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Title: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Ogre on October 31, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Do we get rings?  Is there a special handshake?  Or are gingers not allowed?

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Pentagon training manual: white males have unfair advantages

A controversial 600-plus page manual used by the military to train its Equal Opportunity officers teaches that "healthy, white, heterosexual, Christian" men hold an unfair advantage over other races, and warns in great detail about a so-called "White Male Club."

“Simply put, a healthy, white, heterosexual, Christian male receives many unearned advantages of social privilege, whereas a black, homosexual, atheist female in poor health receives many unearned disadvantages of social privilege,” reads a statement in the manual created by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute (DEOMI).

The manual, which was obtained by Fox News, also instructs troops to “support the leadership of people of color. Do this consistently, but not uncritically,” the manual states.

The Equal Opportunity Advisor Student Guide is the textbook used during a three month DEOMI course taught at Patrick Air Force Base in Florida. Individuals who attend the training lead Equal Opportunity briefings on military installations around the nation.

The 637-page manual covers a wide range of issues from racism and religious diversity to cultural awareness, extremism and white privilege.

I obtained a copy of the manual from an Equal Opportunity officer who was disturbed by the course content and furious over the DEOMI’s reliance on the Southern Poverty Law Center for information on “extremist” groups. 

“I’m participating in teaching things that are not true,” the instructor told me. He asked not to be identified because he feared reprisals.

“I should not be in a position to do that,” he said. “It violates Constitutional principles, but it also violates my conscience. And I’m not going to do it – not going to do it.”

DEOMI instructors were also responsible for briefings at bases around the country that falsely labeled evangelical Christians, Catholics and a number of high-profile Christian ministries as domestic hate groups. 

I contacted the Pentagon as well as the DEOMI multiple times for comment on this story, but so far they have not responded to my requests.

DEOMI opened in 1971 in response to the civil rights movement. It’s responsible for Equal Opportunity/Equal Employment Opportunity education and training for military active duty and reservists, according to its website.

The subject of white privilege emerged in a 20-page section titled, “Power and Privilege.”

“Whites are the empowered group,” the manual declares. “White males represent the haves as compared to the have-nots.”

The military document advises personnel to “assume racism is everywhere, every day” and “notice code words for race.” They are also instructed to “understand and learn from the history of whiteness and racism.”

“Assume racism is everywhere, everyday,” read a statement in a section titled, ‘How to be a strong 'white ally.'"

“One of the privileges of being white is not having to see or deal with racism all the time,” the manual states. “We have to learn to see the effect that racism has.”

On page 181 of the manual, the military points out that status and wealth are typically passed from generation to generation and “represent classic examples of the unearned advantages of social privilege.”

“As such, the unfair economic advantages and disadvantages created long ago by institutions for whites, males, Christians, etc. still affect socioeconomic privilege today,” the manual states.

The guide also points out that whites are over-represented and blacks are underrepresented in positive news stories, that middle class blacks live in poorer neighborhoods than middle class whites and that even though there are more white criminals than any other race, the news coverage of black criminals is about equal to the news coverage of white criminals.

The military manual goes into great detail about a so-called “White Male Club.”

“In spite of slave insurrections, civil war, the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, the women’s suffrage movement leading to the 19th amendment, the civil rights movement, urban rebellions and the contemporary feminist movement, the club persists,” the document states.

DEOMI states that “full access to the resources of the club still escape the vision of equitable distribution.”

The military also implies that white Americans may be in denial about racism.

In a section titled, “Rationalizations for Retaining Privilege and Avoiding Responsibilities,” the military lays out excuses white people use.

“Today some white people may use the tactic of denial when they say, ‘It’s a level playing field; this is a land of equal opportunity,’” the manual reads. “Some white people may be counterattacking today by saying political correctness rules the universities or they want special status.”

DEOMI points out that if “white people are unable to maintain that the atrocities are all in the past, they may switch to tactics to make a current situation seem isolated.”

They said some of the ways whites may claim to be victims include saying things like, “I have it just as bad as anyone else,” “They’re taking away our jobs,” or “White people are under attack.”
The military concludes the section by urging students to “understand and learn from the history of whiteness and racism” and “support the leadership of people of color.”

I called former Congressman and Lt. Col. Allen West (ret.) to get his take on the manual. In a nutshell – he wants a congressional investigation.

“This is the Obama administration’s outreach of social justice into the United States military,” he told me. “Equal Opportunity in the Army that I grew up in did not have anything to do with white privilege.”

West said he is very concerned about the training guide.

“When the president talked about fundamentally transforming the United States of America, I believe he also had a dedicated agenda of going after the United States military,” he said. “The priorities of this administration are totally whacked.”

West said the DEOMI manual reminded him of a similar program inflicted on the military by President Clinton.

“They came down with a new training requirement called, ‘Consideration of Others Training,’” he said. “The soldiers were supposed to sit around and go through vignettes and talk about their feelings.”

I truly wish the Pentagon and the DEOMI would return my telephone calls. I’d like to know how teaching soldiers, airmen and sailors about white privilege and fomenting racial division helps them protect our nation from the enemy.

TL;DR version:  Whitey is bad and inherently racist because whiteness.  They are the reason your life sucks.  Play nice but don't trust them.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/31/pentagon-training-manual-white-males-have-unfair-advantages/)
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Saniflush on October 31, 2013, 02:55:11 PM
Do we get rings?  Is there a special handshake?  Or are gingers not allowed?

TL;DR version:  Whitey is bad and inherently racist because whiteness.  They are the reason your life sucks.  Play nice but don't trust them.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/31/pentagon-training-manual-white-males-have-unfair-advantages/)

This may be the most disturbing part...

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I obtained a copy of the manual from an Equal Opportunity officer who was disturbed by the course content and furious over the DEOMI’s reliance on the Southern Poverty Law Center for information on “extremist” groups. 
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
I don't think anyone can argue that you have to really work at it to fuck up being a hetero white male in this country.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Saniflush on October 31, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
I don't think anyone can argue that you have to really work at it to fuck up being a hetero white male in this country.

This thread would disagree.

http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,64973.0.html (http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,64973.0.html)
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 03:05:44 PM
This thread would disagree.

http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,64973.0.html (http://woopig.net/board/index.php/topic,64973.0.html)

How dare you denigrate the effort put forth by those fine Washington county residents...
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 31, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
I don't think anyone can argue that you have to really work at it to fuck up being a hetero white male in this country.

Way too many examples to shoot this down but here's one.

(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/moorelj/bammerfan.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/moorelj/media/bammerfan.jpg.html)
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 03:13:08 PM
Way too many examples to shoot this down but here's one.

(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/moorelj/bammerfan.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/moorelj/media/bammerfan.jpg.html)

Christ, you people (/noracism) are dense.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Christ, you people (/noracism) are dense.

Don't bring religion into this.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 31, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
Christ, you people (/noracism) are dense.

I don't think I need to lose that much weight?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on October 31, 2013, 03:49:24 PM
I don't think anyone can argue that you have to really work at it to fuck up being a hetero white male in this country.

Why? They're the only ones who don't get an artificial handicap or advantage from the govt or society.

Shall we go through the real world examples?

Unless you are using some of THS' extreme hyperbole.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 03:52:22 PM
Why? They're the only ones who don't get an artificial handicap or advantage from the govt or society.

Shall we go through the real world examples?

Despite those artificial "advantages", if white hetero male shows up (and can refrain from drooling on himself and has managed to avoid any involvement with the judicial system...also easy for HWM), HE likely gets the job.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on October 31, 2013, 04:05:43 PM
Despite those artificial "advantages", if white hetero male shows up (and can refrain from drooling on himself and has managed to avoid any involvement with the judicial system...also easy for HWM), HE likely gets the job.

Have you ever applied for a job at the post office? It is there and places of the like where you will find out quickly that they put white males right below snake shit on the hiring ladder.

But let's go with your argument here - You're also assuming HWM gets the job because he is simply HWM. HWMs also tend to be more qualified and educated in general. So are Asians. Maybe that's why HWM got the job you speak of. In the event of a tie however, the woman or minority is going to get that job simply for being just that.

And I'm not trying to pick an argument with you or anything. I just don't think it's as simple as you stated in your first post. There are lots of variables at play. I've experienced it first hand.

HWM has to pay his own way to college for the most part. Unless dirt poor, no grants. Not for simply being HWM. No UNCF.

HWM doesn't get exemptions in re to college admissions. If I want to get in, I have to make the score. Because of quotas that's not the case with non HWM.

There is no law saying quota has to be met for hiring HWM.

And on and on.

There is such a shit ton of help out there for non HWM. Which more than offsets any advantage HWM has from his historical reputation and perception alone.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Ogre on October 31, 2013, 04:08:04 PM
Despite those artificial "advantages", if white hetero male shows up (and can refrain from drooling on himself and has managed to avoid any involvement with the judicial system...also easy for HWM), HE likely gets the job.

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Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
Have you ever applied for a job at the post office? It is there and places of the like where you will find out quickly that they put white males right below snake shit on the hiring ladder.

But let's go with your argument here - You're also assuming HWM gets the job because he is simply HWM. HWMs also tend to be more qualified and educated in general. So are Asians. Maybe that's why HWM got the job you speak of. In the event of a tie however, the woman or minority is going to get that job simply for being just that.

And I'm not trying to pick an argument with you or anything. I just don't think it's as simple as you stated in your first post. There are lots of variables at play. I've experienced it first hand.

HWM has to pay his own way to college for the most part. Unless dirt poor, no grants. Not for simply being HWM. No UNCF.

HWM doesn't get exemptions in re to college admissions. If I want to get in, I have to make the score. Because of quotas that's not the case with non HWM.

There is no law saying quota has to be met for hiring HWM.

And on and on.

There is such a shit ton of help out there for non HWM. Which more than offsets any advantage HWM has from his historical reputation and perception alone.

Just to be clear:  you assert that there is no advantage to being HWM?

Follow up question:  would you give it up?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 31, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
Have you ever applied for a job at the post office? It is there and places of the like where you will find out quickly that they put white males right below snake shit on the hiring ladder.

^^ Agree, all Gubment/state and city.

But let's go with your argument here - You're also assuming HWM gets the job because he is simply HWM. HWMs also tend to be more qualified and educated in general. So are Asians. Maybe that's why HWM got the job you speak of. In the event of a tie however, the woman or minority is going to get that job simply for being just that.


Gonna slightly disagree based on who I talk with and the way we approach hiring here. I know a lot of friends who are in management (Hiring area) are almost afraid of hiring minorities to a certain extent. Once hired if you fire them you are almost always looking at a law suit or discrimination suit. By taking a less qualified HWM you may have some issue with work ethic but you avoid the long term legal entanglement.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 31, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
Just to be clear:  you assert that there is no advantage to being HWM?

I'll answer from my perspective: The reason I am successful is because my parents worked hard and made a better life for themselves and me which they passed on to me. (Both parents picked cotton at one time back in the day) Neither one of my parents graduated high school.

Follow up question:  would you give it up?

Why do I have to give up something? Why is there is some reason that HWM is the person who must give up something? Why can't the other person just get better?  Nick Marshall is a better football player than I am what is he going to give up so I can play football for Auburn. I could be Clint M II.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
Why do I have to give up something? Why is there is some reason that HWM is the person who must give up something? Why can't the other person just get better?  Nick Marshall is a better football player than I am what is he going to give up so I can play football for Auburn. I could be Clint M II.

Obviously athletics are one arena where statistical results trump whitey status.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: CCTAU on October 31, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
Perfect example of the way of thinking that created this training manual in the first place.
 
If you are white and you are embarrased about it, keep it to yourself. The rest of us are not embarrassed and see no reason to "even the odds".
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 31, 2013, 04:35:32 PM
Obviously athletics are one arena where statistical results trump whitey status.

Is it because their better or work harder? A little of both?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2013, 05:17:35 PM
Is it because their better or work harder? A little of both?

The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back, and they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs and he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War when during the slave trade, the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.

Sincerely, Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder  January 6, 1988
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2013, 06:16:33 PM
Perfect example of the way of thinking that created this training manual in the first place.
 
If you are white and you are embarrased about it, keep it to yourself. The rest of us are not embarrassed and see no reason to "even the odds".

I'm not saying anyone should be embarrassed.  I'm not advocating affirmative action.  I'm just saying that in this day and age, in this country, if you don't admit that being a hetero, white male brings you substantial advantage, then you're being deliberately obtuse.

Is it because their better or work harder? A little of both?

It's because sports statistics are one of the last pure metrics of performance.  That's all.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Saniflush on November 01, 2013, 07:00:13 AM
Follow up question:  would you give it up?

Just to have an extra muscle?  nah.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 01, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
I'm not saying anyone should be embarrassed.  I'm not advocating affirmative action.  I'm just saying that in this day and age, in this country, if you don't admit that being a hetero, white male brings you substantial advantage, then you're being deliberately obtuse.



And what most of us are saying is that if you don't admit that there is a concerted effort to level the playing field by pulling white people down rather than lifting others up then you are being deliberately obtuse.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2013, 10:55:20 AM
And what most of us are saying is that if you don't admit that there is a concerted effort to level the playing field by pulling white people down rather than lifting others up then you are being deliberately obtuse.

True.

But geometry has no place in this argument.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 01, 2013, 10:59:08 AM
True.

But geometry has no place in this argument.
The white arabs invented it. It belongs.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
The white arabs invented it. It belongs.

Are they similar to white Latinos?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 01, 2013, 11:05:21 AM
And what most of us are saying is that if you don't admit that there is a concerted effort to level the playing field by pulling white people down rather than lifting others up then you are being deliberately obtuse.

That would never happen  :facepalm:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/14856-school-cancels-honors-night-to-avoid-hurt-feelings (http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/14856-school-cancels-honors-night-to-avoid-hurt-feelings)

A Massachusetts school principal has cancelled his school’s Honors Night in the belief that it would cause students who are not receiving an award to feel self-conscious and disappointed in themselves. According to Principal David Fabrizio of Ipswich Middle School, Honors Night could be “devastating” to the students who worked hard, but did not earn good enough grades to receive an award.

"The Honors Night, which can be a great sense of pride for the recipients' families, can also be devastating to a child who has worked extremely hard in a difficult class but who, despite growth, has not been able to maintain a high grade-point average," Fabrizio penned in a letter to parents.

Fabrizio asserted that he decided to cancel because academic success is often contingent upon support at home, which not all students are lucky enough to have.

Predictably, many parents are angered by the principal’s decision. "It's been a tradition in Ipswich, and you're very proud as a parent to see your child, as well as some of the other children who made, really, some great efforts," said one of the parents, Dave Morin.

“I am mortified at the comments Mr. Fabrizio made,” Facebook user Patti Rairden wrote on Wednesday. “Accomplishments should be recognized. They encourage more strides toward excellence.”

Another user, Joey Tiberio, wrote that it’s people like Fabrizio “that are killing this country.”

“Maybe it would encourage other students to work harder,” Nancy H. Murphy DelSignore wrote, referring to keeping Honors Night.

In response to criticism, Fabrizio defensively responded that he will include the honors ceremony in an end-of-the-year assembly where students will be recognized in front of the student body, rather than in a separate evening in front of families only.

“Ipswich Middle School is dedicated to high achievement in every facet of our students’ lives. We did not cancel honors recognition as erroneously reported by FOX News Boston,” he wrote. “We changed our Honors Night from an exclusive ceremony at night to an all-inclusive ceremony during the day in the presence of the entire student body.”

He continued, seemingly contradicting the letter he sent to parents explaining the change, “This isn’t the dumbing down of America. This isn’t everyone getting a trophy. The same kids who were honored before are being honored now.”

He now asserts that the change is an improvement because it will allow the students who have achieved good grades to be honored for their success and serve as positive examples to their peers. “We had a situation where our best students were being honored exclusively away from the rest of the school. The problem was, those who needed that motivation weren’t there,” Fabrizio told the IPSwich Chronicle.

Yet if the students who excelled were honored in a separate ceremony away from the other students, would that not actually prove to be less “devastating” to the students who don't get the awards, according to the principal's logic?

TheBlaze countered Fabrizio's new position: “On the flip side, there’s also the fact that holding an evening event was special and offered children who deserve praise the necessary accolades. By simply merging this event with the larger, end-of-year assembly, the unique nature of the awards disappears.”

The entire ordeal is reminiscent of the popular children’s film, The Incredibles, wherein superheroes were forced to go into hiding because their presence made average citizens feel inadequate. In an effort to abide by the new rules, the superhero mother tried teaching her superhero children to hide their heroic abilities, much to the chagrin of her children. During a heated discussion on the subject with her son, the mother argued, “Everybody’s special,” to which he astutely replied, “Which is another way of saying nobody’s special.”

Similar politically correct efforts to guard students from any negativity are pervading education systems across the world and are interfering with children’s educational development, as well as social development. In the United Kingdom, teachers are banning children from having best friends, forcing them instead to play in large groups.

"I have noticed that teachers tell children they shouldn’t have a best friend and that everyone should play together," U.K.-based psychologist Gaynor Sbuttoni told The Sun. "They are doing it because they want to save the child the pain of splitting up from their best friend. But it is natural for some children to want a best friend. If they break up, they have to feel the pain because they're learning to deal with it."

While the effort is being touted as a means to protect students from hurt feelings, some psychologists believe that hurt feelings are a necessary component of growth. “I don’t see how you can stop people from forming close friendships. We make and lose friends throughout our lives,” asserts the organization The Campaign for Real Education, which advocates for more parental choice in state education. It adds that the “ridiculous” policy was robbing children of their childhood.

Spokesman Chris McGovern notes, “Children take things very seriously and if you tell them they can’t have a best friend it can be seriously damaging to them. They need to learn about relationships.”

A school district in Maryland outlawed hugs, classroom treats on birthdays, and handing out of party invitations at school if the entire class is not included.

All the political correctness prompted The Inquisitr to write:

Trying to sanitize our children’s lives from every harsh reality of life is both futile and counterproductive. Learning how to deal with little stumbling blocks prepares children for the hurdles they will face later on. I very distinctly remember my Dad explaining to us at an early age that life wasn’t fair. As a result, we never stomped our feet or threatened to hold our breath until our faces turned blue because of some perceived injustice that blatantly flew in the face of fairness.

Ipswich Middle School is just another fatality in the war on “hurt feelings” in our schools. The end-of-year assembly, which will now include the handing out of honor’s awards, is tentatively scheduled for the week of June 17.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2013, 11:07:38 AM
^^ that right there. This mentality IS the issue. Victicrat, empathy, what's in it for me, entitlement society....whatever you want to call.

We. Are. Fucked. It's a cradle to grave philosophy. And it's not normal human nature to have a govt body do this. It just isn't.  I see no coming back from this.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Godfather on November 01, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
Can you be a minority woman?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 01, 2013, 12:19:03 PM
Can you be a minority woman?
I would put VV at about 40%. Yes.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on November 01, 2013, 02:35:37 PM
And what most of us are saying is that if you don't admit that there is a concerted effort to level the playing field by pulling white people down rather than lifting others up then you are being deliberately obtuse.

Ok.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Godfather on November 01, 2013, 03:27:13 PM
Ok.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/obtuse.png)
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 01, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/obtuse.png)

He's right
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 01, 2013, 03:42:08 PM
He's right
To a degree.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Ok.

Survey says....

(http://randomarticleproject.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/081309_harmon_leon_family_feud_05.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: wesfau2 on November 01, 2013, 03:58:41 PM
Survey says....

(http://randomarticleproject.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/081309_harmon_leon_family_feud_05.jpg)

Fer chrissake...I agreed with your argument that had zero affiliation with what I said.  Total non-sequitur.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2013, 04:09:27 PM
Fer chrissake...I agreed with your argument that had zero affiliation with what I said.  Total non-sequitur.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh c'mon man. Weez jus funnin.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: CCTAU on November 01, 2013, 04:12:36 PM
He's right

Correct...as in angle.
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: Godfather on November 01, 2013, 04:15:24 PM
Fer chrissake...I agreed with your argument that had zero affiliation with what I said.  Total non-sequitur.

Can you tell me where the Bryant Street Theater is?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: AWK on November 01, 2013, 04:20:18 PM
What kind of a bum fuck shit town is this?
Title: Re: It's Awesome Being in the White Male Club!
Post by: DnATL on November 01, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
To a degree.
but he has zero complement