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Title: Time for a change Coach
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 01:27:36 PM
We have to try Clint or J Wallace. I'm sure KF has the potential to be a great QB but we have to get more production at the position. I hope they will at least give one of them a shot to see if it can give us a boost.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:58:37 PM
Loeffler just needs to "coach him up".  Develop him.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 02:06:18 PM
By the way, fuck a healthy Moseley, much less an injured one.  If change is made, it should be giving Wallace a shot.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: chinook on September 08, 2012, 02:06:57 PM
i agree, time for coach change.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
i agree, time for coach change.

Based on what I see so far, that's likely to happen by year's end.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Based on what I see so far, that's likely to happen by year's end.

Maybe before then  We are staring at 3-9
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
Maybe before then  We are staring at 3-9

I hate to say it, but it may be the right thing to do.  When you have an 8-5 team loaded with Freshmen, and take 3 steps back, something it wrong.

I'll give him the Tubs treatment.  "Thanks for what you got done, but it's time to go now." 
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Jumbo on September 08, 2012, 02:47:35 PM
Let's fire everyone and kick all the players off the team.  :thumsup:
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Greaseyweasel on September 08, 2012, 02:57:45 PM
Are we ready to be reasonable now?
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 08, 2012, 02:58:40 PM
Are we ready to be reasonable now?
No way.  You showed up?  Hahaha
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 03:01:16 PM
Are we ready to be reasonable now?

Fuck you cock sucking bammer fuckstick.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Yoda on September 08, 2012, 03:04:34 PM
Was sitting in the stands with 45 seconds left in the third and thought Frazier was definitely not coming in the game.  Mosley must be some kind of fucked up to not play him after today.  62 yards rushing in the first half and -2 passing.  Frazier is not the only problem, Loeffler has no business coaching in the SEC.  Terrible hire. 

I hate to say it but I am seriously doubting Chiziks ability right now.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: chinook on September 08, 2012, 03:07:09 PM
Let's fire everyone and kick all the players off the team.  :thumsup:

careful, jumbo...sarcasm isn't recognized by this bunch.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Yoda on September 08, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
careful, jumbo...sarcasm isn't recognized by this bunch.

Where is the sarcasm?  We weren't even competitive against MSU.  Are you fucking kidding me?
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 04:28:44 PM
Where is the sarcasm?  We weren't even competitive ANYTHING against MSU.  Are you fucking kidding me?

adjusted it.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: The Prowler on September 08, 2012, 04:57:35 PM
MSU is a pretty good football team (they're what Utah State was last year)...the negative is that we have missing links in every facet of the team, excluding Special Teams. Utah State, from last year, would beat us this year...about the same as what MSU did.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
MSU is a pretty good football team (they're what Utah State was last year)...the negative is that we have missing links in every facet of the team, excluding Special Teams. Utah State, from last year, would beat is this year...about the same as what MSU did.

Please explain to me why in a head coaches 4th (will most of his staff in tact) year we are where we are?
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Yoda on September 08, 2012, 06:04:35 PM
MSU is a pretty good football team (they're what Utah State was last year)...the negative is that we have missing links in every facet of the team, excluding Special Teams. Utah State, from last year, would beat us this year...about the same as what MSU did.

You are either really drunk or plain stupid.  I hope you are really drunk.  MSU will not beat another SEC west team this year except Ole Piss.  They are not a really good team.  They are better than us but that is not saying a whole lot.

While we are at it, the whole we are young, the other team is a good team, I'm tired of it shut the fuck up we suck, we sucked last year and from what I can tell we will suck next year.

Fire up the fucking jet and we might have some hope in 3 years
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: The Prowler on September 08, 2012, 06:44:45 PM
You are either really drunk or plain stupid.  I hope you are really drunk.  MSU will not beat another SEC west team this year except Ole Piss.  They are not a really good team.  They are better than us but that is not saying a whole lot.

While we are at it, the whole we are young, the other team is a good team, I'm tired of it shut the fuck up we suck, we sucked last year and from what I can tell we will suck next year.

Fire up the fucking jet and we might have some hope in 3 years
Apparently you can't fucking read. I said that MSU is pretty good which they are, not really good like you stated. Also, we are fucking young...we didn't all of a sudden become a veteran team after one game. We were young to start the season, we're still young two weeks into the season. I don't give two shits if you're tired of hearing it, it's the fucking truth.

Add to the young team, we have a NEW OC/QB Coach, a NEW DC, a NEW Secondary Coach and a NEW LBer Coach.

It's going to take a little fuckin time to get everyone on the same page and for everyone to unlearn from the previous Coordinators and learn from the new Coordinators...as well as getting the players in that are capable to succeed in their style of play calling.

Also, 8-5 last year does not suck with everything Coach Chizik had to replace...while still having Coach Roof as the DC.

So, that being said, you're the one that should shut the fuck up and stop crying. You and dallaswareagle.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: AWK on September 08, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
Apparently you can't fucking read. I said that MSU is pretty good which they are, not really good like you stated. Also, we are fucking young...we didn't all of a sudden become a veteran team after one game. We were young to start the season, we're still young two weeks into the season. I don't give two shits if you're tired of hearing it, it's the fucking truth.

Add to the young team, we have a NEW OC/QB Coach, a NEW DC, a NEW Secondary Coach and a NEW LBer Coach.

It's going to take a little fuckin time to get everyone on the same page and for everyone to unlearn from the previous Coordinators and learn from the new Coordinators...as well as getting the players in that are capable to succeed in their style of play calling.

Also, 8-5 last year does not suck with everything Coach Chizik had to replace...while still having Coach Roof as the DC.

So, that being said, you're the one that should shut the fuck up and stop crying. You and dallaswareagle.
"Pretty" good and "really" good.  Huge distinction there prowler...  I don't understand your inability to admit the fact that we are fucking terrible. Period. Miss. State is not good.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
MSU is a pretty good football team (they're what Utah State was last year)...the negative is that we have missing links in every facet of the team, excluding Special Teams. Utah State, from last year, would beat us this year...about the same as what MSU did.
No I actually watched Utah and Utah State and that was a fucking train wreck- no offensive 3rd down comversions for either team. Just bad football!
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 08, 2012, 06:55:37 PM
Apparently you can't fucking read. I said that MSU is pretty good which they are, not really good like you stated. Also, we are fucking young...we didn't all of a sudden become a veteran team after one game. We were young to start the season, we're still young two weeks into the season. I don't give two shits if you're tired of hearing it, it's the fucking truth.

Add to the young team, we have a NEW OC/QB Coach, a NEW DC, a NEW Secondary Coach and a NEW LBer Coach.

It's going to take a little fuckin time to get everyone on the same page and for everyone to unlearn from the previous Coordinators and learn from the new Coordinators...as well as getting the players in that are capable to succeed in their style of play calling.

Also, 8-5 last year does not suck with everything Coach Chizik had to replace...while still having Coach Roof as the DC.

So, that being said, you're the one that should shut the fuck up and stop crying. You and dallaswareagle.

You're out of your mind, but that's okay.  We all enjoy our football in our own way. 
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: The Prowler on September 08, 2012, 07:04:43 PM
"Pretty" good and "really" good.  Huge distinction there prowler...  I don't understand your inability to admit the fact that we are fucking terrible. Period. Miss. State is not good.
LSU & UGA are really good. uat, USC & Clemson are really, really good. MSU is pretty good. Do you now see the distinction there? Auburn was not a good team today, which means they regressed a lot from last week's game against Clemson.

Can Auburn become a good team? Yes (8-4 is still a possibility).

Are they a good team right now? No (5-7 or worse if they don't correct their mistakes).

Do they have the correct players on the field right now? IMO, no (Slade, Holland & Whitehead need to be replaced, the question about Holland is who do you replace him with).
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: The Prowler on September 08, 2012, 07:09:21 PM
You're out of your mind, but that's okay.  We all enjoy our football in our own way.
Point out where I was ”out of my mind” in that post.  I'll wait.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: AWK on September 08, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
LSU & UGA are really good. uat, USC & Clemson are really, really good. MSU is pretty good. Do you now see the distinction there? Auburn was not a good team today, which means they regressed a lot from last week's game against Clemson.

Can Auburn become a good team? Yes (8-4 is still a possibility).

Are they a good team right now? No (5-7 or worse if they don't correct their mistakes).

Do they have the correct players on the field right now? IMO, no (Slade, Holland & Whitehead need to be replaced, the question about Holland is who do you replace him with).
Are there any really really really really really really really really good teams?  Whats the really really differential?
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
It makes not a bit of damn difference what any of you think. All that really matters is what I think. And I think I'll have a shot of booze and try to forget what I witnessed this morning. Maybe it is just a bad dream. Maybe someone slipped some LSD into my burrito last night.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Point out where I was ”out of my mind” in that post.  I'll wait.
Look here brother. I'm a crazy MFing homer too. But you and I both know what piss poor football looks like. You're no less a fan nor devout follower in admitting to me or anyone else that which took place in Starkville. There must be change and a few simple position moves isn't going to change the decline. Too much talent, not enough production.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
It makes not a bit of damn difference what any of you think. All that really matters is what I think. And I think I'll have a shot of booze and try to forget what I witnessed this morning. Maybe it is just a bad dream. Maybe someone slipped some LSD into my burrito last night.
You go right ahead and do what you feel is best. Liquor should provide some much needed insulation against the pain you have recently experienced. :bar: To better days!
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: RWS on September 08, 2012, 08:10:41 PM
uat, USC & Clemson are really, really good.
If giving up 27 points to Ball State (Clemson) is really, really good, then holy shit. If beating Syracuse by only 13 points while letting them score 29 on you and have more offensive production than you (USC) is really, really good...... :facepalm:.

Clemson also gave up more yards to Ball State on defense than they gave up to Auburn's offense. Ball State's defense held Clemson's offense to less yards than Auburn's defense held Clemson's offense to. 
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
If giving up 27 points to Ball State (Clemson) is really, really good, then holy shit. If beating Syracuse by only 13 points while letting them score 29 on you and have more offensive production than you (USC) is really, really good...... :facepalm:.

Clemson also gave up more yards to Ball State on defense than they gave up to Auburn's offense. Ball State's defense held Clemson's offense to less yards than Auburn's defense held Clemson's offense to.
Not so! Teams have let-ups and get into their depth charts. If you have ever gambled on sports you know better that to compare scores, EVER!
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: RWS on September 08, 2012, 08:35:13 PM
Not so! Teams have let-ups and get into their depth charts. If you have ever gambled on sports you know better that to compare scores, EVER!
USC still had their starters in with 5 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: jmar on September 08, 2012, 08:52:09 PM
USC still had their starters in with 5 minutes left in the game.
Their short-coming IS their depth.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: RWS on September 08, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
Their short-coming IS their depth.
They have 18 JRs and SRs in their two deep. Some of those are redshirt juniors or seniors. Did you see any of that game? Half of the SEC could beat USC.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
Apparently you can't fucking read. I said that MSU is pretty good which they are, not really good like you stated. Also, we are fucking young...we didn't all of a sudden become a veteran team after one game. We were young to start the season, we're still young two weeks into the season. I don't give two shits if you're tired of hearing it, it's the fucking truth.

Add to the young team, we have a NEW OC/QB Coach, a NEW DC, a NEW Secondary Coach and a NEW LBer Coach.

It's going to take a little fuckin time to get everyone on the same page and for everyone to unlearn from the previous Coordinators and learn from the new Coordinators...as well as getting the players in that are capable to succeed in their style of play calling.

Also, 8-5 last year does not suck with everything Coach Chizik had to replace...while still having Coach Roof as the DC.

So, that being said, you're the one that should shut the fuck up and stop crying. You and dallaswareagle.

I don't think you understand, For 3 years we have been told how good we have been recruiting, that we have brought in the best staff and excluding 2010 what the FUCK do we have to show for it????

I like other folks are the biggest fans ( got a weekend trip coming up) I just want to understand (ask this before) How does our cross state turds re-load and we don't???????
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 08, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
Clemson also gave up more yards to Ball State on defense than they gave up to Auburn's offense. Ball State's defense held Clemson's offense to less yards than Auburn's defense held Clemson's offense to.
Ball State is good; just not really good.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
I don't think you understand, For 3 years we have been told how good we have been recruiting, that we have brought in the best staff and excluding 2010 what the fudge do we have to show for it????

I like other folks are the biggest fans ( got a weekend trip coming up) I just want to understand (ask this before) How does our cross state turds re-load and we don't???????
I ask myself the same question. I don't know the answer but I have faith that we are headed in the right direction. Even with the shotty performances these last 2 games and the blow out losses we had last year. I am convinced that the shift from the Malzahn system to more of a so called pro-set and the change in coordinators will take time to make a difference. It really doesn't matter when there is qb play like we had today. CGC seemed to try to cover for KF in the presser but his performance was one of the worst I've seen an AU QB have. Sure, there were other areas bad--still poor tackling, Holland looked like he was running in circles, etc BUT the most glaring defeciency in my mind is QB. We could have had the 2010 AU O line and the '95 Bama D on the field for us today and lost the game with KF's performance.  I'm trying to face the likely reality that it is going to be a loooooong season.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 10:00:39 PM
I ask myself the same question. I don't know the answer but I have faith that we are headed in the right direction. Even with the shotty performances these last 2 games and the blow out losses we had last year. I am convinced that the shift from the Malzahn system to more of a so called pro-set and the change in coordinators will take time to make a difference. It really doesn't matter when there is qb play like we had today. CGC seemed to try to cover for KF in the presser but his performance was one of the worst I've seen an AU QB have. Sure, there were other areas bad--still poor tackling, Holland looked like he was running in circles, etc BUT the most glaring defeciency in my mind is QB. We could have had the 2010 AU O line and the '95 Bama D on the field for us today and lost the game with KF's performance.  I'm trying to face the likely reality that it is going to be a loooooong season.

Explain the defense under a defense minded head coach?
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Yoda on September 08, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
Apparently you can't fucking read. I said that MSU is pretty good which they are, not really good like you stated. Also, we are fucking young...we didn't all of a sudden become a veteran team after one game. We were young to start the season, we're still young two weeks into the season. I don't give two shits if you're tired of hearing it, it's the fucking truth.

Add to the young team, we have a NEW OC/QB Coach, a NEW DC, a NEW Secondary Coach and a NEW LBer Coach.

It's going to take a little fuckin time to get everyone on the same page and for everyone to unlearn from the previous Coordinators and learn from the new Coordinators...as well as getting the players in that are capable to succeed in their style of play calling.

Also, 8-5 last year does not suck with everything Coach Chizik had to replace...while still having Coach Roof as the DC.

So, that being said, you're the one that should shut the fuck up and stop crying. You and dallaswareagle.

Dude, my bad really good and a good team are totally different.  In any case MSU is neither.

I don't want you to think that I'm picking on you but you have got o get off the kool aid.  Blah blah blah this is th same shit I have heard over and over.  Oh Roof sucks that's the problem, oh we recruited for the spread that is the problem, oh we ar young that is the problem.  Honestly how many years in a row can we be young, don't they grow up eventually?

Even if we are young this year why is that?  Chizik and staff have been recruiting for 4 years now, at some point players are going to have to be able to become academically eligible and we are going to have to be able to keep them on the team for at least 3 years.

I do love Auburn football more than the normal fan, but a spade is a spade.

That is all, I'll shut up now.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 10:21:13 PM
Explain the defense under a defense minded head coach?
I can't. It doesn't make any sense to me other than we don't have the players. That's CGC's responsibility to get them--I know. Also, that Tampa 2 bs is kind of wearing thin with me.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Jumbo on September 09, 2012, 03:57:59 AM
Our Qb was 1-7 with -2 yards and 2 int's at the half, The fact that he was left in the game really scares me. It tells me that we don't have anyone better than -2 yards passing in 2 quarters of football. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 09, 2012, 08:44:54 AM
Our Qb was 1-7 with -2 yards and 2 int's at the half, The fact that he was left in the game really scares me. It tells me that we don't have anyone better than -2 yards passing in 2 quarters of football. :facepalm:
I agree.. I think they want to show confidence in him in order to build him up and I understand that. At the same time, we need a win. Any win. We have several former hs qb's on the team. I'm ready to start moving down the list.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: Josh007 on September 10, 2012, 11:31:13 AM
I agree.. I think they want to show confidence in him in order to build him up and I understand that. At the same time, we need a win. Any win. We have several former hs qb's on the team. I'm ready to start moving down the list.
Yes. Not to panic, but moving down the list may be the best choice at this point. Those numbers before halftime were ridiculous.
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: CCTAU on September 10, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
They should bring Moseley in to run wildcat every 6 plays or so!
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 10, 2012, 01:47:34 PM
They should bring Moseley anybody in to run wildcat every 6 plays or so!

FTFY
Title: Re: Time for a change Coach
Post by: HSVBeerNerd on September 10, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
FTFY

Hmmmm...works in EA sports. Seems legit!

Explain the defense under a defense minded head coach?
Just read this stat on ESPN aka The Mothership: "and on defense, the Tigers have given up 916 yards and 51 first downs in their first two games." My only explanation?? Uhh.. maybe we're trying to wear out the offense with them running down the field so much that they end up tired at the end of it?? Maybe it's like Men Who Stare at Goats, footbaw style!