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Title: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 27, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
I ask this in all seriousness, hoping for someone (not prowler) to provide some legitimate insight.  

Hillary is on a tour with Chelsea pissing and moaning about how terrible things are and what a mess Trump is making. The shockingly left media is loathe to give him credit for anything. The Hollywood morons whine and mock.  

But what has he done as president that’s wrong?  

He didn’t collude with the Russians.  He didn’t obstruct anything.  It’s pretty clear that the “ruling elite” manufactured scandal in an effort to undermine his candidacy and then delegitimize his administration.   Not just democrats.  Republicans too.  

Everything he’s done while in Office has been remarkably effective.  He’s dealing with the world from a position of strength, not capitulation.  

We are safer, stronger, richer and more stable.  

His response to Syria showed power.  His management of the Korean issue shows shrewdness and guts. His demand that we take better care of our borders is patriotic and proud.  This president has given me a sense of pride and hope that I haven’t had in years.  And it feels good.

And yet all they do from CNN, msnbc, the networks, that abominable (deport him) troll Trevor Noah, the late night dickheads, the Hollywood cabal  is chip away at him.  No facts, no truth. Just snide shots that demean the man and the Office. They do it in ways that would never be tolerated should the same have been done toward the Imam or Bitchlery.  

Do Pelosi, Schumer, Sanders, Clinton, etc really want us to return to the hell that was?  

The only thing that gives me any pause is the overblown Stormy issue.  So he banged a porn skank years before he even considered political aspirations.  I get that people close to him probably wouldn’t want her popping up with the stories she’d been trying to sell for years.  She’d already been paid for those stories by the National Enquirer who found them so lacking they didn’t even run it.  I’d feel better if he just said “whoops, sorry” and moved on. Maybe a backdated cease and desist?  Or just pay the money back. I mean he works really hard and has been out in the sun.  That’s enough. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: bottomfeeder on May 27, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
It's really very simple. Trump is sane while Billary, Chelsea and the liberal left are all brainwashed sheeple who belong in a place like Bryce Hospital. The greed and taxation the left did during the Obama administration clusterfuck ruined this country in many ways. It's like a wound healing. First, you have to stop the bleeding. Then, after healing takes place, there is a period of rehabilitation. I'm not sure which stage we are in, but the bleeding continues every time the Federal Reserve gives Congress currency to spend.

I'm waiting for the default to happen.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 27, 2018, 03:56:15 PM
I guess most of these queers are against Trump’s suggestions of going back to seperate but equal.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 27, 2018, 07:17:21 PM
Real issues? None. 

Made up bullshit and conjecture? A ton. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 28, 2018, 08:42:57 AM
The problem is pretty simple really.

Trump is taking away the power that the Clintons, Bush's, Kennedy's, etc have in this world and they are trying to destroy him for it. It really simply boils down to that.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 28, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
The problem is pretty simple really.

Trump is taking away the power that the Clintons, Bush's, Kennedy's, etc have in this world and they are trying to destroy him for it. It really simply boils down to that.
The deep state/swamp/D.C. Cartel vs someone not in it. That's what you're seeing. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 28, 2018, 11:38:03 AM
The problem is pretty simple really.

Trump is taking away the power that the Clintons, Bush's, Kennedy's, etc have in this world and they are trying to destroy him for it. It really simply boils down to that.
^^in essence, absolutely correct. Although I don’t believe he’s been completely successful or will complete the task. He’s come closer than anyone and made a huge dent.
I’m a believer now. Never was before.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 28, 2018, 10:46:26 PM
The only thing that gives me any pause is the overblown Stormy issue.  So he banged a porn skank years before he even considered political aspirations.  I get that people close to him probably wouldn’t want her popping up with the stories she’d been trying to sell for years.  She’d already been paid for those stories by the National Enquirer who found them so lacking they didn’t even run it.  I’d feel better if he just said “whoops, sorry” and moved on. Maybe a backdated cease and desist?  Or just pay the money back. I mean he works really hard and has been out in the sun.  That’s enough.
Funny, I didn't see all this bitching and moaning from you when Fox News & Alex Jones were trashing Obama and his family. I also didn't see it when people were hanging an effigy of Obama.

Also, Trump ran for Presidency back in 2000. The affair between he and Stormy Daniels happened in 2006, the affair between he and Melania also happened after "Trump had political aspirations".

As for the National Enquirer not running it, that's Trump's favorite paper, his buddies weren't going to run it.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 28, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
Funny, I didn't see all this bitching and moaning from you when Fox News & Alex Jones were trashing Obama and his family. I also didn't see it when people were hanging an effigy of Obama.

Also, Trump ran for Presidency back in 2000. The affair between he and Stormy Daniels happened in 2006, the affair between he and Melania also happened after "Trump had political aspirations".

As for the National Enquirer not running it, that's Trump's favorite paper, his buddies weren't going to run it.
I specifically asked you not to spew idiocy in this thread.  
What you've done here is worse than idiocy.  At this point you have to be faking.  Nobody can be this stupid. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 12:13:30 AM
I specifically asked you not to spew idiocy in this thread.  
What you've done here is worse than idiocy.  At this point you have to be faking.  Nobody can be this stupid.
What, posted the truth...is that considered "idiocy" here?
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: CCTAU on May 29, 2018, 01:17:54 AM
.  Nobody can be this stupid.
I fear you are completely wrong with that assumption!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 09:17:54 AM
What, posted the truth...is that considered "idiocy" here?
You've debased yourself and ruined numerous threads.  I've been a party to that by trying to either engage you or mock the appalling ignorance displayed.  

I always thought you were just acting on some level.  Thought you couldn't possibly be serious.  If you are just clowning, stop.  It ceased being funny a long time ago and has had a detrimental impact on this forum.  If you ARE serious in these outlandish ideas you espouse?  Please get help.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: wesfau2 on May 29, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
 It ceased being funny a long time ago and has had a detrimental impact on this forum.
Yeah, it's definitely Prowler's fault.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 29, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
Yeah, it's definitely Prowler's fault.
So maybe you can explain what the president has done wrong?
I'll give you that you don't want to secure the borders and that you disagree with the immigration policy. I don't agree with you, but at least I know why someone would believe what they believe.
What else?
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: wesfau2 on May 29, 2018, 10:07:57 AM
So maybe you can explain what the president has done wrong?
I'll give you that you don't want to secure the borders and that you disagree with the immigration policy. I don't agree with you, but at least I know why someone would believe what they believe.
What else?
There's no point in it...the joy of discussion is gone.  This place has evolved into a fact-fluid echo-chamber, worthy only of an occasional drive-by post.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 10:33:37 AM
So maybe you can explain what the president has done wrong?
I'll give you that you don't want to secure the borders and that you disagree with the immigration policy. I don't agree with you, but at least I know why someone would believe what they believe.
What else?
Nothing to do with the president.  He's "do better" finger pointing.  

Dislikes the fact that his "higher thoughts" are in the minority.  Blames me, essentially.  I've already accepted that burden. There were times I should have let it go (but I was right, so I didn't). 
 
I have no problem with different opinions and always appreciated the fact that his seemed well-reasoned and thoughtfully considered.  I do, however, honestly believe wes fell prey to Trump Derangement Syndrome.  He's become unwilling to even entertain the idea that Trump might actually be a good president and ignores all the positives in a quest to demean or demonize.  In that, he joined an alliance with the resident shrieking loon and got pushed to the fringe.  When you're rushing to the defense of indefensible positions merely because "Trump bad" is ricocheting around in your brain?  It changes everything.

The "echo chamber" he refers to is the fact that most of us (like most of the country) share a relatively similar viewpoint, based on similar experiences.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
Trump in a nuttz shell for me:

As Trump started gaining popularity during the campaign, I started paying attention to his platform.  I agreed with virtually every talking point, right down the line.

Trash the bad trade deals to bring jobs back to Murrica'

Trash Obama Care.  It definitely hurt my business and my wallet. 

Actually tackle the illegal immigration issue head on, unlike every Prez before him.

Unapologetically take on terrorism.

Strengthen the military.

Focus on the infrastructure.

Free condoms for elementary school kids and "Porn Movie Tuesdays."

I also found his "style" to be somewhat refreshing, in that he simply was not a politician and had no use for political correctness.  He had, and still has, no filter.  Early on, he bashed illegal immigrants, saying Mexicans be raping err'body up in here.  The PC world hammered him and he lost countless sponsors and millions of $$$.  That only seemed to empower him.  He seemed to feed off the negativity.  But I think it was more a matter of the ground swell of support that was happening from Joe Schmo at the water cooler who had also been saying, "Damn right.  Mexicans been raping err'body up in here....Frick Machmud.  Don't coddle those terrorists.  Blow em' up".  We were coming off 8 years of a leader who was too afraid to call people who executed Americans by cutting their heads off on camera, "Radicals".  Trump didn't care.  He called everything and everyone as he saw it/them.  Show of hands.  How many here think Hillary is a crook?  Trump publically calls her "Crooked Hillary" every time he refers to her.  He just doesn't care. 

But, he was still a carnival barker to me.  I didn't want him as my President.  I wished any of the other candidates had his platform and were willing to take on these issues, but with a lot less of the bravado.  When I went to vote, I probably stared at the ballot for a full minute in disbelief that these were the only two choices.  But, here we are.

Now, I find myself pulling for the man like no President before him.  He's doing everything in his power to accomplish exactly what he said he would do. And he's doing it in the face of more vitriol, bias and pure hatred than I have ever seen in my lifetime. Now, I've finally started to get how the man operates.  He approaches every issue as a negotiation and he's the one negotiating from a position of absolute power.  You threaten us with nukes?  Fine. Mine's bigger than yours.  He starts with absolutes and knows there will have to be compromises in the end to get the deal done.  Yeah, I still wish he'd take a long break from the twatters.  Otherwise, I hope the man keeps doing exactly what he's been doing the last year and a half.        








Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 29, 2018, 11:09:37 AM
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Show of hands.  How many here think Hillary is a crook?
:meme:
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 11:23:32 AM
I shudder to think where we'd be if she'd gotten away with it.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 12:02:46 PM
Yeah, it's definitely Prowler's fault.
Maybe it’s not all Prowler’s fault.
But I honestly feel like I’ve done nothing wrong. And I’ve been told that there are supposed friends threatening to beat my ass behind my back, for “ruining the x”.
First of all, how could anyone “ruin” the x?
Can one ruin a train wreck? Or, a 48 hour run-and-shit virus?
Secondly, if you actually want to fight about it, say it to my face, “friend”.
I don’t need any of this. I’m much more important than you realize. And, I will report your gay stuff to the moderator.
You know who you are.
Keep it up. Idiot.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: wesfau2 on May 29, 2018, 02:58:44 PM
Nothing to do with the president.  He's "do better" finger pointing.  


Only in the sense that a forum such as this should, in my mind, be fertile ground for give-and-take discussion.  It once was.  It no longer is.

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Dislikes the fact that his "higher thoughts" are in the minority.

Yes, begrudges the fact that drooling bammerish display is heralded as new patriotism and any nuance or fact can just be shouted over with "WRONG" or "FAKE NEWS."

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 Blames me, essentially.  I've already accepted that burden. There were times I should have let it go (but I was right, so I didn't).

You're a part, but not the total problem.  Your "debate" style, such as it is, doesn't brook much counter-debate.  We saw it in the football forums, too, so it's not just a political issue.  When forced to play within debate norms, your arguments frequently fall apart.  Shit, Chopper was serving you pretty hard at one point down in the football forum.


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I have no problem with different opinions and always appreciated the fact that his seemed well-reasoned and thoughtfully considered. 

That second part may be true, but that first clause is a steaming pile. 

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I do, however, honestly believe wes fell prey to Trump Derangement Syndrome.  He's become unwilling to even entertain the idea that Trump might actually be a good president and ignores all the positives in a quest to demean or demonize.  In that, he joined an alliance with the resident shrieking loon and got pushed to the fringe.  When you're rushing to the defense of indefensible positions merely because "Trump bad" is ricocheting around in your brain?  It changes everything.

That's just wrong.  I'm willing to give credit...when something credit-worthy happens.  The "achievements" that get trumpeted in here don't ring as such in my head.  That speaks to a fundamental difference in some of us that, prior to the full Trump claxon-horn sounding in here, provided fodder for some really great discussion.

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The "echo chamber" he refers to is the fact that most of us (like most of the country) share a relatively similar viewpoint, based on similar experiences. 

Your numbers re: rest of the country are a bit off.  The "echo chamber" is the lining up of a few of the posters here to simply backslap the newest bit of thinly veiled racism parading as a facebook meme or some idiotic appeal to those sentiments dressed up as "plain speakin" to counteract all that awful PC culture.

Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 03:01:57 PM
Only in the sense that a forum such as this should, in my mind, be fertile ground for give-and-take discussion.  It once was.  It no longer is.

Yes, begrudges the fact that drooling bammerish display is heralded as new patriotism and any nuance or fact can just be shouted over with "WRONG" or "FAKE NEWS."

You're a part, but not the total problem.  Your "debate" style, such as it is, doesn't brook much counter-debate.  We saw it in the football forums, too, so it's not just a political issue.  When forced to play within debate norms, your arguments frequently fall apart.  Shit, Chopper was serving you pretty hard at one point down in the football forum.


That second part may be true, but that first clause is a steaming pile.  

That's just wrong.  I'm willing to give credit...when something credit-worthy happens.  The "achievements" that get trumpeted in here don't ring as such in my head.  That speaks to a fundamental difference in some of us that, prior to the full Trump claxon-horn sounding in here, provided fodder for some really great discussion.

Your numbers re: rest of the country are a bit off.  The "echo chamber" is the lining up of a few of the posters here to simply backslap the newest bit of thinly veiled racism parading as a facebook meme or some idiotic appeal to those sentiments dressed up as "plain speakin" to counteract all that awful PC culture.
Not going to get into a point/counterpoint.  
Suffice it to say:
You know nothing, wes snow.  All of your notions and suppositions are off base.  

Edited to add: 
You really don't get me at all.  I push buttons in order to get reactions.  Part of my "debate style" as you put it, is to see how far I can push you. I like to work in absolutes (even though I know there aren't usually such things).  Good, bad, black white, up, down.  There are times I KNOW I'm wrong, but I want you (or whoever) to prove it.  Part of that "style" is to drive the conversation to the middle.  It drove you further left. 

You think I don't brook debate?  Damn, son.  Nothing worthwhile in this country was ever achieved without a healthy dose of give and take.  I enjoy the debate.  Even when I'm being my most kaotic, I hear what you say and am definitely willing to change an opinion (eventually).  

Some of the stuff that you said:  "drooling bammerish display" and "Trump claxon horn" really smacks of the kind of elitism that fueled the whole Trump phenomenon.  

Taking pride in things we deem to be patriotic or beneficial to this county, its economy or its safety is hardly a "drooling display."   

If you took half the things that have happened since Trump was elected and flipped the script to pretend they'd all occurred under Hillary's presidential watch?  You'd be insufferable in your gloating.  

I started this topic for a serious reason.  I wanted YOU specifically to explain to me what I'm missing.  

The economy is surging (the opposite of what the media predicted). 

Our position on the world stage is stronger than it has been in decades (the opposite of what the media warned).
 
The dominant stance taken by Trump in relation to North Korea has done more to create a climate where peace is possible than anyone or anything has done since the Korean War ended. (The opposite of what the media said would happen). 

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem is the right thing to do. He promised it.  He did it.  

ISIS is an afterthought. We stopped trying to be nice and put the hammer down.  (Media predicted the opposite)

Maybe you disagree on his hardline immigration stance, I don't know.  I DO know from the time when I was teaching is that if you START soft you can never go hard (that's what she said).  Start the year as the nice guy teacher? You're a doormat by Christmas.  You've got to establish your lines.  That's what Trump is doing.  You can't back down when you give it all away at first.  

If nothing else, Trump gets that.  I told you from the very beginning the man was smarter than you (and others) thought he was.  That's been proven.  I also told you from the beginning he was the only candidate who could take down Hillary (whom I still consider one of the worst and most corrupt human beings ever).  Right again.  

I'm telling you now that the man is running the office like no other before him.  He's demanding results and if you're not getting them -- if you're doing the usual political thing where you TALK incessantly about achievements but never actually do anything?  You're out.  He took his election as a mandate to actually do the things he said he was going to do.  

I'm asking you in all seriousness -- at what point will you put away your personal disdain for the man and consider what he's managed to achieve?  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 03:16:05 PM
So, if it's not Prowler or Kaos, who are you blaming for the downfall of the x?

I think I get your drift, Mister. I'm no moran.


Honestly, pal, I don't care how you feel about me. Just because I know more about politics and football than you is no reason to hate me. But whatever.

And, I'm sure that you also dislike me because I'm much funnier and better looking than you. And have a huge Johnson.

Get over yourself and get on with life. You are who you are. I can't help being who I am either. What am I supposed to do? Try to be less sexually attractive? Does this intimidate or simply interfere with your concentration?

No sense in denying. You're not the only one, I'm sure.

And another thing, buddy. I hope you got a free bowl of soup with that hat.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 04:30:56 PM
Your numbers re: rest of the country are a bit off.  The "echo chamber" is the lining up of a few of the posters here to simply backslap the newest bit of thinly veiled racism parading as a facebook meme or some idiotic appeal to those sentiments dressed up as "plain speakin" to counteract all that awful PC culture.
My biggest problem with the PC culture is that intent has no place in the equation.  All anyone has to do is claim to be offended.  I claim it, therefore I am.  Prime example recently was the Phoenix Suns' play by play guy saying that Russell Westbrook was "Out of his cotton-picking mind" after he'd just dished his 9th assist barely into the 2nd quarter.  In no way, shape or form was there any intent to be even remotely racist with that comment.  In fact, he was singing Westbrook's praises. 
The announcer was publically humiliated.  He had to meet with the team and apologize. He issued a public apology and was suspended.  The correct response by the Suns should have been, "Dude, don't say cotton-picking on the air.  Mmmk?" But that's where we are today.  Everyone walking timidly, trying not to step on a PC landmine.  You can have the purest of intentions, but if someone claims to have been offended by what you say or do, there will be consequences.  That was more my reference to Trump.  He doesn't care.  He's been called a racist more times than I can even begin to count.  He just throws a big PFFFFFFFFT at the notion and charges forward. 
     
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
What Barr said may have been racist but I’m blacker than that Stidham lady.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 04:51:15 PM
He just throws a big PFFFFFFFFT at the notion and charges forward.
    
For the record?  He stole that from me.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 04:55:12 PM
For the record?  He stole that from me.  
He used all CAPS!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 04:56:22 PM
He used all CAPS!
Pfffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt.....
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
My biggest problem with the PC culture is that intent has no place in the equation.  All anyone has to do is claim to be offended.  I claim it, therefore I am.  Prime example recently was the Phoenix Suns' play by play guy saying that Russell Westbrook was "Out of his cotton-picking mind" after he'd just dished his 9th assist barely into the 2nd quarter.  In no way, shape or form was there any intent to be even remotely racist with that comment.  In fact, he was singing Westbrook's praises.
The announcer was publically humiliated.  He had to meet with the team and apologize. He issued a public apology and was suspended.  The correct response by the Suns should have been, "Dude, don't say cotton-picking on the air.  Mmmk?" But that's where we are today.  Everyone walking timidly, trying not to step on a PC landmine.  You can have the purest of intentions, but if someone claims to have been offended by what you say or do, there will be consequences.  That was more my reference to Trump.  He doesn't care.  He's been called a racist more times than I can even begin to count.  He just throws a big PFFFFFFFFT at the notion and charges forward.
    
Just think if you got all bent out of shape every time someone made fun of your enormous forehead. Or, lack of testicles.
You’d stay pissed off.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 05:17:10 PM
Just think if you got all bent out of shape every time someone made fun of your enormous forehead. Or, lack of testicles.
You’d stay pissed off.
I can feel it down in my plums.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 05:24:08 PM
I can feel it down in my plums.
https://youtu.be/TVcniAcWg0Q (https://youtu.be/TVcniAcWg0Q)
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 05:42:46 PM
With a nice, blueish hue.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 06:00:02 PM
You've debased yourself and ruined numerous threads.  I've been a party to that by trying to either engage you or mock the appalling ignorance displayed.  

I always thought you were just acting on some level.  Thought you couldn't possibly be serious.  If you are just clowning, stop.  It ceased being funny a long time ago and has had a detrimental impact on this forum.  If you ARE serious in these outlandish ideas you espouse?  Please get help.  
I post the facts, I can't help you understand them, that's all on you and others here.

Facts from my previous post:
I didn't see this amount of crying and complaining when Fox News, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc were calling Obama the fucking Anti-Christ and people were displaying a hung effigy of Obama.

Also, Trump had political aspirations back in '99-'00. The affairs between he & Stormy happened afterwards and the affair between he & Melania happened after.

The National Enquirer is one of Trump's favorite papers as he and it's CEO are longtime friends. The tabloid has been accused of buying up stories about Trump and covering them up and operating on his personal behalf.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 06:29:44 PM
I post the facts, I can't help you understand them, that's all on you and others here.

Facts from my previous post:
I didn't see this amount of crying and complaining when Fox News, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc were calling Obama the fucking Anti-Christ and people were displaying a hung effigy of Obama.

Also, Trump had political aspirations back in '99-'00. The affairs between he & Stormy happened afterwards and the affair between he & Melania happened after.

The National Enquirer is one of Trump's favorite papers as he and it's CEO are longtime friends. The tabloid has been accused of buying up stories about Trump and covering them up and operating on his personal behalf.
I'm going to stoop this one last time.  
You didn't see any of that in regard to Obama and certainly not on the scale you're seeing it in regard to Trump.  The coverage of Obama's win in 2008 was almost messianic in its tone.    

Trump may have considered it, may have toyed with the Reform Party but he didn't make a serious political run until 2016.  Whatever he did -- even if he did have an affair -- doesn't matter.  People have affairs every day.  

The tabloid has "been accused."  By whom?  Oh, the media?  Pffffttttttttttfffftttttftftftftftftftffffftttffftttppp. Same fools who tout "scoops" about Trump and Russia?  Sad state of affairs when the Enquirer is more honest and honorable than CNN.  

You have no facts.  You have lunatic conspiracy theories that swirl around the fringes of rationality.  
There's no point in continuing this dialogue.  You're wrong, you've been proven wrong and you keep bellowing.  Move on.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
I post the facts, I can't help you understand them, that's all on you and others here.

Facts from my previous post:
I didn't see this amount of crying and complaining when Fox News, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc were calling Obama the fucking Anti-Christ and people were displaying a hung effigy of Obama.

Also, Trump had political aspirations back in '99-'00. The affairs between he & Stormy happened afterwards and the affair between he & Melania happened after.

The National Enquirer is one of Trump's favorite papers as he and it's CEO are longtime friends. The tabloid has been accused of buying up stories about Trump and covering them up and operating on his personal behalf.
Got any naked pictures of your wife?
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 07:31:23 PM
I'm going to stoop this one last time.  
You didn't see any of that in regard to Obama and certainly not on the scale you're seeing it in regard to Trump.  The coverage of Obama's win in 2008 was almost messianic in its tone.    

Trump may have considered it, may have toyed with the Reform Party but he didn't make a serious political run until 2016.  Whatever he did -- even if he did have an affair -- doesn't matter.  People have affairs every day.  

The tabloid has "been accused."  By whom?  Oh, the media?  Pffffttttttttttfffftttttftftftftftftftffffftttffftttppp. Same fools who tout "scoops" about Trump and Russia?  Sad state of affairs when the Enquirer is more honest and honorable than CNN.  

You have no facts.  You have lunatic conspiracy theories that swirl around the fringes of rationality.  
There's no point in continuing this dialogue.  You're wrong, you've been proven wrong and you keep bellowing.  Move on.  
That fact that you continue to move the goal post proves that not only am I correct, but you've failed to prove otherwise. Keep moving the goal posts around Kaos, it's what you're good at. The facts remain, just as I've posted them. Again, I can't help you understand them.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on May 29, 2018, 08:09:24 PM
It amazes me every day how two people can see a set of circumstances so differently.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 29, 2018, 09:16:46 PM
It amazes me every day how two people can see a set of circumstances so differently.
Same.  
Which is why I was hoping to draw wes back into legitimate discussion.  Prowler? Just don’t give a flip anymore.  For the longest I honestly thought he was just clowning.  That’s one of the reasons I kept it up with him.  I assumed he had to be joking so I threw bombs just to watch them explode. He just never came off the act.  So I give up there. 
I was legitimately curious as to how wes in particular could still view this (to me remarkable) presidency as a failure. He said the accomplishements don’t ring in his head.  I’d like to know why.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 29, 2018, 09:19:33 PM
It amazes me every day how two people can see a set of circumstances so differently.
I certainly see my dong as huge. Yuuuuuuuge, I say. 
Wes seems to think it’s not so much.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 29, 2018, 10:38:15 PM
It amazes me every day how two people can see a set of circumstances so differently.
He spews off the same talking points over and over and over....and pollutes the whole board purposely.

Investigation ongoing

Moving goal posts

Smh

He just posts facts he can't make you read them.

Various lines/info stolen from wacko sites

And on and on.....it's the robotic ideological method that has been the turn off here. There is no thought. There is only stirring up shit just to do it. A polluting of the board.

With K or wes or chad or even going back to chopper - there was some reasoning. Some thought.

That's the difference to me.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 11:12:42 PM
Getting away from the Prowler v. Board debate for a second.  If Trump put his knob in Stormy's shit hole, I really couldn't care less.  By the same token, when it was revealed that Bill was splooging on Monica's face and dress, I was like, "It's good to be the king."  So the Prez got some on the side.  Wow!!! What a surprise. Fist bump, Billy.  Don't leave me hanging.  So a mega-rich, Prez Wannabe, nailed a porn star.  You da' man.  None of that shit had/has any affect on me or on my thoughts as to how effectively either man could/can run this country.  All that shit is between you and your wife.  And BTW, if your wife looked like Hillary, would you not be looking to tap all available resources?

     
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 11:34:25 PM
He spews off the same talking points over and over and over....and pollutes the whole board purposely.

Investigation ongoing

Moving goal posts

Smh

He just posts facts he can't make you read them.

Various lines/info stolen from wacko sites

And on and on.....it's the robotic ideological method that has been the turn off here. There is no thought. There is only stirring up shit just to do it. A polluting of the board.

With K or wes or chad or even going back to chopper - there was some reasoning. Some thought.

That's the difference to me.
Investigation Ongoing:
Robert Mueller will be setting up a meeting with Attorney General Jeff Sessions to question him about the discussion that he and Trump had a few days after he recused himself from the investigation.
So, yeah...the investigation is ongoing. It will stay that way until Mueller has concluded.

Moving Goal Posts:
Kaos has always been known to move them. That's nothing new, though now it seems that his goal posts are on wheels.

Posting facts:
Just because you and others don't like some facts, doesn't make them any less true...sorry, that's not how it works.

Various stolen lines:
Trumpflake was likely posted somewhere else on the internet before I posted it here, "Stolen!!!!"
The "we've been here before with North Korea here's the timeline" was copied from an article off the internet "STOLEN!!!" of all the times NK said one thing, did another. Didn't change the fact that the NK timeline was true.

I mainly stick to facts, because I know that Trumpflakes, like yourself and others, can't stand them and through your responses I can read where y'all just want to yell "fake news" like good little ignorant sheep.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 11:41:00 PM
Getting away from the Prowler v. Board debate for a second.  If Trump put his knob in Stormy's shit hole, I really couldn't care less.  By the same token, when it was revealed that Bill was splooging on Monica's face and dress, I was like, "It's good to be the king."  So the Prez got some on the side.  Wow!!! What a surprise. Fist bump, Billy.  Don't leave me hanging.  So a mega-rich, Prez Wannabe, nailed a porn star.  You da' man.  None of that shit had/has any affect on me or on my thoughts as to how effectively either man could/can run this country.  All that shit is between you and your wife.  And BTW, if your wife looked like Hillary, would you not be looking to tap all available resources?

    
The constant denials to the affair(s) bothers me more than the actual affair. Man up, say you fucked her and paid her to not saying anything that would harm your precious beloved family (nevermind that all of the children's mothers were once cheated on, so they're likely used to all of hookers & hanger-ons).
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 29, 2018, 11:50:16 PM
The constant denials to the affair(s) bothers me more than the actual affair. Man up, say you fucked her and paid her to not saying anything that would harm your precious beloved family (nevermind that all of the children's mothers were once cheated on, so they're likely used to all of hookers & hanger-ons).
Man up!!! Say you fucked Monica and don't lie about it.  Damn son!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 29, 2018, 11:55:48 PM
Man up!!! Say you fucked Monica and don't lie about it.  Damn son!
Exactly.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 30, 2018, 12:16:37 AM
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.  You specifically referenced Trump while it was Bill's lying about it that was ultimately his downfall.  And BTW, they had actual evidence about Billy's dilly dilly's.  Sperm!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on May 30, 2018, 12:51:42 AM
Yeah, exactly.  You specifically referenced Trump while it was Bill's lying about it that was ultimately his downfall.  And BTW, they had actual evidence about Billy's dilly dilly's.  Sperm!
Was that Bill's downfall? He did finish out his second term. I know he'll be remembered for the "I did not have sexual relations" statement. It definitely gave him a black eye.
Btw, I was initially referring to both Trump and Clinton. Then I referred to Trump because he has yet to "man up" about it.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 30, 2018, 09:39:23 AM
I mainly stick to facts
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Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on May 30, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
Yeah, exactly.  You specifically referenced Trump while it was Bill's lying about it that was ultimately his downfall.  And BTW, they had actual evidence about Billy's dilly dilly's.  Sperm!
^^This man knows a LOT about sperm.

He has rinsed with it for years.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: AUJarhead on May 30, 2018, 09:48:38 AM
^^This man knows a LOT about sperm.

He has rinsed with it for years.
Snaggletiger Kardashian.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 30, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
How about this?

Instead of this same rinse and repeat cycle in the sga....why doesn't everyone just chill it for a min. A week. A month. On the pro trump vs anti trump arguments. Just back off the political rants for now....because.....

There are a billion other worthwhile things to discuss at the moment.

Stock Market - financials not politics.

MLB - braves kickin ass. Sorry jarhead.

NCAA baseball tourney - our tigers are in it.

Auburn round ball - most of our stars just withdrew from the NBA draft to come back. The only one who didn't is xfering due to his mothers health. 

Triple crown - justify is going for all the marbles Saturday at the Belmont

Media days and summer practice - right around the corner

Summer - it's vacation and BBQ season. Whatcha got.

Movies - summer blockbusters a-comin'

Music - summer concert season.

NBA finals  - fuk Lebron

Seriously guys. Lot funner things to discuss....
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 30, 2018, 10:34:47 AM
How about this?

Instead of this same rinse and repeat cycle in the sga....why doesn't everyone just chill it for a min. A week. A month. On the pro trump vs anti trump arguments. Just back off the political rants for now....because.....

There are a billion other worthwhile things to discuss at the moment.

Stock Market - financials not politics.

MLB - braves kickin ass. Sorry jarhead.

NCAA baseball tourney - our tigers are in it.

Auburn round ball - most of our stars just withdrew from the NBA draft to come back. The only one who didn't is xfering due to his mothers health.

Triple crown - justify is going for all the marbles Saturday at the Belmont

Media days and summer practice - right around the corner

Summer - it's vacation and BBQ season. Whatcha got.

Movies - summer blockbusters a-comin'

Music - summer concert season.

NBA finals  - fuk Lebron

Seriously guys. Lot funner things to discuss....
But...but...but...the investigation is ongoing.  smh
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on May 30, 2018, 10:37:08 AM
But...but...but...the investigation is ongoing.  smh
I can't find the goalposts.  Did he move them?  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 30, 2018, 10:37:42 AM
I have no problem discussing all those things, especially how bad the Cubs and Cards cheat.  And how dirty a player Rizzo is.  I swear, we've gone full on pussy mode in sports.  Don't touch anyone in football and definitely don't try and break up a double play with a clean slide.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: AUJarhead on May 30, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
I have no problem discussing all those things, especially how bad the Cubs and Cards cheat.  And how dirty a player Rizzo is.  I swear, we've gone full on pussy mode in sports.  Don't touch anyone in football and definitely don't try and break up a double play with a clean slide.
I think this should be in the Auburn Baseball thread, where I like to complain about all things Cardinals related.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 30, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
I think this should be in the Auburn Baseball thread, where I like to complain about all things Cardinals related.
Most years, no one would notice.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 30, 2018, 11:06:39 AM
I have no problem discussing all those things, especially how bad the Cubs and Cards cheat.  And how dirty a player Rizzo is.  I swear, we've gone full on pussy mode in sports.  Don't touch anyone in football and definitely don't try and break up a double play with a clean slide.
It's bitch cuttin' time!  Anthony Rizzo is a saint!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: chinook on May 30, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
How about this?

Instead of this same rinse and repeat cycle in the sga....why doesn't everyone just chill it for a min. A week. A month. On the pro trump vs anti trump arguments. Just back off the political rants for now....because.....

There are a billion other worthwhile things to discuss at the moment.

Stock Market - financials not politics.

MLB - braves kickin ass. Sorry jarhead.

NCAA baseball tourney - our tigers are in it.

Auburn round ball - most of our stars just withdrew from the NBA draft to come back. The only one who didn't is xfering due to his mothers health.

Triple crown - justify is going for all the marbles Saturday at the Belmont

Media days and summer practice - right around the corner

Summer - it's vacation and BBQ season. Whatcha got.

Movies - summer blockbusters a-comin'

Music - summer concert season.

NBA finals  - fuk Lebron

Seriously guys. Lot funner things to discuss....
the X is your Oyster.  Go for it.  
Sow that seed and watch it sprout and blossom.
Let the boys swim...wait, sorry you aren't Jumbo.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 30, 2018, 01:32:36 PM
the X is your Oyster.  Go for it.  
Sow that seed and watch it sprout and blossom.
Let the boys swim...wait, sorry you aren't Jumbo.
I'm not that cool. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 30, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
I'm not that cool.
Nobody is
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on May 30, 2018, 02:27:13 PM
:civic:
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: CCTAU on May 30, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
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I just wanted to reiterate!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: wesfau2 on May 30, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
the X is your Oyster.  Go for it.  
Sow that seed and watch it sprout and blossom.
Let the boys swim...wait, sorry you aren't Jumbo.
I believe our hippy friend is urging you to be the change you want to see in the world.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: GH2001 on May 30, 2018, 04:24:40 PM
I believe our hippy friend is urging you to be the change you want to see in the world.
I shall build a clean pool for all to swim in. No more muddy lake. 
But serious - will do in time. Unfortunately been in meetings most of day. 
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on June 20, 2018, 09:51:40 PM
You have no facts.  You have lunatic conspiracy theories that swirl around the fringes of rationality. 
There's no point in continuing this dialogue.  You're wrong, you've been proven wrong and you keep bellowing.  Move on. 
Btw, the National Enquirer story was about another affair that Trump had.

But, they're now being investigated.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/publisher-of-national-enquirer-subpoenaed-in-michael-cohen-probe-1529529151


So...you're wrong.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on June 21, 2018, 01:10:52 AM
You've embarrassed yourself, your parents and the remainder of your immediate family.  

Must you befoul your entire family tree?
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 21, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
Getting away from the Prowler v. Board debate for a second.  If Trump put his knob in Stormy's shit hole, I really couldn't care less.  By the same token, when it was revealed that Bill was splooging on Monica's face and dress, I was like, "It's good to be the king."  So the Prez got some on the side.  Wow!!! What a surprise. Fist bump, Billy.  Don't leave me hanging.  So a mega-rich, Prez Wannabe, nailed a porn star.  You da' man.  None of that shit had/has any affect on me or on my thoughts as to how effectively either man could/can run this country.  All that shit is between you and your wife.  And BTW, if your wife looked like Hillary, would you not be looking to tap all available resources?

   
I don’t know how but I guess it’s because of this new internet.  I totally missed that you put your knob in Token’s shithole.

Congrats to both of you.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on August 24, 2018, 11:55:09 PM
You've embarrassed yourself, your parents and the remainder of your immediate family. 

Must you befoul your entire family tree?
Mueller is now using Pecker to probe Trump.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Kaos on August 25, 2018, 12:03:37 AM
Mueller is now using Pecker to probe Trump.
And you're still the dumbest person on the face of the earth.  
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 25, 2018, 12:18:36 AM
Mueller is now using Pecker to probe Trump.
I’ll bet this makes you wish you were Trump, really bad.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 25, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Mueller is now using Pecker to probe Trump.
pathetic.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on August 25, 2018, 01:15:28 AM
Trump is pathetic.
I fixed your post.
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: CCTAU on August 25, 2018, 01:23:02 AM
You're the type of guy that shows up to a potluck with nothing and then wants to say the blessing.
You bring nothing to the table. Takers never do!
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: The Prowler on August 25, 2018, 05:09:34 AM
You're the type of guy that shows up to a potluck with nothing and then wants to say the blessing.
You bring nothing to the table. Takers never do!
I don't say the blessing.

I show up to potlucks with a baggie full of "potluck".
Title: Re: What’s the problem, really?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 25, 2018, 06:45:59 PM
I don't say the blessing.

I show up to potlucks with a baggie full of "potluck".