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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 15, 2012, 08:12:15 PM
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I'm off. I'm off the Gene Chizik wagon. I was last week too, but this is official. Overtime to beat LA Monroe?
Overtime? I don't care how good they are. Even if they're the best team in their conference, they're still the best Sun Belt team. We're in the SEC. The bottom of the barrel, perennial losers of the SEC struggle with Sun Belt teams.
Alabama, crippled by sanctions and a lack of team discipline and a new head coach with a vastly different system, struggles with Sun Belt teams.
Arkansas, dismantled by their former head coach's love affair and plagued by injuries and suffocated by an ignorant boob for a current head coach, struggles with Sun Belt teams.
An SEC coach in his fourth tenure year with multiple top recruiting classes should NOT FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING FUCK EVER STRUGGLE WITH SUN BELT TEAMS.
Let alone a week after losing to Miss State, one of the few teams in the SEC that is embarrassing to lose to.
So I'm off. We can beat LSU this week, and I won't praise Chizik.
I'm the scrooge that will point out everything that's wrong. I'm the thorn in your optimism's side.
Why was LA Monroe able to come into Jordan Hare and take us to the wire? It's easy to say, "Well, LA Monroe has a good football team." So, why do they have a good football team? Are their players talented? Are they traditionally a good football team?
How does Boise State recruit lower tier talent and year after year produce good football teams? Why, even in their conference, do they consistently win 10+ games a year?
Why was it that after 6 years (or 15) of suckage, Nick Saban could come to Tuscaloosa and in two years produce a consistently dominant football team?
Why was Jim Tressel's Ohio State teams called overrated due to their conference opponents, yet once he left, Ohio State's dominance dwindled?
How is it possible for a team like Oklahoma, which resides in the dusty, boring midwest, able to produce an annually ranked top ten team? Why are they scoffed at when they only lose two games a year?
How did West Virginia go from being a great program under Rich Rodriguez to being a mediocre program under Bill Stewart and back to being an upper level program under Dana Holgerson?
You know the answer to ALL of those questions?
Leadership and coaching stemmed from the head coach. The programs that succeed on a regular basis have a system implemented by the head coach that consistently produces a competitive football team.
Those teams I listed have nothing in common. Nothing. Some are bottom tier schools in subpar conferences. Some are new kids on the block who have only recently experienced success. Some are traditional powerhouses that knew of championships long ago. Some went from top of the world to down in the dumps to back to top of the world.
It's coaching. And we don't have it. Our coach's system does not produce a competitive football on a regular basis.
That is why we fired Tuberville. We weren't going to accept a program that failed to live up to expectations. There's no need whatsoever to suddenly not have expectations. We expect to have a competitive football team. We shouldn't have to care about how young they are. We shouldn't have to care about attrition. We shouldn't have to wonder about player development and everything else.
I'm off the wagon.
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I <3 You. I am very drunk, but at this moment in time, I <3 you.
I can handle anything but a lack of leadership. I seriously don't mind the win loss record as long as we do it as a united Auburn team. But the lack of leadership on this team obviously comes from the top. And that makes me so sad.
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Might as well, since the retards will keep screaming and won't shut up until it's done, which will cripple any recruiting (hint: it's already starting).
I want to see what NEW OC Coach Loeffler and NEW DC Coach Van Gorder can do with a full year. I guess I don't mind the bumps and bruises if I can see the bigger picture (which doesn't involve crying, complaining and stomping my feet).
What I'm trying to say, it'll get better...have some fucking patience.
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Might as well, since the retards will keep screaming and won't shut up until it's done, which will cripple any recruiting (hint: it's already starting).
I want to see what NEW OC Coach Loeffler and NEW DC Coach Van Gorder can do with a full year. I guess I don't mind the bumps and bruises if I can see the bigger picture (which doesn't involve crying, complaining and stomping my feet).
What I'm trying to say, it'll get better...have some fucking patience.
Dude, there's bigger picture and there's ignoring the huge hole the iceberg has already gashed in the hull of the ship. You can cry for patience but the ship is still going down, and like it or not, the Captain is the one going down with it.
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Might as well, since the retards will keep screaming and won't shut up until it's done, which will cripple any recruiting (hint: it's already starting).
I want to see what NEW OC Coach Loeffler and NEW DC Coach Van Gorder can do with a full year. I guess I don't mind the bumps and bruises if I can see the bigger picture (which doesn't involve crying, complaining and stomping my feet).
What I'm trying to say, it'll get better...have some fucking patience.
Players are not being developed or pushed to get better. It's more than just getting used to a new scheme(s). People make a big deal about it, but it's more just learning a new language. It's not like it's completely foreign football concepts on either side of the ball, just packaged differently with different philosophies.
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I thought it had to have wheels to be considered a wagon? Those wheels are still stuck in the mud of
Mudville Starkville.
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I was so off I couldn't even see the wagon.
Then I got wet against West Virginia and followed the muddy wagon tracks to join the throng that were chasing it.
Then Kentucky shit on our doorstep at home and I wandered off to look at some trees. Then we pig fucked Ole Miss, had the bammer dipsticks on the ropes and had a crazy bowl game. It was fun. So I walked back to the wagon line.
And then Cam. Marvelous magnificent Cam. I love him. I forgot everything as we lived through more off-field bullshit than anyone could be expected to -- and came out with everything. So I sat on the tailgate and rode along. Surviving that adversity? Keeping the team focused? Must have been wrong.
And then last year. I didn't understand the whole Trotter thing. I didn't understand why Dyer would be invisible for long stretches, just standing around on the sidelines. I didn't like getting ass raped by Arkansas, LSU, Georgia and Alabama. But I figured it was okay because we'd lost Cam and no mere mortal could make up for that.
And now here we are.
I don't want to get back off the wagon because it took me a while to get there. Don't want to admit that I was right about being wrong about being right. That makes my head hurt. But I think about 2010. Cam was the most gifted athlete in the history of the college game perhaps. He was everything Tebow wanted to be but isn't. He's Joe Montana and Barry Sanders merged. And we struggled to beat Clemson. Struggled to beat SC. Struggled to beat KY. It wasn't like 2004 where we went out and just absolutely bitch-slapped everybody but LSU. And I wonder. Should we have struggled? Shouldn't we have dominated?
And then I hear about Alabama. Dominant. We lose four first rounders and it's going to be a five year rebuilding process apparently. They lose four and are better than they were before. I don't get it. I hate it, I hate them and I wish the damn tornado had jigged just a little bit to the left.
Then I look at Arkansas. Even with Tyler Wilson they still get raped like a cub scout in the Penn State shower room today. But I bet they don't with Bobby still there. And I wonder.
We're on the express train to hell. And I don't know what wagon I'm on any more. I want Chizik to be successful if for no other reason than to make every bammer who's brayed 5-19 or 16-10 over the last four years to eat a dick with those numbers tattooed on it.
I only watched the fourth quarter today, but what I saw on Chizik's face was absolute bumfuckery. He looked every bit as lost as I would be and the players felt it. The sideline looked miserable, disorganized and disjointed.
I want it to get better and I pray he's the man to make it so. I'm trying, Rico. I'm trying to keep the faith.
I saw a car burning today. It was on the side of the road, engulfed in flames that were a vibrant orange and roaring 20 feet in the air. Fire was spilling over the trunk, raging from the hood, melting the tires, licking out from under the carriage and the entire interior of the car was a mass of flame so brilliant it was painful to look at. A guy I assume to be the car's owner was standing about 20 feet away, just staring at the vehicle. The look on his face was exactly the same look I saw on Chizik's face, Frazier's face and the faces of several others. Dumbstruck disbelief.
*sigh*
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But I think about 2010. Cam was the most gifted athlete in the history of the college game perhaps. He was everything Tebow wanted to be but isn't. He's Joe Montana and Barry Sanders merged. And we struggled to beat Clemson. Struggled to beat SC. Struggled to beat KY. It wasn't like 2004 where we went out and just absolutely bitch-slapped everybody but LSU. And I wonder. Should we have struggled? Shouldn't we have dominated?
That considered, plus add in Fairley, and 24 Seniors in their second year in the systems...yeah, we should have ass raped everybody. You make some salient points for sure. Never thought to look at 2010 like that, but you're exactly right.
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Might as well, since the retards will keep screaming and won't shut up until it's done, which will cripple any recruiting (hint: it's already starting).
I want to see what NEW OC Coach Loeffler and NEW DC Coach Van Gorder can do with a full year. I guess I don't mind the bumps and bruises if I can see the bigger picture (which doesn't involve crying, complaining and stomping my feet).
What I'm trying to say, it'll get better...have some fucking patience.
Your argument isn't sound.
Alabama replaced their long time offensive coordinator while losing their veteran center and Heisman candidate running back.
Their offense looks better this year than it did last year.
Ours? Looks like a steaming pile of dogshit that's being eaten by the neighbor's retard dog.
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I was so off I couldn't even see the wagon.
Then I got wet against West Virginia and followed the muddy wagon tracks to join the throng that were chasing it.
Then Kentucky shit on our doorstep at home and I wandered off to look at some trees. Then we pig fucked Ole Miss, had the bammer dipsticks on the ropes and had a crazy bowl game. It was fun. So I walked back to the wagon line.
And then Cam. Marvelous magnificent Cam. I love him. I forgot everything as we lived through more off-field bullshit than anyone could be expected to -- and came out with everything. So I sat on the tailgate and rode along. Surviving that adversity? Keeping the team focused? Must have been wrong.
And then last year. I didn't understand the whole Trotter thing. I didn't understand why Dyer would be invisible for long stretches, just standing around on the sidelines. I didn't like getting ass raped by Arkansas, LSU, Georgia and Alabama. But I figured it was okay because we'd lost Cam and no mere mortal could make up for that.
And now here we are.
I don't want to get back off the wagon because it took me a while to get there. Don't want to admit that I was right about being wrong about being right. That makes my head hurt. But I think about 2010. Cam was the most gifted athlete in the history of the college game perhaps. He was everything Tebow wanted to be but isn't. He's Joe Montana and Barry Sanders merged. And we struggled to beat Clemson. Struggled to beat SC. Struggled to beat KY. It wasn't like 2004 where we went out and just absolutely bitch-slapped everybody but LSU. And I wonder. Should we have struggled? Shouldn't we have dominated?
And then I hear about Alabama. Dominant. We lose four first rounders and it's going to be a five year rebuilding process apparently. They lose four and are better than they were before. I don't get it. I hate it, I hate them and I wish the damn tornado had jigged just a little bit to the left.
Then I look at Arkansas. Even with Tyler Wilson they still get raped like a cub scout in the Penn State shower room today. But I bet they don't with Bobby still there. And I wonder.
We're on the express train to hell. And I don't know what wagon I'm on any more. I want Chizik to be successful if for no other reason than to make every bammer who's brayed 5-19 or 16-10 over the last four years to eat a dick with those numbers tattooed on it.
I only watched the fourth quarter today, but what I saw on Chizik's face was absolute bumfuckery. He looked every bit as lost as I would be and the players felt it. The sideline looked miserable, disorganized and disjointed.
I want it to get better and I pray he's the man to make it so. I'm trying, Rico. I'm trying to keep the faith.
I saw a car burning today. It was on the side of the road, engulfed in flames that were a vibrant orange and roaring 20 feet in the air. Fire was spilling over the trunk, raging from the hood, melting the tires, licking out from under the carriage and the entire interior of the car was a mass of flame so brilliant it was painful to look at. A guy I assume to be the car's owner was standing about 20 feet away, just staring at the vehicle. The look on his face was exactly the same look I saw on Chizik's face, Frazier's face and the faces of several others. Dumbstruck disbelief.
*sigh*
That's where I was last week.
Wanting to be on the wagon. Wanting to give Chizik a glimmer of hope. Wanting to see the guy succeed after being so calm and cool during the Cam scandal. Wanting to see the guy hoist up multiple trophies for Auburn. Wanting him to be there for twenty years and be our own special legend.
He preached integrity. He preached family. He was a winner. He was fun. He wasn't a tyrant. He's been proven to not be a cheater.
But it's apparent that something is wrong. Maybe Chizik is a great coach. Maybe he can lead a program to greatness, but maybe something happened after 2010.
Maybe he didn't know how to handle success.
I don't know. Don't really care at this point. Auburn doesn't struggle with LA Monroe. We don't get embarrassed by Miss State.
We don't go into the LSU week, two years in a row, and feel like we're about to get ass raped.
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More evidence:
Florida.
They left last season an absolute train wreck on offense. They came into this season with a lot of unknowns and looked downright awful against Bowling Green.
They settled on a quarterback and have steadily improved each week.
Now they have over 500 yards of offense in Knoxville.
Are they the new offensive powerhouse? No. Not by any means. But it's easy to see the improvement. It's easy to see them developing an offensive identity.
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Alabama replaced their long time offensive coordinator
To be fair, while Alabama replaced the OC, he was not allowed to bring his offense. Saban made him learn Alabama's offense and use that. You guys were ditching the spread, so I don't think that was an option.
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Auburn is racing neck and neck with Kentucky as the most embarrassing team in the conference this year.
That's what I don't get at all. New systems? Fine. But most of our guys don't seem to know systems that are in place in Pop Warner leagues.
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That considered, plus add in Fairley, and 24 Seniors in their second year in the systems...yeah, we should have ass raped everybody. You make some salient points for sure. Never thought to look at 2010 like that, but you're exactly right.
Yes. Everything Kaos and THS said. All of it is correct. We are lost. I don't care who ULM beat last week. I saw this one in person today. Some of it with you. You saw what I did. It looked even worse in person than the last 2 weeks. Im just puzzled. This is bad.
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To be fair, while Alabama replaced the OC, he was not allowed to bring his offense. Saban made him learn Alabama's offense and use that. You guys were ditching the spread, so I don't think that was an option.
So the head coach knew the best way to keep his team competitive and consistently rolling along and didn't allow a new guy to be the reason his system had a breakdown for a season or two?
Point still stands.
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To be fair, while Alabama replaced the OC, he was not allowed to bring his offense. Saban made him learn Alabama's offense and use that. You guys were ditching the spread, so I don't think that was an option.
Fuck Saban until he bleeds to death.
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Fuck Saban until he bleeds to death.
Thats probably what Saban's defense will do to us in November.
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Thats probably what Saban's defense will do to us in November.
We'll be dead long before that. They'll just be fucking a corpse.
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We'll be dead long before that. They'll just be fucking a corpse.
You are right. After lsu and uga, we will be a mere carcass for the midget to feast on.
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AUFeagamily.com isn't off the wagon. They have a "no whiners" thread. And Florence not dressing out today means he must have a bad attitude and AU is better off without that kind of player.
Did those ignorant fucks look at the field today? I'd take my grandmother over Jake Holland. I don't even know what position Florence plays, but he could AT LEAST stand 15 yards from the line of scrimmage and jump up and down until somebody pancaked his ass.
My 12 year old daughter watched a few plays -- god bless her she cares not one whit for football and I think I'm glad of it -- and when ULM was driving she asks absently "why are there no Auburn players in the middle?"
And I look. She's right. There's not a damn soul visible behind the line. Green grass as far as I could see. Where the hell was Holland?
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AUFeagamily.com isn't off the wagon. They have a "no whiners" thread. And Florence not dressing out today means he must have a bad attitude and AU is better off without that kind of player.
There's always going to be the few that are sunshine pumpers. I have a friend who got pissy when I started criticizing Chizik. According to him, the national championship means he knows how to win it all and if we're struggling, it means something else is hindering us.
Lunacy.
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AUFeagamily.com isn't off the wagon. They have a "no whiners" thread. And Florence not dressing out today means he must have a bad attitude and AU is better off without that kind of player.
Did those ignorant fucks look at the field today? I'd take my grandmother over Jake Holland. I don't even know what position Florence plays, but he could AT LEAST stand 15 yards from the line of scrimmage and jump up and down until somebody pancaked his ass.
My 12 year old daughter watched a few plays -- god bless her she cares not one whit for football and I think I'm glad of it -- and when ULM was driving she asks absently "why are there no Auburn players in the middle?"
And I look. She's right. There's not a damn soul visible behind the line. Green grass as far as I could see. Where the hell was Holland?
I texted JR probably 4 times in a 7 minute span when the game started....all concerning how bad Holland looked. Away from every play. Crumpling down to the ground. Stumbling around like a drunk. In that first series he looked as bad as I've ever seen a lb play. And it's not even close. Dude is lost.
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There's always going to be the few that are sunshine pumpers. I have a friend who got pissy when I started criticizing Chizik. According to him, the national championship means he knows how to win it all and if we're struggling, it means something else is hindering us.
Lunacy.
I didn't know you and prowler were friends.
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Troy had 300+ passing yards against Miss State and almost beat them.
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To all the pussies crying, complaining, stomping their feet saying I've been through Barfield days blah, blah, blah (anyone trying to compare Coach Chizik to Coach Barfield is just plain fucking retarded and there's no help for you), saying I'm off the wagon bus bullshit...
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Gene Chizik makes more in one year's salary than LA Monroe's entire football budget.
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To all the pussies crying, complaining, stomping their feet saying I've been through Barfield days blah, blah, blah (anyone trying to compare Coach Chizik to Coach Barfield is just plain fucking retarded and there's no help for you), saying I'm off the wagon bus bullshit...
You are unhinged. A total head case. Completely mental.
I appreciate your loyalty to AU, but damn, man. Reality is what it is.
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You are unhinged. A total head case. Completely mental.
I appreciate your loyalty to AU, but damn, man. Reality is what it is.
The helmets were straight as a motherfucker.
(for GH):
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This week I had a good friend and a great Auburn fan crash his plane in N. Atlanta and die.
I have vowed to just watch AU football this season and see where it takes us.
And as I do, I know that even if we lose every game, I would give that to have my old PHS/AU friend back. I love AU football, but sometimes I just have to take a step back and thank God for the blessing of being able to root for AU. It doesn't mean I like what I see sometimes, but at least I'm here to grit my teeth hope things get better.
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You are unhinged. A total head case. Completely mental.
I appreciate your loyalty to AU, but damn, man. Reality is what it is.
I'm a head case for getting behind a Coaching Staff that isn't going to quit (eventhough I would like to see some personnel changes) and 22+ players that haven't quit on me, the fan...then I guess I'm the fuckin looniest mutha fuckin head case on this board.
My question to you and everyone else that have decided to quit on Auburn...What does that make you?
Btw, once Auburn starts turning that corner and begins to show improvement, which they will, then you and the others aren't going to be welcome back on the wagon bus...you'll have to walk behind it, so everyone will know who decided to quit on the team and who didn't.
There's your fuckin reality.
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I texted JR probably 4 times in a 7 minute span when the game started....all concerning how bad Holland looked. Away from every play. Crumpling down to the ground. Stumbling around like a drunk. In that first series he looked as bad as I've ever seen a lb play. And it's not even close. Dude is lost.
There was that one time out where we had 2 DEs lined up on one side, and nobody covering the slot reciever on the other, and BVG jumped all in Holland's shit, and I have to assume he wasn't bright enough to call the strength of the formation properly, but what's worse is half the defense was aligning properly despite what he'd called, while half was aligning to his fucked up call.
Even when Holland did "do his job" he still didn't attack the ball carrier, and, instead, waited and caught him down field.
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I'm a head case for getting behind a Coaching Staff that isn't going to quit (eventhough I would like to see some personnel changes) and 22+ players that haven't quit on me, the fan...then I guess I'm the fuckin looniest mutha fuckin head case on this board.
My question to you and everyone else that have decided to quit on Auburn...What does that make you?
Btw, once Auburn starts turning that corner and begins to show improvement, which they will, then you and the others aren't going to be welcome back on the wagon bus...you'll have to walk behind it, so everyone will know who decided to quit on the team and who didn't.
There's your fuckin reality.
I can get on or off at any stop.
(http://www.auburn.edu/administration/parking_transit/i/transit.jpg)
I'm never off the Auburn Bus, but I'm off the Chizik bus.
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I'm a head case for getting behind a Coaching Staff that isn't going to quit (eventhough I would like to see some personnel changes) and 22+ players that haven't quit on me, the fan...then I guess I'm the fuckin looniest mutha fuckin head case on this board.
My question to you and everyone else that have decided to quit on Auburn...What does that make you?
Btw, once Auburn starts turning that corner and begins to show improvement, which they will, then you and the others aren't going to be welcome back on the wagon bus...you'll have to walk behind it, so everyone will know who decided to quit on the team and who didn't.
There's your fuckin reality.
The bus is always open. People come and go.
Nobody's quitting on Auburn, Prowler.
Some are just taking the position that what's occurring on the field (and off, frankly for all the excuses we make) in no way represents what we expect from the highest paid coaching staff in college football, a team that has some of the finest facilities in the nation, and a plays in front of a fanbase that understands and respects the college more so than the score.
We all love Auburn. This? It's not Auburn. Auburn isn't poorly prepared. Auburn isn't a clusterfuck. Auburn isn't the worst pair of quarterbacks in the history of college football. Auburn isn't unable to stop a Sunbelt team.
That's Mississippi State. That's Ole Miss. That's Vandy. That's not what we should be and it's not what we should be expected to accept.
If there were glimmers of hope, if there seemed to be a cohesive plan, if it looked like it was building to something people might be more patient. It does not. It looks like seventh grade backyard football. It looks like disorganized shit. The fucking Bad News Bears.
This isn't where this program should be by any stretch of the imagination. How can you begrudge people's distress?
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Until I watched Top Plays on ESPN and saw #2, I did not realize that one of Auburn's scores came when Frazier wobbled around and then threw it up for grabs into a crowd on the last play of the half. Save for that miracle, we were lost.
(http://letslivelifeforonce.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/swisssuicide.jpg)
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Knee Jerk reaction.
Also, Kaos, you've been waiting for any slip up on the field and I guess off the field to attack Coach Chizik. If you say that you haven't been, then that's bullshit. You've had your pitchforks and torches within arms reach, waiting to use them.
I don't understand why the fuck it's so God Damn hard for everyone to understand that when you go from a Spread Option Offense to a Pro-Style there's going to be a HUGE learning curve (especially when every player was brought in to run the Spread Option)...EVERYTHING IS FUCKING DIFFERENT, the Offensive staff, minus Coach Troop, was brought in for the Spread (Coach Troop can coach in any Offense).
The Defense is going through almost as drastic of a change as the Offense. They're still utilizing the 4-3 base...THAT'S IT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS FUCKING DIFFERENT. Coach Van Gorder's Defense is a very hard one to get in a year, much less a few months. Also, the Defense is transitioning from a Coach Roof Defense (Night) to a Coach Van Gorder Defense (Day).
Everyone from the Coordinators on down are learning.
Whenever you have to think about what you're doing on the field, everything moves at lightning speed...once the player(s) get more comfortable in what they're doing, they don't have to think, they know and they'll make less mistakes and be in better position to react quicker. That takes time and patience.
It doesn't take a fucking Rocket Surgeon to figure all that out (step back and think for a fucking second).
Call it excuses or what-the-fuck-ever but realize that EVERYTHING that I posted is the fucking truth. Go ahead quit on the Coaching Staff, quit on the players, quit on Auburn. They haven't given up and neither will I.
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Prowler sounds like Alabama fans during the Shula years.
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The helmets were straight as a motherfucker.
(for GH):
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I don't even care anymore dude. Not even gonna remotely defend this shit anymore. Hell even a chiz nickel joke would fitting.
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Until I watched Top Plays on ESPN and saw #2, I did not realize that one of Auburn's scores came when Frazier wobbled around and then threw it up for grabs into a crowd on the last play of the half. Save for that miracle, we were lost.
(http://letslivelifeforonce.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/swisssuicide.jpg)
That jump ball/hail Mary happened right below me about 25 feet from my seat. It had more to do with ulm and their bad defense on that play than anything. Pure luck. 14 of 15 times that play fails.
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I'm glad I didn't go in to watch.
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See what y'all need to do is expect to lose. I kept telling y'all I expected to lose Saturday but no one listened. See if you expect to lose and pull it out well, great. If you expect to lose and do, you don't get quite as mad. Just sayin.
I'm not sure which wagon is where? Is this the fire gene chizik wagon or the support of gene chizik wagon. I think I might be on the fire John L. Smith wagon, I'm so lost. I think I see Kaos. I think I might just walk for awhile, the horse stinks.
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Until I watched Top Plays on ESPN and saw #2, I did not realize that one of Auburn's scores came when Frazier wobbled around and then threw it up for grabs into a crowd on the last play of the half. Save for that miracle, we were lost.
(http://letslivelifeforonce.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/swisssuicide.jpg)
We also had earlier resorted to a double throwback pass where Frazier threw a lateral , then caught a throwback TD pass. First two scores vs ULM came off extreme trickeration, and blind luck.
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I'm glad I didn't go in to watch.
Could have met me!
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Could have met me!
True that but my angst for Auburn football will not allow me to watch the abomination first hand. I have waited half a year for another season of Auburn football. I feel like I've been kicked in the nuts this go around. I'll catch you at the next tailgate.
By the way, meeting some of you degenerates was the best part of the day.
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Knee Jerk reaction.
Also, Kaos, you've been waiting for any slip up on the field and I guess off the field to attack Coach Chizik. If you say that you haven't been, then that's bullshit. You've had your pitchforks and torches within arms reach, waiting to use them.
I don't understand why the fuck it's so God Damn hard for everyone to understand that when you go from a Spread Option Offense to a Pro-Style there's going to be a HUGE learning curve (especially when every player was brought in to run the Spread Option)...EVERYTHING IS FUCKING DIFFERENT, the Offensive staff, minus Coach Troop, was brought in for the Spread (Coach Troop can coach in any Offense).
The Defense is going through almost as drastic of a change as the Offense. They're still utilizing the 4-3 base...THAT'S IT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS FUCKING DIFFERENT. Coach Van Gorder's Defense is a very hard one to get in a year, much less a few months. Also, the Defense is transitioning from a Coach Roof Defense (Night) to a Coach Van Gorder Defense (Day).
Everyone from the Coordinators on down are learning.
Whenever you have to think about what you're doing on the field, everything moves at lightning speed...once the player(s) get more comfortable in what they're doing, they don't have to think, they know and they'll make less mistakes and be in better position to react quicker. That takes time and patience.
It doesn't take a fucking Rocket Surgeon to figure all that out (step back and think for a fucking second).
Call it excuses or what-the-fuck-ever but realize that EVERYTHING that I posted is the fucking truth. Go ahead quit on the Coaching Staff, quit on the players, quit on Auburn. They haven't given up and neither will I.
The bolded part is where you're wrong. Or perhaps illiterate.
My response the current debacle is more measured than most it seems. I do want to bitch slap people who stick their heads in the sand and refuse to recognize that SOMETHING isn't right -- and that something is more than a random X or O.
I'm not sure where I stand, really. And other than the random helmet joke I haven't declared myself king of the orange realm for being right before I was wrong about being right in the first place. Haven't really even brought it up. Because I don't know.
So you can take your little pissy fit and throw it somewhere else.
I can see your point about the system change. Tuberville tried to bring in a different offensive philosophy to compete with Florida and Texas. He wanted to install the more of the spread (the right idea perhaps) and went to a guy he thought was the best at getting that done (too bad he sold snake oil). It was a bad marriage all the way around. The guy he brought in was loony and not ready for prime time. He pissed off the OL coach by wanting everything done a different way. We'd had a pretty good OL for years and that didn't work. The defense didn't buy in because it changed the game for them. It was going to be a process.
Tuberville -- who'd proven way more than Chizik has -- was drummed out of town. You, Prowler, were one of the ones doing the drumming. So he didn't deserve three or five years to get his 'Process" down? Why is your tune so vastly different now than it was then?
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The bolded part is where you're wrong. Or perhaps illiterate.
My response the current debacle is more measured than most it seems. I do want to bitch slap people who stick their heads in the sand and refuse to recognize that SOMETHING isn't right -- and that something is more than a random X or O.
I'm not sure where I stand, really. And other than the random helmet joke I haven't declared myself king of the orange realm for being right before I was wrong about being right in the first place. Haven't really even brought it up. Because I don't know.
So you can take your little pissy fit and throw it somewhere else.
I can see your point about the system change. Tuberville tried to bring in a different offensive philosophy to compete with Florida and Texas. He wanted to install the more of the spread (the right idea perhaps) and went to a guy he thought was the best at getting that done (too bad he sold snake oil). It was a bad marriage all the way around. The guy he brought in was loony and not ready for prime time. He pissed off the OL coach by wanting everything done a different way. We'd had a pretty good OL for years and that didn't work. The defense didn't buy in because it changed the game for them. It was going to be a process.
Tuberville -- who'd proven way more than Chizik has -- was drummed out of town. You, Prowler, were one of the ones doing the drumming. So he didn't deserve three or five years to get his 'Process" down? Why is your tune so vastly different now than it was then?
Not going to re-re-re-re-re-hash the Tubs/Franklin debacle with you, but I put that squarely on Tubs. Even good or great coaches fuck up.
The only similarity here is a change in scheme. Which you can also compare to bringing in Borges, or keeping Nallsminger to avoid a change in scheme. Keeping same (somebody else's...Petrino's) scheme with Nallsminger was a major fail, change in scheme with Borges was completely seamless and a great move. Please, someone look at that, and tell me about Xs and Os being the problem here and have your argument make sense. Even trying to blame Xs and Os here is stupid, and you make that point. Something more is wrong here, and some simply refuse to see it.
And I'm also going to join you with being the last person wanting Chiz to fail. I'm not that guy at all. In fact, I'm quite the opposite.
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I'm a head case for getting behind a Coaching Staff that isn't going to quit (eventhough I would like to see some personnel changes) and 22+ players that haven't quit on me, the fan...then I guess I'm the fuckin looniest mutha fuckin head case on this board.
LOLWhut?
They sure look like they've given up to me. Especially Holland.
I don't understand why the fuck it's so God Damn hard for everyone to understand that when you go from a Spread Option Offense to a Pro-Style there's going to be a HUGE learning curve (especially when every player was brought in to run the Spread Option)...EVERYTHING IS FUCKING DIFFERENT, the Offensive staff, minus Coach Troop, was brought in for the Spread (Coach Troop can coach in any Offense).
The Defense is going through almost as drastic of a change as the Offense. They're still utilizing the 4-3 base...THAT'S IT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS FUCKING DIFFERENT. Coach Van Gorder's Defense is a very hard one to get in a year, much less a few months. Also, the Defense is transitioning from a Coach Roof Defense (Night) to a Coach Van Gorder Defense (Day).
Everyone from the Coordinators on down are learning.
Whenever you have to think about what you're doing on the field, everything moves at lightning speed...once the player(s) get more comfortable in what they're doing, they don't have to think, they know and they'll make less mistakes and be in better position to react quicker. That takes time and patience.
It doesn't take a fucking Rocket Surgeon to figure all that out (step back and think for a fucking second).
Call it excuses or what-the-fuck-ever but realize that EVERYTHING that I posted is the fucking truth. Go ahead quit on the Coaching Staff, quit on the players, quit on Auburn. They haven't given up and neither will I.
Excuses is putting it lightly. Homer induced lunacy is what it is.
You know god damned well that Bama or LSU or any team as elite as you seem to think we are, makes that transition with narry a hiccup. Certainly doesn't drag them down to Sunbelt level.
All the shit you spew is just that, man. Shit. LSU is younger. Bama has had to replace more talent.
How are they achieving the impossible according to you and not tripping over themselves coming out of the tunnel? Oh wait, that's MSU who beat the ever-loving shit out of us last week.
I guess you're the kind of guy that feels the dick in your ass and tries to convince yourself how good it feels. Most of us try to stop the fucking.
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LOLWhut?
They sure look like they've given up to me. Especially Holland.
Excuses is putting it lightly. Homer induced lunacy is what it is.
You know god damned well that Bama or LSU or any team as elite as you seem to think we are, makes that transition with narry a hiccup. Certainly doesn't drag them down to Sunbelt level.
All the shit you spew is just that, man. Shit. LSU is younger. Bama has had to replace more talent.
How are they achieving the impossible according to you and not tripping over themselves coming out of the tunnel? Oh wait, that's MSU who beat the ever-loving shit out of us last week.
I guess you're the kind of guy that feels the dick in your ass and tries to convince yourself how good it feels. Most of us try to stop the fucking.
Fuck!
We agree! :facepalm:
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Well Tub's players are gone and there is very very little player development being done. I remember when this whole debacle was going down someone on here asked me if Chizik won a NC would that be enough to get me to like him. My response was something along the line of "No, it will just make it take longer to get rid of him.". Unlike Prowler's fantasy world that is historical fact. And I invite you to go dig through my old responses and find it.
I do wish they had of kicked this losing fucker to the curb years ago (as I and other level headed alums recommended).
Am I enjoying this clusterfucked shit ball of a season?? No, not at all.
But if and that is a big if we can use this to get rid of him, a certain "ex" coach and certain members of the board.... well in the long run this will be a good thing.
Oh and just for the record, I was never on the chizik wagon at all.
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Oh and just for the record, I was never on the chizik wagon at all.
You were, and still are, however, on the "I love choking down cock and gallons of cum" wagon.
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You were, and still are, however, on the "I love choking down cock and gallons of cum" wagon.
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True that but my angst for Auburn football will not allow me to watch the abomination first hand. I have waited half a year for another season of Auburn football. I feel like I've been kicked in the nuts this go around. I'll catch you at the next tailgate.
By the way, meeting some of you degenerates was the best part of the day.
Are you calling Awk, hsv-beer-nerd and Dallas degenerates?
Great spot Awk. Will def link up with you there at the Aggie game if not before. I'm just sad chizad and vv weren't there to cock fight about tax law and the saints. :thumsup:
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The bus is always open. People come and go.
Nobody's quitting on Auburn, Prowler.
Some are just taking the position that what's occurring on the field (and off, frankly for all the excuses we make) in no way represents what we expect from the highest paid coaching staff in college football, a team that has some of the finest facilities in the nation, and a plays in front of a fanbase that understands and respects the college more so than the score.
We all love Auburn. This? It's not Auburn. Auburn isn't poorly prepared. Auburn isn't a clusterfuck. Auburn isn't the worst pair of quarterbacks in the history of college football. Auburn isn't unable to stop a Sunbelt team.
That's Mississippi State. That's Ole Miss. That's Vandy. That's not what we should be and it's not what we should be expected to accept.
If there were glimmers of hope, if there seemed to be a cohesive plan, if it looked like it was building to something people might be more patient. It does not. It looks like seventh grade backyard football. It looks like disorganized shit. The fucking Bad News Bears.
This isn't where this program should be by any stretch of the imagination. How can you begrudge People's distress?
This. All of it. No glimmers of hope. Nothing but special teams to cling to as a ship being steered properly.
Distress does not begin to cover it.
I have been married to my husband for ten years. He is the best thing to happen to me and I love him so much. But I still get mad at him and upset with him and we have fundamental disagreements from time to time. Not often. But they happen. Doesn't mean I am off his bandwagon. Doesn't mean I am walking out on him at the first sign of a fight. Isn't going to happen. I love him too much. And you can damn well bet that if he were coming home drunk three times a week or couldn't hold a job or was making some bad life choices that I would step up and say something. No denying the reality of something happening right before my eyes. But it still would not mean I stopped loving him. Not sure that would ever or could ever happen.
Those we love the most are the only ones who can hurt us. And right now Auburn football is staggering in the house at 0230 on a Tuesday night, smelling like bourbon and hookers and you, Prowler, are telling me they've been at Bible study, nothing to see here, it will get better, just you wait, bandwagon jumper, and calling me a bad wife for getting pissed off because I have a certain level of realistic expectations.
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Knee Jerk reaction.
Also, Kaos, you've been waiting for any slip up on the field and I guess off the field to attack Coach Chizik. If you say that you haven't been, then that's bullshit. You've had your pitchforks and torches within arms reach, waiting to use them.
I don't understand why the fuck it's so God Damn hard for everyone to understand that when you go from a Spread Option Offense to a Pro-Style there's going to be a HUGE learning curve (especially when every player was brought in to run the Spread Option)...EVERYTHING IS FUCKING DIFFERENT, the Offensive staff, minus Coach Troop, was brought in for the Spread (Coach Troop can coach in any Offense).
The Defense is going through almost as drastic of a change as the Offense. They're still utilizing the 4-3 base...THAT'S IT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS FUCKING DIFFERENT. Coach Van Gorder's Defense is a very hard one to get in a year, much less a few months. Also, the Defense is transitioning from a Coach Roof Defense (Night) to a Coach Van Gorder Defense (Day).
Everyone from the Coordinators on down are learning.
Whenever you have to think about what you're doing on the field, everything moves at lightning speed...once the player(s) get more comfortable in what they're doing, they don't have to think, they know and they'll make less mistakes and be in better position to react quicker. That takes time and patience.
It doesn't take a fucking Rocket Surgeon to figure all that out (step back and think for a fucking second).
Call it excuses or what-the-fuck-ever but realize that EVERYTHING that I posted is the fucking truth. Go ahead quit on the Coaching Staff, quit on the players, quit on Auburn. They haven't given up and neither will I.
After 1 game...yeah. After 2 games...maybe. After 3? No. After 4 seasons...Nope.
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LOLWhut?
They sure look like they've given up to me. Especially Holland.
Excuses is putting it lightly. Homer induced lunacy is what it is.
You know god damned well that Bama or LSU or any team as elite as you seem to think we are, makes that transition with narry a hiccup. Certainly doesn't drag them down to Sunbelt level.
All the shit you spew is just that, man. Shit. LSU is younger. Bama has had to replace more talent.
How are they achieving the impossible according to you and not tripping over themselves coming out of the tunnel? Oh wait, that's MSU who beat the ever-loving shit out of us last week.
I guess you're the kind of guy that feels the dick in your ass and tries to convince yourself how good it feels. Most of us try to stop the fucking.
I'll say this one last fucking time, I hope you and the rest of the fucking retards here will read it.
Not one player has given up yet, I'll let you know when they do (see Knile Davis at Arkansas).
I've never ever thought that Auburn is an elite team (Elite teams don't go 8-4/9-3). If I ever think Auburn is an Elite team, I'll say so.
It shouldn't take half a brain to figure out that, yes uat and LSU have changed personnel at different positions on both Offense and Defense...the system on both sides of the ball, at both Universities have mostly stayed the same.
I can keep explaining it to you and everyone else, but I can't help you understand. Patience is a virtue.
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This. All of it. No glimmers of hope. Nothing but special teams to cling to as a ship being steered properly.
Distress does not begin to cover it.
I have been married to my husband for ten years. He is the best thing to happen to me and I love him so much. But I still get mad at him and upset with him and we have fundamental disagreements from time to time. Not often. But they happen. Doesn't mean I am off his bandwagon. Doesn't mean I am walking out on him at the first sign of a fight. Isn't going to happen. I love him too much. And you can damn well bet that if he were coming home drunk three times a week or couldn't hold a job or was making some bad life choices that I would step up and say something. No denying the reality of something happening right before my eyes. But it still would not mean I stopped loving him. Not sure that would ever or could ever happen.
Those we love the most are the only ones who can hurt us. And right now Auburn football is staggering in the house at 0230 on a Tuesday night, smelling like bourbon and hookers and you, Prowler, are telling me they've been at Bible study, nothing to see here, it will get better, just you wait, bandwagon jumper, and calling me a bad wife for getting pissed off because I have a certain level of realistic expectations.
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*-If during the first year you see signs of improvement from the previous one. (2008 to 2009)
*-If during the second year you more signs of improvement from the previous one, improvement beyond your dreams but you notice some deficiencies (2009 to 2010)
*-If during the third year you see the deficiencies becoming a major problem, so you ask for a major change (2010 to 2011)
*-Now that everything that you wanted to be changed for the better has been changed, you still see those deficiencies (2011 to 2012)
The best thing to do now is to quit and not have any patience or faith that things will get better after all of the positive changes have been made.
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*-If during the first year you see signs of improvement from the previous one. (2008 to 2009)
*-If during the second year you more signs of improvement from the previous one, improvement beyond your dreams but you notice some deficiencies (2009 to 2010)
*-If during the third year you see the deficiencies becoming a major problem, so you ask for a major change (2010 to 2011)
*-Now that everything that you wanted to be changed for the better has been changed, you still see those deficiencies (2011 to 2012)
The best thing to do now is to quit and not have any patience or faith that things will get better after all of the positive changes have been made.
I'll say this one last fucking time, I hope you and the rest of the fucking retards here will read it.
Not one player has given up yet, I'll let you know when they do (see Knile Davis at Arkansas).
I've never ever thought that Auburn is an elite team (Elite teams don't go 8-4/9-3). If I ever think Auburn is an Elite team, I'll say so.
It shouldn't take half a brain to figure out that, yes uat and LSU have changed personnel at different positions on both Offense and Defense...the system on both sides of the ball, at both Universities have mostly stayed the same.
I can keep explaining it to you and everyone else, but I can't help you understand. Patience is a virtue.
Doesn't look to me like they've mentally quit either. I've laid out what I've been told the problems are. Some choose not to believe them. Others, like me, say "yeah, makes perfect sense when you look at the product on the field".
Here's the bottom line. To steal a phrase from Justice Potter Stewart, and tweak it to fit the situation: "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of suckage I understand to be occurring on the field in Auburn; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it,..."
There's more to it than a young QB. There's more to it than changing systems and the learning curve that comes with that. And I, for one, am in the crowd that sees ALL these things. We had to take ULM to OT to beat them. Gave up 28 pts to them. The 2008 team would have beat them 3-0.
Got news for you, opposing teams see it too. ULM played their back up QB in the first half, just because. Browning wasn't hurt, and he's a star in their league. Played the back up just cuz. Message sent to Chiz. "We are going to get our back up some PT vs an SEC opponent, and we think we can still win." Didn't go for 2 on the last TD. Message to Chiz: "We can stop you, and you can't stop us, we are not the weak sister on the field today." A coach that felt he had a lesser team would have gone for 2, and been satisfied losing if it failed because he dared greatly.
Meanwhile, Auburn has to resort to trick plays and Hail Mary's to score and win. Minus those 1st half lucky plays, we lose by 14, at home, to ULM. A half assed Auburn squad would have run base everything, and won 35-3.
The average fan can see there's no "about to turn the corner" here. The average fan that squawks about other coaches that "can't coach" can see Dooley, and Coach Boom have made some strides since last season. May not be great teams, but they know how to play hard and fast.
We are last or next to last in the SEC in nearly every statistical category. This team is 2008 version .02 with not an injured QB, but one that can't play the game, and no defense.
Seriously, how bad does it have to be before you see it?
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Let's step back for just a second.
Take a look at 2011. I don't like "what if" scenarios, but going to play them anyway.
What if AU doesn't get the onsides kick and Trotter doesn't channel half a Cam for two late drives?
What if Mississippi State scores on the last play and goes for two or wins in OT?
AU was a scrotal hair from starting last year 0-2 as well. Could have easily lost to SC. If Moseley doesn't get hurt we lose to Virginia. (Which calls into question the talent decisions being made). Struggled with fucking SAMFORD.
What if Chizik had posted a five or six win season last year? Yeah AU won 8, but we played like a five or six win team.
What would people say today after a 1-2 start? Would the tone be different Prowler?
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I agree with you Kaos and raise you.
Prowler you said you never considered us an elite team, but yet your Grilliz rankings would have us believe the opposite. I agree with you that changing offensive and defensive schemes is a part of the problem, but it is more than that. Not only are we NOT an elite team we aren't even a good team, fuck we aren't even a mediocre team.
Team Offensive Statistics (that sure is offensive)
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stats1.jpg)
Team Dfensive Statistics
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stats2.jpg)
Out of 120 teams. Wow
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I agree with you Kaos and raise you.
Prowler you said you never considered us an elite team, but yet your Grilliz rankings would have us believe the opposite. I agree with you that changing offensive and defensive schemes is a part of the problem, but it is more than that. Not only are we NOT an elite team we aren't even a good team, fuck we aren't even a mediocre team.
Team Offensive Statistics (that sure is offensive)
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stats1.jpg)
Team Dfensive Statistics
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stats2.jpg)
Out of 120 teams. Wow
Good post.
No one ever expected eliteness this year. Is it too much to ask (with the talent we SUPPOSEDLY have) to just NOT suck? We are in the bottom 20 of 120 teams in Total O and D. Unreal. I don't know how anyone can defend that. And it's not exactly against a murderer's row of opponents either. Now, it's really about to get hard (Arky, LSU, Aggie, Vandy, UGA, Bammer). I think 4 or 5 of those teams would beat everyone we've played so far.
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Good post.
No one ever expected eliteness this year. Is it too much to ask (with the talent we SUPPOSEDLY have) to just NOT suck? We are in the bottom 20 of 120 teams in Total O and D. Unreal. I don't know how anyone can defend that. And it's not exactly against a murderer's row of opponents either. Now, it's really about to get hard (Arky, LSU, Aggie, Vandy, UGA, Bammer). I think 4 or 5 of those teams would beat everyone we've played so far.
We'll probably be 112 in both after a couple of weeks.
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Not one player has given up yet, I'll let you know when they do (see Knile Davis at Arkansas).
I've never ever thought that Auburn is an elite team (Elite teams don't go 8-4/9-3). If I ever think Auburn is an Elite team, I'll say so.
Did you inheirit the Drill Press Phone? I wondered what happened to that thing...
I feel so much better that we have you to translate for us and tell us that what we are seeing is all just a mirage that will just go away once we all have a big sip of the Kool Aid you are pounding...
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We'll probably be 112 in both after a couple of weeks.
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poor poor prowlie
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Did you inheirit the Drill Press Phone? I wondered what happened to that thing...
I feel so much better that we have you to translate for us and tell us that what we are seeing is all just a mirage that will just go away once we all have a big sip of the Kool Aid you are pounding...
He is right there in the huddle and at practice, dammit Wench don't question what you don't know.
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poor poor prowlie
Shut the fuck up, bammer!
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poor poor prowlie
Don't you have a little mini-coach's dick to suck?
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poor poor prowlie
Fuck you dude. Go back to the hole in which you crawled out of. You are fucking with the wrong people...
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Fuck you dude. Go back to the hole in which you crawled out of. You are fucking with the wrong people...
I get the feeling that there will another sticky thread coming soon.
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He is right there in the huddle and at practice, dammit Wench don't question what you don't know.
OMG, you're right. I stand chastened. Let me go make all of y'all a sammich and get you a pillow for your back. How about a foot rub? Another beer?
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OMG, you're right. I stand chastened. Let me go make all of y'all a sammich and get you a pillow for your back. How about a foot rub? Another beer?
Yes, yes and yes.
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You know when he was hired I was the only one of you bastiches who dared to refuse to toe the party line. It has taken a while but goddamn it enough with the bammer comments.
I am not nor have I ever been a mother fucking bammer.
Again I challenge you to go back and find one instance where I ever took a pro bama stance. Never in my entire life. Good lord you people open your fucking eyes.
But there is some consolation that you are finally beginning to call a dumb fuck like prowler a dumb fuck.
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You know when he was hired I was the only one of you bastiches who dared to refuse to toe the party line. It has taken a while but goddamn it enough with the bammer comments.
I am not nor have I ever been a mother fucking bammer.
Again I challenge you to go back and find one instance where I ever took a pro bama stance. Never in my entire life. Good lord you people open your fucking eyes.
But there is some consolation that you are finally beginning to call a dumb fuck like prowler a dumb fuck.
Funny how you disappeared until now, go get a life bammer troll.
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I AM A FUCKING IDIOT
Someone please remind me where the "Ignore" button is?
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BTW Calvin you might want to go away or read the thread AWK keeps posting...this is your last warning.
I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
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BTW Calvin you might want to go away or read the thread AWK keeps posting...this is your last warning.
I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
BOOM!
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poor poor prowlie
Fuck you fuckstick.
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BTW Calvin you might want to go away or read the thread AWK keeps posting...this is your last warning.
I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
See, people don't listen until its too late.
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I have a feeling that somebody is about to get Birminghamed.
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I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
Again?
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So here's what I'm worried about. Went to the game this weekend.. had this weird "drink, sober up.. drink again, sober up again.. etc" dynamic going on, but did see some of the younger recruits there. So you're a young kid.. and you go to a big SEC school 2 years removed from a NC. Some of the fans were all gung-ho and whatnot.. some were nice and chilled out.. and some were yelling about how much Auburn & coaching sucks. Pile on top of that the fact that other coaches have started poaching, and you have folks like Mark May saying on college football final "well.. the coaches just aren't coaching the talent there".. hopefully we can recruit where we need.
We had some giant overweight guy sitting in front of us this weekend with a Michael Dyer jersey on.. screaming to put Mosely in or something (he also started screaming for a refund, but that's another story). Like it's been mentioned before, there ISN'T another QB to put in. I think most of us are pretty much considering the season a wash, and praying to recruit some talent (or transfer in some JUCO talent) to fill some gaps (QB is the glaring one to me, Frazier had glimmers of talent this weekend but like a buddy mentioned this weekend.. seems like they dumbed the playbook down in the first half).
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So here's what I'm worried about. Went to the game this weekend.. had this weird "drink, sober up.. drink again, sober up again.. etc" dynamic going on, but did see some of the younger recruits there. So you're a young kid.. and you go to a big SEC school 2 years removed from a NC. Some of the fans were all gung-ho and whatnot.. some were nice and chilled out.. and some were yelling about how much Auburn & coaching sucks. Pile on top of that the fact that other coaches have started poaching, and you have folks like Mark May saying on college football final "well.. the coaches just aren't coaching the talent there".. hopefully we can recruit where we need.
We had some giant overweight guy sitting in front of us this weekend with a Michael Dyer jersey on.. screaming to put Mosely in or something (he also started screaming for a refund, but that's another story). Like it's been mentioned before, there ISN'T another QB to put in. I think most of us are pretty much considering the season a wash, and praying to recruit some talent (or transfer in some JUCO talent) to fill some gaps (QB is the glaring one to me, Frazier had glimmers of talent this weekend but like a buddy mentioned this weekend.. seems like they dumbed the playbook down in the first half).
As much as Frazier had better accuracy in the first half, it went to shit in the second. If there is any hint of a rush he panics and doesn't see the field anymore. Imagine how that is going to go for us this weekend.
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As much as Frazier had better accuracy in the first half, it went to shit in the second. If there is any hint of a rush he panics and doesn't see the field anymore. Imagine how that is going to go for us this weekend.
If he sees a DT get some separation from a blocker, even if the blocker is in a good position to re-engage, at that point, Frazier is running.
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As much as Frazier had better accuracy in the first half, it went to shit in the second. If there is any hint of a rush he panics and doesn't see the field anymore. Imagine how that is going to go for us this weekend.
This weekend? Whoaaaaa boy is it going to be rough. That's just the reality of it, and I plan on drinking quite heavily.
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I tried to warn you Calvin, but since you didn't listen. Nice bammer shirt you have on in a lot of your photos.
After going back and reading that thread.. I'm getting a headache from laughing. Holy shit, there is so much win to behold
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I tried to warn you Calvin, but since you didn't listen. Nice bammer shirt you have on in a lot of your photos.
Why warn? I wish GF would just post some pics of the MF'er! This fucker deserves no warning.
Who invited his ass over here anyway?
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BTW Calvin you might want to go away or read the thread AWK keeps posting...this is your last warning.
I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
Make it so.
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Make it so.
yes, what this guy said
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yes, what this guy said
I third it. I've seen this slug dirtying up Auburn boards for like 6 yrs or so.
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Who invited his ass over here anyway?
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I might know something about that.
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Where'd he go?
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I might know something about that.
So, you showed him your wiener?
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Why warn? I wish GF would just post some pics of the MF'er! This fucker deserves no warning.
Who invited his ass over here anyway?
Calvin has a lot of guns he scares me...that's why.
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Calvin has a lot of guns he scares me...that's why.
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#winning
Looks like he might be waiting on something.
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Calvin has a lot of guns he scares me...that's why.
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"As soon as I shoot my dick off, I'm going to shove this hot poker up my ass"
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BTW Calvin you might want to go away or read the thread AWK keeps posting...this is your last warning.
I'd hate for your two daughters to have cocks in their mouths.
The real reason Calvin hates Auburn has nothing to do with Chizik and everything to do with the fact that his oldest daughter's getting dicked down by an Auburn High School kid.
But he's "dealing with the Auburn thing".
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On or off? I hear the talking heads (most of them) talking about what a great job he is doing while rebuilding the program that was in the dumps. I hear how great we have recruited but yet to see it on the field. I see our defense get worst every year while he is head coach. Wanna blame Roof go ahead CGC hired his ass. I think we can win 4 more games. Vandy?-Ole miss?-NMS-AAM-the rest we get pay back (again) for 2010. I can’t wait to hear what the sky is not falling crowd say when we end up at 5-7 (and that’s a big maybe) and I don’t see it any better next year.
Year 4 of the program across state they were re-loading. They may score 60 on us to rub it in.
And Prowler I have a question; what part of the defensive scheme is not being able tackle?
What do they see when they watch flim on sunday? Are you telling me no one sees the missed assigments-the poor tackling? Good teams make those corrections from game 1 to 2-Not still trying to correct from game 3 to 4.
I am on the Auburn bandwagon, always have been, always will be.
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On or off? I hear the talking heads (most of them) talking about what a great job he is doing while rebuilding the program that was in the dumps. I hear how great we have recruited but yet to see it on the field. I see our defense get worst every year while he is head coach. Wanna blame Roof go ahead CGC hired his ass. I think we can win 4 more games. Vandy?-Ole miss?-NMS-AAM-the rest we get pay back (again) for 2010. I can’t wait to hear what the sky is not falling crowd say when we end up at 5-7 (and that’s a big maybe) and I don’t see it any better next year.
Year 4 of the program across state they were re-loading. They may score 60 on us to rub it in.
And Prowler I have a question; what part of the defensive scheme is not being able tackle?
What do they see when they watch flim on sunday? Are you telling me no one sees the missed assigments-the poor tackling? Good teams make those corrections from game 1 to 2-Not still trying to correct from game 3 to 4.
I am on the Auburn bandwagon, always have been, always will be.
It's not the coaches fault. The players are the ones out there on the field. They need to start tackling better (they go over tackling drills in practice every day, it's nothing new, it's been nearly the same for the past 200 years).
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It's not the coaches fault. The players are the ones out there on the field. They need to start tackling better (they go over tackling drills in practice every day, it's nothing new, it's been nearly the same for the past 200 years).
In a sense you're right, but how is it Saban/Miles/who the fuck ever that plays great defense, can get their guys to tackle, and we can't? It falls on the coaches to find a way.
Old coaching saying: "You're either coaching it, or allowing it to happen."
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It's not the coaches fault. The players are the ones out there on the field. They need to start tackling better (they go over tackling drills in practice every day, it's nothing new, it's been nearly the same for the past 200 years).
Wait it isn't the coaches fault, but the players haven't given up so it isn't their fault. Dammit I blame Clemson for running the ball so much, and MSU for creating so many turnovers, and La. Monroe for going for it on 4th down...fuckin opponents trying to win. Those bastards!
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The real reason Calvin hates Auburn has nothing to do with Chizik and everything to do with the fact that his oldest daughter's getting dicked down by an Auburn High School kid.
But he's "dealing with the Auburn thing".
Wonder if his daughter knows what old Mommy is up too?
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Snap.
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Holy. Fuck.
This needs to have it's on place so this football talk doesn't interfere!
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Wonder if his daughter knows what old Mommy is up too?
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Fucker deserves every shred of what he is getting.
Nice anti Auburn/Cam posts he has on facebook too. Fucker was screaming Scam Newton from the rooftops with the rest of his breathren.
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It's not the coaches fault. The players are the ones out there on the field. They need to start tackling better (they go over tackling drills in practice every day, it's nothing new, it's been nearly the same for the past 200 years).
Ok I'll give you that-then why are we where we are in player development in year 4 of a coach?
And using bama as a measuring stick. Year 4 under nick they were much better than we are.
And don’t give me its Apples to Oranges. It is football.
And let’s play hypothetical, let’s say we lose
LSU 31-14
Arky 35-14
Dawgs 31-10
Bama 49-7
Would you say there is a problem now?
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Wonder if his daughter knows what old Mommy is up too?
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Ok I'll give you that-then why are we where we are in player development in year 4 of a coach?
And using bama as a measuring stick. Year 4 under nick they were much better than we are.
And don’t give me its Apples to Oranges. It is football.
And let’s play hypothetical, let’s say we lose
LSU 31-14
Arky 35-14
Dawgs 31-10
Bama 49-7
Would you say there is a problem now?
Nobody cares anymore. It's weasel roadkill day.
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LSU 31-14
Arky 35-14
Dawgs 31-10
Bama 49-7
You really think our offense can improve that much?
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Honestly, I am thinking if we score 7 on LSU this weekend I will consider it a win. Hate to give fucking anything to uat...lets just say if we played them tomorrow our score would look like the Arkansas score.
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See, newbies? This is what happens when you pretend to be an Auburn fan and we find out that you're an inbred retarded bammer fan instead.
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See, newbies? This is what happens when you pretend to be an Auburn fan and we find out that you're an inbred retarded bammer fan instead.
In the past 72 hours you have accused 90% of this board of being an inbred retarted bammer fan, including GF. Hope you have some photoshop skillz.
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See, newbies? This is what happens when you pretend to be an Auburn fan and we find out that you're an inbred retarded bammer fan instead.
In all fairness, you're and inbred retarded Auburn fan. So, I'm not sure where that puts you on the totem pole.
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You really think our offense can improve that much?
I was thinking it would be against their 3rd string and some band members.
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In all fairness, you're and inbred retarded Auburn fan. So, I'm not sure where that puts you on the totem pole.
You really shouldn't be pointing any fingers.
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I was thinking it would be against their 3rd string and some band members.
I don't know - didn't their trombone guy kick Damon Duvall's ass in the endzone one year?
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I don't know - didn't their trombone guy kick Damon Duvall's ass in the endzone one year?
I believe that was 10RC's tromboner
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In the past 72 hours you have accused 90% of this board of being an inbred retarted bammer fan, including GF. Hope you have some photoshop skillz.
Maybe you should learn to read...I stated that anyone that wants to fire everyone and not give the coaches and the team a chance to improve are retarded, inbred fans. I said nothing about being bammer fans.
Not every retarded, inbred fan is a bammer fan, but every bammer fan is retarded and inbred.
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You know when he was hired I was the only one of you bastiches who dared to refuse to toe the party line. It has taken a while but goddamn it enough with the bammer comments.
I am not nor have I ever been a mother fucking bammer.
Again I challenge you to go back and find one instance where I ever took a pro bama stance. Never in my entire life. Good lord you people open your fucking eyes.
But there is some consolation that you are finally beginning to call a dumb fuck like prowler a dumb fuck.
Come out come out wherever you are.
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Come out come out wherever you are.
Funny how he said this......
Again I challenge you to go back and find one instance where I ever took a pro bama stance. Never in my entire life.
I wonder if he would like to put a wager on that? Because I think it can be found.
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Funny how he said this......
I wonder if he would like to put a wager on that? Because I think it can be found.
Yeah, there's plenty to choose from.
Imagine this douche in social settings.
"Hehe. Check THIS out. So basically what I do with mah free time, is I've created this fake internet persona, right? And get this - he's a Auburn fan. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL. See this Auburn fan hates Cheese-Nik. Also I made up this whole thing about Pat Dye fuckin over mah fam'ly. I was vague enough about it that those dumb barners have GOT to believe it. So basically what I do is I take this act on the road. I'm on about 13 or 14 different Auburn boards. MAN it burns them barners up when I say I'm a Auburn fan but talk about wontin Cheese-Nik to be farred. Hehe. It's GREAT man. Then I talk about Dye an what a filthy cheater he was and still is. And tell 'em I'm real in-the-know lak. They can tell cause I tell em stuff about how Dye's really pullin all the strangs in that program, and, well, ERRbody knows that's what's really goin on on them Plains."
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Yeah, there's plenty to choose from.
Imagine this douche in social settings.
"Hehe. Check THIS out. So basically what I do with mah free time, is I've created this fake internet persona, right? And get this - he's a Auburn fan. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL. See this Auburn fan hates Cheese-Nik. Also I made up this whole thing about Pat Dye fuckin over mah fam'ly. I was vague enough about it that those dumb barners have GOT to believe it. So basically what I do is I take this act on the road. I'm on about 13 or 14 different Auburn boards. MAN it burns them barners up when I say I'm a Auburn fan but talk about wontin Cheese-Nik to be farred. Hehe. It's GREAT man. Then I talk about Dye an what a filthy cheater he was and still is. And tell 'em I'm real in-the-know lak. They can tell cause I tell em stuff about how Dye's really pullin all the strangs in that program, and, well, ERRbody knows that's what's really goin on on them Plains."
He gots mad skillz.
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Yeah, there's plenty to choose from.
Imagine this douche in social settings.
"Hehe. Check THIS out. So basically what I do with mah free time, is I've created this fake internet persona, right? And get this - he's a Auburn fan. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL. See this Auburn fan hates Cheese-Nik. Also I made up this whole thing about Pat Dye fuckin over mah fam'ly. I was vague enough about it that those dumb barners have GOT to believe it. So basically what I do is I take this act on the road. I'm on about 13 or 14 different Auburn boards. MAN it burns them barners up when I say I'm a Auburn fan but talk about wontin Cheese-Nik to be farred. Hehe. It's GREAT man. Then I talk about Dye an what a filthy cheater he was and still is. And tell 'em I'm real in-the-know lak. They can tell cause I tell em stuff about how Dye's really pullin all the strangs in that program, and, well, ERRbody knows that's what's really goin on on them Plains."
Nice.
Nothing like being dumb enough to leave the truth out there where everyone can read it. You know, in PUBLIC.
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So, I'm guessing greasey bammer left the board again...figures.
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So, I'm guessing greasey bammer left the board again...figures.
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greaseyweasel
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Agree with the sentiment, but mine was biographically accurate.
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Agree with the sentiment, but mine was biographically accurate.
I just thought you had a new found love for NASCAR.
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So greasy gets raped over the coals and doesn't have the sack to take it like a man?
Bitch was asking for it.