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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Tiger Wench on August 15, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
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From a blog I read:
Paul Ryan's selection just moved Hillary Clinton from "possible" to "probable" as Biden's replacement on the 2012 Dem ticket. Look for Slow Joe to find a sudden yearing to become an elder statesman who has more time to spend with his family. I'll bet Hill & Bill are having champagne tonight. Even most of my Democratic friends will admit, if pressed, that it would be a good thing for the country to get Joe Biden out of the line of presidential succession....
Discuss...
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From a blog I read:
Discuss...
I've been reading rumblings in the political forums and aggregate sites that I haunt about this sea-change to the "Hope and Change ticket" too but they always seem to be tempered with the perceived factor that The Pharaoh and the Clintons have no political fondness for one another. Is it plausible, yes, in my opinion. The likely time to make the change is at the Dem Convention in Charlotte next month.
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I think I made a thread about this a few months ago.
I can't see Biden continuing on. Name one thing he's brought to this administration that the Obama campaign can brag about.
There's nothing!
No one says, "Well, the healthcare bill was really pushed through thanks to those motivational, inspirational speeches from the vice president."
There's nothing, and Biden won't stand a chance in an actual debate.
However, does Hillary want to be vice-president under Obama?
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I think I made a thread about this a few months ago.
I can't see Biden continuing on. Name one thing he's brought to this administration that the Obama campaign can brag about.
There's nothing!
No one says, "Well, the healthcare bill was really pushed through thanks to those motivational, inspirational speeches from the vice president."
There's nothing, and Biden won't stand a chance in an actual debate.
However, does Hillary want to be vice-president under Obama?
He was in the room when The Pharaoh personally shot Osama in the head...
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Serious question: Can you do that, barring impeachment? And if so, has it been done before?
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God I hope he stays. Hillary would actually give him a chance.
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God I hope he stays. Hillary would actually give him a chance.
Yes, very much so.
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Serious question: Can you do that, barring impeachment? And if so, has it been done before?
What? Change vice-presidents?
Yeah. FDR did it. Ford did it.
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What? Change vice-presidents?
Yeah. FDR did it. Ford did it.
Did not know that. Both before my time (and yours).
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God I hope he stays. Hillary would actually give him a chance.
I agree. Hillary would give him a big chance; this is one political chess-move that causes me some anxiety about this election.
Let's hope they keep Joe...
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Did not know that. Both before my time (and yours).
A party can technically nominate and run a new presidential candidate as well as a VP in lieu of a currently sitting president of that party; in the process effectively removing a sitting president from office; I think this almost happened to Jimmy Carter if I recall...don't have time to look it up right now.
*Edit: I remembered right; this did almost happen to Jimmy Carter in the election 1980; Ted Kennedy almost got the nomination for the Dems that year which would have removed Carter as a choice and removed him as President.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/15/obama-defends-biden-on-chains-remark/
This says it all:
Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee and a Fox News contributor, had said Biden's comments are the latest example of how he "really drags down that ticket."
But Obama, in an interview with "Entertainment Tonight," downplayed Palin's comments.
:facepalm:
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A party can technically nominate and run a new presidential candidate as well as a VP in lieu of a currently sitting president of that party; in the process effectively removing a sitting president from office; I think this almost happened to Jimmy Carter if I recall...don't have time to look it up right now.
*Edit: I remembered right; this did almost happen to Jimmy Carter in the election 1980; Ted Kennedy almost got the nomination for the Dems that year which would have removed Carter as a choice and removed him as President.
That's an interesting "What if" game. What if the democrats replaced Carter with Kennedy before the 1980 election? Could Kennedy's name help him beat the less experienced actor, Ronald Reagan?
And then which direction would the country have gone?
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What? Change vice-presidents?
Yeah. FDR did it. Ford did it.
And Ford's was a serious double cross of Nelson Rockefeller.
Read about it...very interesting. A lot of the neocon movement was bred during this time.
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More speculation:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/today-day_650058.html
Perhaps further fueling speculation that Barack Obama may replace Joe Biden on the Democratic presidential ticket with, say, Hillary Clinton, take a look at part of the president's schedule for today:
10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing
Oval Office
Closed Press
10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton
Oval Office
Closed Press
12:30PM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet for lunch
Private Dining Room
Closed Press
Will President Obama deliver the bad news to Biden at 10:15? And, in the 10:45 meeting, arrange the handoff to Hillary?
If so, there's a nice condolence lunch with Biden to make him fell better set for 12:30.
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More speculation:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/today-day_650058.html
Closed press too. Interesting.
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The more speculation I hear about this replacement of Joe Biden the less likely I think it's going to happen; I don't think that The Pharaoh wants anyone competent in that position.
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The more speculation I hear about this replacement of Joe Biden the less likely I think it's going to happen; I don't think that The Pharaoh wants anyone competent in that position.
You know...you are right. His ego is that big. Hillary may make him look foolish. After all, she was much more qualified to win the 2008 nomination than him. And he knows it.
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Drudge is saying now that despite that closed door lunch speculation, WH is still sticking with Biden.
Good.
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The more speculation I hear about this replacement of Joe Biden the less likely I think it's going to happen; I don't think that The Pharaoh wants anyone competent in that position. In his Administration.
Adjusted it
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Drudge is saying now that despite that closed door lunch speculation, WH is still sticking with Biden.
Good.
I wonder if it was a "shut the fuck up" meeting.
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I wonder if it was a "shut the fuck up" meeting.
Why? Nobody (msm) calls him on what he says.
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I wonder if it was a "shut the fuck up" meeting.
I'm sure that it was all pro forma; they probably all had lite soy-lattes and talked about how smart they think that they are...and how dumb that they think we are...and how great the "closed meeting" will "message" and "project" to the public in the 24hour news cycle.
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Adjusted it
:bar:
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The One would never admit he was wrong about anything.
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The One would never admit he was wrong about anything.
Becasue he has never been wrong and you have been reported.
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Dallas, I'm thinking you should just report everyone on this thread, not just Snaggle.
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Dallas, I'm thinking you should just report everyone on this thread, not just Snaggle.
It's safe to assume that The ONE's administration has tasked an entire Section of the NSA to monitor the Political Forum alone on teh X.
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It's safe to assume that The ONE's administration has tasked an entire Section of the NSA to monitor the Political Forum alone on teh X.
THIS ^^^ even Chizad for reporting that we are in a bad recovery! All of you - heads off!
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That's an interesting "What if" game. What if the democrats replaced Carter with Kennedy before the 1980 election? Could Kennedy's name help him beat the less experienced actor, Ronald Reagan?
And then which direction would the country have gone?
Interesting questions, THS. Far be it from me to alienate the agnostics and atheists on this board but I thank the good Lord above that we had Reagan when we did! What a foreign policy disaster Kennedy would have been against the intimidation and advances of the Soviet Union! Hell, "Red Dawn" would be a documentary, not just a fictional movie!
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Interesting questions, THS. Far be it from me to alienate the agnostics and atheists on this board but I thank the good Lord above that we had Reagan when we did! What a foreign policy disaster Kennedy would have been against the intimidation and advances of the Soviet Union! Hell, "Red Dawn" would be a documentary, not just a fictional movie!
And sorry THS, but I hope you were being sarcastic when you said "less experienced actor". Reagan hadn't been an actor for quite some time and had been the Governor of the biggest state economy in the US with success for a while. He had far more executive experience than "drowning pool Teddy".
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Had a lot of time in the car today. 7 hours total of driving for a 15 minute hearing in Baldwin County. Anywho, listened to a lot of talk radio, more specifically the Neil Bortz (sp?) show. I don't listen to a lot of political shows so I don't know many of the players. A guy named Eric Erikson was filling in and he unashamedly tabbed himself as a right wing conservative. A few observations. First, he was ripping Biden a new one with a ton of soundbites that did more than enough to solidify the VP as one of the most goofy ass retards holding any office, especially one as significant as this one.
Also, the show is where I got the take on The One not admitting he was wrong. This guy said he felt Biden would remain in his position as he truly believes it's that important to Obama to never admit or even give the impression he was wrong, especially about the very first decision he made in his Presidency.
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Dallas, I'm thinking you should just report everyone on this thread, not just Snaggle.
I self reported but they told me they already had enough on me.
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And sorry THS, but I hope you were being sarcastic when you said "less experienced actor". Reagan hadn't been an actor for quite some time and had been the Governor of the biggest state economy in the US with success for a while. He had far more executive experience than "drowning pool Teddy".
I was more so using modern campaign techniques, but yeah, sarcasm was present.
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I was more so using modern campaign techniques, but yeah, sarcasm was present.
Bettah than a Peenut Farhmuh from Plains Gawjah?
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Had a lot of time in the car today. 7 hours total of driving for a 15 minute hearing in Baldwin County. Anywho, listened to a lot of talk radio, more specifically the Neil Bortz (sp?) show. I don't listen to a lot of political shows so I don't know many of the players. A guy named Eric Erikson was filling in and he unashamedly tabbed himself as a right wing conservative. A few observations. First, he was ripping Biden a new one with a ton of soundbites that did more than enough to solidify the VP as one of the most goofy ass retards holding any office, especially one as significant as this one.
Also, the show is where I got the take on The One not admitting he was wrong. This guy said he felt Biden would remain in his position as he truly believes it's that important to Obama to never admit or even give the impression he was wrong, especially about the very first decision he made in his Presidency.
I listen to a fair amount of talk radio...consider yourself lucky that you didn't have to listen to that arrogant, blowhard, libertarian extremist (Neal Boortz).
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Bettah than a Peenut Farhmuh from Plains Gawjah?
Terrible as he was I know of someOne worse.
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I listen to a fair amount of talk radio...consider yourself lucky that you didn't have to listen to that arrogant, blowhard, libertarian extremist (Neal Boortz).
Wut? Liberal? No way.
Read his book "Someones Got To Say It". One page you will love him, then next you will want to choke him to death. It's a good read and he makes a lot of valid points. I wouldn't call him Liberal though.
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Wut? Liberal? No way.
Read his book "Someones Got To Say It". One page you will love him, then next you will want to choke him to death. It's a good read and he makes a lot of valid points. I wouldn't call him Liberal though.
A foaming-at-the-mouth Libertarian, yes.
I would not say he's a liberal.
I simply cannot tolerate the bloviating windbag; glad he's retiring soon.
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A foaming-at-the-mouth Libertarian, yes.
I would not say he's a liberal.
I simply cannot tolerate the bloviating windbag; glad he's retiring soon.
I don't care for his delivery either. He's very arrogant.
At least Rush is entertaining. And usually correct.
I like Savage as well. And Mark Levine.
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I don't care for his delivery either. He's very arrogant.
At least Rush is entertaining. And usually correct.
I like Savage as well. And Mark Levine.
I can't stand Rush, I can listen to his show on Monday, tune back in on Thursday and he will still be harping about the same thing. He gets old to me. Savage, I can take him or leave him. More often than not, leave him. He can be a pompous ass himself, reminds me of Boortz in a way. He can be a dickhead to callers. I once heard him be a total dick to a guy who was a conservationist, but b/c he didn't agree with Savage about something, he was made fun of and talked to like a dog and called a enviro whack job and they guy was anything but that. Boortz, like I said, one minute I love the guy, the next I want to drive to ATL and shoot in the face with a Bazooka. Hannity, meh, to much Neo-Con for me. I haven't heard one in a while that I liked enough to listen in daily.
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I can't stand Rush, I can listen to his show on Monday, tune back in on Thursday and he will still be harping about the same thing. He gets old to me. Savage, I can take him or leave him. More often than not, leave him. He can be a pompous ass himself, reminds me of Boortz in a way. He can be a dickhead to callers. I once heard him be a total dick to a guy who was a conservationist, but b/c he didn't agree with Savage about something, he was made fun of and talked to like a dog and called a enviro whack job and they guy was anything but that. Boortz, like I said, one minute I love the guy, the next I want to drive to ATL and shoot in the face with a Bazooka. Hannity, meh, to much Neo-Con for me. I haven't heard one in a while that I liked enough to listen in daily.
I guffawed at that remark, AUT1! Cheered me up this evening.
I've been listening to Rush since the beginning way back when he was on WSJS in Winston Salem, NC in 1988; I think that station was among his first group of stations when he first went national. At this point he's like an old friend. And he is what he is.
But for more serious political talk radio I listen to Dennis Praeger and Hugh Hewitt on Salem Radio Network (920 AM in teh ATL); I've met them both, they're very thought provoking, conservative (but not insane NOR Libertarian), and a little more elevated language and discourse.
I like Hannity but I rarely listen to his show, I expect that he's a nice guy but I have to agree with you that he's ver-ry Neo-Con.
I don't care for his delivery either. He's very arrogant.
At least Rush is entertaining. And usually correct.
I like Savage as well. And Mark Levine.
I do catch Savage and Levine from time to time and I find them both entertaining but the time that their shows are on is not convenient.
I tell you both my favorite talk show host must be "The General" aka "Cigar Dave" on Saturday afternoons; my Saturday is simply incomplete if I've missed his show.
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I do catch Savage and Levine from time to time and I find them both entertaining but the time that their shows are on is not convenient.
What about Wilkow? I usually catch his show on Fridays, and find myself nodding along with him for the 3 hours he's on.
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What about Wilkow? I usually catch his show on Fridays, and find myself nodding along with him for the 3 hours he's on.
I've heard Wilkow before and liked his show when I did; there's so many options to listen to sometimes I forget about the good ones. I'll have to refresh my memory as to what station he's on in Atlanta.
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I've heard Wilkow before and liked his show when I did; there's so many options to listen to sometimes I forget about the good ones. I'll have to refresh my memory as to what station he's on in Atlanta.
I think he's just on Sirius/XM Patriot.
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I think he's just on Sirius/XM Patriot.
That's probably where I've heard him before, XM. Speaking of satellite radio I've got to mention The Mike Church Show on Sirius/XM; that is one of the wittiest and entertaining political shows I've heard on paid radio. He is a raging "republican" with a little "r" as he constantly points out but he leans very libertarian on many issues. I think he's based in NOLA. Great show.
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I tell you both my favorite talk show host must be "The General" aka "Cigar Dave" on Saturday afternoons; my Saturday is simply incomplete if I've missed his show.
I figured you and Garman to be long-ashes lieutenants
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I figured you and Garman to be long-ashes lieutenants
Yep. Been a Cigar Lieutenant since 1996 when I first heard The General's original show called "Smoke This!". He did a live broadcast from Tobacco World on Sandy Plains Rd. in Marietta last November; you ought to try and make it, Dn, next time assuming he comes back for a visit. Lots of cigars, good food, and adult beverages were consumed that day...and night.