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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 10:43:22 AM
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Auburn coach Gus Malzahn says his Tigers need to be "big boys," to be men in the face of disappointment.
Defensive back Jonathan Jones says the Tigers plan to be just that.
"He's just being honest with you," Jones said. "You can take it two ways: You can take it as a challenge, or pity yourself and put your head down and give up on the rest of the season. Or you can be a big boy and become a man and face the season with your head up and keep working. We just really took it as a challenge. You have to."
Auburn is looking to rebound from its loss to Georgia with regular-season-ending wins over Samford, this Saturday at 6 p.m. in Jordan-Hare Stadium, then again at Alabama at 6:15 p.m. on Nov. 29.
"Coach said the season isn't over," Jones said. "We still have two more games. We have to block that out of our minds, which is hard to do, but we have to block it out of our minds and continue on."
Auburn is 7-3 and now will try to position itself for a big finish and a good bowl game. The Tigers, admittedly, were hoping for more.
"It's not what our goal was. That's not what our aspirations were," said receiver C.J. Uzomah. "But at the same time, we do that and we win our bowl game, that's another 10-win season. We win this week and that's 20 wins in two seasons after going 3-9 (in 2012). I think that's a huge accomplishment. I don't think that's been done in the history of college football. Going forward, we're looking for three more wins."
It starts with Samford, and Jones said a win would help "get our momentum back. Even though we're playing Samford, you do the little things and get your confidence back as a team, and that's very important heading into the last two games."
Jones said the Georgia game, a 34-7 loss, was "1. really, missed assignments and missed tackles. We gave great effort. We just have to do the little things.
"2. The game was nothing like the score showed. We were in the game, we were making plays on defense. A few mishaps cost us the game."
1. :facepalm:
2. The score was very much like the game.
I truly hope they get it together for the last game, a beating on the turds would make this season not as disappointing.
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I agree the score isn't indicative of the game. Gurley and Chubb aren't distance runners, so they were getting winded by the second half. And our offense apparently thought one TD was a day's work.
I like them forgetting most of that game. And I really hope they are playing with an edge trying to get to 10. It will be amazing to me, if they do. Will be a great comeback from a letdown and set us up nicely for next yr. Also, a boost in recruiting, I would think.
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Honestly, I wish we could flip-flop years, this year is what I expected from last year.
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Honestly, I wish we could flip-flop years, this year is what I expected from last year.
Well, it would've been if not for that Auburn luck. Or is it rainbows now?
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Honestly, I wish we could flip-flop years, this year is what I expected from last year.
I was watching on the science channel the other night and there is quite possibly another universe out there in which we are undefeated this season and in the 4 team playoff. You could talk to Bottomfeeder about making a time travel machine for you.
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Yeah I don't like the "we were in it the whole time!" angle. Maybe in the 1st quarter. Maybe you can say a muffed punt and freak-of-nature-miss on the blocked punt hampered us a bit.
But after that? The defense was being manhandled by a rather one dimensional offense. The offense was out of whack the entire game. It would be better to admit that the team got its butt beat and needs to figure out how to right the wheels.
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"1. really, missed assignments and missed tackles.
we were making plays on defense.
I don't see how you say the first one but claim the second one.
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"1. really, missed assignments and missed tackles.
we were making plays on defense.
I don't see how you say the first one but claim the second one.
Tackling Gurley well enough - as much as you can with TG anyway.
Not tackling Chubb at all.
Some plays were made. Some were not. Those that were not were bad...very bad.
Plus the guy is a 19 year old kid full of emotions right now. I wouldn't read too much into it. He isn't claiming to be Hemmingway.
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Well, I am just a guy sitting on the couch barking.
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Well, I am just a guy sitting on the couch barking.
Yeah you're man's best friend. Is that better or worse than a Numb Nutted Uncle Rico?
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http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111814aab.html (http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/111814aab.html)
Auburn coach Gus Malzahn says his Tigers need to be "big boys," to be men in the face of disappointment.
Defensive back Jonathan Jones says the Tigers plan to be just that.
"He's just being honest with you," Jones said. "You can take it two ways: You can take it as a challenge, or pity yourself and put your head down and give up on the rest of the season. Or you can be a big boy and become a man and face the season with your head up and keep working. We just really took it as a challenge. You have to."
Auburn is looking to rebound from its loss to Georgia with regular-season-ending wins over Samford, this Saturday at 6 p.m. in Jordan-Hare Stadium, then again at Alabama at 6:15 p.m. on Nov. 29.
"Coach said the season isn't over," Jones said. "We still have two more games. We have to block that out of our minds, which is hard to do, but we have to block it out of our minds and continue on."
Auburn is 7-3 and now will try to position itself for a big finish and a good bowl game. The Tigers, admittedly, were hoping for more.
"It's not what our goal was. That's not what our aspirations were," said receiver C.J. Uzomah. "But at the same time, we do that and we win our bowl game, that's another 10-win season. We win this week and that's 20 wins in two seasons after going 3-9 (in 2012). I think that's a huge accomplishment. I don't think that's been done in the history of college football. Going forward, we're looking for three more wins."
It starts with Samford, and Jones said a win would help "get our momentum back. Even though we're playing Samford, you do the little things and get your confidence back as a team, and that's very important heading into the last two games."
Jones said the Georgia game, a 34-7 loss, was "1. really, missed assignments and missed tackles. We gave great effort. We just have to do the little things.
"2. The game was nothing like the score showed. We were in the game, we were making plays on defense. A few mishaps cost us the game."
1. :facepalm:
2. The score was very much like the game.
I truly hope they get it together for the last game, a beating on the turds would make this season not as disappointing.
1. Did you go to the fucking snags school of quoting shit?
2. Use :facepalm: one more fucking time...just. one. more. fucking. time.
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1. Did you go to the fucking snags school of quoting shit?
2. Use :facepalm: one more fucking time...just. one. more. fucking. time.
Still on the :bus:
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Yeah I don't like the "we were in it the whole time!" angle. Maybe in the 1st quarter. Maybe you can say a muffed punt and freak-of-nature-miss on the blocked punt hampered us a bit.
But after that? The defense was being manhandled by a rather one dimensional offense. The offense was out of whack the entire game. It would be better to admit that the team got its butt beat and needs to figure out how to right the wheels.
I'd say we were in it until the third quarter for sure. The roughing the kicker gave them a free set of downs to make it 14-7 and the stupid ass PI on Therezie gave them a fresh set of downs on third down to make it 17-7 with a few seconds before half. Then, we hold them to a punt to open third, and our fucking WR's decide not to fucking catch balls that hit them in the hands. We still had a shot and were playing decent at this point. ANother penalty and they get the ball on about the 40 and shove it down our ass. Then and only then was it over...
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Still on the :bus:
You're god damn right. Why the fuck anyone...who was on the bus three weeks ago, is off now is beyond me...
2 or 3 fucking games that don't live up to whatever standards you guys have is bullshit.
Listen, I am disappointed with the way this shit has played out like the rest of you fuckers, but to talk about 2012 level shit is beyond fucking me...
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1. Did you go to the fucking snags school of quoting shit?
2. Use :facepalm: one more fucking time...just. one. more. fucking. time.
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"1. really, missed assignments and missed tackles.
we were making plays on defense.
I don't see how you say the first one but claim the second one.
I told you guys, Jake Holland had another year of eligibility.
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Yeah you're man's best friend. Is that better or worse than a Numb Nutted Uncle Rico?
The funny part is that you guys continue to think you are right about something. And sadly, you still aren't.
"we suck, ellis is the problem...we suck, ellis is the problem..." - thats about the extent of both of your posts everyday.
What WE!! said...effing all of it. I was as pissed as anyone. Nothing we can do about it at this point but pull up our bootstraps and line up again. There is no magical cure. Like Kaos said, the team that mauled LSU is still out there. We know it is there. Whatever it takes for that team to find the field on Nov 29th is what needs to happen. If we are tired from the schedule - well, we get a week off sort of. Lack of focus? Well, we get two weeks to prepare. Internal strife? Coaches best fix the shit. A shot at double digit wins should also be good motivation. A good bowl is on the line as well. At this point we can put it all into one game and one game only.
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The funny part is that you guys continue to think you are right about something. And sadly, you still aren't.
"we suck, ellis is the problem...we suck, ellis is the problem..." - thats about the extent of both of your posts everyday.
What WE!! said...effing all of it. I was as pissed as anyone. Nothing we can do about it at this point but pull up our bootstraps and line up again. There is no magical cure. Like Kaos said, the team that mauled LSU is still out there. We know it is there. Whatever it takes for that team to find the field on Nov 29th is what needs to happen. If we are tired from the schedule - well, we get a week off sort of. Lack of focus? Well, we get two weeks to prepare. Internal strife? Coaches best fix the shit. A shot at double digit wins should also be good motivation. A good bowl is on the line as well. At this point we can put it all into one game and one game only.
What we (and others) were saying is that we have regressed as the year went on. We are tired of seeing the basic fundamentals of defense not being corrected week in and week out. Continued missed assignments, very shoddy tackling, bad angles and such. Like you said (Lack of focus) which seems to be getting worst, not better. I don't recall anybody saying we sucked, I do recall folks saying that it looks like Ellis's defense is a problem. For you not to see that our defense gave a 41 points to a team that struggled to put 21 on a ULM team is what I don't understand.
Am I right? Prolly not, I just know what I see.
Easy game this week and then we can make our season by beating the turds and knocking them out of the playoff race and then off to a good bowl game. Lose and we end up in Shreveport most likely. Very disappointing end to this season.
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Something that worries me about our D is something Saban once said. I hate that man with a fiery passion but I think he may be on to something here...
"at this level we don't recruit players without proper fundamentals ... there simply is not enough time to correct and/or teach proper defensive fundamentals ... everything at this point is technique" - Nick Saban
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Something that worries me about our D is something Saban once said. I hate that man with a fiery passion but I think he may be on to something here...
"at this level we don't recruit players without proper fundamentals ... there simply is not enough time to correct and/or teach proper defensive fundamentals ... everything at this point is technique" - Nick Saban
:starz:
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Something that worries me about our D is something Saban once said. I hate that man with a fiery passion but I think he may be on to something here...
"at this level we don't recruit players without proper fundamentals ... there simply is not enough time to correct and/or teach proper defensive fundamentals ... everything at this point is technique" - Nick Saban
Our players had fine fundamentals against Ark and LSU. And then lost them. WTF? If talent were the lone issue, this discrepancy would not exist.
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Bottom line is our defense isn't any better that I can see after 2 years under Ellis.
I also understand that a revolving door at coordinator gets one where UF is today.
It's a delicate balance.
Defensive recruiting doesn't appear any better than last few years. Lack of d linemen in this class makes it possibly worse.
Player development on d appears stagnant if not regressing.
These are my impressions anyway.
I'm not saying that Gus should fire Ellis Johnson. But I am saying I would definitely make changes on defense if I were HC, whether it's the DC or position coaches. Somebody is getting the axe and it would be at the end of the season, unless I see miraculous progress these last 3.
And while I'm on the subject, if many of you on here don't step up your game, I promise I will fire your sorry ass quicker than you can have a chance to beg me. Get your stuff and go. Now. There have been a plethora of shootty posts for weeks on end and I'm weary of carrying you all.
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I'm not saying that this is the answer, but we play in the toughest division in College Football, by leaps and bounds. Sometimes shit happens for better or worse. It's the reason games are played.
It's the reason the Denver Broncos lose to the likes of St. Louis. It's the Reason we can beat LSU 41-7 they hang on to a close one against bammer and then get blanked by a team with 17 straight loss SEC record.
Bottom line it's not always one persons fault.
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I'm not saying that this is the answer, but we play in the toughest division in College Football, by leaps and bounds. Sometimes shit happens for better or worse. It's the reason games are played.
It's the reason the Denver Broncos lose to the likes of St. Louis. It's the Reason we can beat LSU 41-7 they hang on to a close one against bammer and then get blanked by a team with 17 straight loss SEC record.
Bottom line it's not always one persons fault.
You are looking at shit through rainbow colored glasses batman.
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Bottom line it's not always one persons fault.
See, I had already established a bottom line in my previous post. It's irresponsible to come in with another bottom line.
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I posted some stats last week comparing our first six weeks to the last few games where we've faced the more wide open, spread type offenses. I thought we'd fare a good bit better against Georgia, who for the most part, comes right at you. We did!
I hear all the complaints about Ellis and the D and granted, a lot of them are justified with the way those spread teams ripped us a new one. And no, I'm not saying we did a great job against Georgia but as bad as that game looked, they did better statistically than against MSU. This one was solely on the offense. Georgia had 34 points and 412 total yards. If our offense plays even half the game they normally do, Georgia stays in the 20's and probably does good to break 300 yards. Our offense did NOTHING.
If you think a team with Gurley and Chubb, a senior QB with a full compliment of healthy receivers isn't going to get theirs against anyone in the nation, you've lost it. Were there mistakes? Sure there were. Am I saying this is a good D and there aren't some big issues to be addressed? Absolutely not. But IMO, the discussion on Ellis' future isn't warranted after this game. What you saw against Georgia was exactly what you should expect when your offense stays on the bus.
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For you not to see that our defense gave a 41 points to a team that struggled to put 21 on a ULM team is what I don't understand.
Am I right? Prolly not, I just know what I see.
Not saying you're wrong, but ULM holding them to 21 points was also indicative of the fact A&M tossed a freshman QB into his first start. That's tough on a team no matter how good the kid's potential. Bonehead mistakes on our part put us in a hole early but I won't discount the fact that we were also unfortunate enough to bear witness to Kyle Allen's potential in his second start.
And for anyone saying just because a shitty UF team manhandled UGA a couple weeks prior means we should have also... that's ridiculous. Florida is very talented defensively, Georgia is the most schizophrenic team in the country AND they're a different team with Gurley and Chubb rotating. Again, we were forced to bear the unfortunate timing of his return and of a Zoloft-esque upswing.
Does it mean we should have lost either of those games? No. But the timing with which we've met each of the last two opponents couldn't have been much worse. Dumb mistakes on our part have plagued us but Gus is still learning his game. And I believe he will solve the problem, whatever response that may require. For having just 2+ seasons experience at it under his belt, I find what he's accomplished this far pretty damn awesome.
I'm disappointed as anyone but I'm still on the bus.
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I posted some stats last week comparing our first six weeks to the last few games where we've faced the more wide open, spread type offenses. I thought we'd fare a good bit better against Georgia, who for the most part, comes right at you. We did!
I hear all the complaints about Ellis and the D and granted, a lot of them are justified with the way those spread teams ripped us a new one. And no, I'm not saying we did a great job against Georgia but as bad as that game looked, they did better statistically than against MSU. This one was solely on the offense. Georgia had 34 points and 412 total yards. If our offense plays even half the game they normally do, Georgia stays in the 20's and probably does good to break 300 yards. Our offense did NOTHING.
If you think a team with Gurley and Chubb, a senior QB with a full compliment of healthy receivers isn't going to get theirs against anyone in the nation, you've lost it. Were there mistakes? Sure there were. Am I saying this is a good D and there aren't some big issues to be addressed? Absolutely not. But IMO, the discussion on Ellis' future isn't warranted after this game. What you saw against Georgia was exactly what you should expect when your offense stays on the bus.
Numbers schmumbers. Georgia performance by the D may have been a little better but that's kind of like being a little pregnant.
The Georgia loss clearly falls on the offense because in our minds, we can't conceivably win a 7-0 game. And I agree, it's on the o.
However, there has been 3 straight years of shittastic defense and the very slight improvement last year under EJ had our hopes up for a little more this year.
It's a matter of opinion and mine is that our defensive progress is like 12 months past due.
I will be surprised if Gus doesn't make any changes, assuming we finish in similar fashion.
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I'm disappointed as anyone but I'm still on the bus.
As we all are, I think Gus has the potential to be a Major D I coach. There are problems on the defensive side.
Its time for Gus to be the head coach.
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As we all are, I think Gus has the potential to be a Major D I coach. There are problems on the defensive side.
Its time for Gus to be the head coach.
I'm as upset and disappointed as anyone at Gus right now...I mean, 7 points from the Magic Whizkid that practically invented the art of scoring quickly? Yeah, I'm a little underwhlemed. But there is no "potential" to it. He is a major D1 coach. He's one of the big boys, which makes this all the more frustrating.
But I agree - its time for Gus to coach these boys up. This is why he makes the millions. He's got some work to do with this team and its all ultimately on him.
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You're god damn right. Why the fuck anyone...who was on the bus three weeks ago, is off now is beyond me...
2 or 3 fucking games that don't live up to whatever standards you guys have is bullshit.
Listen, I am disappointed with the way this shit has played out like the rest of you fuckers, but to talk about 2012 level shit is beyond fucking me...
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_v9RUE2nrw#)
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You are looking at shit through rainbow colored glasses batman.
I showered before he ca..wait, what?
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http://youtu.be/5Vtlovqijjo (http://youtu.be/5Vtlovqijjo)