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Title: Malaysian 777
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 14, 2014, 11:07:44 AM
So what are your theories?

I'm going with plane diverted to undisclosed location to be used later for a big terrorist attack
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: CCTAU on March 14, 2014, 11:08:39 AM
Millenium....
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Saniflush on March 14, 2014, 11:13:02 AM
I don't know what to think. 
I have been following this relatively closely and it appears to be one big clusterfuck.
What I personally believe is it was hijacked and plummeted into the drink.  I find it hard to believe that anything that large is going to stay hidden if they made landfall anywhere.
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: WiregrassTiger on March 14, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
I've never enjoyed flying, it makes me nervous. But I guess there is some advantage to crashing on land rather than surviving a sea crash and treading water until one gives out. Horrible thought.
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 14, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
I've never enjoyed flying, it makes me nervous. But I guess there is some advantage to crashing on land rather than surviving a sea crash and treading water until one gives out. Horrible thought.


Please to explain?
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: WiregrassTiger on March 14, 2014, 12:25:14 PM

Please to explain?
Well, surviving a sea crash and then eventually being eaten by sharks or drowning.
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 14, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
Well, surviving a sea crash and then eventually being eaten by sharks or drowning.


My point was there is "no advantage" to crashing anywhere.
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: CCTAU on March 14, 2014, 12:39:34 PM
So. Since this thing just disappeared from radar, does that mean it disintegrated midair?

If it crashed into the ground, wouldn't radar show it descending?
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 14, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
So. Since this thing just disappeared from radar, does that mean it disintegrated midair?

If it crashed into the ground, wouldn't radar show it descending?


Well from my understanding the Transponder got turned off in mid flight (which turned off the planes signature to the tower), and you really have to know what you're doing to do that.
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on March 14, 2014, 12:53:37 PM
I've never enjoyed flying, it makes me nervous. But I guess there is some advantage to crashing on land rather than surviving a sea crash and treading water until one gives out. Horrible thought.

Interesting fact:  I learned from a FAA lecturer that only around 40% of people die on impact, most die of fire, smoke inhalation, or drowning.  Good times!


I have no idea what happened, I just know that unless the plane originates out of the US, Canada, France, Germany, UK, or Japan my butt will not be on it.  And I will never fly on a general aviation aircraft (overwhelming majority of US flight related deaths are people in small planes).
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: djsimp on March 14, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Interesting fact:  I learned from a FAA lecturer that only around 40% of people die on impact, most die of fire, smoke inhalation, or drowning.  Good times!

(http://40acresandacubicle.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/soulplanepic.jpg)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Saniflush on March 14, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
(http://40acresandacubicle.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/soulplanepic.jpg)

Your flight is about to get FUNKY!
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 14, 2014, 01:51:23 PM
If it was hijacked to be used for a terrorist attack, I'd imagine that it would be used fairly quickly.  As stated, it's hard to hide a 777 for a long period of time.

Though if a country's government was in on it, it'd be real easy to hide it. 
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: djsimp on March 14, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Your flight is about to get FUNKY!

When the buzzer pops, ni**a, you stop!
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 14, 2014, 02:23:47 PM
If it was hijacked to be used for a terrorist attack, I'd imagine that it would be used fairly quickly.  As stated, it's hard to hide a 777 for a long period of time.

Though if a country's government was in on it, it'd be real easy to hide it.


(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/kennmac/vintage%20movie%20posters/airport_seventy_seven.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/kennmac/media/vintage%20movie%20posters/airport_seventy_seven.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: djsimp on March 14, 2014, 02:29:13 PM
(http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/Airplane-autopilot.jpg)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: dallaswareagle on March 14, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
UAT official plane:

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/Monster-Airplane--651711_zps721682c9.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/Monster-Airplane--651711_zps721682c9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: CCTAU on March 14, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
Interesting. Apparently the plane kept flying after the transponder was turned off.

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-plane-sent-signals-satellite-hours-211405973--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/missing-plane-sent-signals-satellite-hours-211405973--politics.html)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 14, 2014, 07:53:06 PM
Interesting. Apparently the plane kept flying after the transponder was turned off.

http://news.yahoo.com/missing-plane-sent-signals-satellite-hours-211405973--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/missing-plane-sent-signals-satellite-hours-211405973--politics.html)

Thing was hijacked.

Someone in the future will find a island out in the middle of the ocean that has a random runway with 275 skeletons.   
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 14, 2014, 09:07:57 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/158/326/9148130.jpg)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 14, 2014, 10:41:39 PM
Serious question -

I've seen it in movies, but I've doubted it's possibility. 

What are the chances that a second plane with radar blocking equipment engaged the 777?  Make a connection.  Send a few trained guys on board.  Commandeer plane. 

The latest I'm reading is that the plane flew quite a ways off track as if it were being controlled by a human.  It means one of three things: one of the pilots did it, an on board trained hijacker did it, or an outside party did it. 

Unless they've kept information about the passengers secret, there aren't any signs that any passenger could have been capable of flying the plane. 
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: The Prowler on March 15, 2014, 01:25:00 AM
Did no one have a cellphone on that plane?
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 15, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
Did no one have a cellphone on that plane?

They did and that's added to the conspiracy.

Conventional wisdom is that if your phone is turned off - or submerged at the bottom of the sea - it goes straight to voicemail if you call it.  Many family members said they called passengers and the phones rang. 
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: bottomfeeder on March 16, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
It seems we have a naval base that way. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppIc0MiZpFg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppIc0MiZpFg#)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.html)
Title: Re: Malaysian 777
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on March 17, 2014, 09:52:40 AM
Serious question -

I've seen it in movies, but I've doubted it's possibility. 

What are the chances that a second plane with radar blocking equipment engaged the 777?  Make a connection.  Send a few trained guys on board.  Commandeer plane. 

The latest I'm reading is that the plane flew quite a ways off track as if it were being controlled by a human.  It means one of three things: one of the pilots did it, an on board trained hijacker did it, or an outside party did it. 

Unless they've kept information about the passengers secret, there aren't any signs that any passenger could have been capable of flying the plane.

Radar jammers/blockers don't really work that way.  They don't make the target disappear, they just make it fuzzy and indistinct but you still know there's something there.  Unless somebody has something new.  France was working on a radar evading ECM that worked by sending out radar waves 180 degrees out of phase that would block all signals but I don't think it was every really perfected.

I think the best bet is that it was one of the pilots.  One of the pilots was a member of a Malaysian opposition group whose leader was jailed the day of the flight.  There was a pic of him (pilot) on the news this morning wearing a "Democracy is Dead" shirt.