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Title: Vortex life
Post by: Saniflush on January 08, 2013, 07:14:53 AM
Prepare to have your mind blown kids, this is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Godfather on January 08, 2013, 08:53:59 AM
the Saints are still cheaters.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 08:55:17 AM
That some cool shit.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 09:59:56 AM
So, I guess all the stars in space and galaxies and shit are moving at the same speed through space? I kind of find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 10:04:45 AM
So, I guess all the stars in space and galaxies and shit are moving at the same speed through space? I kind of find that hard to believe.

Stars are light years away. I would imagine that 17,000Km/hour would be like a snail crawling to an object over a mile away.

Just a guess, but it is what I would think...


Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
Stars are light years away. I would imagine that 17,000Km/hour would be like a snail crawling to an object over a mile away.

Just a guess, but it is what I would think...

Interesting thoughts. I can remember being taught in school that outer space itself never ends. That kind of stuff just screws with the mind a little bit.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 10:47:31 AM
Interesting thoughts. I can remember being taught in school that outer space itself never ends. That kind of stuff just screws with the mind a little bit.
You went to school?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: wesfau2 on January 08, 2013, 10:48:46 AM
Interesting thoughts. I can remember being taught in school that outer space itself never ends. That kind of stuff just screws with the mind a little bit.

The universe is finite.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 10:52:36 AM
The universe is finite.

You say that with such certainty. How? Multiple universes?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 10:55:54 AM
The universe is finite.
In my research, I've observed that the Universe appears to be expanding at an accelerating rate, and a number of models have arisen to predict its ultimate fate. There are various multiverse hypotheses, in which physicists have suggested that the Universe might be one among many universes that likewise exist. The farthest distance that it is theoretically possible for humans to see is described as the observable Universe.

This is all just my opinion, of course, but my telescope is the best Sears sold in '79--so I'd say I'm pretty close.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Saniflush on January 08, 2013, 11:09:18 AM
The universe is finite.

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Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Godfather on January 08, 2013, 11:19:55 AM
You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 11:20:41 AM
Oh...I see...

 :yallfu:
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Saniflush on January 08, 2013, 11:22:42 AM
You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?

-10


The judges would have accepted any number of responses but this would have been the best....
The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Godfather on January 08, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
-10


The judges would have accepted any number of responses but this would have been the best....
The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything.

I made the duck blue because I'd never seen a blue duck before and I wanted to see one
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 08, 2013, 11:44:21 AM
So, I guess all the stars in space and galaxies and shoot are moving at the same speed through space? I kind of find that hard to believe.

The stars you see with the naked eye are relatively close by, meaning in the Milky Way Galaxy, and probably on our side of it.  The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy and the reason we are moving at 17,000km/hr is that we (solar system) is orbiting the center of it the same as the planets orbit the sun.  All the stars in our neighborhood that we can see are close to us in terms of location and size give or take an order of magnitude.  If they are orbiting the same mass that we are (theorized as a super massive black hole in the center of the galaxy) and are close to the same orbit then they will probably be real close to our velocity of 17,000km/hr as well.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 08, 2013, 12:00:14 PM
The stars you see with the naked eye are relatively close by, meaning in the Milky Way Galaxy, and probably on our side of it.  The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy and the reason we are moving at 17,000km/hr is that we (solar system) is orbiting the center of it the same as the planets orbit the sun.  All the stars in our neighborhood that we can see are close to us in terms of location and size give or take an order of magnitude.  If they are orbiting the same mass that we are (theorized as a super massive black hole in the center of the galaxy) and are close to the same orbit then they will probably be real close to our velocity of 17,000km/hr as well.

Could I buy some pot from you?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
The stars you see with the naked eye are relatively close by, meaning in the Milky Way Galaxy, and probably on our side of it.  The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy and the reason we are moving at 17,000km/hr is that we (solar system) is orbiting the center of it the same as the planets orbit the sun.  All the stars in our neighborhood that we can see are close to us in terms of location and size give or take an order of magnitude.  If they are orbiting the same mass that we are (theorized as a super massive black hole in the center of the galaxy) and are close to the same orbit then they will probably be real close to our velocity of 17,000km/hr as well.
Far out, man.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
The stars you see with the naked eye are relatively close by, meaning in the Milky Way Galaxy, and probably on our side of it.  The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy and the reason we are moving at 17,000km/hr is that we (solar system) is orbiting the center of it the same as the planets orbit the sun.  All the stars in our neighborhood that we can see are close to us in terms of location and size give or take an order of magnitude.  If they are orbiting the same mass that we are (theorized as a super massive black hole in the center of the galaxy) and are close to the same orbit then they will probably be real close to our velocity of 17,000km/hr as well.

Or then there is that hypothesis...
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Godfather on January 08, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
He stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 08, 2013, 12:16:30 PM
Trust him.  He's Pre-Engineering
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 12:25:52 PM
The stars you see with the naked eye are relatively close by, meaning in the Milky Way Galaxy, and probably on our side of it.  The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy and the reason we are moving at 17,000km/hr is that we (solar system) is orbiting the center of it the same as the planets orbit the sun.  All the stars in our neighborhood that we can see are close to us in terms of location and size give or take an order of magnitude.  If they are orbiting the same mass that we are (theorized as a super massive black hole in the center of the galaxy) and are close to the same orbit then they will probably be real close to our velocity of 17,000km/hr as well.

(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Dazed---Confused-dazed-and-confused-387165_400_301.jpg)
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
Trust him.  He's Pre-Engineering
My uncle retired from the railroad.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: wesfau2 on January 08, 2013, 12:34:09 PM
You say that with such certainty. How? Multiple universes?

Allow me to be more clear:

The observable, measurable, non-theoretical universe is finite.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
Allow me to be more clear:

The observable, measurable, non-theoretical universe is finite.
Ahhhh, yes, I see. You disqualify the parallel universe, in which we went 10-3 last year. How convenient.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
Allow me to be more clear:

The observable, measurable, non-theoretical universe is finite.

There is one of the theologian type that agrees with you, probably more. A guy by the name of Chuck Missler.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: wesfau2 on January 08, 2013, 12:50:14 PM
There is one of the theologian type that agrees with you, probably more. A guy by the name of Chuck Missler.

I don't give a fuck what a theologian thinks about science.

The entirety of the scientific community agrees with my statement.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: bottomfeeder on January 08, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
Quantum Physics/Mechanics says it's possible to travel faster than the speed of light.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
Quantum Physics/Mechanics says it's possible to travel faster than the speed of light.
My mechanic doesn't believe this. But he doesn't work on imports.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Vandy Vol on January 08, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Quantum Physics/Mechanics says it's possible to travel faster than the speed of light.

(http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/img/imagingchamber/sam_al/promopicscottdean.jpg)
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: djsimp on January 08, 2013, 01:24:17 PM
The entirety of the scientific community agrees with my statement.

Well, then that settles it. End of discussion.

My point here is not to get in this who is right and wrong bullshit discussion. It was only to share the fact I had once listened to this guy diving into the finite universe idea. Pretty interesting to say the least and actually made a lot of sense.

So anyways, I got some work to do here trying to harness lightning into my flux capacitor.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 08, 2013, 01:37:38 PM
You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?

I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a spaceship. Don't look at me.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 01:38:59 PM
Well, then that settles it. End of discussion.

My point here is not to get in this who is right and wrong bullshoot discussion. It was only to share the fact I had once listened to this guy diving into the finite universe idea. Pretty interesting to say the least and actually made a lot of sense.

So anyways, I got some work to do here trying to harness lightning into my flux capacitor.
See, here is where your problem develops. You listened rather than developing an opinion and sticking to it regardless of the situation. You will never get anywhere with this kind of attitude, son. Make your damn mind up and stick to it, even if it's a stupid idea. You can NEVER be wrong.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 08, 2013, 01:56:37 PM
Allow me to be more clear:

The observable, measurable, non-theoretical universe is finite.

Doesn't matter, the edge of the universe would be the edge of any informaton you could obtain from it, so it would be beyond the boundary of light that has been growing since creation/big bang (I'll play nice....for now), since we can't travel beyond the speed of light we cannot get outside of the light bubble created by the universe, so no matter how far or fast you go you will still be within the universe.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 02:01:00 PM
Doesn't matter, the edge of the universe would be the edge of any informaton you could obtain from it, so it would be beyond the boundary of light that has been growing since creation/big bang (I'll play nice....for now), since we can't travel beyond the speed of light we cannot get outside of the light bubble created by the universe, so no matter how far or fast you go you will still be within the universe.

So it could possibly be infinite. There has been no boundaries set?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 08, 2013, 02:05:11 PM
So it could possibly be infinite. There has been no boundaries set?

I'm saying it is beyond what we can see, so what does it matter?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 08, 2013, 02:10:18 PM
I'm saying it is beyond what we can see, so what does it matter?

It matters because Wes made a definite statement. I asked how and am curious.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 02:10:32 PM
Doesn't matter, the edge of the universe would be the edge of any informaton you could obtain from it, so it would be beyond the boundary of light that has been growing since creation/big bang (I'll play nice....for now), since we can't travel beyond the speed of light we cannot get outside of the light bubble created by the universe, so no matter how far or fast you go you will still be within the universe.
If you had headlight that could shine faster than the speed of light then you could see it though.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 08, 2013, 02:11:21 PM
It matters because Wes made a definite statement. I asked how and am curious.
Look, I could explain all of this but I don't have time.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: DnATL on January 08, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
(http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/img/imagingchamber/sam_al/promopicscottdean.jpg)
I bet you like to slap your iphone and call Siri "ziggy"
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: DnATL on January 08, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
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just post a picture of Eccentrica Gallumbits and move this to the Concourse
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Vandy Vol on January 08, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
I bet you like to slap your iphone and call Siri "ziggy"

iPhone?  I'm not gay.





















I just fondle balls.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: DnATL on January 08, 2013, 04:10:50 PM
iPhone?  I'm not gay.

I just fondle balls.
and you don't like phone sex because it turns your blackberry brown
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Hogwally on January 09, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
    So if I was on a train traveling at the speed of light, then walked from the back of the train to the front of the train, wouldn't I be traveling faster than the speed of light?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Saniflush on January 09, 2013, 11:23:03 AM
    So if I was on a train traveling at the speed of light, then walked from the back of the train to the front of the train, wouldn't I be traveling faster than the speed of light?

Probably not.....I've seen you walk.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: wesfau2 on January 09, 2013, 11:24:51 AM
Probably not.....I've seen you walk.

Now a drunken helicopter that exceeds the speed of light would be quite a sight.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Hogwally on January 09, 2013, 11:26:24 AM
Probably not.....I've seen you walk.

Well then how in the hell do they get the bubbles in the beer?  I thought splitting beer atoms was the only way.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Saniflush on January 09, 2013, 11:27:56 AM
Well then how in the hell do they get the bubbles in the beer?  I thought splitting beer atoms was the only way.

fm=8
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Godfather on January 09, 2013, 12:00:02 PM
Probably not.....I've seen you walk.
He meant ping-pong
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 09, 2013, 05:08:42 PM
    So if I was on a train traveling at the speed of light, then walked from the back of the train to the front of the train, wouldn't I be traveling faster than the speed of light?

No, the wind would blow you off.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Vandy Vol on January 09, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
No, the wind would blow you off.

My name's not The Wind.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: bottomfeeder on January 09, 2013, 09:57:22 PM
    So if I was on a train traveling at the speed of light, then walked from the back of the train to the front of the train, wouldn't I be traveling faster than the speed of light?
No, because you're in a different "state of scale" than that of the outside of the train. Kind of like bubble boy. To make space travel possible, without dying of old age, you would need a vehicle that travels FASTER than the speed of light.

"theory of Space-Time Continuum Quantum physics tell us that everything which exists actually flashes in and out of existence about a billion times per second."

Quote
While in the classical domain, the resolution with which a measurement is performed does not change the physics (measuring with a better resolution only improves the precision of the measurements results), this is no longer the case in quantum mechanics. The Heisenberg relations imply a universal dependence of physical results on the resolution of the measurement apparatus. Basing ourselves on this universality and on the relative character of all scales in nature, we have proposed to incorporate resolutions into the definition of coordinate systems, by defining them as their ‘state of scale’. In this form Einstein’s farreaching formulation of the principle of relativity, according to which “the laws of physics must apply to any system of coordinates, whatever its state” [17], can incorporate not only the effect of motion transformations (through the quantities which caracterize the state of motion of the reference system, such as velocity and acceleration), but also of scale transformations. The implementation of such a generalized principle consist in requiring both motion -covariance (more generally, covariance under displacements and rotations of fourdimensional coordinates systems) and scale-covariance[9].


This result is the key for a description of nondifferentiable processes in terms of differential equations.
Rather than considering only the strictly nondifferentiable mathematical object f(x), we shall consider its various approximations obtained from smoothing it or averaging it at various resolutions:
         

          +∞
f(x,ε) = ∫  Φ(x,y,ε) f(y) d y        (3.1)
          –∞


http://aristote.biophy.jussieu.fr/~luthier/nottale/arCSF94.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9411005

"Loop quantum gravity is one theory that predicts a discreteness of spacetime."

http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm2/modules/m9/dirac.htm

(http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm2/modules/m9/9/Image4870.gif)

http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm1/modules/m5/pictures.htm

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Let us finally briefly consider some prospect for the future development of this field of research. Concerning 29 stochastic quantum mechanics, some work is still needed for a proper inclusion of spin (one can hope to see it not artificially added as in current quantum mechanics, but instead naturally emerge as a structure of the fractal virtual trajectories), then for a thorough understanding of the Dirac equation (in particular in a stochastic framework which would include trajectories running backward in classical time). Concerning scale relativity, the next step is now to include fields into the description: we shall suggest in a forthcoming paper a possible approach to this problem, which allows us to derive new relations between masses and charges of particles [40].

http://www.math.rochester.edu/people/faculty/cmlr/Preprints/Utah-Summer-School.pdf

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~rmeester/onderwijs/stochastic_processes/sp_new.pdf
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Vandy Vol on January 10, 2013, 11:19:35 AM
What would happen if I bent space and time around my flesh rocket and thrust it at warp speed into your black hole?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: bottomfeeder on January 10, 2013, 11:23:57 AM
What would happen if I bent space and time around my flesh rocket and thrust it at warp speed into your black hole?

That's exactly the direction we are going with this. Care to be the first guinea pig?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 10, 2013, 11:31:52 AM
Maybe if we tied a cheetah to Grandma's back.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: bottomfeeder on January 10, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
Maybe if we tied a cheetah to Grandma's back.

Grandma was replaced with a penguin.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on January 10, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
Maybe if we tied a cheetah to Grandma's back.

You've thought about this before.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 10, 2013, 01:25:50 PM
Does the future currently exist in a tangible state?
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: bottomfeeder on January 10, 2013, 01:41:46 PM
Does the future currently exist in a tangible state?

I think it does exist in some form that is reachable, but not physically tangible in the sense of the word as we know it.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Hogwally on January 10, 2013, 02:36:09 PM
No, because you're in a different "state of scale" than that of the outside of the train. Kind of like bubble boy. To make space travel possible, without dying of old age, you would need a vehicle that travels FASTER than the speed of light.

"theory of Space-Time Continuum Quantum physics tell us that everything which exists actually flashes in and out of existence about a billion times per second."

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9411005

"Loop quantum gravity is one theory that predicts a discreteness of spacetime."

http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm2/modules/m9/dirac.htm

(http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm2/modules/m9/9/Image4870.gif)

http://electron6.phys.utk.edu/qm1/modules/m5/pictures.htm

http://www.math.rochester.edu/people/faculty/cmlr/Preprints/Utah-Summer-School.pdf

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~rmeester/onderwijs/stochastic_processes/sp_new.pdf

     I wasn't really trying to go for deep understanding, just posting semi-related quotes from a stupid 80's film.
Title: Re: Vortex life
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 10, 2013, 02:49:59 PM
     I wasn't really trying to go for deep understanding, just posting semi-related quotes from a stupid 80's film.

chuckle