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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: dallaswareagle on January 13, 2015, 03:05:45 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/eBEU-OiEvII (https://www.youtube.com/embed/eBEU-OiEvII)
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Question. What kind of ammo/rockets/boom-booms were they using? At first, it looked like they were spraying them with machine gun fire. Using LARGE machine guns Then, it looked like they were sending a rocket up dat a$$. A few times, it appeared they dropped the bad guys. In others, it looked like a single shot turned the guy into spaghetti.
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Question. What kind of ammo/rockets/boom-booms were they using? At first, it looked like they were spraying them with machine gun fire. Using LARGE machine guns Then, it looked like they were sending a rocket up dat a$$. A few times, it appeared they dropped the bad guys. In others, it looked like a single shot turned the guy into spaghetti.
The spraying is 30mm cannon fire, it can ruin your day. Yes, they were using one hell fire missle to kill one person. When I was in the birds were alway given free range to pick and choose what weapons to use. Some caught a lot of flack if they came back with inventory and troops on site got hurt by any enemy fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun)
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The spraying is 30mm cannon fire, it can ruin your day. Yes, they were using one hell fire missle to kill one person. When I was in the birds were alway given free range to pick and choose what weapons to use. Some caught a lot of flack if they came back with inventory and troops on site got hurt by any enemy fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun)
Anything like.....?
http://youtu.be/DKYyYGf4l8Y (http://youtu.be/DKYyYGf4l8Y)
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Anything like.....?
http://youtu.be/DKYyYGf4l8Y (http://youtu.be/DKYyYGf4l8Y)
That's a hand held vulcan mini-gun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minigun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minigun)
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I'm obviously eeliterate when it comes to a lot of this stuff. I recall my hunting days when I had a 7mm rifle. It was basically designed for shooting from mountain top to mountain top to drop a bear. Way more than I ever needed in Alabama but the more fire power, the better, right? And this is 30mm? So a direct hit either cuts him in half or splatters him all over the rocks. Amarite?
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I'm obviously eeliterate when it comes to a lot of this stuff. I recall my hunting days when I had a 7mm rifle. It was basically designed for shooting from mountain top to mountain top to drop a bear. Way more than I ever needed in Alabama but the more fire power, the better, right? And this is 30mm? So a direct hit either cuts him in half or splatters him all over the rocks. Amarite?
Both. Because of the rate of fire it is very seldom that only one hits you.
When you see TV clips and you see tracers firing down range, just know that tracers are set at every 4th round, the other three you can't see.
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Both. Because of the rate of fire it is very seldom that only one hits you.
When you see TV clips and you see tracers firing down range, just know that tracers are set at every 4th round, the other three you can't see.
That, I did not know. In this particular operation, you had what, 2 choppers (3.7)? Or was the communication between the pilot and someone doing the shooting? Or does the pilot do the shooting?
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That, I did not know. In this particular operation, you had what, 2 choppers (3.7)? Or was the communication between the pilot and someone doing the shooting? Or does the pilot do the shooting?
I don't think those were choppers pretty sure those were drones.
and I imagine he was communicating with the ground team and his command team.
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That, I did not know. In this particular operation, you had what, 2 choppers (3.7)? Or was the communication between the pilot and someone doing the shooting? Or does the pilot do the shooting?
There were two birds on station. The first one ran out of 30mm ammo and that's why he went to missiles.
The pilot does the flying (back seat) while the co-pilot/Gunner engages targets.
You had the two birds talking to each other and also you had command in there also alerting them about "friendlies" in the area.
When done right the guys can "bring the pain to the enemy"
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I don't think those were choppers pretty sure those were drones.
and I imagine he was communicating with the ground team and his command team.
Could be right, I don't remember the drones having MG capabilities.
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There were two birds on station. The first one ran out of 30mm ammo and that's why he went to missiles.
The pilot does the flying (back seat) while the co-pilot/Gunner engages targets.
You had the two birds talking to each other and also you had command in there also alerting them about "friendlies" in the area.
When done right the guys can "bring the pain to the enemy"
Another question. How far away are they when they're firing? It didn't appear too many of the sheet heads were in a panic. Some just sitting there waiting to go splat.
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Another question. How far away are they when they're firing? It didn't appear too many of the sheet heads were in a panic. Some just sitting there waiting to go splat.
If memory serves;
30mm cannon effective fire from around 2000 meters with a max effective range of 5000 meters.
Went to Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_AH-64_Apache (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_AH-64_Apache)
This could be what we are seeing. Different from when I was in.
The AH-64E Apache has the ability to control unmanned aerial vehicles, used by the U.S. Army to perform aerial scouting missions previously performed by the OH-58 Kiowa. Apaches can request to take control of an RQ-7 Shadow or MQ-1C Grey Eagle from ground control stations to safely scout via datalink communications. There are four levels of UAV interoperability (LOI): LOI 1 indirectly receives payload data; LOI 2 receives payload data through direct communication; LOI 3 deploys the UAV's armaments; and LOI 4 takes over flight control. UAVs can search for enemies and, if equipped with a laser designator, target them for the Apache or other friendly aircraft.
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So, they can fire those shots at a minimum of a little more than a mile away. No wonder a lot of the baddies weren't in full haul a$$ mode.
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You are right consensus seems to be an Apache helicopter.
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So, they can fire those shots at a minimum of a little more than a mile away. No wonder a lot of the baddies weren't in full haul a$$ mode.
The funny thing about the Hell fires is if you noticed it comes almost straight down on target, the gunner fires them at an up angle, it picks up the laser sighting and "boom goes achmed"
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The funny thing about the Hell fires is if you noticed it comes almost straight down on target, the gunner fires them at an up angle, it picks up the laser sighting and "boom goes achmed"
That was where I was going next. The video looks like he's an observer and the dy-no-mite is dropping in from somewhere else. Please to be explain. The gunner locks a laser in on the target and then he launches said 30mm in that general direction and they track to the target?
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That was where I was going next. The video looks like he's an observer and the dy-no-mite is dropping in from somewhere else. Please to be explain. The gunner locks a laser in on the target and then he launches said 30mm in that general direction and they track to the target?
The 30mm(machine gun) is sight on target (no laser). They gauge distance, angle (with on board computer help) and pull the trigger. You see a spray pattern and the could be on purpose or the bird shifted while firing.
The hell fire missle is a laser guided to target. Lasers can be shot from ground forces, drones, other birds.
From the wikis:
The AGM-114L, or Longbow Hellfire, is a fire-and-forget weapon: equipped with a millimeter wave (MMW) radar seeker, it requires no further guidance after launch—even being able to lock-on to its target after launch[8]—and can hit its target without the launcher or other friendly unit being in line of sight of the target.
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I'm starting to worry now. When soldiers go into a particular combat situation, do all of you go to the wiki's to learn how to fire your weapons?
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This reminded me of a story a buddy of mine talked about after his tour. As a drone pilot in Iraq, his job was similar to what this video portrayed (with regards to patrolling the friendly skies and keeping the good guys safe).
One particular mission, they were monitoring a targeted encampment of enemies who were completely oblivious to Uncle Sam's eye in the sky. While that night's activity was pretty consolidated within a small area, there were various foot patrols and domesticated animals milling about. My buddy zeroed in on one particular combatant as he casually patrolled passed a dog roped to (something). Only the savage didn't just pass by... Yep, instead the sick SOB dropped trousers/lifted robe whatever and swiftly had his way with Fido.
Unfortunately for jihadi Jumbo, his little romp wasn't as private as he thought. Authorization to engage was given shortly thereafter and he and the rest of his pals were given a fast ticket to allah. I don't know what became of Fido but I like to think it was better off regardless.
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That will never sell. The graphics in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare are much better than that.
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I'm starting to worry now. When soldiers go into a particular combat situation, do all of you go to the wiki's to learn how to fire your weapons?
Playstation
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On an unrelated note. The technology of killing bad guys just keeps advancing. from teh foxnewsdot I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
What if grenades could locate threats and detonate all on their own?
A new smart grenade can do just that. With this grenade, soldiers will know with certainty that it will strike its target.
The U.S. Army is developing the SAGM, Small Arms Grenade Munitions round.
The SAGM is a new kind of grenade that can find an enemy hiding behind an object, a wall or other would-be cover. This is next-generation enhanced grenade lethality.
Why make grenades smart?
When enemies take positions behind, say, low mud walls typical of battle environments like Afghanistan, they can avoid grenade rounds. In order to most effectively hit a target, soldiers often require a direct line of sight with an M203 rifle-mounted grenade launcher and standard grenades.
A smart grenade could solve this problem.
Just like other “smart†tech that can complete tasks without its user providing instructions, this smart grenade can find its target itself.
When the SAGM is fired, the grenade will recognize its surroundings and the cover used by the enemy for concealment. It then detonates over the target.
The SAGM is an air-bursting grenade and more than doubles the lethality of the current 40-mm grenade against targets that are not directly in a soldier’s line of sight.
The idea is that the 40 mm low-velocity grenade is compatible with the M203 and M320 rifle-mounted grenade launchers used by the Army.
A team at the U.S. Army's Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center at Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey is developing the SAGM, beginning its research in 2012. ARDEC’s mission is to develop technology and engineering solutions for America's soldiers.
How does it work?
Using an SAGM, a soldier will not need to do any sort of pre-fire programming sequence. The solider just needs to accurately aim the weapon and fire -- the smart grenade will take care of the rest. While in the air the SAGM will detect walls, without even relying on a range finder. After it passes the wall, the SAGM explodes itself in the air above the target.
To be truly versatile and effective downrange, the SAGM will need to be able to detect and process a wide range of objects people may hide behind. The Army is working on developing a sensor system that will make the SAGM so smart it can do just that.
They’ve made the fuze "smart" by including sensors. The sensors and logic devices scan and filter the environment, detect the obstacle, figure out the best place to detonate and then autonomously airburst the fuze.
The grenade is designed to have three firing modes. The first one is the airburst after it detects the cover where someone is concealed. The next is a default detonation when it hits the target called “point detonation.†The third mode is a self-destruct feature. This final one is designed to decrease collateral damage and reduce unexploded ordnance left on the battlefield.
The Army has also been developing the XM25 grenade launcher as a direct fire method for these sorts of concealed targets. This weapon uses an on-board laser system to gauge distance to its target. It has a programmable air burst round that determines the distance to its target. The SAGM provides indirect fire.
What’s next?
SAGM is in its third and final phase of development, and is expected to undergo evaluation this summer. It is hoped that the smart grenade will become an official Army program of record this year.
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Just like the Army to develope a weapon to support their "spray and pray" mentality. All joking aside, I was disappointed the first time I observed a live grenade. After growing up and seeing the massive explosions they caused on tv, it was a let down. But once you drop one in a trench and just lay there covered up and let it go boom...wow. I wonder how effective it wil be with a mid-air explosion?
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SAGM is in its third and final phase of development, and is expected to undergo evaluation this summer. It is hoped that the smart grenade will become an official Army program of record this year.
Was TDY for 6 months on a test assignment, easiest assignment I ever had, Was testing a tube launched flame thrower. Had 4 pods that fired like a missile. We would test in the morning, that would check test pods late morning and during lunch. Played golf most afternoons as the shit never worked and don't think it made it into the field.
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This makes you wonder why we didn't declare a massive line of no mans land between Afshitistan and Pakshitistan and declare anything that moved in there will be destroyed.
These things are cheaper than human lives.
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This makes you wonder why we didn't declare a massive line of no mans land between Afshitistan and Pakshitistan and declare anything that moved in there will be destroyed.
These things are cheaper than human lives.
We should do that in Washington.
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We should do that in Washington.
Or maybe the Mexican border.