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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Xanusus on November 26, 2011, 06:31:58 PM
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Roof and Lolley need to go for sure. We made McCarron look like a Heisman contender. We have absolutely no pass defense. Everyone makes our pass D look like swiss cheese. Offensively we need to quit the dumb play calling. Feed the ball to Dyer even if it's only going for a yard or two. Dyer touches the ball, what?, 5 times in this entire game? Pathetic.
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Malzahn needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Dyer only touched the ball 13 times today and a great percentage of those 13 touches came late in the game after it was already decided. What is wrong with these coaches? When you have a 1000 yard rusher you DO NOT keep the ball out of his hands the entire game. We did this same crap vs. Georgia. Are these guys idiots? They must be.
Once again the defense stank it up in pass coverage. McCarron, McCarron! You know the guy everyone laughed at after the LSU loss threw three TD's on us and completed 80% of his passes. Just pathetic.
1)Get rid of Roof and Lolley. They've had 3 years now to put a decent product on the field and have failed at it all three years including last year. Teams pass all over us like their QB is a Heisman hopeful. TRUE FRESHMEN look like Heisman hopefuls against us!
2)If Malzahn leaves I won't be the least bit sad. Most will give him a mulligan. I won't. Last year was Cam. But this year has had some of the DUMBEST play calling on offense that I can recall. Most of it has been a result of not fudgeing running the ball with Dyer. You have to be an idiot not to feed him the ball!
Hey Chiz, call Bumpas he'll show you how to run a good defense with freshmen and sophomores.
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I sure as hell hope that we don't play Northwestern again in our bowl game. Those fuckers will throw for over 500 on us.
:facepalm:
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After watching the game in person today I was impressed with the way our defense kept us in the game with absolutly no offense....Gus needs to go.
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Our offensive play calling has to get better. When you have a 1000 yard rusher you don't move away from that. You feed him the ball. In our blowout losses or bad wins(Utah St.) this year we left Dyer on the bench for large stretches of time. When he's averaging 4+ yards per carry you don't just hand him the ball 13 times during a game(that was his average amount of carries in most of our losses or embarrassing wins) . That just defies good common football logic. Look back at the Utah St., Clemson, Georgia, LSU and Alabama games. What's the common theme?,
a) we lost badly or almost got embarrassed and
b) Dyer was not given the ball enough in any of those games.
I thought after the Utah St. and Clemson games we would have realized what we needed to do. Guess not! Against Utah St. Dyer only carried the ball 14 times. In the Clemson game he was averaging 10 yards a carry and not once had been stopped and yet on at least two third and short plays we pass with him on the bench? :facepalm:
He only touched the ball 14 times in that Clemson game also. Seeing a trend?
LSU he had a paltry 12 touches and it was a blowout loss. Seeing that trend? Georgia he had 13 touches and it was a blowout loss. Alabama he had 13 touches and it was a blowout loss.
Instead of correcting this error at the start of the year when we should have, we repeated the same error over and over in our losses afterwards. Dyer low carries=loss.
Now for comparison's sake, look at our lone good win from this year over a ranked opponent. That would be South Carolina in case you forgot. What do you notice? In that game Dyer carried the ball 41 times and we won on the road against a ranked team for the ONLY time this past year.
Terrible play calling. Poor Dyer. I feel bad for him. I'm sure Steve Spurrier would know what to do with him.
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After watching the game in person today I was impressed with the way our defense kept us in the game with absolutly no offense....Gus needs to go.
I'll give it to the defense. They fought hard. I truly believe our players gave their best effort over there. Unfortunately their best effort was so lousy due to poor coaching that it didn't matter. We've had a terrible pass defense now for 3 years. Nothing has changed. We made McCarron look like wonder boy. 3 Td passes, 80% completion pct. is not good pass defense. Eventually just like Georgia we played good run defense but ultimately getting picked apart in the passing game wore us down and allowed the flood gates to open with runs.
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After watching the game in person today I was impressed with the way our defense kept us in the game with absolutly no offense....Gus needs to go.
Dumb
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Dumb
How a sane person can look at last night and say anything otherwise is beyond me.
Preconceptions and unwillingness to change the groupthink opinion that was decided in week 1 is the only thing I can come up with.
Defense and special teams both did a better job offensively than the offense. At the start of the 4th quarter I looked up at the stats: 31 offensive yards. If you subtracted the penalty yards, we probably netted zero or less.
It was a game at the start of the 4th quarter in spite of a nonexistent offense.
Everyone has decided Gus is a guru and Roof is a fuckup and refuse to objectively look at what is clear as day in front of them. Cam's a cheater, Paterno is a saint, etc etc...
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How a sane person can look at last night and say anything otherwise is beyond me.
Preconceptions and unwillingness to change the groupthink opinion that was decided in week 1 is the only thing I can come up with.
Defense and special teams both did a better job offensively than the offense. At the start of the 4th quarter I looked up at the stats: 31 offensive yards. If you subtracted the penalty yards, we probably netted zero or less.
It was a game at the start of the 4th quarter in spite of a nonexistent offense.
Everyone has decided Gus is a guru and Roof is a fuckup and refuse to objectively look at what is clear as day in front of them. Cam's a cheater, Paterno is a saint, etc etc...
I must agree.
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How a sane person can look at last night and say anything otherwise is beyond me.
Preconceptions and unwillingness to change the groupthink opinion that was decided in week 1 is the only thing I can come up with.
Defense and special teams both did a better job offensively than the offense. At the start of the 4th quarter I looked up at the stats: 31 offensive yards. If you subtracted the penalty yards, we probably netted zero or less.
It was a game at the start of the 4th quarter in spite of a nonexistent offense.
Everyone has decided Gus is a guru and Roof is a fuckup and refuse to objectively look at what is clear as day in front of them. Cam's a cheater, Paterno is a saint, etc etc...
This all of it ^^^^^^ but I'm am so dumb for real.
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How a sane person can look at last night and say anything otherwise is beyond me.
Preconceptions and unwillingness to change the groupthink opinion that was decided in week 1 is the only thing I can come up with.
Defense and special teams both did a better job offensively than the offense. At the start of the 4th quarter I looked up at the stats: 31 offensive yards. If you subtracted the penalty yards, we probably netted zero or less.
It was a game at the start of the 4th quarter in spite of a nonexistent offense.
Everyone has decided Gus is a guru and Roof is a fuckup and refuse to objectively look at what is clear as day in front of them. Cam's a cheater, Paterno is a saint, etc etc...
I've come around. Last night's playcalling was the proverbial last straw for me.
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I've come around. Last night's playcalling was the proverbial last straw for me.
Youre an idiot. At least that's what yoda and jr are saying about all of us who critique the offense.
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Youre an idiot. At least that's what yoda and jr are saying about all of us who critique the offense.
Just because Georgia Southern can run for over 300 against bama that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to gain 100 in total offense. dumb.
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Just because Georgia Southern can run for over 300 against bama that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to gain 100 in total offense. dumb.
:bugs:
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Ok, explain to me how a guy who has a five-year history of being one of the most prolific offensive coordinators in history suddenly became the village idiot?
I do think this is the first time he hasn't had a QB who was at least serviceable at his disposal. Trotsley is an abomination. Mosler has very little athletic ability and isn't capable of doing even the most basic things correctly. Gus cannot run anything resembling his offense because we don't have a single signal caller with even DII skill.
Downfield throw? Holy shit. Did you see that fucking disgrace last night? Fucktard lobs one from his own 10 to a wide open Lutz. Misses him by eight yards. Bama was backing off and playing to keep people in front by then. Next throw he's got Blake open in a hole in the zone. I saw him free and got excited. Then the fuckup airs it out 20 yards past to the Bama centerfielder. Six points the other way.
If I was Trotter I'd at least fake an injury so people wouldn't know I was relegated to the bench behind THAT bleeding placenta.
I really don't think Gus knew how to fix it. He couldn't run what he knows because there just isn't a quarterback on that sideline. I don't understand the reluctance to burn clock and pound the ball with Dyer, Mason, McCalebb and Bray.
I'm confused. And the helmets weren't even lined up right.
But hey, I read the Creed.
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Ok, explain to me how a guy who has a five-year history of being one of the most prolific offensive coordinators in history suddenly became the village idiot?
Excellent question. Which leads us to...
I don't understand the reluctance to burn clock and pound the ball with Dyer, Mason, McCalebb and Bray.
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Ok, explain to me how a guy who has a five-year history of being one of the most prolific offensive coordinators in history suddenly became the village idiot?
I do think this is the first time he hasn't had a QB who was at least serviceable at his disposal. Trotsley is an abomination. Mosler has very little athletic ability and isn't capable of doing even the most basic things correctly. Gus cannot run anything resembling his offense because we don't have a single signal caller with even DII skill.
Downfield throw? Holy shit. Did you see that fucking disgrace last night? Fucktard lobs one from his own 10 to a wide open Lutz. Misses him by eight yards. Bama was backing off and playing to keep people in front by then. Next throw he's got Blake open in a hole in the zone. I saw him free and got excited. Then the fuckup airs it out 20 yards past to the Bama centerfielder. Six points the other way.
If I was Trotter I'd at least fake an injury so people wouldn't know I was relegated to the bench behind THAT bleeding placenta.
I really don't think Gus knew how to fix it. He couldn't run what he knows because there just isn't a quarterback on that sideline. I don't understand the reluctance to burn clock and pound the ball with Dyer, Mason, McCalebb and Bray.
I'm confused. And the helmets weren't even lined up right.
But hey, I read the Creed.
ga southern
I don't care how bad those 2 qbs are. Ga southern did something we couldn't. With div 2 level players.
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Youre an idiot. At least that's what yoda and jr are saying about all of us who critique the offense.
Serious question...do you think there's any play calling strategy that would have been effective yesterday? ANY? If "Yes" then tell me what leads you to believe that?
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Ok, explain to me how a guy who has a five-year history of being one of the most prolific offensive coordinators in history suddenly became the village idiot?
I do think this is the first time he hasn't had a QB who was at least serviceable at his disposal. Trotsley is an abomination. Mosler has very little athletic ability and isn't capable of doing even the most basic things correctly. Gus cannot run anything resembling his offense because we don't have a single signal caller with even DII skill.
Downfield throw? Holy shit. Did you see that fucking disgrace last night? Fucktard lobs one from his own 10 to a wide open Lutz. Misses him by eight yards. Bama was backing off and playing to keep people in front by then. Next throw he's got Blake open in a hole in the zone. I saw him free and got excited. Then the fuckup airs it out 20 yards past to the Bama centerfielder. Six points the other way.
If I was Trotter I'd at least fake an injury so people wouldn't know I was relegated to the bench behind THAT bleeding placenta.
I really don't think Gus knew how to fix it. He couldn't run what he knows because there just isn't a quarterback on that sideline.
I'm confused. And the helmets weren't even lined up right.
But hey, I read the Creed.
K? He fucking gets it.
I don't understand the reluctance to burn clock and pound the ball with Dyer, Mason, McCalebb and Bray.
I can hear it now: "All he did was pound the ball up the middle of the best rushing defense in the land...no imagination, the play calling sux, Gus has lost it, has to go".
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Ok, explain to me how a guy who has a five-year history of being one of the most prolific offensive coordinators in history suddenly became the village idiot?
I do think this is the first time he hasn't had a QB who was at least serviceable at his disposal. Trotsley is an abomination. Mosler has very little athletic ability and isn't capable of doing even the most basic things correctly. Gus cannot run anything resembling his offense because we don't have a single signal caller with even DII skill.
Downfield throw? Holy shit. Did you see that fucking disgrace last night? Fucktard lobs one from his own 10 to a wide open Lutz. Misses him by eight yards. Bama was backing off and playing to keep people in front by then. Next throw he's got Blake open in a hole in the zone. I saw him free and got excited. Then the fuckup airs it out 20 yards past to the Bama centerfielder. Six points the other way.
If I was Trotter I'd at least fake an injury so people wouldn't know I was relegated to the bench behind THAT bleeding placenta.
I really don't think Gus knew how to fix it. He couldn't run what he knows because there just isn't a quarterback on that sideline. I don't understand the reluctance to burn clock and pound the ball with Dyer, Mason, McCalebb and Bray.
I'm confused. And the helmets weren't even lined up right.
But hey, I read the Creed.
It's Roof's fault.
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What I'm seeing elsewhere is a rush to blame Tuberville.
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What I'm seeing elsewhere is a rush to blame Tuberville.
:facepalm:
I blame his ass for 7 fucking seniors and Tony Franklin.
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Serious question...do you think there's any play calling strategy that would have been effective yesterday? ANY? If "Yes" then tell me what leads you to believe that?
There were plays that were successful yesterday. Dyer was getting good yardage inside. Why did we not run more of those plays? Why did we not run them until Bama stopped them?
Why did we waste a great 4th down conversion with awful playcalling? Why did we line Dyer up in the Wildcat when everyone in the stadium knew that there was no chance he'd throw the ball?
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There were plays that were successful yesterday. Dyer was getting good yardage inside. Why did we not run more of those plays? Why did we not run them until Bama stopped them?
Why did we waste a great 4th down conversion with awful playcalling? Why did we line Dyer up in the Wildcat when everyone in the stadium knew that there was no chance he'd throw the ball?
Roof has to go.
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Why did we waste a great 4th down conversion with awful playcalling? Why did we line Dyer up in the Wildcat when everyone in the stadium knew that there was no chance he'd throw the ball?
This part? I agree.
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There were plays that were successful yesterday. Dyer was getting good yardage inside. Why did we not run more of those plays? Why did we not run them until Bama stopped them?
Why did we waste a great 4th down conversion with awful playcalling? Why did we line Dyer up in the Wildcat when everyone in the stadium knew that there was no chance he'd throw the ball?
Or Frazier for that matter.
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Or Frazier for that matter.
Agreed. When I saw that Frazier was throwing deep I thought he might be finishing the game with no further substitution. I also liked that he was allowed a more robust play package...then Moseley came back out on the field.
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Everyone needs to calm down and remember bama only beats us when we're down.
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Serious question...do you think there's any play calling strategy that would have been effective yesterday? ANY? If "Yes" then tell me what leads you to believe that?
Yes I do a gameplan. How about the option?
JR to blindly support someone based on last nights performance is ridonkulous. Even when we had something going we try to get cute and fuck it up. We scored 0 points on offense, and had 40 yards in the 3rd quarter, that's not acceptable. Bamas defense is not that fucking good, no doubt they are a great defense but to hold us to that at home. Sorry the team I saw play last night had no direction on the offensive side of the ball.
It is blatantly obvious to the rest of us that there seemed to be no offensive reasoning last night. You don't get to give Gus all the credit for last year and not take any of the blame for this year.
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Serious question...do you think there's any play calling strategy that would have been effective yesterday? ANY? If "Yes" then tell me what leads you to believe that?
Yes. Hand the ball off to Dyer 25 times at least.
1)It slows the game down for the defense and allows them time to rest.
2)Even if Dyer is getting stuffed at the line every now and then eventually their D gets tired of trying to stop it. Dyer will still get 3+ yards per attempt. He averaged 4 yards a carry last night and we sat him on the bench all night AGAIN.
3)South Carolina stuffed Dyer quite a bit at the line during our victory there, but we never stopped pounding them with him. Result:win.
Name me one loss this year where Dyer was given the ball 25 times.
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By the way, Dyers only 3 carries in the first half resulted in 15 yards. 5 ypc not exactly beating your head against a wall IMO. Yet he touched the ball at the 12:50 mark the 5:22 mark and then not again until 1:13 left in the 2nd. Explain that to me?
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By the way, Dyers only 3 carries in the first half resulted in 15 yards. 5 ypc not exactly beating your head against a wall IMO. Yet he touched the ball at the 12:50 mark the 5:22 mark and then not again until 1:13 left in the 2nd. Explain that to me?
I was surprised there weren't more runs by McCalebb to the outside. That little fucker is fast. Don't delay the handoff, don't fuck around with it. Just give him the ball. No double fakes, no wraparounds. Same with Dyer. I thought he and Dyer would have given a nice 1-2 punch with the ground game. Kept waiting on it. But there just seemed to be no point of attack to the offensive plan. Obviously the passing game wasn't working. So how is it OK to say "Well do you think Dyer was going to make headway against THAT defense?" Well, fuck, I don't know, because they never really tested that. But from what I saw from Ga Southern, there might have been some success on the perimiter. Maybe. I mean, we just won't know. I guess when the passing game wasn't working, you guys should have just went ahead and forfeited the game then and there. I mean, why even try to run it?
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By the way, Dyers only 3 carries in the first half resulted in 15 yards. 5 ypc not exactly beating your head against a wall IMO. Yet he touched the ball at the 12:50 mark the 5:22 mark and then not again until 1:13 left in the 2nd. Explain that to me?
Hey if you caught that Kristi Malzahn video I posted, she said that Dyer's got him a bit of an attitude she has to keep in check.
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If coaches(Malzahn) are punishing Dyer for some reason they need to go. I have yet to see anything from Dyer that suggests to me that he isn't a team player or that he is breaking rules and getting into trouble. If he is then he needs to sit period and not even be eligible for the game. It is half assed discipline regardless to say "ok, you've been bad so because of that you don't get the ball as much". Either way the coaches are flip flopping on discipline.
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If coaches(Malzahn) are punishing Dyer for some reason they need to go. I have yet to see anything from Dyer that suggests to me that he isn't a team player or that he is breaking rules and getting into trouble. If he is then he needs to sit period and not even be eligible for the game. It is half assed discipline regardless to say "ok, you've been bad so because of that you don't get the ball as much". Either way the coaches are flip flopping on discipline.
I was kidding.
But there was a rumor a while back that the coaches thought Dyer had an attitude issue. I think it was around the Clemson game.
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The more I think about this the more ticked I get with the coaches for not playing him. It's not just one game. It's been like this all season with the exception of South Carolina. If he's in trouble he needs to sit period. Not this half assed shitake. The only thing I can come away with is that Malzahn "are" dumb.
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The more I think about this the more ticked I get with the coaches for not playing him. It's not just one game. It's been like this all season with the exception of South Carolina. If he's in trouble he needs to sit period. Not this half assed shitake. The only thing I can come away with is that Malzahn "are" dumb.
Quote from Malzahn after Clemson loss:
"Dyer's a great back. We've got to find ways to get him the ball more."
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Here's a way. Fucking hand it to him.
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Quote from Malzahn after Clemson loss:
"Dyer's a great back. We've got to find ways to get him the ball more."
:facepalm:
Here's a way. Fucking hand it to him.
Yep. It's simple.
I also take issue with none of these freaking qbs being developed by the coaches.
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I'm a bit disappointed in Frazier. I expected a lot more out of him. He'd make a great option QB but that's about it. He's looking like a bust to me. Maybe Pike coming in early will be the answer next year.
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Serious question...do you think there's any play calling strategy that would have been effective yesterday? ANY? If "Yes" then tell me what leads you to believe that?
Actually it is the same thing I have said all year. Gus' refusal to use a short passing game (other than the shitty screen) is what is truly puzzling. IS there any AU fan alive that thinks Lutz could not do the same things that Smelly did using short crossing routes?
But all season, Gus cannot seem to implement anything remotely similar to a short passing game. Hell, we don't even throw the 10 yd out any longer. Play action, throw down field...or get sacked. And then bring in Kodi to tip-toe around.
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Although Gus might leave leave for another job it could be that Roof keeps his job partly because of the dreadful job that Malzahn has done.
I realized the need for a made to order play making QB to eliminate most of the poor play calling as far back as the Clemson game. Zeke Pike could give us a glimpse of what we might expect sometime around the second or third Spring practice. He's a very confident young man.
I think Dyer needs at least 25 touches per game and OMac around 10.
Is there any reason not to recruit a true fullback/h-back to relieve Lutz of the constant contact? I know he's our best blocker but I sure would like to see him used more as a receiver. He could still block in the secondary should we complete a pass to another receiver and also spring Dyer and OMac in the secondary.