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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: WiregrassTiger on October 28, 2014, 12:26:22 PM
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It's tonight. But it doesn't matter. I doubt AU will make top 4. Who cares? We handle our business and we make it. That part isn't looking so likely, defensively.
In the end, if we lose another one (or Bama for that matter) and FSU/ND waltz in, it'll be another travesty. No way either if those deserves it over us or another 2 loss SEC west team, IMO.
Oregon prob does.
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Don't care about the 1st, or the 5th.
Only care about the last one.
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Honestly, I worry if we win out and don't go to the SECG that we might be out. Committee has stressed the importance of winning your conference.
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I am very interested in tonight's vote if and only if the committee is voting genuinely and not simply contributing to the conversation of the season.
If they take this seriously and release the first top 25 as if it were the last, then we will find out a lot about how they are going to vote every year. We'll know what they value and what they're looking for in teams that qualify for the final four.
For example, I've heard an argument for Alabama over Auburn. The argument is that Alabama lost to a top ten team on the road and lost at the last minute. Auburn lost to the #1 team on the road but for the most part was dominated throughout the game. Point Alabama?
I've also heard that Alabama's best OOC win was against a good WVU whereas Auburn's best OOC win was against the Big Texas Conference's best team, #11 Kansas State. Point Auburn?
Or how about conference respect? Michigan State is #8 with their only loss coming against Oregon, @Oregon, early in the season. Does the committee reward or fault Michigan State for the loss? Does the committee keep Michigan State at #8, drop them, raise them? Do they care at all for the perception of the Big 10 conference?
I'll be happy if I see this:
1. Miss State
2. Florida State
3. Auburn
4. Alabama
5. Notre Dame
6. Oregon
I will not be happy if I see this:
1. Miss State
2. Florida State
3. Notre Dame
4. Oregon
5. Michigan State
6. Alabama
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I am very interested in tonight's vote if and only if the committee is voting genuinely and not simply contributing to the conversation of the season.
If they take this seriously and release the first top 25 as if it were the last, then we will find out a lot about how they are going to vote every year. We'll know what they value and what they're looking for in teams that qualify for the final four.
For example, I've heard an argument for Alabama over Auburn. The argument is that Alabama lost to a top ten team on the road and lost at the last minute. Auburn lost to the #1 team on the road but for the most part was dominated throughout the game. Point Alabama?
I've also heard that Alabama's best OOC win was against a good WVU whereas Auburn's best OOC win was against the Big Texas Conference's best team, #11 Kansas State. Point Auburn?
Or how about conference respect? Michigan State is #8 with their only loss coming against Oregon, @Oregon, early in the season. Does the committee reward or fault Michigan State for the loss? Does the committee keep Michigan State at #8, drop them, raise them? Do they care at all for the perception of the Big 10 conference?
I'll be happy if I see this:
1. Miss State
2. Florida State
3. Auburn
4. Alabama
5. Notre Dame
6. Oregon
I will not be happy if I see this:
1. Miss State
2. Florida State
3. Notre Dame
4. Oregon
5. Michigan State
6. Alabama
Lou, mark may and the rest of the ACC honks on Sunday night had it exactly like your second one. That's what worries me. They are trying to sway public perception. Not to defend nd or bama, but between those 2 and us, the losses are all to top 10 teams on the road and were not blowouts. Oregon lost to fucking wash state. But somehow everyone has them as automatic. Give me a fucking break.
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I'm not interested at all in tonight's vote. As WT said, if we win out over Ole Miss, A&M, Georgia and Bama....and then the SECCG...we're in. Period. My prediction is that everyone's apple cart is going to get upset between now and then. All this talk about how many SEC teams making it and SEC bias, when the fact is there are several very likely scenarios where this league gets skunked. Nada, zip, zilch. Think back to 2004. USC and OU went wire to wire in the polls as #1 and #2. We're a decade plus removed from that and unless my failing memory keeps failing me, nothing close to that has happened since. It ALWAYS gets wild down the stretch and teams start dropping like flies. It will happen again this year.
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My question is, why have this poll come out now if the committee is only going to consider conference champs? If this is so, this poll means diddly squat.
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My question is, why have this poll come out now if the committee is only going to consider conference champs? If this is so, this poll means diddly squat.
Just in case the turds need a way in.
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Auburn wins out. Miss. State wins out to SECCG. 2 loss UGA wins east and beats MS State in SEC championship game. What happens then?
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Auburn wins out. Miss. State wins out to SECCG. 2 loss UGA wins east and beats MS State in SEC championship game. What happens then?
Human sacrifice...dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
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Admittedly, I haven't paid much attention to the details of how this committee will work. Will each person's top 25 be advertised just like the AP voters?
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Lou, mark may and the rest of the ACC honks on Sunday night had it exactly like your second one. That's what worries me. They are trying to sway public perception. Not to defend nd or bama, but between those 2 and us, the losses are all to top 10 teams on the road and were not blowouts. Oregon lost to fucking wash state. But somehow everyone has them as automatic. Give me a fucking break.
After watching Oregon against Arizona and California, there's no way they should be in the top 4. They are a shell of their former selves. Without Mariota next year, they'll lose 2-3 games easily. Maybe more.
But for some reason, since 2009, ESPN has desperately wanted Oregon to win an NC. I'm assuming there's some kind of big contract between Nike and ESPN. Has to be.
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Auburn wins out. Miss. State wins out to SECCG. 2 loss UGA wins east and beats MS State in SEC championship game. What happens then?
My guess is that the west doesn't make it. Thuga, FSU, Oregon or ND at one loss would go before a 2 loss SEC west team.
Quality loss bs is just that.
Like GF, Im worried about this committee. I really think its a lot to do with selecting teams from different regions in the end. A push for college football equality, if you will, to appease everyone outside of the Sec. The word is already out that conference championships matter. That speaks volumes.
I couldn't care less about tonight's shindig.
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My guess is that the west doesn't make it. Thuga, FSU, Oregon or ND at one loss would go before a 2 loss SEC west team.
That's the thing. MS State and Auburn would both only have one loss while the SEC champion UGA would have 2 losses.
My guess would be UGA and MS State go and Auburn gets left out.
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That's the thing. MS State and Auburn would both only have one loss while the SEC champion UGA would have 2 losses.
My guess would be UGA and MS State go and Auburn gets left out.
Have to take all 3, IMO, but that would be met with torches & pitchforks, so I guess the East Champion & the runner-up in the West. Lost later.
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Have to take all 3, IMO, but that would be met with torches & pitchforks, so I guess the East Champion & the runner-up in the West. Lost later.
It would also depend on the loss.
If UGA just blew the doors of of Miss State, then I imagine it would be AU.
However if it was neck and neck and UGA won by 3 on a last minute FG, I would suspect it would be State.
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That's the thing. MS State and Auburn would both only have one loss while the SEC champion UGA would have 2 losses.
My guess would be UGA and MS State go and Auburn gets left out.
MS State would be very late and right before selection, I think that hurts them more that our loss earlier.
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That's the thing. MS State and Auburn would both only have one loss while the SEC champion UGA would have 2 losses.
My guess would be UGA and MS State go and Auburn gets left out.
With someone ( I don't know who) circulating the story about conference champs taking a priority (or something like that) --that's the only thing that I think may put Thuga in and leave us or whoever is left in the west out.
The more I think about your scenario, I find it highly unlikely any 2 loss team other than a conference champ gets in. Moving to the SEC east or the Acc would greatly enhance our future chances.
We need at least 8 teams in the playoff.
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Here's a scenario:
Missouri's remaining schedule: Kentucky, @A&M, @Tennessee, Arkansas
All winnable games. Four shittastic opponents.
Auburn beats Ole Miss, Georgia and Alabama.
Alabama beats LSU and Miss State.
Ole Miss beats Miss State.
Missouri vs. Auburn - SEC Championship. Missouri wins.
Who does the SEC send? 1 loss Missouri and 2 loss Auburn, Alabama, Miss State, Georgia or Ole Miss?
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MS State would be very late and right before selection, I think that hurts them more that our loss earlier.
Agree with WT and GF with regard to the worry over confence champions getting some steam which is why Patterson hangs 82 on Texas Tech when 66 might have sufficed. Notre Dame gets similar respect I'm guessing, possibly a bit more but they need to win soundly.
When I made notice of Michigan State's loss at Oregon Chizad rightly called me out but at that point in the season I think there had to be a measuring stick to weigh others by and this was it.
So my earliest prediction was a three way tie in the SEC West between us, Turds and LSU with the winner playing USCe. WRONG!
Okay substitute State for LSU and Thuga for 'Cocks.
I still think we get a three way tie in the SEC West.
Alabama is the only west team the panel would consider among the final four w/o playing in the SECCG. All others will have to fight a prelim bout to get in.
FSU is in. If Notre Dame runs the table the Big 12 is in danger of being left out. If Michigan State wins out they benefit by any further bad showings by the SEC. Oregon must win out convincingly. None of the PAC 14 teams can hold up away from home.
Not very confident the SEC lands two and all involved would likely hope for UGA to prevail.
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Welp, I'm very happy with the first playoff poll.
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I'm pleased but realize that it doesn't mean anything other than publicity. Which is fine.
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Here's a scenario:
Missouri's remaining schedule: Kentucky, @A&M, @Tennessee, Arkansas
All winnable games. Four shittastic opponents.
Auburn beats Ole Miss, Georgia and Alabama.
Alabama beats LSU and Miss State.
Ole Miss beats Miss State.
Missouri vs. Auburn - SEC Championship. Missouri wins.
Who does the SEC send? 1 loss Missouri and 2 loss Auburn, Alabama, Miss State, Georgia or Ole Miss?
Missouri & Auburn.
Seems obvious to me in that scenario.
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Missouri & Auburn.
Seems obvious to me in that scenario.
I don't think a 2 loss team would make it over a 1 loss Oregon and MSU
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The only team in the east that will give the top teams in the west any trouble is Uga. That will be settled in Athens when Auburn beats them. I don't think MSU is going to lose a game and I believe Auburn will win out also. If the voting holds true, this will put MSU and Auburn in the playoffs.
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The only team in the east that will give the top teams in the west any trouble is Uga. That will be settled in Athens when Auburn beats them. I don't think MSU is going to lose a game and I believe Auburn will win out also. If the voting holds true, this will put MSU and Auburn in the playoffs.
Yeah and after seeing how the committee voted I no longer have to cheer for bammer against Miss State.
We win out looks like we are in.
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Yeah and after seeing how the committee voted I no longer have to cheer for bammer against Miss State.
We win out looks like we are in.
Simps dream scenario for Auburn in the playoffs:
Round 1 - Auburn beats FSU
Championship - Auburn beats MSU
This would give Auburn the golden toothpick and revenge for their two losses over the past two years.
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Simps dream scenario for Auburn in the playoffs:
Round 1 - Auburn beats FSU
Championship - Auburn beats MSU
This would give Auburn the golden toothpick and revenge for their two losses over the past two years.
What Spermboy said... This idea gets me giddy.
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What Spermboy said... This idea gets me giddy.
Spermboy loves making you giddy.
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Spermboy loves making you giddy.
:ruhroh:
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:ruhroh:
She might better grab a pee pee test from CVS on the way home. The power of simp is SCRONG.
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She might better grab a pee pee test from CVS on the way home. The power of simp is SCRONG.
Dammit. This means I have to have sex with the Corndog tonight... you know, so he will think it's his.
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Dammit. This means I have to have sex with the Corndog tonight... you know, so he will think it's his.
The gift that keeps on giving.
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I'll take Things Snaggle Probably Can't Produce for 200 Alex.
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I'll take Things Snaggle Probably Can't Produce for 200 Alex.
I'll take sharp objects that will cut a bitch for $1,000.00 Alex
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Dammit. This means I have to have sex with the Corndog tonight... you know, so he will think it's his.
We all know that no woman anywhere wants to have sex with anyone. And to titillate us with any thoughts otherwise is - is just bogus.
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We all know that no woman anywhere wants to have sex with anyone. And to titillate us with any thoughts otherwise is - is just bogus.
Speak for your own self Cousin Eddie... He may be a Corndog, but he's a happy Corndog... :gig:
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The only team in the east that will give the top teams in the west any trouble is Uga. That will be settled in Athens when Auburn beats them. I don't think MSU is going to lose a game and I believe Auburn will win out also. If the voting holds true, this will put MSU and Auburn in the playoffs.
One thing that concerns me is that it is really easy for the committee to rank teams with losses in the top 4 because there is less uproar and there haven't been any championship games. Let a 1 loss conference champion get left out and replaced by a 1 or 2 loss non champ from SE and hear the screams. I don't have a lot of confidence that they will stand up to the pressure.
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One thing that concerns me is that it is really easy for the committee to rank teams with losses in the top 4 because there is less uproar and there haven't been any championship games. Let a 1 loss conference champion get left out and replaced by a 1 or 2 loss non champ from SE and hear the screams. I don't have a lot of confidence that they will stand up to the pressure.
Meh. If you don't win your conference you don't have much of a leg to stand on. But considering how this inaugural rankings came out, obviously they think the SEC has the much stronger SOS.
If Oregon, Michigan State, Notre Dame, and one of the 1-loss Big XII schools end up winning out from here, they'll have a valid argument to be included over a 2nd SEC team, IMO. But if some of those stumble there shouldn't be much controversy with putting a 2 loss SEC non-champion team above a 2 loss Big Televen champion.
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Meh. If you don't win your conference you don't have much of a leg to stand on. But considering how this inaugural rankings came out, obviously they think the SEC has the much stronger SOS.
If Oregon, Michigan State, Notre Dame, and one of the 1-loss Big XII schools end up winning out from here, they'll have a valid argument to be included over a 2nd SEC team, IMO. But if some of those stumble there shouldn't be much controversy with putting a 2 loss SEC non-champion team above a 2 loss Big Televen champion.
They won't have a valid argument in my mind, assuming the SEC losses are close. I haven't looked at the SOS rankings in a while but regardless, I think the level of west SEC outshines the other conferences by so much that 2 close losses trumps a weak conference champ. It's definitely debatable, like your sexuality. But the committee will go with the conference champ, regardless.
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
You would have to figure UGA as the winner of the SECG. As it stands right now, meaning Oregon and MSU have one loss, FSU no losses. 4th team in with 2 losses would be SEC champion. Would be by guess.
But your scenario doesn't take into account how big the losses were.
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
That's pretty much the same scenario that was discussed. Georgia.
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The only other way I see a 2-loss SEC (Non Conference Champion going) is if any of the other teams lose another one.
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The only other way I see a 2-loss SEC (Non Conference Champion going) is if any of the other teams lose another one.
Agree. We're in the SEC Division playoffs right now. Just because we have 3 SEC teams RIGHT NOW doesn't mean we should have more than one at the end of the year, necessarily. Just means that winning in this SEC schedule means a lot and one SEC team (the champion) should be all but guaranteed a spot.
Now, if Oregon or Michigan State or Notre Dame lose again? Or maybe even if Florida State loses at all? Probably. I think an SEC champion is guaranteed, and next in line for a guarantee is the Big XII champion. After that, if the top teams in the other conferences start dropping multiple games, you'll probably see a second SEC team in their place. But honestly, that's the only reason you should see more than one SEC team, IMO.
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
And Kristy is the Bimbo
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And Kristy is the Bimbo
And Leon's getting larger
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And Leon's getting larger
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I know, I know. It just made me think of it.
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I know, I know. It just made me think of it.
You are an entirely different bimbo, altogether.
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
FSU
Oregon
Meeshigan St.
Auburn
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What if Kevin Harvick and Matt Kenseth finish 1-2 at Homestead but Gordon also gets a top 5 with Kessolowski finishing outside the top 10?
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What if Kevin Harvick and Matt Kenseth finish 1-2 at Homestead but Gordon also gets a top 5 with Kessolowski finishing outside the top 10?
Auburn
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I'll bet committee really, really hopes for State to win out and everyone else to have two losses. But if Bama and State wins out, book it. There will be little questioning Bama being in the playoff. If we win out and don't make the SEC, all hell breaks loose.
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I'll bet committee really, really hopes for State to win out and everyone else to have two losses. But if Bama and State wins out, book it. There will be little questioning Bama being in the playoff. If we win out and don't make the SEC, all hell breaks loose.
We cannot win out and be denied...we will likely have to beat Georgia twice.
In the history of college football could there be a tougher, more physical schedule?
Staying healthy enough to finish first would be an amazing feat in itself.
That's why the odds aren't as good for Auburn as for others.
Then we have to beat two additional opponents to win it all.
It would be absolutely incredible if our team was able to pull this off.
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We cannot win out and be denied...we will likely have to beat Georgia twice.
Good point that I knew but wasn't thinking about. An already incredibly difficult schedule borders on impossible. I still can't imagine us losing another one and getting in if there are 1 loss conference champs still sitting close to top 4.
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All this is a moot point now that UGA got skullfucked by the Gusty Gaytah.
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All this is a moot point now that UGA got skullfucked by the Gusty Gaytah.
Damnedest thing, Florida still has a slim shot at Atlanta, with vandy and usce left on their schedule. If uga loses to Auburn, Missouri would have to lose 2 of 3 versus aTm, UTk, and ark. That won't help the west team's strength of schedule, since mizzou lost to Indiana at home.
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Say Ole Miss wins out. Alabama beats Miss. St, but loses to Auburn. Auburn loses to Ole Miss and beats Georgia. Ole Miss goes to SECCg against UGA. UGA as a 2 loss team win the SEC CG. Who gets in the playoff?
Your scenario is wrong on so many levels just a couple of days after you posted. Much less in freaking 1 month and after 4 more football games.
Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride...
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Your scenario is wrong on so many levels just a couple of days after you posted. Much less in freaking 1 month and after 4 more football games.
Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride...
I'm completely relaxed.
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CAN'T YOU TELL!!!
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Your scenario is wrong on so many levels just a couple of days after you posted. Much less in freaking 1 month and after 4 more football games.
Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the ride...
Hey it's called a discussion forum. If you want blind homerism I suggest you go and take it to AUFamily.
Otherwise, feel free to discuss but stop with the thought police crap.
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Hey it's called a discussion forum. If you want blind homerism I suggest you go and take it to AUFamily.
Otherwise, feel free to discuss but stop with the thought police crap.
Your epidermis needs toughening. I suggest daily flogging.
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Your epidermis needs toughening. I suggest daily flogging.
what have you done for me labia?
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Your epidermis needs toughening. I suggest daily flogging.
Pot meet kettle.
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I'll bet committee really, really hopes for State to win out and everyone else to have two losses. But if Bama and State wins out, book it. There will be little questioning Bama being in the playoff. If we win out and don't make the SEC, all hell breaks loose.
uat and Mississippi State can't both win out...they play each other in two weeks.
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uat and Mississippi State can't both win out...they play each other in two weeks.
yes I should have said "or" instead of "and" but my point is that there wouldn't be as much gnashing of the teeth. In reality though, my thoughts were premature on this one. If we do win out, there isn't room for debate. We will obviously be in playoff and anyone who doesn't think deservedly is an moron.
First year since the formation of the SEC championship that I hope we don't make it to that game. That's the only thing about the playoffs that I don't like.
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yes I should have said "or" instead of "and" but my point is that there wouldn't be as much gnashing of the teeth. In reality though, my thoughts were premature on this one. If we do win out, there isn't room for debate. We will obviously be in playoff and anyone who doesn't think deservedly is an moron.
First year since the formation of the SEC championship that I hope we don't make it to that game. That's the only thing about the playoffs that I don't like.
I agree. Play in the SEC Championship Game against another Top 25 team, then play in the Elimination game against a Top 4 team the next week.
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I agree. Play in the SEC Championship Game against another Top 25 team, then play in the Elimination game against a Top 4 team the next week.
It wouldn't be the next week. Playoff doesn't start till January 1.
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Pot meet kettle.
You are a silly little bitch. Haha.
I'm fucking Teflon. No really. That's her stage name.
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You are a silly little bitch. Haha.
I'm fucking Teflon. No really. That's her stage name.
Okay that last line was funny. :thumsup: