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Title: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on March 11, 2011, 08:41:45 AM
DAAAYYYYUUUMMMMMMMM.......


Good morning!   :jaw:
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 11, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
I know.

One of my best friends is at Stanford right now.  I woke him up at 5:00am his time to let him know he might want to start climbing a tree that has a thick trunk. 

Crazy shit, this planet. 
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 11, 2011, 09:20:35 AM
I have a cousin that is living in Kapaau, HI.  Luckily that is the biggest island and farthest East, but he is on the West coast of that island.  Nobody in the family has been able to get in touch with him as of yet today.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: chinook on March 11, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
tsunami warning sirens for the coast of oreygun.

ding-a-ling ding-a-ling (http://www.kptv.com/local-video/index.html?grabnetworks_video_id=4580133)
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on March 11, 2011, 10:50:59 AM
I have a cousin that is living in Kapaau, HI.  Luckily that is the biggest island and farthest East, but he is on the West coast of that island.  Nobody in the family has been able to get in touch with him as of yet today.

My sister and her husband live on the North side of the same island.  She posted from her phone that everyone had been evacuated inland.

Hawaii can move everyone inland in a few hours notice.  New Orleans couldn't do the same in a few days notice.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 11, 2011, 11:25:43 AM
New Orleans couldn't do the same in a few days notice.

It's because we're idiots.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Token on March 11, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
I like where this thread is heading.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Saniflush on March 11, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
I like where this thread is heading.

There is potential here.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on March 11, 2011, 01:06:40 PM

Crazy shit, this planet.

Global warming's a bitch.  I'm sure it played a role somehow
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 11, 2011, 01:12:52 PM
Global warming's a bitch.  I'm sure it played a role somehow

Was W anywhere near Japan?
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 11, 2011, 01:36:31 PM
Was W anywhere near Japan?

He doesn't need to be.

He can control his weather controlling device from the ranch.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Tarheel on March 11, 2011, 02:44:42 PM
My sister and her husband live on the North side of the same island.  She posted from her phone that everyone had been evacuated inland.

Hawaii can move everyone inland in a few hours notice.  New Orleans couldn't do the same in a few days notice.

The phones have been crazy there.  We were finally able to reach some friends in Oahu who said that they were OK; we heard from them via teh MyBook (or is it FaceSpace?).

Really acute observation there about the evacuation in Hawaii versus NO!
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: djsimp on March 16, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
Ummm, the shit keeps getting worse for folks in Japan. The Chernobyl disaster may end up taking second place in the worse nuclear plant disasters when this is all over. Not good at all.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110316/ts_nm/us_japan_quake
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: CCTAU on March 16, 2011, 12:38:47 PM
He doesn't need to be.

He can control his weather controlling device from the ranch.

Damn. Here we go again. "IT'S A WEATHERING MACHINE".
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: AUJarhead on March 16, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
When's Ming pressing the "Hot Hail" button?

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Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Token on March 16, 2011, 01:37:56 PM
What is it about Japan that makes it such an ideal location for nuclear disasters?
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: GarMan on March 16, 2011, 05:31:35 PM
Ummm, the poop keeps getting worse for folks in Japan. The Chernobyl disaster may end up taking second place in the worse nuclear plant disasters when this is all over. Not good at all.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110316/ts_nm/us_japan_quake 

Fortunately, this is overblown media hype at best...  Even if there is a partial meltdown as they're suspecting, the likelihood of this becoming anything like Chernobyl is slim-to-none.  The radiation leaks that have been reported are relatively insignificant.  We're talking about "radioactive" elements with half-lives of seconds versus Chernobyl's leaks of radioactive elements of 30+ years. 
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Tarheel on March 16, 2011, 06:33:14 PM
Fortunately, this is overblown media hype at best...  Even if there is a partial meltdown as they're suspecting, the likelihood of this becoming anything like Chernobyl is slim-to-none.  The radiation leaks that have been reported are relatively insignificant.  We're talking about "radioactive" elements with half-lives of seconds versus Chernobyl's leaks of radioactive elements of 30+ years.

I'm not at the Alex Jones red alert level on this issue (Everyone buy and take potassium iodate and iodide!!) but I do think that it's worse than the Japanese are telling the public.  The main reasons I think that are, admittedly, anecdotal, but after seeing those dramatic hydrogen explosions in three of the reactor buildings I simply can't believe that this is not a major catastrophic event.  Also, we do know that the Japanese designers built these containment buildings with tanks near the roof where they kept the 'spent' fuel rods which could have easily been blown out in the hydrogen explosion event(s) even though the containment structure around the pressure vessel(s) and the vessel(s) themselves inside have been deluged in sea water to prevent a meltdown.  My opinion is that the real worry is not a meltdown but with the 'spent' fuel rods being blown out of their cooling tanks and possibly blown apart exposing the plutonium and uranium pellets inside them.  In all seriousness, what's your opinion on that latter possibility GarMan?  (Do we need to meet and discuss this over a cocktail and cigars this evening while we watch basketball?)
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: djsimp on March 16, 2011, 07:27:44 PM
Well first, the whole deal with the Americans running out to buy iodine pills us just stupid. That only somewhat protects the Thyroid anyway.

The deal with the Nuclear Plants are a different story. At first, I really didn't think it was going to be that bad. Now though, 6 reactors are in distress and two of them they believe have been leaking out of the containment. One of the reactors fuel rods are now exposed fully. A meltdown is gonna happen at this point. One of the US Navy ships have detected radiation 60 miles out in the Pacific and they are also detecting small amounts of radiation in Tokyo which is about 150 miles South. The Japanese Government has tried to downplay this too, but they themselves have made comments to say there is a real threat.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: chinook on March 16, 2011, 07:33:59 PM
the japanese are afraid of exposing the real truth about superior japanese engineering.  calling chris hansen.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: GarMan on March 16, 2011, 07:50:12 PM
I'm not at the Alex Jones red alert level on this issue (Everyone buy and take potassium iodate and iodide!!) but I do think that it's worse than the Japanese are telling the public.  The main reasons I think that are, admittedly, anecdotal, but after seeing those dramatic hydrogen explosions in three of the reactor buildings I simply can't believe that this is not a major catastrophic event.  Also, we do know that the Japanese designers built these containment buildings with tanks near the roof where they kept the 'spent' fuel rods which could have easily been blown out in the hydrogen explosion event(s) even though the containment structure around the pressure vessel(s) and the vessel(s) themselves inside have been deluged in sea water to prevent a meltdown.  My opinion is that the real worry is not a meltdown but with the 'spent' fuel rods being blown out of their cooling tanks and possibly blown apart exposing the plutonium and uranium pellets inside them.  In all seriousness, what's your opinion on that latter possibility GarMan?  (Do we need to meet and discuss this over a cocktail and cigars this evening while we watch basketball?)

Me thinks cigars and cocktails are always in order, but we're not talking about this situation occuring in an unfriendly nation like Russia, China or North Korea.  We're physically working alongside them right now.  We have NRC officials onsite working with them to resolve the situation.  Here's an article the best explains it... 
http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-reactors-pose-no-risk-2011-3

Meanwhile, they also repositioned the carrier Ronald Reagan after instruments onboard detected radiation exposure.  The mass media outlets normally stop at that forgetting to explain that the crew was only exposed to about one month's normal exposure to natural background radiation in the environment which by the way is no different than picking up your bag at the TSA checkpoint after it's been scanned. 
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: djsimp on March 17, 2011, 12:16:39 AM
The US ships found these radiation readings before the actual belief of severe air contamination. It is believed that two of the site reactors have begun partial meltdown. The lack of cool down of the reactors is the fear, and even worse one of the sites is believed to have been fully exposed to the outside air. The Japanese Government is not denying this. Why? Because the actual site is not owned by the government but a contract company similar to Alabama Power. The same company that has been in question several times in the past about nuclear incidents. The hope here is that they can get power back to the back-up safety generators. Is it too late? Here is the deal, this will not effect any other country except Japan and maybe Russia; in a health standpoint that is.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: GarMan on March 17, 2011, 09:42:02 AM
The US ships found these radiation readings before the actual belief of severe air contamination. It is believed that two of the site reactors have begun partial meltdown. The lack of cool down of the reactors is the fear, and even worse one of the sites is believed to have been fully exposed to the outside air. The Japanese Government is not denying this. Why? Because the actual site is not owned by the government but a contract company similar to Alabama Power. The same company that has been in question several times in the past about nuclear incidents. The hope here is that they can get power back to the back-up safety generators. Is it too late? Here is the deal, this will not effect any other country except Japan and maybe Russia; in a health standpoint that is. 

Not sure what you mean by "too late"...  They just need to complete the cool down process.  Fear of containment breach is not necessarily the end of the world, Japan or the neighborhood where the plant is located because the reactors have already been shut down.  We're really just dealing with heat dissipation at this point. 
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: djsimp on March 17, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Not sure what you mean by "too late"...  They just need to complete the cool down process.  Fear of containment breach is not necessarily the end of the world, Japan or the neighborhood where the plant is located because the reactors have already been shut down.  We're really just dealing with heat dissipation at this point.

Too late to keep the area from being seriously contaminated. By area, I mean the plant itself and the nearby towns. I was listening last night and it was said that they were trying to get power back on. If they can do that, maybe they can get those cells cooled down.

I hate it for the Japanese, they don't need this shit and dealing with earthquake and Tsunami aftermath.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: CCTAU on March 17, 2011, 10:25:41 AM
And then you got idiots like Hitlary on the left claiming this is cause for alarm against building more nuclear plants here in the US. So I guess with all of this global climate change, she is predicting a 9.0 earthquake here in the future? Let's all just go into paralysis mode over what might possibly happen. I mean if aliens target our nuclear plants, we will never recover. Let's tear them down and never discuss it again so that our alien enemies cannot use it against us.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/sc_nm/us_nuclear_usa

Quote
But Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday the crisis raised questions about the use of nuclear energy in the United States.

"What's happening in Japan raises questions about the costs and the risks associated with nuclear power but we have to answer those," she said in an interview with MSNBC in which she emphasized the need for a comprehensive U.S. energy policy.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Saniflush on March 17, 2011, 10:27:02 AM
They will not be happy until we are back in mud huts.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: GH2001 on March 17, 2011, 10:39:29 AM
I'm with GarMan here. The media is overblowing a lot of this. In fact they WANT it get worse. Bad news sells. Keeps these bastard in business. Watch them when they report on it from Japan live. They all have boners over this disaster. Especially Shephard "i love ole miss" Smith. Making up hypotheticals about imminent meltdowns and the body count "will surely reach 100k by the time its all over". Seriously? And foxnews has been the worst one.

And chinook is correct. A lot of pride involved. Let the Germans handle it.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: djsimp on March 17, 2011, 10:51:44 AM
They will not be happy until we are back in mud huts.

So, what does it mean for the ones already in a mud hut?
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Saniflush on March 17, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
So, what does it mean for the ones already in a mud hut?

You will be sheltered by dry leaves and snot.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Tarheel on March 17, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
And then you got idiots like Hitlary on the left claiming this is cause for alarm against building more nuclear plants here in the US. So I guess with all of this global climate change, she is predicting a 9.0 earthquake here in the future? Let's all just go into paralysis mode over what might possibly happen. I mean if aliens target our nuclear plants, we will never recover. Let's tear them down and never discuss it again so that our alien enemies cannot use it against us.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/sc_nm/us_nuclear_usa

The Hildebeast is on the wrong side of The ONE on this argument; the Messiah has already authorized the two new reactors at Plant Vogtle here in Georgia which are now under construction; first new ones in the US in 30 years I think.

Tree-hugging, greeny idiots can't explain where we're supposed to replace the 20% of power that we derive from nuclear reactor plants much less the 54% that we get from coal-fired power plants or the 18% from natural gas (which they also hate).  Hydro-electric, wind turbines, geo-thermal, and solar only account for 8% (6% of that being hydro-electric).
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Saniflush on March 17, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
Tree-hugging, greeny idiots can't explain where we're supposed to replace the 20% of power that we derive from nuclear reactor plants much less the 54% that we get from coal-fired power plants or the 18% from natural gas (which they also hate).  Hydro-electric, wind turbines, geo-thermal, and solar only account for 8% (6% of that being hydro-electric).

This will come from hoses inserted into cattle rectum collecting cow farts.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Tarheel on March 17, 2011, 01:58:48 PM
This will come from hoses inserted into cattle rectum collecting cow farts.


A waste of good beef.


I think my gout is flaring up...big toes are hurting again...
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: GarMan on March 17, 2011, 02:14:19 PM

A waste of good beef. 

Fascist!!!  I care about the environment...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090507145752.htm
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Tarheel on March 17, 2011, 02:30:40 PM
Fascist!!!  I care about the environment...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090507145752.htm

I didn't take you for a vegetarian, GarMan.

The article was not as interesting as the advertisement for 'Uloric' for gout treatment that appeared in the right hand side of my screen.

Big Brother is always watching out for my best interests; I guess my IP address has been logged and tagged.
Title: Re: 8.9 Quake & Tsunami Hits Japan....
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 17, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
They be evacuating Americanos now.  The stuff ain't be coolin'