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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AWK on February 28, 2011, 09:51:33 PM
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Hey everyone.
Eric Smith, Auburn’s most versatile back, has been dismissed from the Auburn team for a violation of team rules. An athletic department spokesman confirmed the information Monday night.
The rising senior was no stranger to off-the-field issues. He was arrested for assault in August 2009 after hitting a student in the head. Though Smith was granted youthful offender status and didn’t face the criminal charge, he missed the Outback Bowl a few months later because of academic issues.
Smith emerged as a useful role player in 2010. He was used as a block-first back who cleared space on wide runs and short pass plays.
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I guess Anthony Morgan-Gulley will be moving back to RB & CJ Uzomah will be planted at the HB position.
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I saw that on al.com too. Well, it really sucks cause I like Smith but it is what it is now. I mean, if you've already been in the doghouse once, its probably wise to do all you can to stay outta there in the future.
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I really thought he was going to shine after his freshman year but he just could not seem to get out of the doghouse long term.
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Some just can't ever seem to learn how to make proper decisions. I hate it, but we'll be fine. Good blocker,decent hands, but replacable. Good luck to him.
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Some just can't ever seem to learn how to make proper decisions. I hate it, but we'll be fine. Good blocker,decent hands, but replacable. Good luck to him.
Problem is....replacable with who?...or whom?...I never get that one right.
RB Depth Chart goes:
Dyer
O'Mac
Ladarious Phillips 290 lb. never seen the field could be a fullback..probably a back up DT
Some walk on named Hooper or Cooper or Perry or some shit
Tre Mason 180 lb. true freshman
A couple of incoming freshmen who might be running backs, athletes, LB's, DB's or WR's.
Smith didn't carry the ball much but we were certainly going to need him to be a bigger part of the O....plus, he's a beast in teh blockage. This hurts!
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Problem is....replacable with who?...or whom?...I never get that one right.
RB Depth Chart goes:
Dyer
O'Mac
Ladarious Phillips 290 lb. never seen the field could be a fullback..probably a back up DT
Some walk on named Hooper or Cooper or Perry or some shit
Tre Mason 180 lb. true freshman
A couple of incoming freshmen who might be running backs, athletes, LB's, DB's or WR's.
Smith didn't carry the ball much but we were certainly going to need him to be a bigger part of the O....plus, he's a beast in teh blockage. This hurts!
we've got more depth at deep snapper.
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we've got more depth at deep snapper.
This man knows
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Problem is....replacable with who?...or whom?...I never get that one right.
RB Depth Chart goes:
Dyer
O'Mac
Ladarious Phillips 290 lb. never seen the field could be a fullback..probably a back up DT
Some walk on named Hooper or Cooper or Perry or some poop
Tre Mason 180 lb. true freshman
A couple of incoming freshmen who might be running backs, athletes, LB's, DB's or WR's.
Smith didn't carry the ball much but we were certainly going to need him to be a bigger part of the O....plus, he's a beast in teh blockage. This hurts!
Lutzy had better be bulking up. He came in for Smith a lot at H-Back. If he could develop as a blocker he would also be helping his own NFL stock.
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Lutzy had better be bulking up. He came in for Smith a lot at H-Back. If he could develop as a blocker he would also be helping his own NFL stock.
I think we're about to see Ladarious steamroll some mofos.
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Problem is....replacable with who?...or whom?...I never get that one right.
RB Depth Chart goes:
Dyer
O'Mac
Ladarious Phillips 290 lb. never seen the field could be a fullback..probably a back up DT
Some walk on named Hooper or Cooper or Perry or some shit
Tre Mason 180 lb. true freshman
A couple of incoming freshmen who might be running backs, athletes, LB's, DB's or WR's.
Smith didn't carry the ball much but we were certainly going to need him to be a bigger part of the O....plus, he's a beast in teh blockage. This hurts!
Trust me, he can be replaced.
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I think most of you got it right, Lutz will see more H-back play to add to his role. I agree with Prowler too, Uzomah will have a huge chance to come in and get significant playing time. The one I am curious about is LT. Give that sombitch the ball, shit. Let him steam roll some suckas.
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Trust me, he can be replaced.
Snaggle...JR is referring to the annual spring football production of Fiddler on the Roof...Its not like Smith was going to play Topol.
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Some walk on named Hooper or Cooper or Perry or some shit
He's good:
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I disagree on just automatically assuming he can be replaced and more or less, downplaying his role in this offense. First off, we're talking about might be's and could be's and guys changing positions to fill in. Do you really want Lutz to move from TE, where he had become one of the best at that position in this league by season's end? Are you sure it would be a successful move? Smith has played 3 years at the position and understood blitz pick ups and overall blocking schemes. Can someone just step in and keep guys off of Fro-throw?
And please, spare me the "I've watched film on the guy and he wasn't..." No you haven't and he wouldn't have been the starter all season on the national championship team if he wasn't really good.
I don't think most people realize how this team is one pulled hamstring, one tweaked knee away from being in a world of shit at the RB position.
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I disagree on just automatically assuming he can be replaced and more or less, downplaying his role in this offense. First off, we're talking about might be's and could be's and guys changing positions to fill in. Do you really want Lutz to move from TE, where he had become one of the best at that position in this league by season's end? Are you sure it would be a successful move? Smith has played 3 years at the position and understood blitz pick ups and overall blocking schemes. Can someone just step in and keep guys off of Fro-throw?
And please, spare me the "I've watched film on the guy and he wasn't..." No you haven't and he wouldn't have been the starter all season on the national championship team if he wasn't really good.
I don't think most people realize how this team is one pulled hamstring, one tweaked knee away from being in a world of shit at the RB position.
He was listed on the depth chart as a WR. His role was as an H Back...primarily a blocker. His skills can be coached. He was good at hus job, and most dont even recognize that, but the can find another guy that can and will block. Probably from the TEs.
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I disagree on just automatically assuming he can be replaced and more or less, downplaying his role in this offense. First off, we're talking about might be's and could be's and guys changing positions to fill in. Do you really want Lutz to move from TE, where he had become one of the best at that position in this league by season's end? Are you sure it would be a successful move? Smith has played 3 years at the position and understood blitz pick ups and overall blocking schemes. Can someone just step in and keep guys off of Fro-throw?
And please, spare me the "I've watched film on the guy and he wasn't..." No you haven't and he wouldn't have been the starter all season on the national championship team if he wasn't really good.
I don't think most people realize how this team is one pulled hamstring, one tweaked knee away from being in a world of poop at the RB position.
I think the individual player we might end up missing the most from last season (with the obvious exception of Cam) might be Fannin. He had trouble hanging on to the ball but he was everything you could ask for as a third down back: an exceptional blocker in pass protection, speed to take a swing or screen to the house, and good enough hands that he could not be ignored downfield. Who is going to fill those roles? O-Mac has the speed but I recall him missing a few blocks. I don't know how good a receiver Dyer is ready to be, plus he will need a breather and the best place to get it will most likely be in 3rd and 5+. Freshmen running backs never have the blocking skills you need to be put in on passing downs.
I'm not as worried about replacing the graduating linemen or the loss of Fairley or even Cam as I am about our depth at RB.
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Gang, I'm not worried and here is why. Auburn won the National Championship. That means they are one of the top programs. Do I expect them to do it every year? No, that's unrealistic. What I expect is to be in the hunt and have to rebuild from time to time. Next year is a rebuild year and that's fine with me because they'll have to call Auburn the Defending National Champions all year. At least, they better do that because they blew that line of sunshine up Bama's butt every single week.
Future is bright, folks. Enjoy basking in the glory and smacking Bammer's ego like a game of whack-a-mole.
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I think the individual player we might end up missing the most from last season (with the obvious exception of Cam) might be Fannin. He had trouble hanging on to the ball but he was everything you could ask for as a third down back: an exceptional blocker in pass protection, speed to take a swing or screen to the house, and good enough hands that he could not be ignored downfield. Who is going to fill those roles? O-Mac has the speed but I recall him missing a few blocks. I don't know how good a receiver Dyer is ready to be, plus he will need a breather and the best place to get it will most likely be in 3rd and 5+. Freshmen running backs never have the blocking skills you need to be put in on passing downs.
I'm not as worried about replacing the graduating linemen or the loss of Fairley or even Cam as I am about our depth at RB.
Fannin good blocker. Replacable...maybe with a guy you can trust with the ball. The OLs inexperience is the biggest thing we will misd, other than Cam.
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Now wait just a danggone minute.
Last year I said it would be hard to replace Tate and Todd who accounted for about 80% of the offensive production. I was ridiculed. I was also wrong.
But now you're telling me we can't replace Eric Smith? THIS is the epic disaster?
I'm not getting this football thing any longer. Somebody draw me a picture.
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I think most of you got it right, Lutz will see more H-back play to add to his role. I agree with Prowler too, Uzomah will have a huge chance to come in and get significant playing time. The one I am curious about is LT. Give that sombitch the ball, shit. Let him steam roll some suckas.
It's very possible that he might find his way in the backfield as a two down, short yardage guy. Don't have experience returning on the OL so I guess he'll get a good look as his own battering ram. If Phillips gets started he looks a beast against high school midgets but I think a team with good size up front had rather see Auburn use this approach as opposed to guessing what Gus will do. It brings a tear to my eye knowing that I may never see a Rudy Johnson at Auburn again. Ahem, figureatively of course.
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I'm not getting this football thing any longer. Somebody draw me a picture.
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This is all I got for now.
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Now wait just a danggone minute.
Last year I said it would be hard to replace Tate and Todd who accounted for about 80% of the offensive production. I was ridiculed. I was also wrong.
But now you're telling me we can't replace Eric Smith? THIS is the epic disaster?
I'm not getting this football thing any longer. Somebody draw me a picture.
Last year we knew we were bringing in a QB with experience (not just in juco, but in the SEC as well; how often do you get to say that?) plus we had O-Mac, Fannin, and Smith returning along with the #1 RB recruit in the country who had as close to a SEC ready physique coming out of high school as you are going to get.
This year we have a QB who should be intimately familiar with the system. One thing about Gus's offense, it is a system offense like the run and shoot was or the BYU air it out O of the 80's. It will allow a QB with non-exceptional talent (like Todd or hopefully Trotter) to put up gaudier numbers than one might expect. To me QB is not a major area of concern.
RB depth coupled with the fact that we will be integrating a new offensive line might be. We are really returning two tackles with starting experience, plus Reese Dismukes has enrolled early and will get the added benefit of spring practice to move into the center slot. We will have to pull a guard out of our freshmen class because the starter and backup at both guard slots were seniors last year. Maybe Burgess could stick at center and Dismukes moves to guard or vice versa?
I'm still concerned that neither or our returning RB's have shown themselves to be good receivers which was a cruicial part of our offense lat year (Fannin was 4th on the team in receptions; O-Mac and Dyer both got way more field time and combined for 8 receptions; for the talk of Smith being a receiving threat he only had 5 catches for 49yds and 0TD).
I agree with the people who are saying that Smith can be replaced. I get the feeling that he was just an all around bad seed. His unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the NC game was more embarrassing than all Fairley's so called dirty plays for the whole year combined. Fannin can be replaced as well but it will have to be by committee.
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On further thought, Godfather presents a much more compelling post than anything anyone has come up with, ever. What was the original topic about?
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On further thought, Godfather presents a much more compelling post than anything anyone has come up with, ever. What was the original topic about?
i could add some wrinkle lines and crows feet and failed gravity to mine if need be.
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i could add some wrinkle lines and crows feet and failed gravity to mine if need be.
All I can see of yours is a red X. Stupid firewall.
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Barrett Trotter (Kiehl Frazier as well) is not Cam Newton. He can't and won't run the way Cam Newton ran, and we won't have any where near the same running game.
While Eric Smith will be missed in certain situations, Lutz is a much better target in the passing game, which I honestly believe is going to open up this year.
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First off, O-Mac is 136 pounds with his pads on...soaking wet. He ain't blocking anybody. Ladarious Phillips has never played a down and while he may be an obvious short yardage load at 290, who knows if he's fast enough to get to, or can even recognize an SEC DE comig around the end? This just concerns me because we're talking about moving guys from other positions to "learn" Smith's (a 3 year player) position. Again, the bigger concern is injuries. We were beyond lucky in the injury department last year. RB is probably the one position where we can least afford to get someone banged up for any length of time. We ain't rollin' any deep at that position.
There was a reason they limited Eric Smith's role. He was a beast of a blocker and there was no need to run him as long as we had Tate the year before and Dyer/O-Mac getting it done this year. But he more than proved what he could do as a freshman both running the ball and coming out of the backfield as a receiver. If Dyer goes down, I'd feel a lot more comfortable handing the ball off to a 240 pound, senior with that kind of experience, than I would putting O-Mac or true freshman Tre Mason back there as your feature back. Or Hooper....or Cooper..or Perry or whoever that guy is.
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i could add some wrinkle lines and crows feet and failed gravity to mine if need be.
Check with Kaos - may need a bigger nose too
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Snag...
If the injury bug hits, it always hurts. We have a very good and experienced tandem in Dyet and Omac. They will get the bulk of the work. Trey Mason will play. Lad Phillips may contribute at H, as will Lutz and maybe Dakota Mosley. We will be fine, and we are not in dire straights at RB.
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Snag...
If the injury bug hits, it always hurts. We have a very good and experienced tandem in Dyet and Omac. They will get the bulk of the work. Trey Mason will play. Lad Phillips may contribute at H, as will Lutz and maybe Dakota Mosley. We will be fine, and we are not in dire straights at RB.
Why do you hate Sultans of Swing
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Why do you hate Sultans of Swing
Cuz, the little faggot, he's a millionaire.
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Cuz, the little faggot, he's a millionaire.
You can't say that. Now edit yourself...or maybe take out that entire verse.
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Eric Smith dismissed????? People Stampeded and cattle raped.
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And I am guessing this gets us into the Fulmer Cup race...
AUBURN - Former Auburn running back Eric Smith was arrested for third degree domestic violence on Feb. 22, six days before the university confirmed he was dismissed from the team for a violation of team rules.
Smith spent almost 12 hours at the Lee County Detention Center before being released on a $500 bond. The police report said Smith was sober and did not resist arrest. The university did not say when Smith was dismissed from the team.
Smith was also arrested for third degree assault before the 2009 season for striking another university student. Smith received youthful offender status in that case. He was suspended for a game.
Smith's role during Auburn's 2010 national championship run was primarily as a blocking back. He had one carry for zero yards for the season.
He rushed for 182 yards as a freshman and sophomore.
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CJ Uzomah 6'5" 240lbs. can fill that role. "The Rhino" can fill that role too. Also, we have 3 OL with starting experience.
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CJ Uzomah 6'5" 240lbs. can fill that role. "The Rhino" can fill that role too. Also, we have 3 OL with starting experience.
The Rhino makes more sense as Uzomah is a bit tall and a former QB that might not be serviceable as a battering ram, not one to engage as a rule.
LP is about 25-50 pounds too heavy to be effective on the field for 30-40 plays.
Eric Smith is going to be missed because he was a grinder and fit that mold at 5-10ish and 225+.
That won't stop Malzahn. That's no dilemma. And short LBs and smallish DEs that have a motor and love contact are out there...maybe on the team already.
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And I am guessing this gets us into the Fulmer Cup race...
Funny, I don't remember ever hearing about the first two DV arrests in the news.
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Funny, I don't remember ever hearing about the first two DV arrests in the news.
I don't know about 2 other DV arrests but his original sin was chasing down a dude in a nightclub and knockin' that bitch out. Well publicized.
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Funny, I don't remember ever hearing about the first two DV arrests in the news.
I never heard of two others either. I think one of them may be confused with the frat boy fight he was in 2 years ago. Still no excuse.
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Erk Smiff prolly got more chances than he deserved.
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I don't know about 2 other DV arrests but his original sin was chasing down a dude in a nightclub and knockin' that bitch out. Well publicized.
Yeah, you knock a guy out at a night club, you'll have that. Same thing when you snatch a white bitch down by her hair.
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Yeah, you knock a guy out at a night club, you'll have that. Same thing when you snatch a white bitch down by her hair.
Sometimes she needs to be told twice.
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Yeah, you knock a guy out at a night club, you'll have that. Same thing when you snatch a white bitch down by her hair.
Oh dear GOD.
Not even in the same ballpark.
Two guys fighting? I don't have a problem with that.
Choking and slamming a girl? Yeah. That's a problem.
How were the two issues handled?
Upshaw is a "fine young man" and her daddy said she probably deserved it.
Smith was suspended. And now out.
Hmmm.
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Erk Smiff prolly got more chances than he deserved.
I suspect you are probably right.
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Whatever happened to that dude that was kicking out a police car window. He never played again, did he?
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Whatever happened to that dude that was kicking out a police car window. He never played again, did he?
BOOM!
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Erk Smiff prolly got more chances than he deserved.
You have got to get another phone.
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Oh dear GOD.
Not even in the same ballpark.
Two guys fighting? I don't have a problem with that.
Choking and slamming a girl? Yeah. That's a problem.
How were the two issues handled?
Upshaw is a "fine young man" and her daddy said she probably deserved it.
Smith was suspended. And now out.
Hmmm.
Subtle differences.
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Doesn't Eric Smith have a brother that plays for Alabama? Obviously there are some genetic problems somewhere in the family. I'm guessing a couple of extra Y chromosomes.
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Oh dear GOD.
Not even in the same ballpark.
Two guys fighting? I don't have a problem with that.
Choking and slamming a girl? Yeah. That's a problem.
How were the two issues handled?
Upshaw is a "fine young man" and her daddy said she probably deserved it.
Smith was suspended. And now out.
Hmmm.
I was more so saying "Our guys fuck up too" than actually comparing situations. It's not like our guys haven't had their share of run ins with the law. Like I've said before, is it really that big of a surprise that we want these guys to be violent on the field and play in a violent sport, and low and behold......they're violent people?
But, if you're going to compare, being arrested 3 times for domestic violence and once for assault makes a pattern. Getting the shit knocked out of you by your girlfriend for talking to some other woman and then giving back, while still inexcusable, is a little different and does not show a pattern. For that matter, your claim of a choke slam isn't even accurate either.
Of course, only you and a few others would point out how swiftly AU acted for booting Smith after being arrested 4 times, and how irresponsible Alabama is for keeping Upshaw for 1 arrest.
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I was more so saying "Our guys fuck up too" than actually comparing situations. It's not like our guys haven't had their share of run ins with the law. Like I've said before, is it really that big of a surprise that we want these guys to be violent on the field and play in a violent sport, and low and behold......they're violent people?
But, if you're going to compare, being arrested 3 times for domestic violence and once for assault makes a pattern. Getting the shit knocked out of you by your girlfriend for talking to some other woman and then giving back, while still inexcusable, is a little different and does not show a pattern. For that matter, your claim of a choke slam isn't even accurate either.
Of course, only you and a few others would point out how swiftly AU acted for booting Smith after being arrested 4 times, and how irresponsible Alabama is for keeping Upshaw for 1 arrest.
Jesus, man.
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First it's 3, then it's 4.
AUBURN - Former Auburn running back Eric Smith was arrested for third degree domestic violence on Feb. 22, six days before the university confirmed he was dismissed from the team for a violation of team rules. This is one. The one that just happened. The one the article's about. Thus, you've heard about it.
Smith spent almost 12 hours at the Lee County Detention Center before being released on a $500 bond. The police report said Smith was sober and did not resist arrest. The university did not say when Smith was dismissed from the team. We're still talking about the same recent arrest. Still on the same page?
Smith was also arrested for third degree assault before the 2009 season for striking another university student. Smith received youthful offender status in that case. He was suspended for a game. This is two. The other one we definitely, definitely heard about.
Smith's role during Auburn's 2010 national championship run was primarily as a blocking back. He had one carry for zero yards for the season.
He rushed for 182 yards as a freshman and sophomore.
Where the fuck do you see three, let alone four arrests in there?
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Jesus, man.
First it's 3, then it's 4.
Where the fuck do you see three, let alone four arrests in there?
I think I, and a few others, read it as "his third". Personally, I'm used to seeing "domestic violence third", so I think that is why I read it the way I did, so my mistake on that. If Upshaw gets arrested again, Kaos will have a point. But until then?
If we wanted to get REALLY technical, he has been arrested 3 times. Once for disorderly the night of the club incident, a few days later arrested on the assault warrant that was sworn out, and now this arrest for DV 3rd. But relative to the article I was quoting, I was wrong and misread that.
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Doesn't Eric Smith have a brother that plays for Alabama? Obviously there are some genetic problems somewhere in the family. I'm guessing a couple of extra Y chromosomes.
LB Petey Smith.
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I think I, and a few others, read it as "his third". Personally, I'm used to seeing "domestic violence third", so I think that is why I read it the way I did, so my mistake on that. If Upshaw gets arrested again, Kaos will have a point. But until then?
First charge of domestic violence = Dismissed.
Upshaw? "Fine young man"
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Fucking Updyke.
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First charge of domestic violence = Dismissed.
Upshaw? "Fine young man"
Pffffttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt......................
Fucking Updyke.
I am eagerly awaiting the details of Smith's recent domestic violence arrest. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the Upshaw situation. For that matter, Smith was found guilty of assault from the club incident and took youthful offender. I'm not sure whatever happened to the disorderly conduct charges police arrested him for the night of the incident. The assault charge was a warrant sworn out by a magistrate at a later date, so that was a separate arrest. Upshaw's charges were dismissed. Just another case of the Alabama Machine at work though, I'm sure.
And obviously, this conversation relates to somebody poisoning the trees. Obviously.
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I am eagerly awaiting the details of Smith's recent domestic violence arrest. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the Upshaw situation. For that matter, Smith was found guilty of assault from the club incident and took youthful offender. I'm not sure whatever happened to the disorderly conduct charges police arrested him for the night of the incident. The assault charge was a warrant sworn out by a magistrate at a later date, so that was a separate arrest. Upshaw's charges were dismissed. Just another case of the Alabama Machine at work though, I'm sure.
And obviously, this conversation relates to somebody poisoning the trees. Obviously.
^^ Updyke ^^
Dismissed because that bitch deserved it. Daddy said so.
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One domestic charge dismissed or whatever.
Two separate charges relating to violence makes you a deviant or deviant/athlete.
If you need an attorney twice in your college career you probably need to find a fucking job.
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Smiff slapped a bitch and The Chin slapped Smiff. That's how it's done.
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Whatever happened to that dude that was kicking out a police car window. He never played again, did he?
You mean Brandon Deadrick? Yes he played as did Roy Upchurch after he cursed out a female police officer and when told that Coach sabbin was going to be contacted, his response was "Fuck sabbin".