD of the game against Oregon.

Pretty much sums it up for me.  I'm of the "1-11 season and the 1 is the Iron Bowl and I'm happy" crowd.

Nature? Nurture?  Don't care. I just hate those inbred fucktards.

I'm sorry, and I know my claim to AU is not as complete as yours because I didn't attend there but this attitude upsets me greatly. 

Until we -- as a whole -- stop basing our entire existence on how we fare against those disease-riddled fucks (and yes I do know Mr. Irony) we are doomed to perpetually be the "little brother" they claim us to be. 

1-11 SUCKS.  Beating them is some consolation, but that's all.  If we'd beaten Alabama the year we went 3-9 it wouldn't have changed anything for me.  I'd still hate it just as much. 

We have to reach the point to where the Alabama game is meaningful for state pride, but in the greater scheme of things it's only a single piece in the greater whole we are trying to create. 

Win 12 games, go the SEC Championship and play for the title but lose to Alabama vs. have no shot at the SEC or NCG but beat them?  It's a no brainer.  Lose.  Lose to them but take the bigger prize. 

Until and unless they stop meaning more than that to us, we are what they say we are.


That said, Scarbinsky's column is dumber than a dog turd with tapeworms roiling around in it. 

Those games were chosen because of what they represent.  If I'm chosing the greatest games in AU history there are some of the Iron Bowls in there, yeah.  1972 because they were supposed to be invincible and we were supposed to be nothing, but we beat them. Beat them in one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.  1982 because they'd cheated their way to a nine-year string that was on the verge of breaking our football program forever.  That win is important NOT because we beat them necessarily, but because of the turning point it represented for the program as we went on to become the Team of the 80s.  Kick Six because we beat them, but NOT just because we beat those dickholes.  Because of what that win brought to us (SEC Championship, shot at the NC) and because it was, again, one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.

Beyond that?  I'd rather see LSU in 1994. FSU in the 80s when Fullwood was there.  The win over LSU in 2006 -- hardest hitting game I've ever seen.  Georgia in 2013 and again the year Courtney recovered the fumble in the endzone to set up a win.  LSU in 2004.  Tennessee in 2004. UT when Ben Tate trucked Eric Berry.  Florida with Damon Duvall. Florida with Wes Byrum.  So many games from the 80s.  Ga. Tech.  Bo/Tommie Agee mauling Maryland.... and so on. 

I want to beat Alabama, but it's not the alpha and omega -- nor should it be. 
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 01, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
I'm sorry, and I know my claim to AU is not as complete as yours because I didn't attend there but this attitude upsets me greatly. 

Until we -- as a whole -- stop basing our entire existence on how we fare against those disease-riddled fucks (and yes I do know Mr. Irony) we are doomed to perpetually be the "little brother" they claim us to be. 

1-11 SUCKS.  Beating them is some consolation, but that's all.  If we'd beaten Alabama the year we went 3-9 it wouldn't have changed anything for me.  I'd still hate it just as much. 

We have to reach the point to where the Alabama game is meaningful for state pride, but in the greater scheme of things it's only a single piece in the greater whole we are trying to create. 

Win 12 games, go the SEC Championship and play for the title but lose to Alabama vs. have no shot at the SEC or NCG but beat them?  It's a no brainer.  Lose.  Lose to them but take the bigger prize. 

Until and unless they stop meaning more than that to us, we are what they say we are.


That said, Scarbinsky's column is dumber than a dog turd with tapeworms roiling around in it. 

Those games were chosen because of what they represent.  If I'm chosing the greatest games in AU history there are some of the Iron Bowls in there, yeah.  1972 because they were supposed to be invincible and we were supposed to be nothing, but we beat them. Beat them in one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.  1982 because they'd cheated their way to a nine-year string that was on the verge of breaking our football program forever.  That win is important NOT because we beat them necessarily, but because of the turning point it represented for the program as we went on to become the Team of the 80s.  Kick Six because we beat them, but NOT just because we beat those dickholes.  Because of what that win brought to us (SEC Championship, shot at the NC) and because it was, again, one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.

Beyond that?  I'd rather see LSU in 1994. FSU in the 80s when Fullwood was there.  The win over LSU in 2006 -- hardest hitting game I've ever seen.  Georgia in 2013 and again the year Courtney recovered the fumble in the endzone to set up a win.  LSU in 2004.  Tennessee in 2004. UT when Ben Tate trucked Eric Berry.  Florida with Damon Duvall. Florida with Wes Byrum.  So many games from the 80s.  Ga. Tech.  Bo/Tommie Agee mauling Maryland.... and so on. 

I want to beat Alabama, but it's not the alpha and omega -- nor should it be.
^^This. The last sentence, I'm talking about. The rest is the incoherent rambling of an bitter old man with a few good points spread indiscriminately but the last sentence was a moment of clarity.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Godfather on July 01, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
I'm sorry, and I know my claim to AU is not as complete as yours because I didn't attend there but this attitude upsets me greatly. 

Until we -- as a whole -- stop basing our entire existence on how we fare against those disease-riddled fucks (and yes I do know Mr. Irony) we are doomed to perpetually be the "little brother" they claim us to be. 

1-11 SUCKS.  Beating them is some consolation, but that's all.  If we'd beaten Alabama the year we went 3-9 it wouldn't have changed anything for me.  I'd still hate it just as much. 

We have to reach the point to where the Alabama game is meaningful for state pride, but in the greater scheme of things it's only a single piece in the greater whole we are trying to create. 

Win 12 games, go the SEC Championship and play for the title but lose to Alabama vs. have no shot at the SEC or NCG but beat them?  It's a no brainer.  Lose.  Lose to them but take the bigger prize. 

Until and unless they stop meaning more than that to us, we are what they say we are.


That said, Scarbinsky's column is dumber than a dog turd with tapeworms roiling around in it. 

Those games were chosen because of what they represent.  If I'm chosing the greatest games in AU history there are some of the Iron Bowls in there, yeah.  1972 because they were supposed to be invincible and we were supposed to be nothing, but we beat them. Beat them in one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.  1982 because they'd cheated their way to a nine-year string that was on the verge of breaking our football program forever.  That win is important NOT because we beat them necessarily, but because of the turning point it represented for the program as we went on to become the Team of the 80s.  Kick Six because we beat them, but NOT just because we beat those dickholes.  Because of what that win brought to us (SEC Championship, shot at the NC) and because it was, again, one of the most incredible finishes in college football history.

Beyond that?  I'd rather see LSU in 1994. FSU in the 80s when Fullwood was there.  The win over LSU in 2006 -- hardest hitting game I've ever seen.  Georgia in 2013 and again the year Courtney recovered the fumble in the endzone to set up a win.  LSU in 2004.  Tennessee in 2004. UT when Ben Tate trucked Eric Berry.  Florida with Damon Duvall. Florida with Wes Byrum.  So many games from the 80s.  Ga. Tech.  Bo/Tommie Agee mauling Maryland.... and so on. 

I want to beat Alabama, but it's not the alpha and omega -- nor should it be.

This +1 x 1000
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 01, 2015, 10:12:34 AM
I really want to see us shutout bama before I die (on their turf). I lived through that shit during the bahr years. I love Auburn, and just HATE bama.

I lived through the 70's, was prolly easier cause I lived in Opelika and was less turd fans.


I liked the 2010 and 2013 turd games, broke their hearts, 2010 especially early in the game they just knew they had ended our season.

I'd much rather see us on the big stage. 2010 will be a season I will never forget, was lucky enough to attend 4 games that year. You knew when we went up 21 in the second 1/2 on SC that we were going to the MNC. A feeling I had never had. I tried like a mofo to get tickets to Glendale.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 01, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
I really want to see us shutout bama before I die (on their turf). I lived through that shit during the bahr years. I love Auburn, and just HATE bama.


Were you alive in 2000?
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: AUJarhead on July 01, 2015, 10:29:46 AM

Were you alive in 2000?

This greeted us when we drove back to Auburn following that game.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/6473/ngqKaG.jpg)
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 01, 2015, 10:33:57 AM
Boom.  I didn't go but if I recall, wasn't it rainy and cold or snowing or something at that one?
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 01, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
Boom.  I didn't go but if I recall, wasn't it rainy and cold or snowing or something at that one?


Rained the whole the day,  sloppy field. I was in Jacksonville Fl and it was cold there that day.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: AUJarhead on July 01, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
Boom.  I didn't go but if I recall, wasn't it rainy and cold or snowing or something at that one?

It was in the low 30s,/Upper 20s and misty/icy rain the whole day.  It was wonderful being so cold and wet.

I hate that fucking stadium and never want to go back.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 01, 2015, 11:57:02 AM
Boom.  I didn't go but if I recall, wasn't it rainy and cold or snowing or something at that one?

Sleet through the first half, then a cold rain for the second half.  Stayed long enough to sing the reverse rammer jammer to the tens of bammer fans that were there.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: djsimp on July 01, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
WT mentioned the 89' Iron Bowl.  Was present and accounted for.  Greatest game I've ever witnessed and most likely always will be.  First time we ever got Bama in JHS.  Top ranked Turds.  If you weren't there, you can't grasp the concept that this was the loudest crowd at any sports venue...evah!  Heard later that the sideline announcers on the telecast said they had been to every venue in sports and this was off the charts.  Couldn't hear themselves talk.  It could be 2nd quarter....Bama with the ball at their own 36....2nd and 7....6 point game.  About as mundane a situation as you can get in a football game.  The Bama QB is calling time out because he can't fucking hear.  This was 4 hours of mayhem and we WERE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!!!  This is the Iron Bowl. This is years of frustration.  This is "You're in our house now, bitch."

No MNC game could ever match that.  And if Bama fans want to hold on to the "I'd rather win a MNC"...than an atmosphere like that...the best rivalry in all of sports...period.  Then YOU....DON'T....GET...IT.

 :classic:
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: The Six on July 01, 2015, 11:00:34 PM
Sleet through the first half, then a cold rain for the second half.  Stayed long enough to sing the reverse rammer jammer to the tens of bammer fans that were there.

I was working in Sears Tool & Hardware half way through graduate school. Missed about 3 years of football in that time span.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Tiger Wench on July 02, 2015, 12:21:32 AM
The joy of beating bammer is not a *comparison* of us against them. It's. It's not little brother finally beating the shit out of his older brother.

It's beating your biggest rival. It's having bragging rights for 24/7/365. The rivalry thing is what makes college football so much better than any other sport.

It's not *finally* beating them, not anymore. Not since Fear The Thumb. Now it's just plain BEATING THEM. We are their match, their equal, and they can't deny it, ancient history and dead coaching messiahs be damned.

Yes, I'd love to win a Natty every year. But you simply AREN'T going to do that every year. Too many variables -  like we win the SEC and still need tOSU to lose to get to the last NCG. Whereas beating your hated fucktarded inbred rivals is ALWAYS a possibility. Is always an obtainable goal. And has lasting repercussions.

You don't walk into Wal Mart and crow about beating Oregon - no one but other AU people give a shit

But you can flat out end any argument with a Turd fan from now until the end of time with "Got A Second?"

And that, to quote Uncle Sani, is GLORIOUS. 


Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 02, 2015, 07:27:02 AM
I was working in Sears Tool & Hardware half way through graduate school. Missed about 3 years of football in that time span.
This is a prime example of why I contend that education is vastly overrated. Missing 3 years of AU football is not worth a gazillion dollars. Or even ten gazillion.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: AUJarhead on July 02, 2015, 08:22:31 AM
This is a prime example of why I contend that education is vastly overrated. Missing 3 years of AU football is not worth a gazillion dollars. Or even ten gazillion.

Clearly you weren't a fan from 1990-1992.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: WiregrassTiger on July 02, 2015, 08:26:02 AM
Clearly you weren't a fan from 1990-1992.
Only a passive interest back then as a young boy.  I wasn't  the powerbroker that I am today.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 02, 2015, 10:41:13 AM
Watched the Kick 6 game again last night.  I got goose bumps on my inner thighs.  Me, Snagette and Mini Snags were all in JHS that night and all 3 of us were glued to the tube last night at the end.  (Kind of kinky thing we like to do as a family)  I still don't know if it has set in how big that was. The Iron Bowl was prime time.  It was #4 against #1.  It was for the West, Atlanta and maybe a birth in the BCS.  It was one of the wildest plays, wildest endings and wildest scenes afterward in the history of college football. It was the rest of the country becoming huge Auburn fans for a little while and wishing they could ever be a part of something like that.

My thighs are tingling again.   
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Godfather on July 02, 2015, 11:19:57 AM
My thighs are tingling again.

At your age sitting for too long can cause clots, don't forget to stand up every now and again.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 02, 2015, 11:24:38 AM
At your age sitting for too long can cause clots, don't forget to stand up every now and again.

For real.  My doctor told me that I shou.......wait......kiss my ass.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: DnATL on July 03, 2015, 08:41:20 AM
Watched the Kick 6 game again last night.  I got goose bumps on my inner thighs.  Me, Snagette and Mini Snags were all in JHS that night and all 3 of us were glued to the tube last night at the end.  (Kind of kinky thing we like to do as a family)  I still don't know if it has set in how big that was. The Iron Bowl was prime time.  It was #4 against #1.  It was for the West, Atlanta and maybe a birth in the BCS.  It was one of the wildest plays, wildest endings and wildest scenes afterward in the history of college football. It was the rest of the country becoming huge Auburn fans for a little while and wishing they could ever be a part of something like that.

My thighs are tingling again.
But do you call yourselves "The Aristocrats"?
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: jmar on July 03, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
We can beat Alabama.
We need to beat UGA.


Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 09, 2015, 04:20:37 PM
Watching what some of the different schools chose to show over the last week speaks volumes about where certain programs are.  For instance, Mississippi State showed what aldot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. calls the biggest win in Dan Mullens' career.  Last year's victory over an 8-5 Auburn team.   
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: CCTAU on July 10, 2015, 10:11:47 AM
WT mentioned the 89' Iron Bowl.  Was present and accounted for.  Greatest game I've ever witnessed and most likely always will be.  First time we ever got Bama in JHS.  Top ranked Turds.  If you weren't there, you can't grasp the concept that this was the loudest crowd at any sports venue...evah!  Heard later that the sideline announcers on the telecast said they had been to every venue in sports and this was off the charts.  Couldn't hear themselves talk.  It could be 2nd quarter....Bama with the ball at their own 36....2nd and 7....6 point game.  About as mundane a situation as you can get in a football game.  The Bama QB is calling time out because he can't fucking hear.  This was 4 hours of mayhem and we WERE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!!!  This is the Iron Bowl. This is years of frustration.  This is "You're in our house now, bitch."

No MNC game could ever match that.  And if Bama fans want to hold on to the "I'd rather win a MNC"...than an atmosphere like that...the best rivalry in all of sports...period.  Then YOU....DON'T....GET...IT.

Visiting sideline. 50 yard line. ROW 1.

Heckled the bammer players the whole game. Sad for my friend Kevin Turner when he fumbled, but still gave him hell.
Title: Re: Bama vs. MNC
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 10, 2015, 11:26:37 AM
Visiting sideline. 50 yard line. ROW 1.

Heckled the bammer players the whole game. Sad for my friend Kevin Turner when he fumbled, but still gave him hell.

I was straight behind you.  In the sky box.  The ONLY drawback to being in there that day was that I couldn't really appreciate the crowd noise.  That, and I didn't blow navy and orange shaker haze from my nose the next week like many of my friends.