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'You Don't Know Bo' revives Jackson's legacy for a new generation of sports fans (column)
By Joel A. Erickson | jerickson@al.com
on December 08, 2012 at 2:04 PM, updated December 08, 2012 at 5:13 PM
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Former Auburn great Bo Jackson recently served on the search committee that landed Gus Malzahn on the Plains. (The Huntsville Times/Bob Gathany)
AUBURN, Alabama -- Bo Jackson carries an impossible legacy, a place in history that rests on almost none of the measures that normally define America's legends.
Jackson holds no unbreakable records, won no championships, probably never reached his full peak and lost any chance at longevity due to catastrophic injury.
His greatness exists mostly in moments.
Only a few of our heroes had those kinds of careers. Jackie Robinson was like that, the man who broke the color barrier, made diving catches to beat the Phillies in the mist and stealing home against the Yankees in the Series.
Willie Mays was like that, even though he had the big numbers to back it up.
Bo Jackson's legacy exists almost entirely in moments. And what director Michael Bonfiglio realized as he started to make "You Don't Know Bo," -- the 30 for 30 documentary that premiers at 8 p.m. tonight on ESPN -- was that Jackson's brilliance -- has largely been lost on an entire generation of sports fans.
"If you're younger than 26, 27, and you live outside the state of Alabama, you don't know much about Bo Jackson," Bonfiglio said. "I couldn't believe it. I'm not even a sports guy, and even I know about Bo Jackson."
People who grew up in Alabama might find that hard to believe. Jackson's legacy in this state is as secure as his statue outside Jordan-Hare.
But when a 27-year-old coworker who always has the answer for anything sports-related admitted to Bonfiglio that he didn't know much about Bo Jackson other than his status as the best video-game running back in history, Bonfiglio had his mission.
"I wanted to make something that brought Bo Jackson to a generation of fans who never got to see him play," Bonfiglio said.
Bonfiglio nailed it.
In an era when arguments about greatness are usually based on the tangible, Bo Jackson's status as the best overall American athlete since Jim Thorpe is based on what we saw Jackson do.
Bo Jackson was the second of three Auburn Heisman Trophy winners.Contributed
He ended nearly a decade of Alabama dominance by leaping over the top. Jackson homered to lead off the All-Star Game, ran across the outfield wall and threw out Harold Reynolds from the outfield wall in Seattle. He finished the 40-yard dash in 4.12, ran over the Boz, walked straight off the outfield grass and into the top spot as the NFL's best running back.
"You Don't Know Bo" is a collection of those moments, a series of short stories, "Aesop's Fables" for the sports fan.
And it's really the only way to tell Jackson's story.
"When I started talking to people about Bo Jackson, they kept telling those stories, like something out of a comic book," Bonfiglio said. "I used almost every one."
At some point in the future, the story of Bo Jackson, at least to most outside the state of Alabama, may seem impossible, a collection of legends that can't possibly be true, the Paul Bunyan of American sports.
"You Don't Know Bo" serves as evidence that the legend is actually the truth.
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Thanks for the reminder. I had planned on watching this and had forgotten all about it.
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I'm there, dude.
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I watched and very much enjoyed it. Bo is still hero! It kind of made my wife sad for him, with his career being cut so short. That run up the outfield wall is a thing of beauty.
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The tease in the trailer was awesome "What if told you he could do everything....and did?" The athletes in awe of his play....fucking awesome.
It saddens me what might have been, but Bo is content. That makes it ok.
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It saddens me what might have been, but Bo is content. That makes it ok.
Thats what I told my wife but you are right, the lingering question about what could have been sucks. Its also amazing that Auburn has had such freak athletes such as Bo and Cam come through the program. After watching this show, Bo further cements his position in my mind as the best Auburn athlete ever. He is the reason why I became an Auburn fan.
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He made both the Pro Bowl and the MLB Allstar games, the only athlete to do so, yet he's not in either HOF. Should be in both.
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He made both the Pro Bowl and the MLB Allstar games, the only athlete to do so, yet he's not in either HOF. Should be in both.
Its possible that this show will bring that to the forefront.
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Set the DVR before I left and plan on watching it tonight when I get home.
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No Bo Jackson can't nor should he be considered for HOF status. That said, I told my daughter and son, as a child we only heard stories of Jim Thorpe and could only trust what others passed down and what we could soak up in books. As kids we considered the accomplisments of Thorpe as gospel and never gave it a thought that someone of his stature could reappear.
Then comes this amazing talent that could do basically anything he set his mind to and I still don't think the public can fathom just how extraordinary Bo was.
I still can't. But in that stretch of time I truly think I witnessed the feats of the greatest athlete to ever come from the state of Alabama as an amateur or professional for I know that his talents could be applied to any era against the best in both sports had his career not been cut short by injury.
And long after we are gone some kid might happen along with superior skills yet totally unaware of the greatness that preceeded him. How could he! Highlights only give one a glimpse.
All hail Bo Jackson, the greatest two sport legend of our time. WDBO!
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yall'z is haterz.
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I just watched this. Wow. Even knowing the legend of Bo so familiarly, as an Auburn fan, it is still amazing to see/hear it all again. Moreso through the eyes of outsiders.
To K's point: they essentially dismissed Walker as a footnote. It was glorious. Suck it, mutts.
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I just watched this. Wow. Even knowing the legend of Bo so familiarly, as an Auburn fan, it is still amazing to see/hear it all again. Moreso through the eyes of outsiders.
To K's point: they essentially dismissed Walker as a footnote. It was glorious. Suck it, mutts.
Saw a Hershell special on the TV lineup that followed the 30 - 30 but it can't compare to the two sport godlike exploits... godalmighty look at Cam Newton... sorry Jesus God what a run... anyway Walker was one tremendous back. Carry on!
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yall'z is haterz.
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Fucker is dumber than a bag of hammers. And uga totally elevates him to god status. Fuck him.
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I can see some similarities carrying the rock but then that's where the comparisons end. No contest!
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That 1982 Iron Bowl was one of the happiest days of my life. Just watching that play during this movie made me get all choked up.
Greatest of all time.
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That 1992 Iron Bowl was one of the happiest days of my life. Just watching that play during this movie made me get all choked up.
Greatest of all time.
Uh did you mean 1982?
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I can see some similarities carrying the rock but then that's where the comparisons end. No contest!
Epic track battles between the two. People forget that they both were track stars too. I mean, who watches track anyway!
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Epic track battles between the two. People forget that they both were track stars too. I mean, who watches track anyway!
Have a buddy that played football at Ole Miss in the mid 80s, that got to see first hand an SEC track meet where Bo and Hershel ran in a heat. I think the 100m. I think Hershel would have been a Sr. and Bo a Fr. Said Hershel beat him by a hair, and they smoked the rest of the field.
He was also on the field for Auburn's thrashing of his Rebels in 85, and watched Bo go off on them. Said he was in awe of what he saw from Bo.
It amazes me the athletes that say "what the fuck was that" after seeing Bo.
Best friend's Mother In Law had surgery and rehab with Andrews. She was in a whirlpool room when Bo Walked in in a speedo after his hip surgery. She's as conservative a lady as any you'd meet, but we all laugh at how she was in awe of the physical specimen of Bo. She blushes to this day when it's brought up. The only words she can come up with is "Oh my!" to describe it.
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Have a buddy that played football at Ole Miss in the mid 80s, that got to see first hand an SEC track meet where Bo and Hershel ran in a heat. I think the 100m. I think Hershel would have been a Sr. and Bo a Fr. Said Hershel beat him by a hair, and they smoked the rest of the field.
He was also on the field for Auburn's thrashing of his Rebels in 85, and watched Bo go off on them. Said he was in awe of what he saw from Bo.
It amazes me the athletes that say "what the fuck was that" after seeing Bo.
Best friend's Mother In Law had surgery and rehab with Andrews. She was in a whirlpool room when Bo Walked in in a speedo after his hip surgery. She's as conservative a lady as any you'd meet, but we all laugh at how she was in awe of the physical specimen of Bo. She blushes to this day when it's brought up. The only words she can come up with is "Oh my!" to describe it.
I may be wrong but every write up I've read on their track duals always shows Bo as the winner. But like you said, if this was a case of an 18 yr old FR vs a 22 yr old SR and it was by a hair, then I could see where that could totally happen.
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Uh did you mean 1982?
Yes, darlin. Thanks. Fat fingers typing.
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Yes, darlin. Thanks. Fat fingers typing.
So there is fingering involved?
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So there is fingering involved?
Duh.
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Yes, darlin. Thanks. Fat fingers typing.
It was late. I had to read it twice. Thanks for not PMing me with a lot of threats to whip my punk ass like some other posters around here......
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Have a buddy that played football at Ole Miss in the mid 80s, that got to see first hand an SEC track meet where Bo and Hershel ran in a heat. I think the 100m. I think Hershel would have been a Sr. and Bo a Fr. Said Hershel beat him by a hair, and they smoked the rest of the field.
He was also on the field for Auburn's thrashing of his Rebels in 85, and watched Bo go off on them. Said he was in awe of what he saw from Bo.
It amazes me the athletes that say "what the fudge was that" after seeing Bo.
Best friend's Mother In Law had surgery and rehab with Andrews. She was in a whirlpool room when Bo Walked in in a speedo after his hip surgery. She's as conservative a lady as any you'd meet, but we all laugh at how she was in awe of the physical specimen of Bo. She blushes to this day when it's brought up. The only words she can come up with is "Oh my!" to describe it.
I saw a video of a track meet with Bo and Herschel. What was funny wasn't just that they were faster than the other runners, it was that they were about 4" taller and 50lbs heavier and still smoked them.
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I saw a video of a track meet with Bo and Herschel. What was funny wasn't just that they were faster than the other runners, it was that they were about 4" taller and 50lbs heavier and still smoked them.
They were both very rare freaks of nature that God just touched and said, "You will be a great physical specimen".
I wonder if Hersh ever tried other sports. Bo could have done anything, I am certain of that. I'm pretty sure that Hersh could have also. The difference being that Bo DID do it.
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Bo absolutely is the epitome of the ultimate Auburn man. He came to Auburn with a speech impediment, poor, and a reputation as a trouble maker and bully. In four years he left educated, people lining up to hire him for millions of dollars, and someone who was known for his charity work. He spurned George Steinbrenner, Bear Bryant, and the NFL and the money and fame that go with all on matters of personal pride and principles. He earned his degree. When a freak injury threatened to end his career he didn't pout, he went to work. When it did eventually take his career away he didn't pout, he went into business and was successful. When natural disaster struck his home state he went out and worked to raise money for it. He was as famous for a while as anybody and remained humble throughout.
There are not many people that I would consider myself just in awe of but he is one of them.
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Bo absolutely is the epitome of the ultimate Auburn man. He came to Auburn with a speech impediment, poor, and a reputation as a trouble maker and bully. In four years he left educated, people lining up to hire him for millions of dollars, and someone who was known for his charity work. He spurned George Steinbrenner, Bear Bryant, and the NFL and the money and fame that go with all on matters of personal pride and principles. He earned his degree. When a freak injury threatened to end his career he didn't pout, he went to work. When it did eventually take his career away he didn't pout, he went into business and was successful. When natural disaster struck his home state he went out and worked to raise money for it. He was as famous for a while as anybody and remained humble throughout.
There are not many people that I would consider myself just in awe of but he is one of them.
Yep
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Epic track battles between the two. People forget that they both were track stars too. I mean, who watches track anyway!
There was also An A-day (Mid to late 80's) game where they allowed people (Mostly track high school kids) on the field to challenge Bo to a race-They started at the 25 or 30 and Bo was at the goal line,
Bo beat everyone by twenty yards if I remember.
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Bo absolutely is the epitome of the ultimate Auburn man. He came to Auburn with a speech impediment, poor, and a reputation as a trouble maker and bully. In four years he left educated, people lining up to hire him for millions of dollars, and someone who was known for his charity work. He spurned George Steinbrenner, Bear Bryant, and the NFL and the money and fame that go with all on matters of personal pride and principles. He earned his degree. When a freak injury threatened to end his career he didn't pout, he went to work. When it did eventually take his career away he didn't pout, he went into business and was successful. When natural disaster struck his home state he went out and worked to raise money for it. He was as famous for a while as anybody and remained humble throughout.
There are not many people that I would consider myself just in awe of but he is one of them.
I concur. My admiration prob has as much to do with his character and his seemingly humble nature as his athletic accomplishments. It's hard to figure someone being so humble while being so great. I know that being great makes maintaining humbleness difficult for me.
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Ran into Bo a year or so ago at the Auburn Conference Center. I was going out, he was coming in.
We're roughly the same age and I still froze up. Couldn't even choke a word out.
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Bo was not happy about being declared ineligible by the NCAA for his plane ride with Hugh Culverhouse, the Tampa Bay owner. ESPN does not mention the fact that Culverhouse was a bammer grad.
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Bo was not happy about being declared ineligible by the NCAA for his plane ride with Hugh Culverhouse, the Tampa Bay owner. ESPN does not mention the fact that Culverhouse was a bammer grad.
This was the one part of the documentary that was new to me. I did not know that Bo was ever declared ineligible.
My first thought was "Bammers must have been involved somehow", but then he wasn't disqualified until all of his football seasons were over with. Makes more sense that he was trying to fuck him out of his baseball career so he would focus on football. Still shady as shit, and I'm glad did what he did in response.
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This was the one part of the documentary that was new to me. I did not know that Bo was ever declared ineligible.
My first thought was "Bammers must have been involved somehow", but then he wasn't disqualified until all of his football seasons were over with. Makes more sense that he was trying to fudge him out of his baseball career so he would focus on football. Still shady as shoot, and I'm glad did what he did in response.
I had heard the story before, from what I understand the Bucs were tattling to the NCAA while the plane was still in the air.