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Title: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 15, 2013, 03:24:45 PM
So three juveniles were arrested yesterday for leaving homemade acid bombs in a WalMarks parking lot here in the upscale burb where I work.

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Three boys have been taken into custody in connection with a rash of acid bomb incidents in The Woodlands that injured a resident.
 
Several tips from the public led Montgomery County fire investigators to the juveniles last weekend, who were seen on store surveillance footage buying materials used to make the nine improvised explosive devices, according to Fire Marshal Jimmy Williams.
 
Investigators located nine acid bombs near the western edge of The Woodlands in the area of FM 2878 and Woodlands Parkway. Evidence was recovered at the scenes.
 
A resident suffered minor injuries when he picked up one of the devices and it exploded, Williams said. He "saw a bottle and reached down to pick it up and it went off in his hand."
 
The devices were made from small plastic bottles filled with chemicals and foil or metal objects. A chemical reaction occurs when the devices are shaken and thrown, resulting in the violent rupture of the plastic containers.
 
The juvenile suspects have been referred to the Montgomery County Justice Center.
 
"The investigation will continue to determine if others were involved," Williams stated in a press release.

In addition to whatever happens to them in court, their parents also need to take action.  These three are just chilluns, and I'm sure they didn't mean to do it.  They have to be very good kids from very good families, as this is a very affluent suburb (I mean, the lawyer who cares even has family that lives in The Woodlands, and we know he's stinking filthy rich)  No one was seriously injured so I think their punishment needs to be carefully considered.

So, carefully considering, if you are their parent, do you pull the nails out of the two by four before you beat them with it or not?  Or do you just use an ax handle and call it happy?

These days I look at this in the context of "Oh, shit what if this was my kid?"  I know that it used to be that the juvies were just that - juvies.  The bad kid, the bad seed, the rotten apple from the broken home full of drug users and alcoholics.  But these days, it seems that any kid, no matter how they are raised, can be the bad kid - from learning and doing shit off the internet to Jackass movies to just being bored or having working parents who can't supervise 24/7 - it doesn't take much for something bad to happen and their lives be ruined before they start.  Good homes, good parents, smart kids - it doesn't seem to matter anymore.  Just makes me even more paranoid about mine than ever, even though I know they are being raised right.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2013, 03:34:23 PM
I just sent a text out The Woodlands way.  I read this and thought, Naaaaa......wait, maybe.  I better check. 

They have a 14 year old who will do anything, try anything and has no fear of injury or repercussions.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 15, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
I just sent a text out The Woodlands way.  I read this and thought, Naaaaa......wait, maybe.  I better check. 

They have a 14 year old who will do anything, try anything and has no fear of injury or repercussions.

And they have an award for him:  Darwin
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Saniflush on August 15, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
I know we live in a different time now but a vendor and I were talking about this just the other day.  My ass would have been put under the jail for all the pipe bombs and homemade napalm I made as a kid.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 15, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
I know we live in a different time now but a vendor and I were talking about this just the other day.  My ass would have been put under the jail for all the pipe bombs and homemade napalm I made as a kid.

Maybe so, but did you ever make one and leave it in a local store's parking lot knowing that it could blow up and hurt someone or damage property?

Doing this at home and maybe getting the cops called on you by a neighbor because you blow up a fence -that's kids being kids.

Doing what they did, where they did it?  No way did they not know what they were doing.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Saniflush on August 15, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
Well no but we didn't live in town.  Not condoning them at all just knowing that I would have been thrown under the jail these days just with the stuff I did.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: djsimp on August 15, 2013, 03:57:49 PM
So three juveniles were arrested yesterday for leaving homemade acid bombs in a WalMarks parking lot here in the upscale burb where I work.

You work in a Wal-Mart parking lot?
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2013, 04:16:02 PM
I've talked about being the keeper of the cul-de-sac and going all Zimmerman on anyone who drives past my house at night.  We had what turned out to be a couple young guys, about 16-17 going down to the end of the road and blowing up moltov cocktails.  Finally saw who I thought it was and got the tag number in case they came back.  Sure enough, they did.  This time I saw them blow it up.  Caught the grass on fire as they sped out of the neighborhood.  I called the Tokens and there were several Token-mobiles and two fire trucks that came out there.  Stayed down there for over an hour, I assume collecting evidence.

Long story short, with reference to what Sani was saying, in talking with one of the officers and giving them the tag number, he said they may think it was kids being kids but this now falls into the area of terrorist activities.  I was like, "Whoa, I used to blow up mailboxes and shit with M-80's.  I'm not trying to put these kids in jail.  Just don't want them down there anymore."  He did tell me they'd just put the fear of God in them and not much more, but the point being, you pull the shit we used to as kids, you just might wind up in Federal Pound-You-In-The-Ass Prison.   
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 15, 2013, 04:19:17 PM
I know we live in a different time now but a vendor and I were talking about this just the other day.  My ass would have been put under the jail for all the pipe bombs and homemade napalm I made as a kid.

I guess I was a dumbass as a kid, I would not have known where to get the shit to make that.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2013, 04:21:44 PM
I guess I was a dumbass as a kid, I would not have known where to get the shit to make that.

At Books-A-Million.  Duh!!!  Napalm and Pipe Bombs for Dummies.  I got the hard copy
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 15, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
At Books-A-Million.  Duh!!!  Napalm and Pipe Bombs for Dummies.  I got the hard copy

Tried to avoid while growing up. Prolly why I ended up doing that Army thing.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2013, 04:26:19 PM
Tried to avoid while growing up. Prolly why I ended up doing that Army thing.

They sold it on 8-Track too.
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 15, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
They sold it on 8-Track too.

The good parts would prolly be on the click in between tracks. 
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: CCTAU on August 15, 2013, 04:32:58 PM
So three juveniles were arrested yesterday for leaving homemade acid bombs in a WalMarks parking lot here in the upscale burb where I work.

In addition to whatever happens to them in court, their parents also need to take action.  These three are just chilluns, and I'm sure they didn't mean to do it.  They have to be very good kids from very good families, as this is a very affluent suburb (I mean, the lawyer who cares even has family that lives in The Woodlands, and we know he's stinking filthy rich)  No one was seriously injured so I think their punishment needs to be carefully considered.

So, carefully considering, if you are their parent, do you pull the nails out of the two by four before you beat them with it or not?  Or do you just use an ax handle and call it happy?

These days I look at this in the context of "Oh, shit what if this was my kid?"  I know that it used to be that the juvies were just that - juvies.  The bad kid, the bad seed, the rotten apple from the broken home full of drug users and alcoholics.  But these days, it seems that any kid, no matter how they are raised, can be the bad kid - from learning and doing shit off the internet to Jackass movies to just being bored or having working parents who can't supervise 24/7 - it doesn't take much for something bad to happen and their lives be ruined before they start.  Good homes, good parents, smart kids - it doesn't seem to matter anymore.  Just makes me even more paranoid about mine than ever, even though I know they are being raised right.

I'll say this. If your child ever gets mixed up in a prank(idiot decision) like this, NEVER TRUST THE AUTHORITIES!

If you want to beat the hell out of your kid, do it once you have gotten him off. The people in the DAs office only care about convictions and closing a case. The giveth a shitteth not for your child.

When we were growing up, you would have help form the authorities to teach a kid a lesson. Not today. The police know that they will be sued around every corner, so they turn everything over the DA. And  the DA does not care. The people in the juvenile court system are looking to get out of it as soon as they can. And to do that, they need to close cases and get convictions. 

These boys need to shit beat out of them and they need be in the victim's yard cleaning up and cutting grass every day for a long time. But none of this will happen. They will get probation and no lesson will be learned. But the case will be closed!
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on August 15, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
I guess I was a dumbass as a kid, I would not have known where to get the shoot to make that.

From the Army/Navy store.

http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Army-Improvised-Munitions-Handbook/dp/1616083840/ref=pd_cp_b_0

And from the public library.

http://www.amazon.com/Steal-This-Book-Abbie-Hoffman/dp/156858217X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376598659&sr=8-1&keywords=steal+this+book

Lot's of information on that second one about how to make homemade stuff that will go boom.  Also teaches you stuff like yelling "I have VD" while get raped in prison.  I mean now we have VV for that information but where was kid supposed to find that out before the internet?
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 15, 2013, 05:32:09 PM
where was kid supposed to find that out before the internet?

Nam vets, Jack.

Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: Tiger Wench on August 15, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
I've talked about being the keeper of the cul-de-sac and going all Zimmerman on anyone who drives past my house at night.  We had what turned out to be a couple young guys, about 16-17 going down to the end of the road and blowing up moltov cocktails.  Finally saw who I thought it was and got the tag number in case they came back.  Sure enough, they did.  This time I saw them blow it up.  Caught the grass on fire as they sped out of the neighborhood.  I called the Tokens and there were several Token-mobiles and two fire trucks that came out there.  Stayed down there for over an hour, I assume collecting evidence.

Long story short, with reference to what Sani was saying, in talking with one of the officers and giving them the tag number, he said they may think it was kids being kids but this now falls into the area of terrorist activities.  I was like, "Whoa, I used to blow up mailboxes and shit with M-80's.  I'm not trying to put these kids in jail.  Just don't want them down there anymore."  He did tell me they'd just put the fear of God in them and not much more, but the point being, you pull the shit we used to as kids, you just might wind up in Federal Pound-You-In-The-Ass Prison.

Just like these kids taking nekkid pics of themselves and sharing them is now distribution of child porn.  Throw in the zero tolerance by authorities that CCT mentioned and a kid gets no chance these days to fuck up and learn from his mistakes.  Stuff like that follows you forever now - and not everyone should be a felon at 15.

I'd say look at Uncle Sani blowing shit up at 15 and see how he turned out, but...well, that ain't the best of examples, if you know him like we do...
Title: Re: Kids and Acid Bombs
Post by: DnATL on August 17, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
They have a 14 year old who will do anything, try anything and has no fear of injury or repercussions.
So did you get a pm from Uncle Sani asking if the 14 yo is a girl, and one from VV asking if its a boy?