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Title: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 02:37:34 PM
I was on my way back home on my 1hr drive from Columbus GA this morning when I reminded myself of a curiosity and a possible Tiger X thread. I heard a song on the radio from RUSH and was curious to what people thought the best drummers were/are. I'm not really a huge RUSH fan but Neil Peart can play the shit outta the drums.

My top 4 list but not limited to and no real particular order:

1) Neil Peart - RUSH
2) Lars Ulrich - Metallica
3) Danny Carey - Tool
4) Phil Collins
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 04, 2011, 02:40:29 PM
Ringo Starr
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 04, 2011, 02:43:25 PM
What's the criteria? 

Because I'm going with Flo Mounier or Zach Hill. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 02:51:54 PM
What's the criteria? 

Because I'm going with Flo Mounier or Zach Hill.

No real criteria, just your personal opinion. It don't even have to be a band that you like all that much just a drummer that leaves an good impression. There are many good drummers out there but there are some that are just damn good.

Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 02:52:16 PM
Ringo Starr

You're ghey.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 04, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
Your list is shit without Tommy Lee on it
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 04, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
No real criteria, just your personal opinion. It don't even have to be a band that you like all that much just a drummer that leaves an good impression. There are many good drummers out there but there are some that are just damn good.

I'll throw Carter Beauford in the mix as well.  I haven't been a fan of Dave Matthews for a while, but Beauford absolutely made that band work.  Brilliant drum tracks for Dave's folk songs.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 03:01:39 PM
Your list is shit without Tommy Lee on it

Damn, just damn. I was thinking maybe Rick Allen maybe.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
I'll throw Carter Beauford in the mix as well.  I haven't been a fan of Dave Matthews for a while, but Beauford absolutely made that band work.  Brilliant drum tracks for Dave's folk songs.

I agree, he was the only reason that I would think about maybe listening to Matthews on the radio, but still a good chance I would prefer a whiny ass country song instead.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 04, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
I would put Patrick Carney up there.  All those you listed.   John Bonham, Keith Moon, Jeff Beck, Phil Collins, Chad Smith, Travis Barker, Dave Grohl, Mike Portnoy, Nicko McBrian, Glenn Kotche, Meg White, Vinnea Paul, Ringo Starr, Butch Trucks (I'm partial), ahh shit, dude from the Stones.....Watts?  The guy from Korn/Slipknot, Dave Silveria, Tommy Aldridge...........too many to name.  It's like saying who is the top guitarist, it's really had to compare.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 03:17:59 PM
I would put Patrick Carney up there.  All those you listed.   John Bonham, Keith Moon, Jeff Beck, Phil Collins, Chad Smith, Travis Barker, Dave Grohl, Mike Portnoy, Nicko McBrian, Glenn Kotche, Meg White, Vinnea Paul, Ringo Starr, Butch Trucks (I'm partial), ahh shit, dude from the Stones.....Watts?  The guy from Korn/Slipknot, Dave Silveria, Tommy Aldridge...........too many to name.  It's like saying who is the top guitarist, it's really had to compare.

Yeah, I think THS was hinting at this a little. Different drummers work for different genres. I forgot all about Tommy Aldridge. The dude is badass too.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Saniflush on November 04, 2011, 03:21:33 PM
Nobody in the last 30 years could carry Mitch Mitchell's jock strap.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUJarhead on November 04, 2011, 03:22:34 PM
Animal.

And Keith Moon.

Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Saniflush on November 04, 2011, 03:25:08 PM
Animal.

You know he had to be put down?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5718287952076253583
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: chinook on November 04, 2011, 03:27:05 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/christmasspecials/images/9/9d/Drummerboy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 04, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/christmasspecials/images/9/9d/Drummerboy1.jpg)

Little Nookie Boy
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: chinook on November 04, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
let's not forget this cat...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/Chizad-Lappy/catman.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Saniflush on November 04, 2011, 03:34:12 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/christmasspecials/images/9/9d/Drummerboy1.jpg)

Let's not start a holy war Harris.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 04, 2011, 03:47:48 PM
Nobody in the last 30 years could carry Mitch Mitchell's jock strap.

 :facepalm:  @ myself for not listing him.....
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Kaos on November 04, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
I'll throw Carter Beauford in the mix as well.  I haven't been a fan of Dave Matthews for a while, but Beauford absolutely made that band work.  Brilliant drum tracks for Dave's folk songs.

^^ HOMO ^^

Drummers:

Peter Criss
Eric Carr
Eric Singer
Metallica Lars
Tommy Lee
Don Henley
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 04, 2011, 04:20:18 PM
Carl Tesh

Best drummer I've ever been around.  He played with us in our contemporary worship band.  Toured years ago with James Brown.  Played with a lot old country greats as well like Ronnie Milsap.  Obviously, no one's ever heard of him but to actually play with a former professional musician was a pretty awesome thing.   
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Kaos on November 04, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
Carl Tesh

Best drummer I've ever been around.  He played with us in our contemporary worship band.  Toured years ago with James Brown.  Played with a lot old country greats as well like Ronnie Milsap.  Obviously, no one's ever heard of him but to actually play with a former professional musician was a pretty awesome thing.

Don't forget his brother John. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 04, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
Don't forget his brother John.

That's intelligence for your life
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 04, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/Chizad-Lappy/catman.jpg)

^^ HOMO ^^



Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 05:11:33 PM
Another modern day great drummer would be Joey Jordison.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 04, 2011, 05:12:55 PM
Another modern day great drummer would be Joey Jordison.

Yeah, that is that guys name from Slipknot/Korn. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 04, 2011, 05:29:44 PM
Yeah, that is that guys name from Slipknot/Korn.

Damn, I missed you saying that. My bad.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: GarMan on November 04, 2011, 05:32:50 PM
This thread reminds me...

How do you get a drummer off your front porch?

Pay for the pizza...
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 04, 2011, 05:38:41 PM
Damn, I missed you saying that. My bad.

I mentioned him by band, I couldn't think of his name. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: boartitz on November 04, 2011, 07:44:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCupJpymgfE&feature=related
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: BZ770 on November 04, 2011, 07:49:34 PM
Sonny Ortiz Percussionist Widespread Panic
Nick Mason Pink Floyd
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: boartitz on November 04, 2011, 07:50:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvj9iz70Idg&feature=related
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: boartitz on November 04, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5B7yqDYbA
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: boartitz on November 04, 2011, 08:08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnYnSnVmXvM&feature=related
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: DnATL on November 05, 2011, 06:49:20 AM
Nobody in the last 30 years could carry Mitch Mitchell's jock strap.
"Mitch Mitchell got a girl named Gloria - she come around just about midnight, her breath smell like wet pussy, and she did it like homemade sin"
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: GH2001 on November 06, 2011, 01:17:15 PM
John Bonham....

Neal Pearlt.....


Then everyone else.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: jmar on November 06, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
John Bonham....

Neal Pearlt.....


Then everyone else.
Wait a minute sport....you mean everyone but this guy.
Really, you have to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E

 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUChizad on November 06, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
Meg White, Ringo Starr
These are without question, the wrong answer. Under any criteria you can come up with.

And I love the White Stripes and the Beatles.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: GH2001 on November 07, 2011, 09:19:16 AM
These are without question, the wrong answer. Under any criteria you can come up with.

And I love the White Stripes and the Beatles.

Ringo isnt even the 'Best' drummer to ever grace the Beatles.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 07, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
 :facepalm:

Okay, I'm pretty sure the Ringo Starr post was a bit sarcastic.  I wee bit of humor. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUChizad on November 07, 2011, 10:20:44 AM
:facepalm:

Okay, I'm pretty sure the Ringo Starr post was a bit sarcastic.  I wee bit of humor.
I figured yours was sarcasm. I didn't give AUTiger1 the same benefit of the doubt considering he (and Meg White) were listed in a long list of legitimately good drummers.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 07, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
:facepalm:

Okay, I'm pretty sure the Ringo Starr post was a bit sarcastic.  I wee bit of humor.

You're still ghey.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 07, 2011, 11:31:13 AM
You're still ghey.

No, you aahh
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUJarhead on November 07, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
Let me add Fred LeBlanc from Cowboy Mouth to the list also.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 07, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
These are without question, the wrong answer. Under any criteria you can come up with.

And I love the White Stripes and the Beatles.

Disagree, Ringo wasn't the greatest, but he was underrated imo.  He did his job to perfection every time.  He kept the tempo and beat.  Always stayed in a perfect rhythm and is said to be the most consistent guy out there.  Despite 1000's of hours of performance and studio time, there are only a handful of times that he was off.   He does what is needed to make the music good.  That to me makes him a great drummer

Meg White........she is in there b/c I couldn't think of any other female drummers and tried to put one in there.  Plus she has great tits.  That counts for something doesn't it?

Seriously, I don't think she has the technical proficiency that others listed ITT have, but that doesn't mean she is a bad drummer.   Go back and listen to some of her work with the Raconteurs.   Pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 07, 2011, 01:55:29 PM
Scratch that, I didn't realize that Meg White was not the drummer for the Raconteurs.  Apparently she made a guest appearance once on a video and I assumed that she was the drummer.   Since I only have her White Stripes work to go on.  I can only give her credit for having a great rack and keeping a simple sound for them.  Nothing special.  Other than her great tits.   Please remove.  Now Ringo, I still think Ringo is better than most give him credit for. 
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUJarhead on November 07, 2011, 01:57:15 PM
In terms of changing how "cool" drummers were, Ringo is tops.  However, and I mean this as no disrespect to him, he, at least in my opinion, isn't as good as someone like Neal Peart or Keith Moon or John Bonham.

But without Ringo, there probably isn't a Neal Peart, or Keith Moon, or John Bonham.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 07, 2011, 02:12:15 PM
In terms of changing how "cool" drummers were, Ringo is tops.  However, and I mean this as no disrespect to him, he, at least in my opinion, isn't as good as someone like Neal Peart or Keith Moon or John Bonham.

But without Ringo, there probably isn't a Neal Peart, or Keith Moon, or John Bonham.

I kind of feel about Ringo how Koas does about Ace.  Ace is not the best by any means imo, but he was good at what he did and helped make the music what it was.  Perfect fit for his style.  I have seen a lot of better string benders than Ace, but I don't know if they could pull of what he did.  Simplistic. Ringo is the same way to me.  Sure there many that are better, but I don't know if they could have done what he did in that situation.

Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: GH2001 on November 07, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
I kind of feel about Ringo how Koas does about Ace.  Ace is not the best by any means imo, but he was good at what he did and helped make the music what it was.  Perfect fit for his style.  I have seen a lot of better string benders than Ace, but I don't know if they could pull of what he did.  Simplistic. Ringo is the same way to me.  Sure there many that are better, but I don't know if they could have done what he did in that situation.

Re-read the title of the thread. Purely....the BEST.

Not 'pound for pound', not 'did the most with what he had' , 'underrated', or 'good at what he did'.......

Objectively, the best all around drummer has to be John Bonham - skill/talent, diversity, speed, dynamic, star power. Guy had it all. I cant list any other drummer that has it all. Keith Moon and Neal Pearlt are close but Pearlt is a little more niche and Moon was a little less refined than Bonzo.

With that said, I think Ringo is one cool motherfucker.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUJarhead on November 07, 2011, 02:37:22 PM
Objectively, the best all around drummer has to be John Bonham - skill/talent, diversity, speed, dynamic, star power. Guy had it all. I cant list any other drummer that has it all. Keith Moon and Neal Pearlt are close but Pearlt is a little more niche and Moon was a little less refined than Bonzo.

I'd also add that in addition to being a bad ass mother fucker on drums, Peart writes most of the Rush songs.

Personal preference, but I'd take him over Bonham.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: wesfau2 on November 07, 2011, 02:45:42 PM
Peart writes most of the Rush songs.


Not a point in his favor in my book.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 07, 2011, 02:48:07 PM
I'd also add that in addition to being a bad ass mother fucker on drums, Peart writes most of the Rush songs.

Personal preference, but I'd take him over Bonham.

I think I'd have to agree here. Nothing against Bonham by any means but Peart, to me, is the type that would make you buy the bands album just to hear him play the shit out of the drums.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: Saniflush on November 07, 2011, 02:50:05 PM
I think I'd have to agree here. Nothing against Bonham by any means but Peart, to me, is the type that would make you buy the bands album just to hear him play the shit out of the drums.

Yes but Bonham was the one who would give you a set of their albums to get stoned to.

Advantage Bonham.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: wesfau2 on November 07, 2011, 03:06:08 PM
Yes but Bonham was the one who would give you a set of their albums to get stoned to.

Advantage Bonham.

Werd.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUChizad on November 07, 2011, 03:16:23 PM
Disagree, Ringo wasn't the greatest, but he was underrated imo.  He did his job to perfection every time.  He kept the tempo and beat.  Always stayed in a perfect rhythm and is said to be the most consistent guy out there.  Despite 1000's of hours of performance and studio time, there are only a handful of times that he was off.   He does what is needed to make the music good.  That to me makes him a great drummer
Agree to disagree. If the only criteria is to do nothing special, but keep a steady simple rhythm that gels well with what the rest of the band is doing, give me AC/DC's Phil Rudd.

Quote
Meg White........she is in there b/c I couldn't think of any other female drummers and tried to put one in there.  Plus she has great tits.  That counts for something doesn't it?

Seriously, I don't think she has the technical proficiency that others listed ITT have, but that doesn't mean she is a bad drummer.   Go back and listen to some of her work with the Raconteurs.   Pretty damn good.
I guess I didn't think that all the way through when I said "based on any criteria". Probably the best tits of all rock drummers (best tits in rock in general go to Nashville Pussy's Ruyter Suys).

But Meg is all crash, snare, and kick. And basically the same stale "beat" in every song. Anyone that considers themselves a drummer in any capacity could do better. The White Stripes consist of Jack being amazing in spite of Meg.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: djsimp on November 07, 2011, 03:18:12 PM
Yes but Bonham was the one who would give you a set of their albums to get stoned to.

Advantage Bonham.

Points! Nothing like free drums and free wee.....wait, does the weed come with the drums?
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 07, 2011, 03:28:12 PM
Re-read the title of the thread. Purely....the BEST.

Not 'pound for pound', not 'did the most with what he had' , 'underrated', or 'good at what he did'.......

Objectively, the best all around drummer has to be John Bonham - skill/talent, diversity, speed, dynamic, star power. Guy had it all. I cant list any other drummer that has it all. Keith Moon and Neal Pearlt are close but Pearlt is a little more niche and Moon was a little less refined than Bonzo.

With that said, I think Ringo is one cool motherfucker.

Ok then.

John Bonham

/thread


Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: GH2001 on November 07, 2011, 04:08:07 PM
Ok then.

John Bonham

/thread

Sorry man, tl;dr

Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on November 08, 2011, 09:40:46 AM
Yes but Bonham was the one who would give you a set of their albums to get stoned to.

Advantage Bonham.

Did you hear about Bonham's 2 hour drum solo?  You couldn't handle that on strong acid, man.

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/1600000/Slater-dazed-and-confused-1626436-200-200.jpg)

And I don't know if he's on here or not, but Topper Headon from the Clash is right up there with anyone.  Just listen to their version of "I Fought the Law".  Awesomeness.
Title: Re: Best drummer?
Post by: AUJarhead on November 08, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
You just gotta keep on livin', man. L-I-V-I-N.