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Rut Roh.... :haha:
he sees it, cowherd sees it, others see it.
Yes...cracks...they are happening.
By Kevin Scarbinsky | kscarbinsky@al.com
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on October 06, 2014 at 5:48 PM, updated October 06, 2014 at 5:54 PM
How do you sense when a dynasty may be in decline? How do you distinguish between one or two or three bad days and the first, inevitable steps in descent from the summit of the highest mountain?
How do you see the forest for the trees in the middle of a college football season when you've just watched a goal post walk down the street in Oxford, Mississippi?
If the dynasty is Alabama football under Nick Saban, the following true facts and mini-trends would have to qualify as clues if not outright cracks.
Ole Miss 23, Alabama 17 was the Crimson Tide's earliest loss on the calendar and on the schedule since Saban's first season in Tuscaloosa in 2007. Stephen Garcia had his Bo Wallace moment and South Carolina beat Julio Jones, Mark Ingram and company five days and one game later in 2010.
This was the third straight ranked opponent that Alabama's failed to beat. It started with No. 4 Auburn in the 2013 Iron Bowl, continued with No. 6 Oklahoma in the 2014 Sugar Bowl and extended to No. 11 Ole Miss in the Katy Perry Bowl.
In each of those games, Alabama was ranked in the top 10. The Crimson Tide was No. 1 in both major polls when it lost to Auburn and No. 1 in the coaches' poll Saturday.
Alabama is now 4-3 in its last seven games, the program's worst stretch since it also went 4-3 in the final seven regular-season games of 2010.
But it's not just what happened in Oxford that could be a chapter in a William Faulkner novel. It's what keeps happening to plague the Crimson Tide that has to raise eyebrows. Problems aren't getting solved, and in some cases, they're carrying over from one season to the next.
Field goals continue to go awry, and kicks continue to get covered poorly at times, if at all. In the last three losses, Alabama has gone 2 for 9 on field goals. Adam Griffith missed two of his three attempts Saturday in a game decided by six points.
The defense, particularly the secondary, continues to struggle with getting lined up, getting the calls and making adjustments against what Saban calls fastball offenses. Tempo has been a common feature of the last four teams to beat Alabama, starting with the 2012 home loss to Johnny Manziel and Texas A&M.
In the losses to Auburn, Oklahoma and Ole Miss, the Crimson Tide defense surrendered six second-half touchdowns. Every one of them was a passing touchdown. Playing the ball in the air has been a recurring issue for the Tide's defensive backs, despite Saban's personal attention.
Despite the talent it continues to stockpile on Signing Day, Alabama remains just as vulnerable to key injuries as teams that don't land the No. 1 recruiting class in America year after year. Explosive plays by the offense were rare Saturday before and after playmaker Kenyan Drake suffered that gruesome broken leg, and communication suffered after center Ryan Kelly went out with a twisted knee.
From an intangible standpoint, the killer instinct that used to be one of the hallmarks of Saban's teams also has faded. The fourth quarter against ranked teams has become something of a disaster.
Alabama lost to Auburn and Oklahoma last season and to Ole Miss on Saturday because it lost the fourth quarter of a close game in each case. Collectively, the Tigers, Sooners and Rebels outscored the Tide 40-14 in the final 15 minutes.
Hard to say whether that's a deficit in conditioning, in-game adjustments or mental toughness, but it's shocking in light of Saban's two-pronged mantra of start fast and finish strong. Against the best opponents on the schedule, Alabama has forgotten how to finish.
Does that mean Alabama's incredible run as what Hugh Freeze called the gold standard of major college football is done? Not necessarily. The Crimson Tide rebounded from regular-season defeats in 2011 and 2012 to win back-to-back national titles, and they did it with a first-time starter at quarterback in 2011.
But those Alabama teams improved as those seasons progressed. A year ago, the Crimson Tide went backward after a rousing win over LSU. This step back against Ole Miss came after an open date with an extra week to prepare.
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Scarbinsky better watch it or he will get some of this:
http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE (http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE)
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Scarbinsky better watch it or he will get some of this:
http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE (http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE)
Fuck that trooper. Let's just knock down anyone in Lord Saybinz way by GOD!
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Fuck that trooper. Let's just knock down anyone in Lord Saybinz way by GOD!
Disagree. That motherfucker isn't allowed to be on the field.
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Disagree. That motherfucker isn't allowed to be on the field.
Yeah, anybody else noticed how many posts about "act like you've been there" the Bammers have been spewing since the Katy Perry dustoff? I'm continually amazed by that fanbase who thinks it is their right and duty to police college football fandom for all. Because rushing the field is bush league. Laying your nuts on someone's face and posting it on the Internet? That's how it's done Bammer style.
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Yeah, anybody else noticed how many posts about "act like you've been there" the Bammers have been spewing since the Katy Perry dustoff? I'm continually amazed by that fanbase who thinks it is their right and duty to police college football fandom for all. Because rushing the field is bush league. Laying your nuts on someone's face and posting it on the Internet? That's how it's done Bammer style.
Don't forget the trees. Killing trees is also a bammer tradishin!
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Let's play Sister Cleo for a minute:
The mighty tahd drops another game (or two or three) and is outside the playoff looking in.
The unwashed masses are restless and the $$ boosters are not happy with their ROI.
Saban says, "Fuck it. I wanted to leave last year and Mack fucked it all up when he dug his heels in. I have a mountain of cash and don't need this shit. I'm off like a prom dress, bitches."
On the way out the door, the disgruntled, petulant little shit burns the place to the ground with a few tips to some non-bama media.
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Let's play Sister Cleo for a minute:
The mighty tahd drops another game (or two or three) and is outside the playoff looking in.
The unwashed masses are restless and the $$ boosters are not happy with their ROI.
Saban says, "Fuck it. I wanted to leave last year and Mack fucked it all up when he dug his heels in. I have a mountain of cash and don't need this shit. I'm off like a prom dress, bitches."
On the way out the door, the disgruntled, petulant little shit burns the place to the ground with a few tips to some non-bama media.
Is this our fair warning? If so, those that live in this state need to go now and start stocking up on goods. There will be riots in the streets and the possibility of a government shutdown.
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Let's play Sister Cleo for a minute:
The mighty tahd drops another game (or two or three) and is outside the playoff looking in.
The unwashed masses are restless and the $$ boosters are not happy with their ROI.
Saban says, "Fuck it. I wanted to leave last year and Mack fucked it all up when he dug his heels in. I have a mountain of cash and don't need this shit. I'm off like a prom dress, bitches."
On the way out the door, the disgruntled, petulant little shit burns the place to the ground with a few tips to some non-bama media.
I can see all of that other than the last part. That might incriminate him and his ego wouldn't allow that to happen and tarnish his legacy.
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Scarbinsky better watch it or he will get some of this:
http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE (http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE)
Seemed to be the day that fans hit the ground.
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Disagree. That motherfucker isn't allowed to be on the field.
Sure he is. Just with a big fat fine that his school will pay.
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I can see all of that other than the last part. That might incriminate him and his ego wouldn't allow that to happen and tarnish his legacy.
Nah. He's insulated. He knows enough to know where the skeletons are hidden, but has maintained deniability (even if it's laughable).
Nothing is ever his fault: players don't execute, other teams play too fast (and use illegal blocking schemes), boosters run rogue.
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Nah. He's insulated. He knows enough to know where the skeletons are hidden, but has maintained deniability (even if it's laughable).
Nothing is ever his fault: players don't execute, other teams play too fast (and use illegal blocking schemes), boosters run rogue.
The Ric Flair of CFB babyyyyy.....WHOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Nah. He's insulated. He knows enough to know where the skeletons are hidden, but has maintained deniability (even if it's laughable).
Nothing is ever his fault: players don't execute, other teams play too fast (and use illegal blocking schemes), boosters run rogue.
^^This^^
All you have to do is listen to his post-loss press conferences. These kids just don't buy into his foolproof process, or they would have won.
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Speaking of the Ole Piss game and how Bammers are saying, "act like you've been there" and such; we'll they (ole miss) haven't been there. It was evident in the way they reacted. It was as if they had won the mega millions, national championship and a free tractor all rolled up into one. Which is fine. I'm just glad that we didn't tear our own goal posts down after last years Iron Bowl, which will is remembered as possibly the best game evah in the history of sports.
As a matter of fact, I've only been to one game in JHS that I can remember the goal posts coming down and it was during Buster Browns era vs Bama.
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The last time Ole Miss was 5-0, JFK was Prez. They really haven't been there before.
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The last time Ole Miss was 5-0, JFK was Prez. They really haven't been there before.
Oh shit, Obama better watch out.
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The last time Ole Miss was 5-0, JFK was Prez. They really haven't been there before.
Did you vote for JFK?
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Speaking of the Ole Piss game and how Bammers are saying, "act like you've been there" and such; we'll they (ole miss) haven't been there. It was evident in the way they reacted. It was as if they had won the mega millions, national championship and a free tractor all rolled up into one. Which is fine. I'm just glad that we didn't tear our own goal posts down after last years Iron Bowl, which will is remembered as possibly the best game evah in the history of sports.
As a matter of fact, I've only been to one game in JHS that I can remember the goal posts coming down and it was during Buster Browns era vs Bama.
"Attention Students, please do not throw the goalposts out of the stadium." PLEASE DO NOT THROW THE GOAL POSTS OUT OF THE STADIUM!
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Oh shit, Obama better watch out.
One could only hope.
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One could only hope.
A mark that will leave.
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A mark that will leave.
On his permanent record.
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On his permanent record.
I wonder what all of these black SUVs are doing in front of my buildi......
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I wonder what all of these black SUVs are doing in front of my buildi......
Does anyone know how to get to Guantanamo?
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I wonder what all of these black SUVs are doing in front of my buildi......
Tarheel reported you to attackwatch.com.
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Phyllis LMFAO!
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It's on sportscenter right now
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Speaking of the Ole Piss game and how Bammers are saying, "act like you've been there" and such; we'll they (ole miss) haven't been there. It was evident in the way they reacted. It was as if they had won the mega millions, national championship and a free tractor all rolled up into one. Which is fine. I'm just glad that we didn't tear our own goal posts down after last years Iron Bowl, which will is remembered as possibly the best game evah in the history of sports.
As a matter of fact, I've only been to one game in JHS that I can remember the goal posts coming down and it was during Buster Browns era vs Bama.
The last time it came down was my freshman year in 01 after we beat Spurrier's #1 Flordia. I hung from that motherfucker and it was awesome. To this day, I pinpoint that as the day I fell in love with college football, officially.
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Nah. He's insulated. He knows enough to know where the skeletons are hidden, but has maintained deniability (even if it's laughable).
Nothing is ever his fault: players don't execute, other teams play too fast (and use illegal blocking schemes), boosters run rogue.
I wish this were true, but nah. Too much culpability and would tarnish his legacy.
That being said, I do see the first part happening. He will lose one or two of these depending on how badly the wheels fall off: Arkansas, Texas A&M, LSU, Mississippi State. Most likely A&M & State. And he will lose to Auburn. .500 or worse in the West. Book it. I've got them at 9-3 or 8-4 after this season.
The Bama fanbase will get salty about it. They'll surely demand Kiffin's head on a platter, but there will most likely be a lot of discontent with Saban as well. Three losses while Auburn plays for the championship two years in a row while they sit at home and watch is NOT going to sit well with them. Saban being 0-2 against Gus will NOT sit well with them.
Not sure if it'll be enough for him to up and quit, but it will be fun to watch, regardless.
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I wish this were true, but nah. Too much culpability and would target his legacy.
That being said, I do see the first part happening. He will lose one or two of these depending on how badly the wheels fall off: Arkansas, Texas A&M, LSU, Mississippi State. Most likely A&M & State. And he will lose to Auburn. .500 or worse in the West. Book it. I've got them at 9-3 or 8-4 after this season.
The Bama fanbase will get salty about it. They'll surely demand Kiffin's head on a platter, but there will most likely be a lot of discontent with Saban as well. Three losses while Auburn plays for the championship two years in a row while they sit at home and watch is NOT going to sit well with them. Saban being 0-2 against Gus will NOT sit well with them.
Not sure if it'll be enough for him to up and quit, but it will be fun to watch, regardless.
I think everybody here agreed with the notion that one reason Kiffin was hired as OC was to be a scapegoat when the shit went down. This is becoming more and more of the plausible outcome.
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This would be Kiffen's second straight "dynasty" destruction
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I'm already calling it they lose to Arkansas this weekend.
Bert gets his first SEC win for the Ermgerdhawgs
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Bert gets his first SEC win for the Ermgerdhawgs
That will end the honeymoon. Nick will cold-shoulder Bert at the next rules-making box social.
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That will end the honeymoon. Nick will cold-shoulder Bert at the next rules-making box social.
Your words are hurtful Bert.
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That will end the honeymoon. Nick will cold-shoulder Bert at the next rules-making box social.
Which will necessitate the following question of who invited the bad people?
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Give me one more loss before I officially jump on the crumbling dynasty bandwagon. The signs are there and they certainly haven't faired well against the past few ranked teams they played. Saturday wasn't a Lord Saybinz vs. "Fast Teams" problem. They held Ole Miss to 323 total yards in the Game of the Mississippi Millineum. Saturday was a damn stout Ole Miss D that held the offense to 10 points. I know it'll wind up being the same old, "You're still Ole Miss". But, their defense is whipping everyone's ass. Good and bad teams.
Don't get me wrong. I'll be a huge Burton Bolemia fan this weekend. I just don't see one loss against a team that just wasn't going to lose that day as the nail in the coffin. I can hope, though.
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I just don't see one loss against a team that just wasn't going to lose that day as the nail in the coffin.
Depends on the team.....One loss to them is pretty dramatic.
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It's a chink in the armor for sure. I just don't see them losing to a "real 'murican football" team like Arkansas, a team they were built to stop. I still think MSU and Auburn will give them fits and possibly/hopefully beat them. aTm may play them very close as well. They lost 3 in 2010, then proceeded to win the next two MNCs. Mind you, they won't be able to back into the championship game anymore, so more MNCs are not likely; however, Lord Saybinz will still have them in the SEC hunt until he retires or leaves for Michigan.
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I just don't see them losing to a "real 'murican football" team like Arkansas, a team they were built to stop.
You're ignoring the human factor. Yes, the physical pieces are in place for bama to dominate Arkansas. But this team has looked emotionally fragile and exhibiting a lack of cohesiveness.
I think they're about to let go of the rope.
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It's a chink in the armor for sure. I just don't see them losing to a "real 'murican football" team like Arkansas, a team they were built to stop. I still think MSU and Auburn will give them fits and possibly/hopefully beat them. aTm may play them very close as well. They lost 3 in 2010, then proceeded to win the next two MNCs. Mind you, they won't be able to back into the championship game anymore, so more MNCs are not likely; however, Lord Saybinz will still have them in the SEC hunt until he retires or leaves for Michigan.
Lord Saybinz was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Lord Saybinz ain't shit.
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Lord Saybinz was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Lord Saybinz ain't shit.
Vat about Rocky Marciano?
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http://youtu.be/3X76OttasCI (http://youtu.be/3X76OttasCI)
Refs???????? <snicker>
http://youtu.be/VTnH8z74zJw (http://youtu.be/VTnH8z74zJw)
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You're ignoring the human factor. Yes, the physical pieces are in place for bama to dominate Arkansas. But this team has looked emotionally fragile and exhibiting a lack of cohesiveness.
I think they're about to let go of the rope.
I like the way you think counselor.
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You're ignoring the human factor. Yes, the physical pieces are in place for bama to dominate Arkansas. But this team has looked emotionally fragile and exhibiting a lack of cohesiveness.
I think they're about to let go of the rope.
I really hope you're right. It will be glorious to watch.
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I really hope you're right. It will be glorious to watch.
Thisss isss whore shiatt!
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Refs???????? <snicker>
LEG!
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Here me now, but believe me later. Arkansas will run all day on them.
Final Arky 24 spuat-21
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Here me now, but believe me later. Arkansas will run all day on them.
Final Arky 24 spuat-21
Please...pleaseeeeeee let this happen.
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The last time it came down was my freshman year in 01 after we beat Spurrier's #1 Flordia. I hung from that motherfudgeer and it was awesome. To this day, I pinpoint that as the day I fell in love with college football, officially.
It comes as no surprise to me for you do something this faggish.
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It comes as no surprise to me for you do something this faggish.
Chizad is a crazy mofo.
You should see him and Buzz at X Gate rubbing weiners. Its full of funny.
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Chizad is a crazy mofo.
You should see him and Buzz at X Gate rubbing weiners. Its full of funny.
I'm gonna tell Mrs. Dallas.
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I'm gonna tell Mrs. Dallas.
She will think they are rubbing gaming consoles made by Nintendo.
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Chizad is a crazy mofo.
You should see him and Buzz at X Gate rubbing weiners. Its full of funny.
Hey Buzz, let's rub our wieners together. Come on, you sumbitch. I won't tell nobody.
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Hey Buzz, let's rub our wieners together. Come on, you sumbitch. I won't tell nobody.
The old Carrington jokes still crack me up.
"I'm tired of eatin pussy. I wanna suck some dick!"
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Here me now, but believe me later. Arkansas will run all day on them.
Final Arky 24 spuat-21
I hope you're right, but I was thinking the same thing as Buzz that Arkansas is one of the last remaining Saban-approved "Regular Murican Football" teams. But I still think they're pretty evenly matched teams, actually. Like I said, if it doesn't come from them, it'll come from A&M, LSU, or State. And they'll definitely lose to us, unless something tragic happens between now and then.
And I definitely think the dynasty is over. It started with the Kick 6, perpetuated with the Sugar Bowl, and now has basically been codified by Katy Perry. It won't get better.
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I hope you're right, but I was thinking the same thing as Buzz that Arkansas is one of the last remaining Saban-approved "Regular Murican Football" teams.
Was this while you were rubbing wieners?
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And they'll definitely lose to us, unless something tragic happens between now and then.
Dude...
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Scarbinsky better watch it or he will get some of this:
http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE (http://youtu.be/pxF1x33S0oE)
He is such a small man.
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Was this while you were rubbing wieners?
Look, mister...what we do in the privacy of our home the X-Gate is our damn bidness.
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And they'll definitely lose to us, unless something tragic happens between now and then.
I'm not repeating that unless they look like pure horse dung in the weeks leading up to the Iron Bowl.
Fingers in ears...lalalalalalalala.....
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Book it.
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Some of you need to slow your roll. We just beat a piss poor LSU team pretty bad and some decent other teams. We still play in the toughest division and likely have the toughest remaining schedule in all of football. A lot of stuff can happen. Don't count your chickens in front of the cart.
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Some of you need to slow your roll. We just beat a piss poor LSU team pretty bad and some decent other teams. We still play in the toughest division and likely have the toughest remaining schedule in all of football. A lot of stuff can happen. Don't count your chickens in front of the cart.
A rolling stone is worth two in the bush.
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A rolling stone is worth two in the bush.
Unless it's your balls
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Unless it's your balls
Moss gathered, they have.
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Moss gathered, they have.
They doesnt exist. Or at least not in his presence.
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They doesnt exist. Or at least not in his presence.
I'll have you know she let me have them two weekends ago when I went on the men's church retreat to the lake.
I felt like a man again. I could even talk to a mechanic without tearing up.