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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: WiregrassTiger on October 10, 2013, 05:05:13 PM
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Chatter is that JJ will start and Marshall won't play because of his knee this week. If this is true and JJ plays a lot, I know that he will lose red shirt. Wondering though, is there a specific number of plays that one must play in order to lose it? I thought that it was 1 play but in a discussion with a friend, he didn't think that is the case.
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Link? I saw Fake Gabe Wright tweeted that, but I don't trust him.
Here's my optimistic opinion:
If NM is out for Western Carolina and JJ starts, that means Gus has very high hopes and high expectations for what we can accomplish THIS season. Even if Frazier started at QB, we'd roll over Western Carolina, so burning a redshirt on JJ would seem like a waste. However, if Gus is afraid of losing NM for the A&M game, that means Gus believes we can win with JJ at QB and wants to make sure he uses this game as a means of getting him experience.
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Chatter is that JJ will start and Marshall won't play because of his knee this week. If this is true and JJ plays a lot, I know that he will lose red shirt. Wondering though, is there a specific number of plays that one must play in order to lose it? I thought that it was 1 play but in a discussion with a friend, he didn't think that is the case.
Sometimes things are lost in translation.
They have talked about a redshirt for Justin Garrett even though Garrett played some. In reality they meant a medical redshirt which he can apply for as long as it is before game 3.
The "true" Redshirt (or what you are referring to) for playing time is zero. A player cannot participate in a single ballgame. Doing so removes that redshirt.
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Did a little looking and really can't find a definitive answer. I saw everything from, "Can't play after the first three games of the season" to "Can't play in more than 20% of the games." I tend to think at this point, if he plays JJ, the RS is off.
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Link? I saw Fake Gabe Wright tweeted that, but I don't trust him.
Here's my optimistic opinion:
If NM is out for Western Carolina and JJ starts, that means Gus has very high hopes and high expectations for what we can accomplish THIS season. Even if Frazier started at QB, we'd roll over Western Carolina, so burning a redshirt on JJ would seem like a waste. However, if Gus is afraid of losing NM for the A&M game, that means Gus believes we can win with JJ at QB and wants to make sure he uses this game as a means of getting him experience.
Link? Do you think I get my info from internet sources buddy? You obviously don't know that I have my finger on the pulse at AU but that's o.k.
I talked with someone today ON THE STAFF that told me this was likely the scenario. O.K., not true. But I don't have a link, other than sausage. I just heard it from a friend. Who heard it from a friend. Who may have heard it from another that you've been messin' around and that would really disappoint me.
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Did a little looking and really can't find a definitive answer. I saw everything from, "Can't play after the first three games of the season" to "Can't play in more than 20% of the games." I tend to think at this point, if he plays JJ, the RS is off.
This is wrong, what you are talking about is for a medical redshirt only.
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Link? Do you think I get my info from internet sources buddy? You obviously don't know that I have my finger on the pulse at AU but that's o.k.
I talked with someone today ON THE STAFF that told me this was likely the scenario. O.K., not true. But I don't have a link, other than sausage. I just heard it from a friend. Who heard it from a friend. Who may have heard it from another that you've been messin' agound and that would really disappoint me.
You need to take it on the run if that's the way you want it.
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This is wrong, what you are talking about is for a medical redshirt only.
No Colonel Sanders. You're wrong.
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You need to take it on the run if that's the way you want it.
Then I don't want you around. I don't believe it . Not for a minute.
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I'm thinking that it's something like if he plays for any reason, the redshirt is off. If he plays part of the season and gets hurt, can apply for a medical and there is a chance it's granted. So, GF's explaination is what I thought and Snagg's is prob the definition of a medical.
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Link? I saw Fake Gabe Wright tweeted that, but I don't trust him.
Here's my optimistic opinion:
If NM is out for Western Carolina and JJ starts, that means Gus has very high hopes and high expectations for what we can accomplish THIS season. Even if Frazier started at QB, we'd roll over Western Carolina, so burning a redshirt on JJ would seem like a waste. However, if Gus is afraid of losing NM for the A&M game, that means Gus believes we can win with JJ at QB and wants to make sure he uses this game as a means of getting him experience.
Is Jonathan Wallace dead?
I see zero justification in burning Johnson's redshirt for Western friggin Kentucky.
Only reason I could see it justified is if we were playing an SEC team, or God Forbid we tried Johnson and were losing to WKU. Like you said, even Frazier should not look completely retarded against WKU.
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Is Jonathan Wallace dead?
I see zero justification in burning Johnson's redshirt for Western friggin Kentucky.
Only reason I could see it justified is if we were playing an SEC team, or God Forbid we tried Johnson and were losing to WKU. Like you said, even Frazier should not look completely retarded against WKU.
Western friggin fraggin Carolina actually.
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Is Jonathan Wallace dead?
I see zero justification in burning Johnson's redshirt for Western friggin Kentucky.
Only reason I could see it justified is if we were playing an SEC team, or God Forbid we tried Johnson and were losing to WKU. Like you said, even Frazier should not look completely retarded against WKU.
If we were 1-4, I wouldn't want to consider burning it. 4-1 and looking like Thuga and Bama are beatable makes me look at it different.
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Western friggin fraggin Carolina actually.
Frickidy frickidy frickidy frack.
That's what I meant. The Hilltoppers actually would put up a limp-wristed fight.
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YES!!!!! Play your best 22...ALWAYS. If the Freshman is the better 2nd string QB and the 1st string QB goes down...you play the Freshman. Jeremy Johnson needs to get his feet wet in a real game before being thrown to the Wolves, if Marshall gets dinged up again.
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YES!!!!! Play your best 22...ALWAYS. If the Freshman is the better 2nd string QB and the 1st string QB goes down...you play the Freshman. Jeremy Johnson needs to get his feet wet in a real game before being thrown to the Wolves, if Marshall gets dinged up again.
Agreed...
...but then again, you're talking about burning a redshirt on a quarterback who already will be sitting out another year against a patty cake cupcake team in Western Carolina.
... ... but then again then again, if JJ is a legit SEC quarterback, then he most likely won't want to start more than two years any way.
..............though Aaron Murray could have left early and didn't.
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Agreed...
...but then again, you're talking about burning a redshirt on a quarterback who already will be sitting out another year against a patty cake cupcake team in Western Carolina.
... ... but then again then again, if JJ is a legit SEC quarterback, then he most likely won't want to start more than two years any way.
..............though Aaron Murray could have left early and didn't.
There are no guarantees. We might not have Marshall next season for various reasons nor should anyone expect Johnson to thrill us any longer than he has to unless he decides otherwise. I just expect them all to leave ASAP.
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If Johnson is as good as advertised he won't be in Auburn for four years anyway. If Gus thinks he's good enough to play the rest of the season in spot duty or if Marshall gets hurt, a start on Saturday would be just what the doctor ordered.
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I'm thinking that it's something like if he plays for any reason, the redshirt is off. If he plays part of the season and gets hurt, can apply for a medical and there is a chance it's granted. So, GF's explaination is what I thought and Snagg's is prob the definition of a medical.
#PROCESS
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There are no guarantees. We might not have Marshall next season for various reasons nor should anyone expect Johnson to thrill us any longer than he has to unless he decides otherwise. I just expect them all to leave ASAP.
Kind of luck Sani and his dates - never a fifth-year high school senior, and they leave as early as possible, hopefully before the home-room bell)
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I think too many are focusing on this game. If Johnson plays Gus is getting him ready for more playing time this season. I for one think it should be done. Marshal has shown that he is not an accurate passer in every game this year. We beat Ole Miss with a one dimensional offense. We are about to get to the meat of our SEC schedule and are playing much better than anyone expected. Also Marshal is hurt, and with his size and how much he has to run to compensate for his lack of accuracy the chances of getting hurt against much tougher defenses coming up is pretty good.
Get Johnson ready to play even with a healthy Marshall if Johnson shows he can run the offense and add a passing attack, and our defense continues to improve we will have a chance in every game left. Johnson most likely won't be around for 5 years anyway.
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I'm with Prowler you play the best players available. Redshirt be damned. You never know what the future will hold and you can't count on anything except taxes and death.
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I'm with Prowler you play the best players available. Redshirt be damned. You never know what the future will hold and you can't count on anything except taxes, Gout and death.
Fixed
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I think too many are focusing on this game. If Johnson plays Gus is getting him ready for more playing time this season. I for one think it should be done. Marshal has shown that he is not an accurate passer in every game this year. We beat Ole Miss with a one dimensional offense. We are about to get to the meat of our SEC schedule and are playing much better than anyone expected. Also Marshal is hurt, and with his size and how much he has to run to compensate for his lack of accuracy the chances of getting hurt against much tougher defenses coming up is pretty good.
Get Johnson ready to play even with a healthy Marshall if Johnson shows he can run the offense and add a passing attack, and our defense continues to improve we will have a chance in every game left. Johnson most likely won't be around for 5 years anyway.
So if Johnson comes out and goes 14/15 for 3tds and no interceptions, do we expect him to start @A&M?
I do remember Stan White prior to the season saying that he thought Johnson could easily be our starting quarterback if the coaches trusted him to not make too many freshman mistakes. Said he looked like an NFL quarterback on the practice field.
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Fixed Gout
Pitted cherries, sir.
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Motherfuckin' gout.
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Don't like burning his redshirt to play western michigan.
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Offensive line play against Ole Miss was as good an effort as I've seen since 2010.
No guarantee our receivers get more vertical, run better patterns or have the wherewithal to help a freshman QB. There's not much chemistry developed or timing routes in this offense. But it's a good bet teams will scheme against us as with MSUs Prescott only wary of the deep balls to Coates.
We are going to find ourselves behind, playing catch-up and forced to throw with this tough road schedule. Uzomah back as an option should help. Defense playing well enough to hang and toughens in the redzone and we haven't been gassed.
We don't know anymore nor will we of NM's knee; good to go, recurring problem or in a brace.
"If I see a brace I'm fully expecting to see Johnson... as if NM had a concussion.
We do JJ no favors bringing him in down 10 at Kyle Field.
I think you treat each game like its your last.
:aubie:
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So if Johnson comes out and goes 14/15 for 3tds and no interceptions, do we expect him to start @A&M?
I do remember Stan White prior to the season saying that he thought Johnson could easily be our starting quarterback if the coaches trusted him to not make too many freshman mistakes. Said he looked like an NFL quarterback on the practice field.
That's a call to be made by coaches. Even if Johnson lights it up Saturday it is still against a non factor team. I just think that he should be given a chance and get some experience for the upcoming SEC teams. I honestly think that another QB will have to be played later this season. And if Gus does take the red shirt off Johnson chances are Marshall will not be ready for ATM.
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I'm with Prowler you play the best players available. Redshirt be damned. You never know what the future will hold and you can't count on anything except taxes and death.
And herpes in Bullock county.
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One play removes the redshirt.
Only play JJ if you intend to put him in every game at some point the rest I the season.
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One play removes the redshirt.
Only play JJ if you intend to put him in every game at some point the rest I the season.
Even if Nick were not hurt, I say play JJ. We don't need to be playing only for next season. We are 4-1. We aren't as strong as we have been and we aren't real deep but we can be dangerous. We need to prepare for the meat of our schedule and even if we come up short, it's good prep for next season.
Play for this season and use our weapons and just see what happens. There is not anyone on the schedule that we don't have a chance of beating if we play like we did against Ole Miss.
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Even if Nick were not hurt, I say play JJ. We don't need to be playing only for next season. We are 4-1. We aren't as strong as we have been and we aren't real deep but we can be dangerous. We need to prepare for the meat of our schedule and even if we come up short, it's good prep for next season.
Play for this season and use our weapons and just see what happens. There is not anyone on the schedule that we don't have a chance of beating if we play like we did against Ole Miss.
Because burning the redshirt worked out so well for Kodi and Kadrilla?
I have yet to see it done properly. Therefore, I have no confidence in seeing it done poorly again.
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Because burning the redshirt worked out so well for Kodi and Kadrilla?
I have yet to see it done properly. Therefore, I have no confidence in seeing it done poorly again.
Let's look at it this way. Who do we have the best chance to win with against a&m, arky, thuga and Bama if NM can't play? The answer to that question should be the guy that starts, imo. And I think we all agree that my opinion is the one that matters most.
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Let's look at it this way. Who do we have the best chance to win with against a&m, arky, thuga and Bama if NM can't play? The answer to that question should be the guy that starts, imo. And I think we all agree that my opinion is the one that matters most.
I'm sorry. You say something?
Now, the real deal is that I think Johnson (I just like saying Johnson) would have played already if we had been in a game where they felt comfortable bringing in the 2's. ASU was the biggest "blowout" and that game was still very competitive going into the 4th.
As for the "Johnson won't be here 4 years anyway" thing, I doubt that has any bearing on the decision to play him. If he showed any signs whatsoever of being a QB that just needed a couple of years experience to be NFL ready, he would have started from day 1. Yes, he's a tall, good looking athlete, but Nick Marshall beat him out for a reason...as inaccurate a passer as he is.
IF Johnson plays, my guess is they know J. Wallace is definitely not the long term answer if NM goes down for any length of time.
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You need to take it on the run if that's the way you want it.
What's next, Air Supply?
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What's next, Air Supply?
No, Jack Wagner
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What's next, Air Supply?
Overnight scenes, dinner and wine, Saturday girls.
Did just find out the game is not on pay-per view, but I could get it with the ESPN package they tried to sell me. I'll just watch on ESPN3.
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Because burning the redshirt worked out so well for Kodi and Kadrilla?
What does that have to do with the price of snuggles balls on the open market?
Real players play and rise to the occasion. The fact that players are redshirted or brought in early indicates nothing as to being good. Missing routes or not knowing a play book yes. Not being able to hit the broadside of an aircraft carrier had no bearing on them not getting redshirted.
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What does that have to do with the price of snuggles balls on the open market?
Real players play and rise to the occasion. The fact that players are redshirted or brought in early indicates nothing as to being good. Missing routes or not knowing a play book yes. Not being able to hit the broadside of an aircraft carrier had no bearing on them not getting redshirted.
Yeah. You keep believing that. If you burn a redshirt and then sit the player, you have accomplished nothing. If there is not a plan in place to burn the redshirt and give the player significant playing time, why bother? Wasn't CGM here when they burned Kadrilla's redshirt. He played sparingly and was not better off for it.
So why would I expect anything different with JJ? Like someone else already stated, if he were that close to being ready, he'd be on the field right now.
You guys for years seem to think that the earlier you get a guy in the better he will be. That is just not always the case. Do we have the one in ten thousand person in JJ? I have no idea. But I do know that it has not worked out well for us in the recent past in this category. But yet here we are again. "Burn the redshirt. Get him started early". Sounds very familiar.
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I totally agree on sticking with the RS if you don't have plans to use the player in some capacity the rest of the year. So, if they just want to get JJ some PT on a BLT against WCU, forget it. Start and play Wallace if Marshall can't go. With regard to Kweezel, I understand playing him in 2011. I get what they were trying to do with him because Malzahn's offense needs to have that run/pass threat at the QB position. I think the problem was once they got him reps there, they figured out he couldn't throw the rock at all, so he was reduced to snap and scramble every play.
I know he got criticized there too but somewhat in his defense, I think he'd have been much more successful behind the 2010 line than that rag-tag bunch we had in 2011.
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I know he got criticized there too but somewhat in his defense, I think he'd have been much more successful behind the 2010 line than that rag-tag bunch we had in 2011.
That very well may be, but it seemed the same type of thing happened with KB also. I just have no confidence in how we have brought along true freshmen QBs in the past. And we cannot say this is a new staff, because CGM was part of that process in the past.
If NM goes down for the year and they want to switch totally to JJ come hell or high water, then I am on board. Otherwise bring him along at a pace that when he enters, he is ready to take over.
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That very well may be, but it seemed the same type of thing happened with KB also. I just have no confidence in how we have brought along true freshmen QBs in the past. And we cannot say this is a new staff, because CGM was part of that process in the past.
If NM goes down for the year and they want to switch totally to JJ come hell or high water, then I am on board. Otherwise bring him along at a pace that when he enters, he is ready to take over.
This.
If JJ is playing in this game, that's a bad sign for NM's health on the rest of the year.
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This.
If JJ is playing in this game, that's a bad sign for NM's health on the rest of the year.
Article yesterday quoted Malzahn as saying Marshall was much better and they'd make a decision on Friday. It really sounds like he's dinged up and they're playing a HS they should beat by 40+. You gain nothing by putting Marshall out there is he's less than 100%. Only question is burning the RS on JJ.
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Article yesterday quoted Malzahn as saying Marshall was much better and they'd make a decision on Friday. It really sounds like he's dinged up and they're playing a HS they should beat by 40+. You gain nothing by putting Marshall out there is he's less than 100%. Only question is burning the RS on JJ.
That's what I'm saying. I would hope JW would get the nod. No risk involved. No reason not to let NM recharge if he's even 99% or less. JJ on the other hand, the only reason to burn his redshirt is if NM is going to be out more than one game against the school for the blind.
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This.
If JJ is playing in this game, that's a bad sign for NM's health on the rest of the year.
I can't make this connection. Maybe Nicks dinged up and they feel that he will be fine for the rest of the season AND they feel like JJ is ready to be the number two man that would give us the best shot to win in the second half of the season. We gotta have the best #2 option at qb ready in this O especially.
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The decision on whether to play injured quarterback Nick Marshall against Western Carolina will be made Friday morning.
Auburn coach Gus Malzahn revealed a timeframe for his upcoming decision on Marshall, who attended practice Thursday. Marshall injured his right knee in the second half of the Tigers' 30-22 victory against Ole Miss on Saturday.
Backups Jeremy Johnson and Jonathan Wallace "got the majority of the reps" in practice Thursday, Malzahn said on Tiger Talk radio, but he hasn't ruled out Marshall yet.
"We'll have one ready to go," Malzahn said. "There's no doubt about that."
Malzahn plans to meet with offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee on Friday morning and will then make a decision on Marshall. If Marshall is unable to play, they will then decide whether to start Wallace or rip the redshirt off of Johnson, a freshman.
"First of all Jeremy Johnson has gotten a lot of reps in practice, even fall camp, a lot of reps, and done extremely well," Malzahn said. "From a team standpoint, you do what gives you the best chance of winning. Like I said, we'll make that decision, probably, in the next 24 hours of what we're going to do Saturday with our quarterback situation."
Malzahn said Marshall's injury is not serious.
"Nick will definitely be OK and we'll see how he is tomorrow," Malzahn said.
RELATED: Breaking down Auburn's options at quarterback if Marshall does not play
Johnson pushed Marshall for the starting job in early August before coaches decided to go with the junior college transfer. Coaches have been high on him since his arrival on campus. Malzahn has more than once said Johnson has an "NFL arm."
Wallace started the final four games last season as a true freshman and has thrown two passes, completing one for 20 yards late in a 38-9 victory against Arkansas State in Week 2.
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"First of all Jeremy Johnson has gotten a lot of reps in practice, even fall camp, a lot of reps, and done extremely well," Malzahn said. "From a team standpoint, you do what gives you the best chance of winning. Like I said, we'll make that decision, probably, in the next 24 hours of what we're going to do Saturday with our quarterback situation."
Malzahn said Marshall's injury is not serious.
"Nick will definitely be OK and we'll see how he is tomorrow," Malzahn said.
RELATED: Breaking down Auburn's options at quarterback if Marshall does not play
Johnson pushed Marshall for the starting job in early August before coaches decided to go with the junior college transfer. Coaches have been high on him since his arrival on campus. Malzahn has more than once said Johnson has an "NFL arm."
Wallace started the final four games last season as a true freshman and has thrown two passes, completing one for 20 yards late in a 38-9 victory against Arkansas State in Week 2.
What I'm reading between the lines is that he's gonna play JJ regardless and I agree with it. We need him to compete against SEC competition this season.
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I can't make this connection. Maybe Nicks dinged up and they feel that he will be fine for the rest of the season AND they feel like JJ is ready to be the number two man that would give us the best shot to win in the second half of the season. We gotta have the best #2 option at qb ready in this O especially.
Even if he's a true #2. Wallace cannot be that far behind. We've seen what he can do and he's not completely inept. We're playing a team who lost to Citadel. A team that lost 63-23 to Samford. Not Stanford, Samford in Birmingham. Only win this year is against the mighty DII school I've never heard of, Mars Hill.
We could start Tucker Tuberville and should still win.
Why skip over two able-bodies QBs plus walkons against this pillow of a school?
The only reason to do that is if he's going to have to see more game time this year.
Otherwise, it is a tactical error to throw away a year of his eligibility.
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Even if he's a true #2. Wallace cannot be that far behind. We've seen what he can do and he's not completely inept. We're playing a team who lost to Citadel. A team that lost 63-23 to Samford. Not Stanford, Samford in Birmingham. Only win this year is against the mighty DII school I've never heard of, Mars Hill.
We could start Tucker Tuberville and should still win.
Why skip over two able-bodies QBs plus walkons against this pillow of a school?
The only reason to do that is if he's going to have to see more game time this year.
Otherwise, it is a tactical error to throw away a year of his eligibility.
I don't know. I saw JJ play hurt and he looked like a man among boys. He has a cannon and moved well for a hurt guy.
I'm not claiming to be a great scout or anything but I can say that he looked like he has the potential that you don't see in most HS players. And then he has people that actually do know what they are talking about saying that he has an NFL caliber arm.
I'm not saying I don't like Wallace. I do. But if JJ gives us the best shot to win this season--even at number 2--I say play him.
Oh, and I think it's very likely our number 2 will see more pt this year and not in mop up.
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I don't know. I saw JJ play hurt and he looked like a man among boys. He has a cannon and moved well for a hurt guy.
I'm not claiming to be a great scout or anything but I can say that he looked like he has the potential that you don't see in most HS players. And then he has people that actually do know what they are talking about saying that he has an NFL caliber arm.
I'm not saying I don't like Wallace. I do. But if JJ gives us the best shot to win this season--even at number 2--I say play him.
Oh, and I think it's very likely our number 2 will see more pt this year and not in mop up.
Really what does this season matter? We're not going to the SEC championship game, we're not going to a BCS bowl, but we have the chance to do that in the next two-four years when it might be nice to have Johnson fully rounded into form.
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Really what does this season matter? We're not going to the SEC championship game, we're not going to a BCS bowl, but we have the chance to do that in the next two-four years when it might be nice to have Johnson fully rounded into form.
#1, I say we are 4-1 and very much in the running for the SEC west. Likely? No. Possible? Absodamnlutely. Roll them bones. We can be dangerous.
And b., as you point out re when we are more likely to compete. I say next year we have a better shot than this. Even if that's the case, there is no substitute for game experience and we need to be 2 deep in any offense but ESP one that runs the qb this much. Use our best guy. It looks like we have another good qb coming in this class but its all a gamble.
I think most people are selling us short this year and I don't see that as a sound reason to not play JJ. The risk/reward works for me.
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Really this is more about the now or the SEC opponents. It's about playing an injured or hurt WV at maybe 75% not who is better. That was decided at fall practice. hi might have a cannon but our receivers still have to run the routes and catch what's thrown. Plus, can Johnson run for 100 against a good team? No probably not.
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Really this is more about the now or the SEC opponents. It's about playing an injured or hurt WV at maybe 75% not who is better. That was decided at fall practice. hi might have a cannon but our receivers still have to run the routes and catch what's thrown. Plus, can Johnson run for 100 against a good team? No probably not.
I don't know what a hurt WV is, but I say don't play him.
BTDub....Johnson can run. Watching the 2 in practice, JJ is not as quick as WV....I mean NM... with a sudden change of direction, but more like Cam. Tall with long strides and 20 yards downfield before you know it. Ran for 705 yards and 7 TD's as a senior.
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I don't know what a hurt WV is, but I say don't play him.
BTDub....Johnson can run. Watching the 2 in practice, JJ is not as quick as WV....I mean NM... with a sudden change of direction, but more like Cam. Tall with long strides and 20 yards downfield before you know it. Ran for 705 yards and 7 TD's as a senior.
Yeah posting from phone and it autocorrected,
Anything we can do to improve our standing is what I'm for. And to get there we need to be at full strength. Not saying we will win nine or ten games but this could make a difference toward that end. I expect A Malzahn QB to play one season (keed) but would be thrilled to have more. You remember what happened preseason to Trotter so we take nothing for granted.
I'm not doubting JJ's potential as a runner just haven't seen him run at all. So I look forward to it. I do see some similarities (field sight) between Cam and NM. Obviously the size and strides are different but both are very smooth in traffic.
I just don't want to see NM in a knee brace trying to play gimped up and risking further damage in any game. Rather see JJ tomorrow (with Wallace) getting game experience for SEC play.
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Even if he's a true #2. Wallace cannot be that far behind. We've seen what he can do and he's not completely inept. We're playing a team who lost to Citadel. A team that lost 63-23 to Samford. Not Stanford, Samford in Birmingham. Only win this year is against the mighty DII school I've never heard of, Mars Hill.
Could this be a stat padding game for Jake?
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Could this be a stat padding game for Jake?
Saw him make a tackle, paused it re-watched it and I'll be ding-dang he made the tackle again, watched it a third time a Jake missed it that time.
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Saw him make a tackle, paused it re-watched it and I'll be ding-dang he made the tackle again, watched it a third time a Jake missed it that time.
I'm telling you, Jake's gonna get a timely pick six when we just have to have one...yes I'll have another IPA thank-you dear.
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I'm telling you, Jake's gonna get a timely pick six when we just have to have one...yes I'll have another IPA thank-you dear.
I'll put a case of your favorite beer against mine.
Hell I give you double odds on how many solo tackles.
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I'll put a case of your favorite beer against mine.
Hell I give you double odds on how many solo tackles.
Hold on now...Jake might make JFF leap over him maybe a dozen times thus tiring the former Heisman winner. Solos are not one of Jake's strengths however I believe Jake WILL save the day in an SEC contest that gives us a victory. I'm thirsty, what do you say?
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Hold on now...Jake might make JFF leap over him maybe a dozen times thus tiring the former Heisman winner. Solos are not one of Jake's strengths however I believe Jake WILL save the day in an SEC contest that gives us a victory. I'm thirsty, what do you say?
Only if the incoming bus runs over him and they miss the game.
But I am up for whatever bet you want to make?
I'm a beer guy only but I am sure we can find some middle ground if you like something else.
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Only if the incoming bus runs over him and they miss the game.
But I am up for whatever bet you want to make?
I'm a beer guy only but I am sure we can find some middle ground if you like something else.
Sorry, this isn't pool and I don't feel the need to sandbag either. I used to think I could handle hard liquor but that is no longer the case. Holland WILL get a pick six to seal a win for Auburn. Otherwise I should be getting a rsizeable handicap no matter the stakes.
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Hold on now...Jake might make JFF leap over him maybe a dozen times thus tiring the former Heisman winner. Solos are not one of Jake's strengths however I believe Jake WILL save the day in an SEC contest that gives us a victory. I'm thirsty, what do you say?
There's something to be said for Jake moving to QB, I'm just sayin'. At least that's the new rumor I started today.
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There's something to be said for Jake moving to QB, I'm just sayin'. At least that's the new rumor I started today.
Will you please give me SOMETHING even my crazy ass can understand. I beseech thee!
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FOTW JJ.
(http://ANOTHER SEC FRESHMAN OF THE WEEK! Auburn quarterback Jeremy Johnson has been named the SEC Freshman of the Week after throwing for 201 yards and four touchdowns against Western Carolina, his college debut. Auburn defensive end Carl Lawson won the same award last week. [url=http://auburn.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=423&tid=167506804&mid=167506804&sid=884&style=2]http://auburn.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=423&tid=167506804&mid=167506804&sid=884&style=2[/url])
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Yeah. You keep believing that. If you burn a redshirt and then sit the player, you have accomplished nothing. If there is not a plan in place to burn the redshirt and give the player significant playing time, why bother? Wasn't CGM here when they burned Kadrilla's redshirt. He played sparingly and was not better off for it.
So why would I expect anything different with JJ? Like someone else already stated, if he were that close to being ready, he'd be on the field right now.
You guys for years seem to think that the earlier you get a guy in the better he will be. That is just not always the case. Do we have the one in ten thousand person in JJ? I have no idea. But I do know that it has not worked out well for us in the recent past in this category. But yet here we are again. "Burn the redshirt. Get him started early". Sounds very familiar.
You totally missed my point. So you think that Kadizil would be a better QB if we hadn't burnt his redshirt year?
I will give you my answer that after two years he made no improvements, burning his redshirt should have helped him not hurt him. He was a bust as a QB plain and simple, it happens. The fact that we decided to use him as a true freshman instead of having him sit a year has no bearing on that.
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You totally missed my point. So you think that Kadizil would be a better QB if we hadn't burnt his redshirt year?
I will give you my answer that after two years he made no improvements, burning his redshirt should have helped him not hurt him. He was a bust as a QB plain and simple, it happens. The fact that we decided to use him as a true freshman instead of having him sit a year has no bearing on that.
The way they used him early and may not have focused on the things he needed, but only on the things he was doing (mildcat) probably contributed to his demise. Then the he had new offense and coordinators to contend with. Sometimes throwing a guy in early does not help.