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Title: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: djsimp on October 11, 2014, 01:38:11 PM
Well, as the first game is underway, Uga is whipping the shit outta Mizzou.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 02:13:45 PM
Mizz sucks, flipping between that and the local game here, OU vs T-sips.

Texas beating the shit out of Okie but losing on the scoreboard. Word around here was that Texas folks were looking to unload their tickets at cost or less.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 02:14:00 PM
Pretty boring game actually. The Chubb kid looks like a decent replacement for Gurley though.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: djsimp on October 11, 2014, 03:45:03 PM
Time for the big boy game. WDE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: oldautiger on October 11, 2014, 04:00:02 PM
FUCK,
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
yup
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:02:20 PM
Okay so we spotted them 7.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: oldautiger on October 11, 2014, 04:05:46 PM
FUCK, part 2
Just give /em the God damned game
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
what. the. fuck.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: oldautiger on October 11, 2014, 04:08:27 PM
All right now, run the damned ball for the rest of the fucking game
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:08:44 PM
Anytime they would like to settle down will be fine with me.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:15:28 PM
Anytime they would like to settle down will be fine with me.
Yeah we can still snap out of it, but we need to keep mixing it up and stop blowing coverages.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 04:15:34 PM
We look like shit, wonder if we can recover?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
If we can get a turnover or something positive on defense, it sure would help
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: oldautiger on October 11, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Our play calling looks like we have gone back to 2012
SHIT
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:20:28 PM
Our O-line should play better... fo sho
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
It's gonna take some forced turnovers to get us back in because they aren't going to back off. We have a tipped pass, a fumbled possession and two fuck-ups on defense.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 04:23:30 PM
We go down 21 it may be over already.  :facepalm:


Fuck: we could not tackle shit.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:26:31 PM
This is ugliness.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 04:30:27 PM
I'm taking a break, gonna watch something else.


Is Gene in Starkvegas? 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
We ain't dead yet. Need to close within ten somehow by half but we can get there if the D wakes up.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 11, 2014, 04:33:38 PM
I'm taking a break, gonna watch something else.


Is Gene in Starkvegas?

We used to be a run team. Always worked. NOT running it now has us in a 21-0 hole...fuck this.

I have grass to cut. I don't mind losing but I'll be damned if I like losing via suicide which is exactly what we are doing. If we played like THIS against any other team in conference but Vandy, it would be the same score. MSU's biggest notch in their belt so far is merely capitalizing.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:34:33 PM
I am going to throw up I think.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
Carlson even lined up wrong and kicked across his body.

We need a balance of both to beat them gang.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
This makes me fucking sick. MState looks like the team that's been here before. It should be the other way around damn it.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
Need a score here. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
This makes me fucking sick. MState looks like the team that's been here before. It should be the other way around damn it.
For a fact, we can still recover but we have to play three FULL quarters.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 04:56:52 PM
oh my lord, can we get a break or what?
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 05:01:57 PM
Them - 14 points off of turnovers

Us - 6 pathetic points off of turnovers
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
If we can hold them and get a score we are back in it. Have to stop Robinson though.
They might not throw too much themselves after that bad pick.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 05:05:34 PM
Our defense needs to tackle with a little more killing instinct
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:09:58 PM
Our defense needs to tackle with a little more killing instinct
I think you mean a head to head sacrifice on Wilson because I don't think it's a good idea with that runaway truck Robinson.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 05:12:43 PM
I mean wrapping up and taking them down instead of hugging and whispering in their ear
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
I mean wrapping up and taking them down instead of hugging and whispering in their ear
Understood.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
They are gift wrapping this if we want it.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:16:49 PM
Coich my psyche has a bad hammy!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 05:19:13 PM
looks like the team is settling down now.  One more turnover please...
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Momentum...we gots it!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:21:02 PM
Need a defensive stop to bring State down to earth.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 05:29:56 PM
Unbelievable. Right up the middle untouched.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
fucky mcfuckerson
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 05:37:32 PM
Like first half of LSU last year kids.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 05:40:13 PM
I don't know if this rain will help us or not. The way things have been going, I wouldn't count on it.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: djsimp on October 11, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
This is not good. Down by 15 with one half to go. Auburn HAS to score a TD on the first drive in the 2nd half and stop MSU on their first if AU is going to come out with a win.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
I don't know if this rain will help us or not. The way things have been going, I wouldn't count on it.
There is as much concern for defensive stops as there is play calling.at this point. We have the guy that can win it if we can just stop them a few times, maybe hold them to ten. Johnson has shown he can do it before and if he can do it again I like our chances.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: bgreene on October 11, 2014, 06:00:52 PM


FUCK!!!!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:02:16 PM
I think we let Marshall run it some more and throw in some wrinkles. Instead of throwing in the middle, we need some more medium/short range passes.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
This is not good. Down by 15 with one half to go. Auburn HAS to score a TD on the first drive in the 2nd half and stop MSU on their first if AU is going to come out with a win.
Yep! If we give them another, it'll be the final curtain on this one.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
I think we let Marshall run it some more and throw in some wrinkles. Instead of throwing in the middle, we need some more medium/short range passes.
I like throwing to CAP and doing what we are doing with the pass/run option to get back in it . And defense has to play it's very best.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:08:05 PM
Ticky tack!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:08:44 PM
Thats a bullshit call
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:10:03 PM
The worst call I've seen this year.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:16:45 PM
The worst call I've seen this year.
Not the kind of call you pull your team off of the field for but enough to take a huge fine and stay on that motherfucker until the game ends. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:20:37 PM
That is one of those calls where the ref will probably get a call from the office.  I hope they are in his ear all game.  Still pissed about it.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:25:13 PM
We can win this if the defense stops them a few times on  back to back possessions.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:27:50 PM
THERE!
C'mon Johnson.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:28:05 PM
99 & 1/2 yard drive! BOOM!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
I've got victory t-bones and I fully expect to celebrate.
Fuck MSU's fairy tale!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:33:38 PM
Good D!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
Good D!
That's right...we are going to beat these guys if we keep up with the stops.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
I've got Nick fuckin' Marshall!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:40:29 PM
Whats wrong with running it up the middle???
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:41:59 PM
Come on, Gus!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
Official down. Too bad it wasn't that side judge.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:47:53 PM
if they are going to throw it every fucking play, they should put in Johnson. Fuck.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:49:38 PM
I let Nick keep it until the fuckers stopi him.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 06:50:03 PM
if they are going to throw it every fucking play, they should put in Johnson. Fuck.


RUN THE FUCKING BALL.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
Another blown series. Come on, Gus, quit fucking around. We need to take advantage of these opportunities.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 06:50:34 PM
I know we've got some tall receivers, but damn it Nick they're not that fucking tall.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
Its frustrating because they seem to be having success running it up the middle. We have about 3 different runners that can rotate in and out to wear their ass out.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
I know we've got some tall receivers, but damn it Nick they're not that fucking tall.
Wet ball contributes to that.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 06:54:38 PM
Must hold to a FG to have a chance to win.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
Wet ball contributes to that.

Does that also contribute to poor tackling and being out coached? 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 07:00:30 PM
Does that also contribute to poor tackling and being out coached?
Why hell no but we have what we have ...had and we take the good with the bad.
We can still win this.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 07:03:41 PM
Still... hold to a FG for chance.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:04:15 PM
This is bullshit.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
Watch out for the pass interference call on the kickoff against Auburn....
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 07:06:02 PM
Now we rip their fucking heart out.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
I'm glad we are licking the peanut butter off of the dogs balls today. This is a god damn clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:07:32 PM
This is bullshit.


Maybe the SEC office thought this year should be a Mississippi school.

I would donate to the Gus fund if in his post game interview he said what a PISS POOR job the officials did this game.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:09:28 PM
Does that also contribute to poor tackling and being out coached?


What the FUCK was Ricardo doing returning the kick?
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:09:59 PM
That'll just about do it, I believe.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 07:10:53 PM
Yep we done now.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 07:12:24 PM
Mother Fucker
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
I say we'll drop to about 12th.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Better to lose early I suppose.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: oldautiger on October 11, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
These absolutely fucked up refs refuse to call almost 3 or 4 holding on on every damn offensive play by the bullturds.  They are going to be fucked up when bammer plays these bullturds. 
Fuck em
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 07:16:25 PM
Okay brace yourself as we fall to tenth or worse in the AP.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 07:17:03 PM
I'm just glad Gus had our boys focused and ready to play today.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
That'll just about do it, I believe.

Heading out to dinner, many things contributed but having Ricardo on kickoff return was about the stupidest thing I saw us do today. Having Nick throw when it was raining and he could not hit the broad side of a barn goes to number 2. Duke bailed him out on a couple of catches.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 07:21:15 PM
Now we start running...
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
I'm just glad Gus had our boys focused and ready to play today.

I feel they were ready to play, the play calling was suspect at best.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
That would have been PI on us.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
Now we start running...


Just in time.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
Woo Hoo we got a field goal!!!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
Woo Hoo we got a field goal!!!


Watching turds-pigs. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 07:25:44 PM
I feel they were ready to play, the play calling was suspect at best.

Early turnovers and offense out of sync = not focused
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 11, 2014, 07:29:36 PM
Early turnovers and offense out of sync = not focused

Can understand, instead of coming out throwing, establish the run which opens up play action.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 11, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
Can understand, instead of coming out throwing, establish the run which opens up play action.

Exactly
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:38:18 PM
Damn what a play!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
Nighty night.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: bgreene on October 11, 2014, 08:02:30 PM
FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

Now that I have that out of my system. What is going to have to happen for us to at least get to the SEC?
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 11, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

Now that I have that out of my system. What is going to have to happen for us to at least get to the SEC?
State won't lose more than 1. Not happening.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
You bitches not starting an official game thread lost us that game.


BITCHES!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 11, 2014, 09:13:37 PM
State won't lose more than 1. Not happening.
Snhould we win the rest, we have to depend on State to lose two which would almost have to be Alabama and Ole Miss, two teams we can beat. Other than that we have little chance to return to Atlanta. State's a very good team that jumped us early and they finished us off. Hats off to Mullen and his boys...they showed up and earned it.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Come Honor Face on October 11, 2014, 09:16:40 PM
I don't know why, but for some reason I think Kentucky might give them an upset. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 11, 2014, 09:49:22 PM
You can't spot a team like that 14. It surprised me that we actually had a chance after the 1st.

I will take a loss to them if we can win out. If we get left out of the playoff with our schedule and 1 loss, it will be a travesty, yet wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: The Six on October 11, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
You bitches not starting an official game thread lost us that game.


BITCHES!

I blame myself for letting GF and Kaos take the weekly hottie thread back.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 11:16:10 PM
The corndogs just pulled Boom's heart out of his chest.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Tiger Wench on October 11, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
I had an informal job interview (as the interviewee) yesterday and did not wear an Auburn shirt for the first time all season.

My bad. This one is on me.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 11:24:45 PM
Anthony Jennings' oratory skills are equal, at best, to that of Nick Marshall.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 11, 2014, 11:52:23 PM
The Rebel Black Acbars are looking very stout out in College Station. I expected a bit of a letdown after beating the gumps, but they are putting one hell of a beatdown on the aggies.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on October 12, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
The Rebel Black Acbars are looking very stout out in College Station. I expected a bit of a letdown after beating the gumps, but they are putting one hell of a beatdown on the aggies.
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I guess Kenny football will have to wait for next year to get his heisman
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Kaos on October 12, 2014, 02:59:51 AM
Where in the fuck did all this Mississippi state swag come from? Lived here eight fucking years and have maybe seen one or two MSU items.  Lots of southern miss but practically zero State. 

Tonight in Target?  Six different motherfuckers wearing state hats or shirts.  Every last one wanted to tell me we played them tough but Mullen is a hell of a coach. 

I finally asked the last one where the hell he had been for the last 15 years because be damned if I'd see on or heard a state fan in at least that long.  Bitch puffed up and said he had been a bulldog for life.  So I said bandwagon bulldog. And he said ran that bandwagon over y'all's chiieating ass.

And I decided to leave target.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2014, 06:02:38 AM
I think Danielson was right saying we are more of a finesse team on offense this season. Doesn't mean we can't revert back to a more power running team it's just a choice that was made out of necessity.

The motion with guards pulling were not effective against Kansas State and I tend to think we all but cut it out of the playbook. Losing Kozan didn't help and the H-back blocking has been inconsistent. Doesn't allow us to get wide but once or twice a game now when it used to get good chunks of yards more frequently.

I'm hoping CAP is okay and Roc was only brought in to see if he could pop a long run, not that Grant couldn't do the same as well. Marshall has to navigate more defenders at the edges on the option whereas he had more open field last season too.

So we seem committed to take more shots downfield having Duke and Sammy. And if you want to keep that kind of talent at Auburn you have to display it. Still before yesterday we were averaging a meager 19 pass attempts per game so what we got was mainly out of desperation.
And I don't think Johnson is the best option for the cohesiveness of the team unless you are intent on throwing 30+ times per game.

So we ran off the road and fell behind early which was largely on the defense. But we seemed to recover a bit with some timely picks, got a bad call, fumbled and got stuck in the ditch again. Not the end of the world. Just got a lot tougher having to depend on the opinions of others instead of proving it unblemished. 
 

 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: The Prowler on October 12, 2014, 07:14:07 AM
One thing is evident, so far...we're not a HUNH offense. We're a get to the line of scrimmage, look over the defense, get the offensive play call in, then make sure everyone knows the correct play, then snap it with less than 5 seconds on the play clock....or we get to the line and do the dive play right into the backs of our offensive linemen, averaging about a yard on the first down play. Second down play will net about 3 yards on avg...then we call the Hail Mary bomb to Coates or Duke on 3rd & 6.

I've said since the KSU game that we apparently don't have a mid range passing game on third down, either that or Marshall just keeps throwing the damn long ball...either way it usually results in a punt, unless Sammie or Duke makes a Sports Center type catch. We really do miss Prosch more than I thought we would...Also, we're not getting a surge from the OL at all, that may be because the DLs that we've faced have been very strong or our OL just aren't that strong, IDK.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2014, 08:37:07 AM
Yeah we aren't a smashmouth team nor are we trying to run 80 plays per game...and I hate it, especially since we have a pretty good run defense. We got suckered in the red zone by not having a safety at the goal line on several of Prescott's carries. And we still haven't figured out that we cannot mug a receiver while the ball is in flight.

This is the team that we thought would trouble us the most. But like you, I want an intermediate pass game or better yet, a quick game that also utilizes our backs more. We saw that against LSU but very little yesterday.

Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 12, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
Yeah we aren't a smashmouth team nor are we trying to run 80 plays per game...and I hate it, especially since we have a pretty good run defense. We got suckered in the red zone by not having a safety at the goal line on several of Prescott's carries. And we still haven't figured out that we cannot mug a receiver while the ball is in flight.

This is the team that we thought would trouble us the most. But like you, I want an intermediate pass game or better yet, a quick game that also utilizes our backs more. We saw that against LSU but very little yesterday.

We would have been down 14-0 to almost any other team in the west in the 1st quarter....all self inflicted. MSU merely capitalized on our own bad play. And it was too much to overcome on the road in the rain.

Check out the stats....nearly even aside from TO's. And prowler is right - we look nothing like a HUNH or a true zone read O. It looked similar to fun n gun circa Spurrier in the 90s. Except Marshall cannot connect those passes.

If we are going to go vertical like that with the big bombs, then I may start having to agree with CCT on JJ.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2014, 09:52:57 AM
We would have been down 14-0 to almost any other team in the west in the 1st quarter....all self inflicted. MSU merely capitalized on our own bad play. And it was too much to overcome on the road in the rain.

Check out the stats....nearly even aside from TO's. And prowler is right - we look nothing like a HUNH or a true zone read O. It looked similar to fun n gun circa Spurrier in the 90s. Except Marshall cannot connect those passes.

If we are going to go vertical like that with the big bombs, then I may start having to agree with CCT on JJ.
Oh I agree but it won't happen, not with playmaker Marshall and the mindset that we can win any close game. How about learning to play with the lead and actually finishing?
I too enjoy watching JJ at QB but aren't we supposed to stick with the company line, "In Gus We trust?"
I don't doubt he has his fingers on the pulse of the offense but it's kind of tiresome watching us fight while on our backs instead of toeing up and hammering away from start to finish.




Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 12, 2014, 11:52:56 AM
JMO, but it looks like Nick runs scared. I don't expect him to plow over people, but on the read sweep if he keeps the ball he heads out of bounds if a defender gets the in the area. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2014, 01:03:26 PM
JMO, but it looks like Nick runs scared. I don't expect him to plow over people, but on the read sweep if he keeps the ball he heads out of bounds if a defender gets the in the area.
He always falls forward, can buy more time than most anybody but he sometimes gets ridden down by as many as three and yes he might angle more so toward the boundary though I don't think it's out of fear. The truly fast know to hit the sidelines where defenders are more likely to miss.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 12, 2014, 02:23:55 PM
JMO, but it looks like Nick runs scared. I don't expect him to plow over people, but on the read sweep if he keeps the ball he heads out of bounds if a defender gets the in the area.

You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2014, 05:53:20 PM
You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!
I will only disagree because we don't know Marshall's heart as a competitor or what Lashlee has instructed as far as contact is concerned. Slower less nimble pocket passers are generally taught to slide rather than take on a linebacker but I could see a proponent for JJ wanting Nick to bow-up on just about everybody which is inadvisable if not totally stupid.   
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 12, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
Oh I agree but it won't happen, not with playmaker Marshall and the mindset that we can win any close game. How about learning to play with the lead and actually finishing?
I too enjoy watching JJ at QB but aren't we supposed to stick with the company line, "In Gus We trust?"
I don't doubt he has his fingers on the pulse of the offense but it's kind of tiresome watching us fight while on our backs instead of toeing up and hammering away from start to finish.

If we are going to have our Offensive identity be what it was last year (zone read), then sure Marshall is fine. And up until now I thought that was the direction we were going. Shit worked like clockwork last week. Why were we going so vertical in the rain? 3rd and 4 throwing bombs. Or on the flip side 3rd and 22 and running a draw. IF...big IF....IF we are going to do the vertical shit so much it just makes more sense to let JJ have at it (circa first half against Arky). I understand he may be wanting to stick with his guy NM, but passing long just isn't his strong suit. Especially in the friggin rain.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 12, 2014, 08:32:30 PM
You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!

He does.

He also doesn't have a body like Cam that can take those licks. So I get it but shit, this is football. The pussy footing out of bounds instead of turning it upfield was annoying to say the least.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 12, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
He does.

He also doesn't have a body like Cam that can take those licks. So I get it but shit, this is football. The pussy footing out of bounds instead of turning it upfield was annoying to say the least.

I understand sometimes, but when we need two yards for a first and he casually jogs out of bounds on a third down , it just looks bad.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: The Prowler on October 13, 2014, 08:45:12 AM
I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 13, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
Johnson's the better passing quarterback.  But Gus is also considered one of if not the most brilliant mind in college football today.  He thinks Marshall gives us the best chance to win.

I have to think a big part of it is our inability to run the ball up the middle.  CAP just isn't doing what Mason did nor is Fulse doing what Prosch did nor is Coleman doing what Robinson did.  We also are missing Kozan big time. 

When you can't run up the middle, you have to try to run outside.  Marshall gives us the advantage on the edge.

When you can't run the ball, you have to throw downfield.  We don't know how Johnson would do under serious pressure, and I don't think trying him out in a #2 vs. #3 situation would be a good way to find out.  We know what we can accomplish with Marshall. 

Marshall is more of a sure thing right now.  Johnson could be Tom Brady, but how many other backups came in for an injured starter only to suck it up?
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 13, 2014, 09:45:45 AM
With the lack of red zone production, I hope Gus will start putting JJ in when we get there. I think he's the answer to those woes.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: djsimp on October 13, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Not saying Pat Miller is not a good player but I saw him in the game and there were a couple times he looked really confused.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 13, 2014, 11:18:33 AM
I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).

This might be post of the year.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 13, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
I have a question....What happened to Roc and better yet the rest of our running backs.  Babar and Grant?

Grant was in a handful of times, Roc was making things happen and then disappeared.  I like CAP but he isn't our only option. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 13, 2014, 11:32:12 AM
This might be post of the year.
But, I think that it's worth pointing out that there are mostly shitty posts so far this year, so in reality, this means it's less shitty than most. And even then, I think that it's debatable.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 13, 2014, 11:49:17 AM
Not saying Pat Miller is not a good player but I saw him in the game and there were a couple times he looked really confused.
I'll say it, Pat Miller shouldn't be starting.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 13, 2014, 12:38:10 PM
I have a question....What happened to Roc and better yet the rest of our running backs.  Babar and Grant?

Grant was in a handful of times, Roc was making things happen and then disappeared.  I like CAP but he isn't our only option.

Roc showed his raw talent, but he was careless with the ball.  Running backs can't just go balls-out when running into an SEC defensive back seven.  Fumbles will happen.  They have to use vision and patience before hitting the emerging hole.

He was in on a few more plays.  I think he got one carry in the 2nd half that went for a very short gain.  I'm excited about his future, but I about puked when he was doing that crazy shit with the ball away from his body.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 13, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Roc showed his raw talent, but he was careless with the ball.  Running backs can't just go balls-out when running into an SEC defensive back seven.  Fumbles will happen.  They have to use vision and patience before hitting the emerging hole.

He was in on a few more plays.  I think he got one carry in the 2nd half that went for a very short gain.  I'm excited about his future, but I about puked when he was doing that crazy shit with the ball away from his body.
Boy likes him some (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130805022357/neptunia/images/b/b5/Ps3_circle_button.png) or (http://castlewiki.castlecrashers.com/images/f/f3/Xbox360_Button_B.png) (for Uncle Sani)
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 13, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
I understand sometimes, but when we need two yards for a first and he casually jogs out of bounds on a third down , it just looks bad.
I think that a lot of it has to do with being coached to not take the hit as a QB and the risk/reward factor. If it's for the SEC champ or in the playoffs, it's different. Football has changed a lot since most of you played....the tuba.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 13, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
I think that a lot of it has to do with being coached to not take the hit as a QB and the risk/reward factor. If it's for the SEC champ or in the playoffs, it's different. Football has changed a lot since most of you played....the tuba.


If we don't win the first ones we don't get to the second ones.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 13, 2014, 07:13:08 PM

If we don't win the first ones we don't get to the second ones.

I chortled at his dumbassery too.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 13, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).

This is not a mystery. It's called height!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
We now run an up tempo read option only it isn't very up tempo and the read portion seems more pre-determined. Absent is the smashmouth version of the HUNH with far more pulling guards and the ever present motion that often presented problems for the opposition. And now we are predictable.

JMO but I think since the end of last season Malzahn expected the defense to be far better-which it had been up until the early hole we dug for ourselves this past Saturday in Starkville. check
*Garrett returning, Reed moves to CB, Lawson has surgery before fall camp, Whitehead suspended indefinitely.

Lashlee worked with Marshall's footwork in the off season to improve the QB's accuracy. check
*Duke Williams came on board to pair with Sammy Coates. check
*Look at Duke, what a talent! Coates now playing through knee injury.

We lost Prosch and Robinson and didn't have a like replacement in line for either. check
*Troubled H-Back/TE Parks booted, reserve FB Batten knee injury, starting guard Kozan knee injury.
*The quality depth of the offensive line remains suspect as witnessed by the lack of substitutions.

I think Gus committed to more of a finesse type spread thinking we could pull it off with the expectations of improvement by the defense, a better passing game with the possibility that the same hardnosed mentality would still exist with our run game...which it hasn't. In fact we seem to continually put ourselves behind the chains with incompletions, mental errors, dropped/batted balls, missed blocks, penalties and odd play calls. We seem to lack that flow we once had although statistics seem to indicate otherwise. Whatever it is, it's very frustrating to watch. 

Understand maybe streamlining to a more simplified attack-after all, the team that beat us in the BCSCG ran something similar to what we have now with success and they didn't have a running threat at QB like Auburn. Not saying Johnson isn't my preferred choice at this point, only that Nick is this team's QB.


 

 

 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: wesfau2 on October 14, 2014, 08:42:29 AM
We now run an up tempo read option only it isn't very up tempo and the read portion seems more pre-determined. Absent is the smashmouth version of the HUNH with far more pulling guards and the ever present motion that often presented problems for the opposition. And now we are predictable.

JMO but I think since the end of last season Malzahn expected the defense to be far better-which it had been up until the early hole we dug for ourselves this past Saturday in Starkville. check
*Garrett returning, Reed moves to CB, Lawson has surgery before fall camp, Whitehead suspended indefinitely.

Lashlee worked with Marshall's footwork in the off season to improve the QB's accuracy. check
*Duke Williams came on board to pair with Sammy Coates. check
*Look at Duke, what a talent! Coates now playing through knee injury.

We lost Prosch and Robinson and didn't have a like replacement in line for either. check
*Troubled H-Back/TE Parks booted, reserve FB Batten knee injury, starting guard Kozan knee injury.
*The quality depth of the offensive line remains suspect as witnessed by the lack of substitutions.

I think Gus committed to more of a finesse type spread thinking we could pull it off with the expectations of improvement by the defense, a better passing game with the possibility that the same hardnosed mentality would still exist with our run game...which it hasn't. In fact we seem to continually put ourselves behind the chains with incompletions, mental errors, dropped/batted balls, missed blocks, penalties and odd play calls. We seem to lack that flow we once had although statistics seem to indicate otherwise. Whatever it is, it's very frustrating to watch. 

Understand maybe streamlining to a more simplified attack-after all, the team that beat us in the BCSCG ran something similar to what we have now with success and they didn't have a running threat at QB like Auburn. Not saying Johnson isn't my preferred choice at this point, only that Nick is this team's QB.



If your whole premise begins with it being the defense's fault, then you're way off base.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 14, 2014, 08:47:08 AM
If your whole premise begins with it being the defense's fault, then you're way off base.

Not that I blame you for this, but I don't think you understood his post. 

I think he was saying Gus expected the defense to be better, which it has (hence the "check").  But Gus also expected the offense to be less run-based and more finesse with the addition of players like Duke Williams and with the improvement of Marshall's passing game, which also received a "check." 

But the reason why we struggled is because we've lost the power running game that kickstarts the offense and controls the clock.  Further, we're making too many mental errors throughout games making it difficult to showcase how much we've improved. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Saniflush on October 14, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Further, we're making too many mental errors throughout games making it difficult to showcase how much we've improved.

This is all of it in a nutshell.  Execution is paramount!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: wesfau2 on October 14, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
Not that I blame you for this, but I don't think you understood his post. 


This thing reads like stereo instructions.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Saniflush on October 14, 2014, 10:16:21 AM

This thing reads like stereo instructions.


I'm feeling a little, ooh, anxious if you know what I mean. It's been about six hundred years after all. I wonder where a guy, an everyday Joe like myself, can find a little, "action".
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: wesfau2 on October 14, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
I'm feeling a little, ooh, anxious if you know what I mean. It's been about six hundred years after all. I wonder where a guy, an everyday Joe like myself, can find a little, "action".

You've been to Mars?
I've been to Mars!

Whoa...sand worms.  You hate 'em right? 
I hate 'em, too!

I tell ya, pal, we're sympatico here!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 14, 2014, 10:26:44 AM
Not that I blame you for this, but I don't think you understood his post. 

I think he was saying Gus expected the defense to be better, which it has (hence the "check").  But Gus also expected the offense to be less run-based and more finesse with the addition of players like Duke Williams and with the improvement of Marshall's passing game, which also received a "check." 

But the reason why we struggled is because we've lost the power running game that kickstarts the offense and controls the clock.  Further, we're making too many mental errors throughout games making it difficult to showcase how much we've improved.

I really really think losing Kozan and Prosch has everything to do with why.

I think jmar also hit on something with lack of pulling guards. I'm starting to think Gus knows the limitations of this OL right now. Thus the more finesse look. Against LSU or a weaker team we can get away with zone read more and control the LOS. Against a very sound and physical front like MSU, our OL can't control the LOS as well. It makes sense a little more now. Still not sure why we wouldnt use JJ though SOME on some passing series.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 10:36:20 AM
Not that I blame you for this, but I don't think you understood his post. 

I think he was saying Gus expected the defense to be better, which it has (hence the "check").  But Gus also expected the offense to be less run-based and more finesse with the addition of players like Duke Williams and with the improvement of Marshall's passing game, which also received a "check." 

But the reason why we struggled is because we've lost the power running game that kickstarts the offense and controls the clock.  Further, we're making too many mental errors throughout games making it difficult to showcase how much we've improved.
Yes and thanks for the clarification. Been up all night.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 14, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
I think the offense is fine for the most part. Obviously shot themselves in the foot early on and made a couple of other crucial "mistakes" in Sammie stepping out and the phantom offensive pass interference.  The biggest problem to me was the performance, or lack thereof, in the red zone.  We couldn't punch it in and settling for FG's never allowed us to put pressure on them.  We stayed 2-3 scores down all day. 

As far as the offense is concerned, I'd just like to see them tweak or maybe add a couple of things.  Hard to fault Artimus Pyle when he's averaging 110 yards a game.  Just think a few more carries for Roc would be good.  He's hits the hole quick like djsimp and looks to be more of a threat to break out in the open.  Plus, it'd loosen things up if they could get Uzoamababa the ball more on short stuff.  He's averaging 1 catch a game.   
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 14, 2014, 11:03:16 AM

You've been to Mars?
I've been to Mars!

Whoa...sand worms.  You hate 'em right? 
I hate 'em, too!

I tell ya, pal, we're sympatico here!

Saniflush....Saniflush....Saniflush
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 14, 2014, 11:04:24 AM
We now run an up tempo read option only it isn't very up tempo and the read portion seems more pre-determined. 

Nothing else that you wrote mattered. If this offense will truly run as a reap option offense, NM's legs will cover up a lot of those issues. When he runs, we win. Period.

The option is not being read this season like it was last season.

If you can look at last seasons running plays and tell me the majority of those plays were pre determined, then you(not you personally) have no idea what an option looks like.

The option is run to help overcome some of the deficiencies listed. If it is not being utilized, let JJ hand off. at least he can see over the line, make the middle throws, and keep the LBs on their heels so we can run up the middle.

I love last year's NM. this year's NM seems to be benign in comparison from a read option standpoint.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 14, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I think the offense is fine for the most part. Obviously shot themselves in the foot early on and made a couple of other crucial "mistakes" in Sammie stepping out and the phantom offensive pass interference.  The biggest problem to me was the performance, or lack thereof, in the red zone.  We couldn't punch it in and settling for FG's never allowed us to put pressure on them.  We stayed 2-3 scores down all day. 


We run the ball down the field and then throw the ball 3 times.  Sometimes we are too cute for our own good.

Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
I really really think losing Kozan and Prosch has everything to do with why.

I think jmar also hit on something with lack of pulling guards. I'm starting to think Gus knows the limitations of this OL right now. Thus the more finesse look. Against LSU or a weaker team we can get away with zone read more and control the LOS. Against a very sound and physical front like MSU, our OL can't control the LOS as well. It makes sense a little more now. Still not sure why we wouldnt use JJ though SOME on some passing series.
I'm for putting JJ in for several series myself. We can't know that he wouldn't have been hurried or sacked like Nick (13 and 3) unless we see him moving in the pocket against a good defense. But we have seen JJ make his progressions and throw underneath when nothing was there rather than force it deep as Nick has. Team might play a little sharper and make fewer mistakes.
Never stopped us from running that miserable wildcat. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 14, 2014, 11:10:41 AM
I'm for putting JJ in for several series myself. We can't know that he wouldn't have been hurried or sacked like Nick (13 and 3) unless we see him moving in the pocket against a good defense. But we have seen JJ make his progressions and throw underneath when nothing was there rather than force it deep as Nick has. Team might play a little sharper and make fewer mistakes.
Never stopped us from running that miserable wildcat.

I think that is all any of us want. I'm not sure I want to see JJ start and try to carry the team. But just let him come in and see if that changes the complexion of the game. If that becomes a successful option, then team have to get ready for two different style QBs.  Its hard enough to game plan for one.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 11:22:00 AM
We now run an up tempo read option only it isn't very up tempo and the read portion seems more pre-determined. Absent is the smashmouth version of the HUNH with far more pulling guards and the ever present motion that often presented problems for the opposition. And now we are predictable.

JMO but I think since the end of last season Malzahn expected the defense to be far better-which it had been up until the early hole we dug for ourselves this past Saturday in Starkville. check
*Garrett returning, Reed moves to CB, Lawson has surgery before fall camp, Whitehead suspended indefinitely.

Lashlee worked with Marshall's footwork in the off season to improve the QB's accuracy. check
*Duke Williams came on board to pair with Sammy Coates. check
*Look at Duke, what a talent! Coates now playing through knee injury.

We lost Prosch and Robinson and didn't have a like replacement in line for either. check
*Troubled H-Back/TE Parks booted, reserve FB Batten knee injury, starting guard Kozan knee injury.
*The quality depth of the offensive line remains suspect as witnessed by the lack of substitutions.

I think Gus committed to more of a finesse type spread thinking we could pull it off with the expectations of improvement by the defense, a better passing game with the possibility that the same hardnosed mentality would still exist with our run game...which it hasn't. In fact we seem to continually put ourselves behind the chains with incompletions, mental errors, dropped/batted balls, missed blocks, penalties and odd play calls. We seem to lack that flow we once had although statistics seem to indicate otherwise. Whatever it is, it's very frustrating to watch. 

Understand maybe streamlining to a more simplified attack-after all, the team that beat us in the BCSCG ran something similar to what we have now with success and they didn't have a running threat at QB like Auburn. Not saying Johnson isn't my preferred choice at this point, only that Nick is this team's QB.
One thing that I would add to this is O line play. I think we all thought that we would automatically get better with so many returning, rather than regress. Regardless of the reasons, we aren't getting the push we had last year. This has been a bigger surprise to me than all of the above.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 12:03:22 PM
Nothing else that you wrote mattered. If this offense will truly run as a reap option offense, NM's legs will cover up a lot of those issues. When he runs, we win. Period.

The option is not being read this season like it was last season.

If you can look at last seasons running plays and tell me the majority of those plays were pre determined, then you(not you personally) have no idea what an option looks like.

The option is run to help overcome some of the deficiencies listed. If it is not being utilized, let JJ hand off. at least he can see over the line, make the middle throws, and keep the LBs on their heels so we can run up the middle.

I love last year's NM. this year's NM seems to be benign in comparison from a read option standpoint.
I personally understand the reads because we ran the veer which the read was off the end  (5-2 defenses being prevalent then) wishbone read was generally the tackle.
NM is failing at the meshpoint but there are only two choices (we had a pitch man following) Mine would often run to the post office when I needed him.

Nick is pussy footing and not turning it on like he did last season.
But the seal blocks that yielded the longer runs aren't there either.
Duke blocks when Duke wants to block and Louis just pisses me off.
Grant needs one real block to get to the finish line and can't get it. He's a fucking bullet. No excuse for this guy not making a D shit its pants at least once every game. 

Anyway I think JJ would utilize all of the receivers that work to get open and find them whereas Nick buys time, routes are broken off to where he can see a guy running deep but not much else. In the pocket he has no clue as to what is happening on the few sideline routes and shallow crosses we do run. And even if we ran those more he would trust his arm but wouldn't spot a converging safety.
 


   
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 14, 2014, 12:16:55 PM
I personally understand the reads because we ran the veer which the read was off the end  (5-2 defenses being prevalent then) wishbone read was generally the tackle.
NM is failing at the meshpoint but there are only two choices (we had a pitch man following) Mine would often run to the post office when I needed him.

Nick is pussy footing and not turning it on like he did last season.
But the seal blocks that yielded the longer runs aren't there either.
Duke blocks when Duke wants to block and Louis just pisses me off.
Grant needs one real block to get to the finish line and can't get it. He's a fucking bullet. No excuse for this guy not making a D shit its pants at least once every game. 

Anyway I think JJ would utilize all of the receivers that work to get open and find them whereas Nick buys time, routes are broken off to where he can see a guy running deep but not much else. In the pocket he has no clue as to what is happening on the few sideline routes and shallow crosses we do run. And even if we ran those more he would trust his arm but wouldn't spot a converging safety.
 
 


Not just you. He Jake Holland on offense. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Anyway I think JJ would utilize all of the receivers that work to get open and find them whereas Nick buys time, routes are broken off to where he can see a guy running deep but not much else. In the pocket he has no clue as to what is happening on the few sideline routes and shallow crosses we do run. And even if we ran those more he would trust his arm but wouldn't spot a converging safety. 
I wonder about his ability to see the field. I wish he would get out of the pocket more and ad lib. We seen to be better with that and don't have the trouble with batted balls.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 14, 2014, 12:44:50 PM
Where is the quick out route we used to run? Throw it a couple of times and then fake it and run deep.

We killed people with that in 09 and 10. And NM definitely has  the arm to throw it.

I would much rather wee that than the 42 WR screens we throw.

Duke on the out route for 5 yds would drive a defense crazy.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
Where is the quick out route we used to run? Throw it a couple of times and then fake it and run deep.

We killed people with that in 09 and 10. And NM definitely has  the arm to throw it.

I would much rather wee that than the 42 WR screens we throw.

Duke on the out route for 5 yds would drive a defense crazy.
I bet you like to wee a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 14, 2014, 01:01:37 PM
I bet you like to wee a lot of stuff.

See dammit. See!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: ssgaufan on October 14, 2014, 01:47:28 PM
I wonder about his ability to see over the lineman. I wish he would get out of the pocket more and ad lib. We seen to be better with that and don't have the trouble with batted balls.

I've been thinking that this might be his problem, and the reason JJ spread it around more.  I can't remember seeing this many balls batted at the LOS from an AU QB.  Looks like the underneath routes are still there on 3rd and medium, Nick just can't see them, so he goes for the homerun ball each time.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
See dammit. See!
We are just one missed tackle away on the perimeter but we seldom challenge the defense enough to know.
I do know Marcus Davis can get open and the one time we threw to Tony Stevens (LSU) he broke two tackles and looked like he was going to run out of the stadium. But those are called plays, not reads.
We can play Montraviousness at WR and if the ball doesn't go his way immediately the defense knows Marshall is either going to run or hurl it fifty/sixty yards downfield.

Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 01:52:47 PM
I've been thinking that this might be his problem, and the reason JJ spread it around more.  I can't remember seeing this many balls batted at the LOS from an AU QB.  Looks like the underneath routes are still there on 3rd and medium, Nick just can't see them, so he goes for the homerun ball each time.
Lashlee discussed the batted ball issue from a question by a media member and said one was due to a missed block and the other wasn't determined to be on Nick either but I can't recall the reason he gave.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: CCTAU on October 14, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Lashlee discussed the batted ball issue from a question by a media member and said one was due to a missed block and the other wasn't determined to be on Nick either but I can't recall the reason he gave.

Drew Brees and Russel Wilson laugh at this. This is the difference between a true QB and a talented RB playing QB.

If you are short and want to play QB, you have to learn to see and throw through the lanes. hell at 6'2", I had trouble seeing over a short line. I can't imagine trying to see over 6'4" and 6'6" guys.

But the crossing routes are gold in football. You hit those, you can win at the passing game. You get your balls batted, and you end up like Snags....

I thought the option pass to M. Davis was a great call, NM just panicked a half second early. Hang in there and flick it at the last second, MD is gone. NM seemed to hang in there a fight a bit harder last season. Not addressing any heart issues. We know the kid has heart. I jsut think someone is harping about staying healthy. Just tell the kid to PLAY!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 14, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
Drew Brees and Russel Wilson laugh at this. This is the difference between a true QB and a talented RB playing QB.

If you are short and want to play QB, you have to learn to see and throw through the lanes. hell at 6'2", I had trouble seeing over a short line. I can't imagine trying to see over 6'4" and 6'6" guys.

But the crossing routes are gold in football. You hit those, you can win at the passing game. You get your balls batted, and you end up like Snags....

I thought the option pass to M. Davis was a great call, NM just panicked a half second early. Hang in there and flick it at the last second, MD is gone. NM seemed to hang in there a fight a bit harder last season. Not addressing any heart issues. We know the kid has heart. I jsut think someone is harping about staying healthy. Just tell the kid to PLAY!

I think so too (on the staying healthy part). I think the Aggy game last year scared them.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 02:25:14 PM
Nick's future at QB is now. As a CB or WR he might get chosen late or be invited for a tryout based on his speed and early backgound as a DB. But CB is much harder to break in at with limited experience whereas there are at least some success stories of college QBs converting to wideout, incl. Randle El and Hines Ward.

The Oregon hot shot didn't make it. Not sure about OMAC though he might make it moreso for his return skills and only be listed as a corner in media guides.

No need to hold back...RUN FOR THE GOLD!
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: The Six on October 14, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
Facts are facts, this is not a physical team. This is a finesse team (Texas A&M is the same way). Can that win in this league? Maybe but we all know the best hope for long term is to get back to pounding people and faking them out with the playaction.

This South Carolina game is going to say a lot. Auburn is a better team and should win convincingly if they show up interested. But I'm not sure this team has played a total package game yet. Here's to hoping that starts next week.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: GH2001 on October 14, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
Facts are facts, this is not a physical team. This is a finesse team (Texas A&M is the same way). Can that win in this league? Maybe but we all know the best hope for long term is to get back to pounding people and faking them out with the playaction.

This South Carolina game is going to say a lot. Auburn is a better team and should win convincingly if they show up interested. But I'm not sure this team has played a total package game yet. Here's to hoping that starts next week.

But is it out of necessity? I think it may be. OL - Kozan and Robinson = more narrow lanes, less push at LOS. Its pretty obvious. I like Fulse but he doesnt plow lanes like Prosch either.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: The Six on October 14, 2014, 02:36:52 PM
But is it out of necessity? I think it may be. OL - Kozan and Robinson = more narrow lanes, less push at LOS. Its pretty obvious. I like Fulse but he doesnt plow lanes like Prosch either.

Exactly. This line without Kozan just can't do that stuff this year. Which is why there are a lot more wide runs and a lot less success on the ground.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 03:06:07 PM
Facts are facts, this is not a physical team. This is a finesse team (Texas A&M is the same way). Can that win in this league? Maybe but we all know the best hope for long term is to get back to pounding people and faking them out with the playaction.

This South Carolina game is going to say a lot. Auburn is a better team and should win convincingly if they show up interested. But I'm not sure this team has played a total package game yet. Here's to hoping that starts next week.
You know, I always thought that when we had Buster Brown as coach, we lost our running game because of the mentality that seems to go with a pass happy team. Not saying that we are there yet but it looks as if lineman start thinking, "o.k., if we don't get anything on this first down, no biggie. Dameyune will bail us out with a spectacular escape and throw." VS the knock the defense on their ass for 3 downs and get a first, like last year. It's like we're in the midst of an identity crisis.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 14, 2014, 03:30:26 PM
A few stats from Joel Erickson at the dot  I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!!  I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others.  I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. of the al.  Like I said earlier, I'm not that worried about the offense. Would like to see Roc, Uzmanababa and Grant get more involved but the problems for me were simply the bolded parts. We had chance after chance after chance but for various reasons, kept shooting ourselves in the foot. 

Auburn's mistakes on the road kept piling up on Saturday night, thwarting the Tigers' chances to come back after a disastrous start.

And after the weekly examination of the statistics, Mississippi State held off the Tigers by forcing Auburn to falter in previous areas of strength.

For example, Auburn's defense hadn't given up any points off turnovers this season. The Bulldogs turned the first two into touchdowns. Dak Prescott gashed the previously stout Tigers' run defense for 121 yards, and on third downs and in the red zone -- two key areas of emphasis for Auburn on both sides of the ball -- Mississippi State kept the Tigers from living up to their previous statistical profile.

With that in mind, here's a look at where Auburn stands halfway through the season.

RUSHING OFFENSE

Last week: 268.0 yards per game (4th SEC, 15th nationally)

This week: 262.0 yards per game (3rd SEC, 15th nationally)

Why: Led by 100 yards from quarterback Nick Marshall, Auburn posted 232 rushing yards, by far the most allowed by Mississippi State's defense this season.

PASSING OFFENSE 

Last week: 229.2 yards per game (8th, 72nd)

This week: 225.8 yards per game (8th, 78th)

Why: Marshall threw for 209 yards, but the Tigers had 101 passing yards wiped out by their own penalties.

PASS EFFICIENCY OFFENSE

Last week: 168.74 (2nd, 6th)

This week: 154.88 (5th, 17th)

Why: Marshall tossed two touchdown passes, but he also completed only 17-of-35 passes and threw two interceptions, both deflections

TOTAL OFFENSE

Last week: 497.2 yards per game (4th, 25th)

This week: 487.8 yards per game (4th, 24th)

Why: Auburn finished with 441 yards of total offense, its second-lowest output of the season.

SCORING OFFENSE

Last week: 42.0 points per game (5th, 15th)

This week: 38.8 points per game (5th, 22nd)

Why: Auburn settled for four field-goal attempts on drives, Daniel Carlson's biggest workload of the season.

SACKS ALLOWED

Last week: 3 sacks, 0.6 per game (2nd, t-5th)

This week: 6 sacks, 1 per game (t-3rd, t-17th)

Why: Not only did Mississippi State double the number of sacks Auburn's allowed this season, but the Bulldogs recorded 13 quarterback hurries, by far the most the Tigers have allowed in the Gus Malzahn era.

THIRD-DOWN CONVERSIONS

Last week: 56.94 percent (1st, 2nd)

This week: 54.02 percent (1st, 2nd)

Why: Auburn converted 6 of its 15 chances on third down, or 40 percent, its lowest of the season after converting 42.86 percent against Louisiana Tech.

RED ZONE OFFENSE

Last week: 100 percent (t-1st, t-1st)

This week: 92.59 percent (2nd, t-14th)

Why: Auburn missed its first two chances of the season, a field goal by Carlson and a late interception by Marshall, but more importantly, the Tigers converted only two of their six chances into touchdowns, dropping their red-zone touchdown percentage to 70.37 percent and 22 spots nationally
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Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 14, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
Nice stats.  I think a lot of the worriments are unfounded.  We are a VERY good football team, and that was not our typical football team on Saturday. 

Miss State beat us by 15 points and we gave them 14 points within the first two minutes.  21 within the first five.  We GAVE them those points.  Yes, those mistakes count.  No, I'm not saying Miss State didn't deserve to win.

But they didn't whip our ass up and down the field.  It was a pretty good back-and-forth football game once we found our footing. 

I don't think much needs to be changed.  Marshall is still a better passer than last season.  CAP is a pretty good running back.  He's third in the SEC with 110 yards per game.  We have one of the best receivers in the country.  Our defense is twice as good as last season. 

We aren't perfect, but how many teams are?

2010, we had a defense that gave up huge chunks of yards.  2011 Alabama could run up the middle on offense and that was about it.  2013 Auburn couldn't pass the ball very well and gave up huge chunks of yards on pass defense. 

Am I the only one not worried at all?  Outside of not being up for two away games, I don't think there's anything impossible for this team. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
Nice stats.  I think a lot of the worriments are unfounded.  We are a VERY good football team, and that was not our typical football team on Saturday. 
Am I supposed to yell out very when reading this post?
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 14, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
Nice stats.  I think a lot of the worriments are unfounded.  We are a VERY good football team, and that was not our typical football team on Saturday. 

Miss State beat us by 15 points and we gave them 14 points within the first two minutes.  21 within the first five.  We GAVE them those points.  Yes, those mistakes count.  No, I'm not saying Miss State didn't deserve to win.

But they didn't whip our ass up and down the field.  It was a pretty good back-and-forth football game once we found our footing. 

I don't think much needs to be changed.  Marshall is still a better passer than last season.  CAP is a pretty good running back.  He's third in the SEC with 110 yards per game.  We have one of the best receivers in the country.  Our defense is twice as good as last season. 

We aren't perfect, but how many teams are?

2010, we had a defense that gave up huge chunks of yards.  2011 Alabama could run up the middle on offense and that was about it.  2013 Auburn couldn't pass the ball very well and gave up huge chunks of yards on pass defense. 

Am I the only one not worried at all?  Outside of not being up for two away games, I don't think there's anything impossible for this team.

I'm witcha' 100%.  Was not a fan of what Marshall was doing a few weeks ago but I've come around and think he gives us the best chance to win.  Saturday was about execution that was lacking in several areas.  Just get more discipline across the board and we can run the table. 
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 03:56:35 PM
Johnson didn't have a safety in the middle of the field on several successful 2nd half QB draws.
Gary pointed it out and I doubt it happens again.
We were defensing the sideline successfully in the second half because of that safety help and Prescott made us pay up the middle. Still, he failed several times trying to force throws into the boundary toward receivers that were adequately covered. Robinson broke free a few times as well due to the attention given to their receivers.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
Am I the only one not worried at all?  Outside of not being up for two away games, I don't think there's anything impossible for this team.
I agree that anything is possible and we have a realistic shot at getting to the playoffs and esp winning it all if we make it. I am disappointed that we played the way that we did more than the fact that we lost. If we had lost without the turnovers and the d still played adequate, I'm good with it.

It doesn't take long to spoil a fan base. Never forget 2012.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Godfather on October 14, 2014, 04:37:55 PM
I agree that anything is possible and we have a realistic shot at getting to the playoffs and esp winning it all if we make it. I am disappointed that we played the way that we did more than the fact that we lost. If we had lost without the turnovers and the d still played adequate, I'm good with it.

It doesn't take long to spoil a fan base. Never forget 2012.
Dis.  I don't mind getting beaten by a better team, they are not a better team.  Much like FSU last year.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 14, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
Dis.  I don't mind getting beaten by a better team, they are not a better team.  Much like FSU last year.
Don't dis me. I come from the streets. I have killed mofo's for less than this. You dis me, I dis you mofo.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 14, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
Don't dis me. I come from the streets. I have killed mofo's for less than this. You dis me, I dis you mofo.

Choo deedin leesin to me an lookatchoo now.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 14, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
We played a bad game against the team a few of us knew we would scruggle against. Happy times are ahead.
Folks need to stop all dis dissin."
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 14, 2014, 05:26:54 PM
A girl named Carol follows Daryll every gig we play
Then D dissed her and dismissed her, now she's jockin' Jay
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 15, 2014, 06:53:39 AM
Nice stats.  I think a lot of the worriments are unfounded.  We are a VERY good football team, and that was not our typical football team on Saturday. 

Miss State beat us by 15 points and we gave them 14 points within the first two minutes.  21 within the first five.  We GAVE them those points.  Yes, those mistakes count.  No, I'm not saying Miss State didn't deserve to win.

But they didn't whip our ass up and down the field.  It was a pretty good back-and-forth football game once we found our footing. 

I don't think much needs to be changed.  Marshall is still a better passer than last season.  CAP is a pretty good running back.  He's third in the SEC with 110 yards per game.  We have one of the best receivers in the country.  Our defense is twice as good as last season. 

We aren't perfect, but how many teams are?

2010, we had a defense that gave up huge chunks of yards.  2011 Alabama could run up the middle on offense and that was about it.  2013 Auburn couldn't pass the ball very well and gave up huge chunks of yards on pass defense. 

Am I the only one not worried at all?  Outside of not being up for two away games, I don't think there's anything impossible for this team.
Went back and watched the first three quarters. Duke's fumble in first quarter was devastating, decision to let Uzumah throw in two down territory only to kick FG, WORSE, especially when Mullen had his punter attempt a failed pass minutes earlier.

Having no safety in the middle of the field all but stopped their passing game but it severely hampered our run defense. We had no answer for the QB draw or the bowling ball off tackle.

As for the rest of the schedule, I think Coach Johnson will know how to better control how we defend from the results of this game so we can win out.

We should handle the Gamecocks and Ole Miss sets much the same way as State only we are at home-Rebs are loaded with veterans, dual threat QB that will force passes into coverage yet they do not have a running back like Robinson. And rest assured,  Whitey will dial up the heat on brother Bo.

I'm comfortable with our finesse offense scoring enough points from here out. We have too many weapons and I know we will make far fewer mistakes in the rest of the games. Also think we get to see more of Roc Thomas allowing CAP to have fresh legs which will likely help Nick bust some more runs as well.

One at a time! :sneer:   



   
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: AUChizad on October 15, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
Ole Miss sets much the same way as State only we are at home
Might wanna check the schedule again.
Title: Re: Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14
Post by: jmar on October 15, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
Might wanna check the schedule again.
I stand corrected.