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Title: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: AUChizad on April 16, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
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Reports: 'Major' violations occurred
Updated: April 16, 2013, 10:21 AM ET

Reports: Major Violations At Oregon

According to reports, documents released by the University of Oregon show the school and the NCAA agree "major" violations were committed by the football program.
Tags: Chip Kelly, Will Lyles, SportsCenter, major violations, football
Documents released by the University of Oregon show the school and the NCAA agree "major" violations were committed by the football program, both The Oregonian and Portland, Ore., television station KATU reported Monday.

The documents focus heavily on Will Lyles, who ran a recruiting and scouting service and has been widely reported to be at the center of the investigation, according to the reports. Most of the alleged violations cited occurred during the tenure of former Ducks coach Chip Kelly, who left Oregon in January to become the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Both The Oregonian and KATU received the documents after filing a public records request.

"There were underlying major violations coupled with failure to monitor violations involving the head coach (2009 through 2011) and the athletics department (2008-2011)," NCAA enforcement staff wrote in the report, according to KATU.

However, the documents also state NCAA enforcement staff said they had "no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct," key points when it comes time for punishment to be considered, KATU reported. Oregon is expected to appear before the NCAA's committee on infractions sometime this year.

The university gave a statement to The Oregonian on Monday night following the documents' release that read: "The review is ongoing until the NCAA Committee on Infractions issues its final report. The integrity of the process and our continued full cooperation with the NCAA prohibits us from publicly discussing the specifics of this matter."
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on April 16, 2013, 10:42:47 AM
Color me shocked that there was no reference to Auburn's recruitment of Seastrunk.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: djsimp on April 16, 2013, 10:48:03 AM
Color me shocked that there was no reference to Auburn's recruitment of Seastrunk.

I was fully expecting this. You can bet your ass that this will come up though.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: ssgaufan on April 16, 2013, 10:48:11 AM
There seems to be a pattern here, teams that are consistently at the top of the standings get busted for cheating (except bama).  USC, Ohio St, Oregon.  You CAN'T dominate college football year in and year out without cheating. 
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 16, 2013, 10:55:19 AM
Which is what the NCAA wanted with scholarship reductions and stringent recruiting guidelines. 

I'm surprised Alabama hasn't been hit yet.  They're trying to create parity in college football as best they can, and Alabama's success laughs at their attempts. 
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on April 16, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Somebody on ITAT:

Where is the outcry for Baylor to declare Seastrunk ineligible?
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: GH2001 on April 16, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
Somebody on ITAT:

Where is the outcry for Baylor to declare Seastrunk ineligible?
Freaking this ^^
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Townhallsavoy on April 16, 2013, 11:08:15 AM
Somebody on ITAT:

Where is the outcry for Baylor to declare Seastrunk ineligible?

He is ineligible.  Always has been because he cheated at Oregon, that thus piece of shit.

So Baylor never beat Kansas State, and Kansas State went on to beat Notre Dame in the BCSCG.  That's the way it happened. 
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: djsimp on April 16, 2013, 11:22:39 AM
Now, I'm curious as to what other schools will mentioned. Didn't LSU have some sort of dealings with Lyles also? Going off vague memory here.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 16, 2013, 02:25:05 PM
Now, I'm curious as to what other schools will mentioned. Didn't LSU have some sort of dealings with Lyles also? Going off vague memory here.

I believe they did! And I seem to remember a certain running back that is wearing a dark pink jersey under the Lyles fold too...but I'm sure he was squeaky clean.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Jumbo on April 16, 2013, 02:26:56 PM
Didn't we use Lyle also?
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Snaggletiger on April 16, 2013, 02:40:05 PM
What's all this fuss about Lyle Lovett?  I know we all questioned the marriage to Julia Roberts, but that's old news and he's kept his nose clean since then. 
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: djsimp on April 16, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
Didn't we use Lyle also?

Yeah, until the very moment we stopped cruiten Seashrunked. As I remember that came to a halt quick like.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: GH2001 on April 16, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
Yeah, until the very moment we stopped cruiten Seashrunked. As I remember that came to a halt quick like.

Correct. Same thing with Texas. All of a sudden both auburn and texas stopped recruiting him and around the same time.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 16, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
So, what yall are saying is that he will transfer to Alabama in a year?
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: djsimp on April 16, 2013, 03:38:25 PM
So, what yall are saying is that he will transfer to Alabama in a year?

With all A's, a brand new suit and a crimson colored Dodge Charger.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: dallaswareagle on April 16, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
So, what yall are saying is that he will transfer to Alabama in a year?

With all A's, a brand new suit and a crimson colored Dodge Charger.

And two additional years of eligibility, plus cash.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Pell City Tiger on April 16, 2013, 05:59:59 PM
And two additional years of eligibility, plus cash.
and a sweet housesitting gig for his mama.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Come Honor Face on April 16, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
And a fishing trip
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: The Prowler on April 17, 2013, 08:00:42 AM
Maybe the ESPN retards will dig deep on Mr. Lyles and put everything they find on him, on their website. Oh on a unrelated note: Will Lyles was tRent Richardson's handler too.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: Buzz Killington on April 17, 2013, 08:47:32 AM
Maybe the ESPN retards will dig deep on Mr. Lyles and put everything they find on him, on their website. Oh on a unrelated note: Will Lyles was tRent Richardson's handler too.
Hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: WiregrassTiger on April 17, 2013, 08:53:53 AM
and a sweet housesitting gig for his mama.
and a job at the univuhsity for his baby's momma.
Title: Re: TEAM IN 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME GUILTY OF MAJOR VIOLATIONS!!!
Post by: wesfau2 on April 17, 2013, 10:16:53 AM
Finally...someone not named Never To Yield is picking up the narrative:

Opinion: ESPN Demonizes Auburn While Other 2010 Contender Violates Rules

In January 2011, two teams faced off for the national championship. One has now admitted to "major infractions" and will be penalized by the NCAA, but the penalized team is not the one that would come to mind if one has followed college football coverage closely over the last few years.

At the very least, the University of Oregon is guilty of illegal phone calls to recruits, illegal payments to recruiting services, and an association with one of football's more dubious characters, Willie Lyles, who has admitted to assisting Oregon in obtaining the services of two running backs: LaMichael James and Lache Seastrunk.

While Oregon's acknowledgement of these major infractions has made news, it does not even come close to matching the time, energy, money, ink, internet space, and airtime ESPN has used to wage war on the other team playing in Tempe, Arizona in 2011--the Auburn Tigers. 

Throughout the 2010 football season, ESPN was aggressive and took repeated hard-line stances, without evidence, that Auburn was at fault in the scandal involving Cecil Newton and Mississippi State.

Recently, ESPN heavily pushed a story by Selena Roberts that alleges numerous improprieties by the university. Unfortunately for the major network, however, the only people standing by that story are Roberts and Mike McNeil, who is now serving time after pleading guilty to first degree robbery.

Roberts's story highlights a series of extreme cases of institutional abuse which, if true, would have been significant enough to deal the dreaded "death penalty" to the program. While there is no doubt that such improprieties have occurred in various programs within college football, the allegation that Auburn would have taken such actions at a time when its campus was swarming with journalists and NCAA investigators may lack common sense. 

Moreover, ESPN was so eager to discredit the Auburn program, a program that will certainly be irrelevant in the SEC West this season, that it invested six months investigating a 2010 drug problem on the team.

However, the heart of what that investigation focused on was synthetic marijuana known as "spice." ESPN alleges that use of the drug was rampant at Auburn during the 2010 season and that it was swept under the rug by the university and the football program. On the count that use of "spice" was widespread amongst Tiger athletes, ESPN is likely spot-on.

What the article fails to mention, though, is that the number of players even alleged to have tested positive is but a small fraction of the team.

Further, while insinuating that the 2010 national championship should be marred due to the usage of the drug, the article does not mention that a test for the drug was not invented until January 2011, weeks after the game, and that Auburn was a pioneer in testing the drug's usage and began to test days after they acquired the ability to do so. Counter to ESPN's allegations, Auburn took numerous documented steps to reach out to parents, to educate its student-athletes, and to prevent usage of the drug.

This testing was, by the way, being conducted on a drug that was not illegal in Alabama, the nation, or in the NCAA--and would not be for months. In fact, it could be bought over the counter until recently in the state and is a relatively new drug.

Auburn has since fired back on these and a number of other claims made by ESPN and other news outlets influenced by its coverage. However, the number of people that will read these statements of fact is dwarfed by the number of people who saw SportsCenter or read the coverage from ESPN.

If one falls into the category of most followers and only saw the news coverage, one would assume Auburn was guilty. However, their program has been exonerated, repeatedly, by the NCAA while other programs, including Oregon's, have committed wrongdoing that has barely been covered.

Was/is Auburn University some sort of saintly program that has done no wrong? Almost certainly not, and I would add that none of Oregon's infractions should cause that university to be seriously maligned either. What is at stake here is the accurate reporting of facts.

There are plenty of "bad actors" in college football. Some are part of institutions while countless others are on the streets, preying on amateur athletes. Those actors need to be found and exposed by the media, the NCAA, and, when applicable, the courts of law.

What happens when there is no competition in the media, however, is that any outlet with an axe to grind or the desire to print or tell sensational stories has the freedom to do so. While the Auburn and Oregon stories deserve to be told, no institution or its players should be demonized. The "demons" within should be sought and punished, but it is not the media's job to target an entity simply because it wants to.

Because ESPN currently has, in essence, a monopoly on 24/7 sports coverage, it can act as judge and jury and tell whatever story it wants to tell without voices able to challenge.

With Fox Sports 1 set to launch later this summer, there could finally be some competition in sports coverage. What one can only hope is that such competition for viewership leads to a competition for credibility that enhances accurate coverage on both sides.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/04/16/You-got-the-Wrong-Guy-ESPN-Wages-War-on-Auburn-While-Other-2010-Contender-Violates-Rules