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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on May 04, 2015, 01:14:54 AM
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I got caught up in it. Was in New Orleans this weekend and felt enough of the hype to go to Harrahs and jostle with a bunch of assclowns in an oversold standing room only melee to see Manny and Money in the ring.
What a joke.
Let me get the racism out of the way first.
a) The room was pretty divided. Every single "african american" was raising hell for Mayweather. Everybody else in the room was against him. When the fight was over, the thug yelling "fuck ya'll bitches, money the man" was about to see if an older guy could whip his ass in a more exciting version of the non-brawl we'd seen on TV. Thanks to the people I was with who recognized my expired fuse and a couple of his friends who saw what was about to happen and folded his ass into the crowd, the fight never happened. Just like the one we were supposed to watch I guess.
b) Every single time Manny tagged Mayweather the bitch was allowed to wrap him up and stay that way for a while. Long enough to give him a chance to clear his head at least. I got sick of watching the hugs and headlocks while the referee stood with his finger up his ass. The one time Manny tried to go for a clinch, though, that "african american" fuck referee had them broken up before he'd barely reached out. And then let Mayweather land a punch in the break (one of the three or four punches the rat bastard threw all fight).
Now, the "fight" itself. I've seen more action at the Ryans Buffet line when there was only one salisbury steak left and two grandmas had their forks set on it.
I saw some bullshit compubox stat that said Mayweather threw something like 450 punches and landed 35% of them. Horseshit. He threw maybe half a dozen.
Fuck boxing. I knew by the third round it was over unless Pac knocked the fuckstick out. He wasn't going to win on points. There was no reason whatsoever for the judges to have it three straight rounds for Mayweather when he'd done nothing but duck, dodge and run.
The sport is ruined. What I wasted my $30 on this weekend was an epic dud.
Now I'm hearing Pac had a busted shoulder and some bullshit from Mayweather's camp denied him treatment.
All I know is I saw to tentative pussies trying their best not to lose.
I don't care if Mayweather retires undefeated. He will never be in the circle of all time greats that includes Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Lewis, Tyson.... He's just a pussy punk. I'd like to fight his ass. Give me $2 million and I'll get in there and pin his mouthy little body against the ropes and punch him until he breaks or I get tired.
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I didn't see the fight and don't think I would have watched it had it been on ESPN. I knew this fight was going to be exactly what it turned out to be. Mayweather is a quick, defensive specialist who does what K just said. Throw a punch or two and clench 74 times per round. Packee-Yow is way past his prime and had no chance of knocking him out. Thus, 12 rounds of yawn. Yep, boxing is dead and I don't know that it can be revived.
It used to be the heavyweights. Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, etc. Then the welterweights took over. You want to talk about some of the most action packed fights ever put on. Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hit Man Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Hands of Stone Duran, Wilfred Benitez...
None of them liked each other. All had "Knock you the F out" power and all of them came in to the ring to put on a show. And they normally delivered.
My question though is, "What about Rocky Marciano?"
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Now, the "fight" itself. I've seen more action at the Ryans Buffet line when there was only one salisbury steak left and two grandmas had their forks set on it.
This is what I pictured. Thanks for putting it in words.
None of them liked each other. All had "Knock you the F out" power and all of them came in to the ring to put on a show. And they normally delivered.
This is gone. And that is why MMA has had its meteoric rise. Boxing dropped the ball.
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This is gone. And that is why MMA has had its meteoric rise. Boxing dropped the ball.
MMA surpassed boxing on the mainstream about 5 years ago like a flash. This tells me er'body was sick of boxing and no one trusted it. Also that the career lifespan of a MMA fighter is much shorter so you constantly have new faces that are hungry for a belt.
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Boxing has been dead for 20 years.
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Boxing has been dead for 20 years.
Once Tyson took out of Holyfields ear, boxing croaked.
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Once Tyson took out of Holyfields ear, boxing croaked.
Once Tyson went to prison delaying the fights with Holyfield, boxing croaked.
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Boxing was dead to me once I couldn't get passed Soda Popinski.
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The fight just reenforced why boxing is dead and UFC is the new king.
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Boxing was dead to me once I couldn't get passed Soda Popinski.
Lame, I got to Tyson, you need to work on your skillz Soda Popinski was cake.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PPhyBUsxaA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PPhyBUsxaA)
Would have been worth the $100
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCVhyrgWSBY
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how was Jerry Lee Lewis?
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I blame Robin Givens.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PPhyBUsxaA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PPhyBUsxaA)
Would have been worth the $100
Now THAT is what I'm talking about.
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It was a sport rarely seen on television before the '70s. And if you followed it, you listened on the radio.
Not entertaining and hasn't been for me since Leonard-Duran.
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It was a sport rarely seen on television before the '70s. And if you followed it, you listened on the radio.
Not entertaining and hasn't been for me since Leonard-Duran.
wasn't that every sport...?
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I blame Robin Givens.
I blame Don King. He fucked Tyson more than Givens did.
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I remembered the Hagler-Hearns battle. Watching that on YouTube led me to some other fights of that era.
That brings me to Sugar Ray Leonard.
That was some bullshit there. Hagler beat his ass and the judges gave the fight to Sugar Ray. Hearns whipped his sugary ass and the judges called it a draw. I know Ray was a goodstylish fighter. But until the end of his career he seemed to get special treatment and picked up some wins he didn't deserve.
I also didn't know that Ray knocked out Floyd's silverback father in 1978. (Howard Cosell noted that 'I told you Floyd Mayweather cannot hurt you...' late in the fight. Similar to his son, apparently). Ray did to daddy floyd what I expected Manny to do to the punk ass son.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwbfUuEI5Ow
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Gerry Cooney could've whipped them all.
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Gerry Cooney could've whipped them all.
Have you not read the rules on racism here? I suggest you do. Mods, delete this post please. And spike his warn meter, Centurion...very roughly.
Oh, and throw him to the floor.
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Gerry Cooney could've whipped them all.
I agree, he would face punch their fist till they were sore.
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Have you not read the rules on racism here? I suggest you do. Mods, delete this post please. And spike his warn meter, Centurion...very roughly.
Oh, and throw him to the floor.
I'll not be widdiculed by the common soldierwy. I want this man fighting wabid wild animals by sunown.
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I'll not be widdiculed by the common soldierwy. I want this man fighting wabid wild animals by sunown.
He has a wife, you know. You know what she's called? She's called... 'Incontinentia'... Incontinentia Buttocks
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What about Rocky Marciano?
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What about Rocky Marciano?
We will welease Wocky Marciano!
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What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?
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What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?
I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called Biggus Dickus.
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What about Rocky Marciano?
Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out their ass.
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Mannys shoulder injury was legit. Surgery needed. Out for a while. Fuck you Floyd. You fought a dude with a fucked up shoulder and still looked like shit.
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Mannys shoulder injury was legit. Surgery needed. Out for a while. Fuck you Floyd. You fought a dude with a fucked up shoulder and still looked like shit.
Fuck manny.
Should have backed out instead of fucking over all the people who paid for that farce.
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Fuck manny.
Should have backed out instead of fucking over all the people who paid for that farce.
No reason. He got his $100M and it didn't matter. The backlash would have been worse if he would have pulled out. Until they start putting most of the money in for winning the fight, this won't stop.
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Fuck manny.
Should have backed out instead of fucking over all the people who paid for that farce.
Actually fuck both of them. They should have fought five years ago.
I have watched boxing since I was a little boy. My dad would watch all the great middleweights, Duran, Hearns, Haggler, Leonard and then came along guys like James Toney, Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Calzaghe.
The Chavez, Whitaker, De La Hoya fights were awesome. So were they Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Bowe days. I love boxing. To the casual boxing fan it hasn't been good since those days, but to someone who watches more boxing than they do any other sport there has been good boxing, but it has all been middleweight and below. There hasn't been any action in the Heavyweights since the early 2000's really. The Klitschko's have all but dominated other than a stint where Lennox Lewis had the belts. No big guys, no one watches.
I'm just glad all the casual boxing fans can go back to not acting like they care about boxing.
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Actually fuck both of them. They should have fought five years ago.
I have watched boxing since I was a little boy. My dad would watch all the great middleweights, Duran, Hearns, Haggler, Leonard and then came along guys like James Toney, Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Calzaghe.
The Chavez, Whitaker, De La Hoya fights were awesome. So were they Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Bowe days. I love boxing. To the casual boxing fan it hasn't been good since those days, but to someone who watches more boxing than they do any other sport there has been good boxing, but it has all been middleweight and below. There hasn't been any action in the Heavyweights since the early 2000's really. The Klitschko's have all but dominated other than a stint where Lennox Lewis had the belts. No big guys, no one watches.
I'm just glad all the casual boxing fans can go back to not acting like they care about boxing.
Let me casually say, lick me. :tongue:
But srsly, I used to be right there witcha' which is why I mentioned one of the greatest periods of boxing, in my book anyway. Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Duran.... Yeah, the round 1 war between Hearns and Hagler that WE posted was something you don't see much of in any fight. But those guys during that time genuinely didn't like each other and they showed up to give the fans what they paid for.
As for Tyson, just not sure where to put the guy in the overall picture of heavyweights history. I tend to think he doesn't rate very high. No doubt, the guy was "Must watch TV", especially in his early career. Black trunks, black shoes, no socks....bell rings and he moves forward and throws every single punch with the intent of knocking his opponent in the 5th row. Never been seen before to that extent. But honestly, the heavyweight division was horrible back then and they basically lined up a dozen or so tomato cans for Tyson to destroy. As soon as he and Cus split and the competition level picked up, he became less of this indestructible machine with each passing year.
Oh, anyone who follows boxing even a little bit knows who Teddy Atlas is. Check out this little tidbit from teh Wiki's. (Which means it must be true. :thumsup:)
Teddy Atlas trained as an amateur boxer with Hall of Fame trainer Cus D'Amato. He had some amateur fights but had to turn to training due to a back injury. Atlas was an assistant to D'Amato, although his role in the Catskill Boxing Club was short-lived. His duties included assisting in the training of D'Amato's teenage protégé Mike Tyson. However, Atlas left the camp in 1981 following an altercation with the 15 year old Tyson after Tyson had been sexually inappropriate with a 12 year old female relative of Atlas's (Tyson said he had grabbed the girl's buttocks). Atlas put a .38 caliber handgun to Tyson's ear and told him to never touch his family again or he would kill him if he did.[3] This altercation between Atlas and a young Mike Tyson led to Atlas' dismissal from the Catskill Boxing Club and he was told he was no longer welcome in D'Amato's home or around any of his adopted children (his fighters whom he had legally adopted, Tyson included).
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Actually fuck both of them. They should have fought five years ago.
I have watched boxing since I was a little boy. My dad would watch all the great middleweights, Duran, Hearns, Haggler, Leonard and then came along guys like James Toney, Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Calzaghe.
The Chavez, Whitaker, De La Hoya fights were awesome. So were they Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Bowe days. I love boxing. To the casual boxing fan it hasn't been good since those days, but to someone who watches more boxing than they do any other sport there has been good boxing, but it has all been middleweight and below. There hasn't been any action in the Heavyweights since the early 2000's really. The Klitschko's have all but dominated other than a stint where Lennox Lewis had the belts. No big guys, no one watches.
I'm just glad all the casual boxing fans can go back to not acting like they care about boxing.
I casually care about boxing. I care when it's compelling and at least has some small hint of fairness. I care when the fighters and the fights are entertaining. I care about the science of it.
Watching Floyd duck and dodge until Manny slowed down (which Leonard was also known for) was disappointing. I was disappointed in how the fight was officiated when it finally came about. Floyd plays defense and throws a punch or two here and there. He shouldn't have been allowed to stop every assault with a hug.
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I casually care about boxing. I care when it's compelling and at least has some small hint of fairness. I care when the fighters and the fights are entertaining. I care about the science of it.
Watching Floyd duck and dodge until Manny slowed down (which Leonard was also known for) was disappointing. I was disappointed in how the fight was officiated when it finally came about. Floyd plays defense and throws a punch or two here and there. He shouldn't have been allowed to stop every assault with a hug.
Broner / Maidana fight was a great one. Those smaller guys will swap licks. Just have to find the good fights.
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And for the record, that's how Mayweather fights every fight. There wasn't any way in hell i was paying for it, I knew exactly what would happen. Mayweather plays defense and thats it. That's what he's done for the better part of his career.
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And for the record, that's how Mayweather fights every fight. There wasn't any way in hell i was paying for it, I knew exactly what would happen. Mayweather plays defense and thats it. That's what he's done for the better part of his career.
Exactly why nobody should have paid for this fight. Mayweather is lil punk boxer afraid to get dirty.
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Exactly why nobody should have paid for this fight. Mayweather is lil punk boxer afraid to get dirty.
i understand and agree...out of the ring, mayweather is a punk.
in the ring, i can't knock his boxing style as being a punk and/or afraid. he boxes his fight rather fight the fight. the dude is a fine boxer.
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I'd sure like to get any of you punk ass bitches into the ring. I'd wear that ass out.
That sounds very gay.
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i understand and agree...out of the ring, mayweather is a punk.
in the ring, i can't knock his boxing style as being a punk and/or afraid. he boxes his fight rather fight the fight. the dude is a fine boxer.
Agree to disagree