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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on June 10, 2010, 08:40:34 AM
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Now that USC is finally going to get bent over and raped of their
dignity national title, do you want it?
I don't.
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The NCAA can shove that crystal egg up their ass sideways.
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I guess this depends on WHAT Championship.
BCS? No. We didn't play in the game, and I don't want that stigma attached to it.
AP? Absolutely. I'd take that because of two things.
1. We DIDN'T lose. To ANYONE. We did it in what is (now anyway) regarded as the most powerful football conference.
2. With no BCS Champion that year, an AP Championship would be a title given to us like the old days before the BCS.
Just my opinion...
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If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it. I don't see any scenario in which AU gets it, because they didn't even play in the game.
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If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it. I don't see any scenario in which AU gets it, because they didn't even play in the game.
I agree with you on the BCS title. If they award it to anyone, it would be OU. But the AP is a different story, if USC is no longer #1, that would bump us up from #2. The year before, the AP had already voted against the BCS, I don't see why this would be any different (except I don't think they will revote).
And I agree with Chopper. The BCS can go fuck itself, but I'd happily take the AP title.
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If we claimed it we would be just like the bammers, we will have one in 5 years anyways so it doesnt matter
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I don't.
This...and...
The NCAA can shove that crystal egg up their ass sideways.
This, except I don't think the NCAA is involved with the BCS. Isn't that why the NCAA claims that they don't award a DI football championship?
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I'd take the AP in a minute.
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I guess this depends on WHAT Championship.
BCS? No. We didn't play in the game, and I don't want that stigma attached to it.
AP? Absolutely. I'd take that because of two things.
1. We DIDN'T lose. To ANYONE. We did it in what is (now anyway) regarded as the most powerful football conference.
2. With no BCS Champion that year, an AP Championship would be a title given to us like the old days before the BCS.
Just my opinion...
^^^This
Good as any laundromat championship.
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If an article linked in another thread is correct, and USC forfeits the wins, it would be awarded to Oklahoma. If the wins are vacated, then nobody gets it.
Oh not true.
I'm sure Bama would swoop in and claim #14.
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I'd take the AP in a minute.
This would be at least as legit as bammer's 1973 and 1978 MNCs where they claimed split polls and went head to head with the team that they split the polls with and lost. Claimed the UPI NC in 1973 prior to the bowl, then lost to the AP Champion ND in the Sugar Bowl. Claimed the 1978 Coaches Poll after losing early at home to USC, who eventually claimed the UPI NC.
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As it turns out, it was just a misunderstanding. NCAA levies some small penalties and USC turns the page.
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This...and...
This, except I don't think the NCAA is involved with the BCS. Isn't that why the NCAA claims that they don't award a DI football championship?
You are correct but it was a colorful thought.
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I don't.
This
Ditto.
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Oh not true.
I'm sure Bama would swoop in and claim #14.
If the game is a forfeit, I guarantee you that Oklahoma would be awarded the win, thus would be the champion. That's how a forfeit works. The other team gets to claim a win. If it is vacated, it's like the game never happened......no team wins, no team loses.
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If the game is a forfeit, I guarantee you that Oklahoma would be awarded the win, thus would be the champion. That's how a forfeit works. The other team gets to claim a win. If it is vacated, it's like the game never happened......no team wins, no team loses.
6 of one, half dozen of the other. Doesn't matter, we don't get to claim a BCS title, and I wouldn't want it. IF the AP wanted to redo their poll retroactively, then let them. Fact is, neither will happen. USC will simply have an * next to their BCS title.
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This would be at least as legit as bammer's 1973 and 1978 MNCs where they claimed split polls and went head to head with the team that they split the polls with and lost. Claimed the UPI NC in 1973 prior to the bowl, then lost to the AP Champion ND in the Sugar Bowl. Claimed the 1978 Coaches Poll after losing early at home to USC, who eventually claimed the UPI NC.
I certainly don't want to resort to the sort of title-grubbing that defines our mouth-breathing neighbors to the west.
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I certainly don't want to resort to the sort of title-grubbing that defines our mouth-breathing neighbors to the west.
Not suggesting we do. I personally don't think AU folks would make any big deal about it if the AP were to "award" us the 2004 NC. I wouldn't...I wouldn't by any NC gear, or go to any parade. We won't be given the BCS Title, so the point is pretty much moot. It's why I, in my smart assed way said "as legit as...". It's legit shit like rubber doggy doo is legit shit. But when the mullet headed morons want to come around running their cock holsters about such NCs as 1941, '73, '78, we can say we have one just like those too.
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But when the mullet headed morons want to come around running their cock holsters about such NCs as 1941, '73, '78, we can say we have one just like those too.
To each his own, but I'd rather just tell 'em that theirs are bullshit.
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To each his own, but I'd rather just tell 'em that theirs are bullshit.
My way was just a more verbose way of saying that.
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My $0.02?
I think claiming the AP under circumstances such as this, when you were #2 and #1 just forfeited their season, and you were the only team from a major conference left undefeated, is a world apart from claiming the NC in a year when you were 20th in the polls, didn't win the SEC West and lost your bowl game.
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My $0.02?
I think claiming the AP under circumstances such as this, when you were #2 and #1 just forfeited their season, and you were the only team from a major conference left undefeated, is a world apart from claiming the NC in a year when you were 20th in the polls, didn't win the SEC West and lost your bowl game.
Boom goes the dynamite.
+ 1 to the Chizad.
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I love what's happening here. Auburn fans are saying "NO, We in NO WAY want to claim the 2004 National Championship. Nope, NO WAY. They can shove that BCS trophy. But... well, maybe we can just claim it a little bit." You are all hilarious and as predictable as masturbating zoo monkeys. They can shove that crystal ball.... I'd take the AP in a heart beat. Hilarious.
Here's some free advice and you should listen to it. Make up your phuking mind. You don't get to say you don't consider yourself the 2004 NC while in the same breath say you'd gladly take a lesser poll considering you the 2004 champs. Pick a phuking side. Either start referring to your 2004 team as the National Champions for now on, regardless of what ends up happening with the BCS or AP, or refrain from wanting only one of the two to consider you the champs. You may take a beating from Bama fans for a couple years if you claim it but it doesn't matter, most of the country thinks Auburn was the 2nd best team that year anyway, and that's including Bama fans. Truth be told if you phuks hadn't given Bama so much poop for the last 30 years about this very thing than this wouldn't even be an issue. This is about your pride and that's all its about.
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This is about your pride and that's all its about.
Um, considering your run of fucking dumbass posts here, the fact that you make a habit of it with no intention of stopping, you talkng about anybody else's pride is fucking laughable.
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I love what's happening here. Auburn fans are saying "NO, We in NO WAY want to claim the 2004 National Championship. Nope, NO WAY. They can shove that BCS trophy. But... well, maybe we can just claim it a little bit." You are all hilarious and as predictable as masturbating zoo monkeys. They can shove that crystal ball.... I'd take the AP in a heart beat. Hilarious.
Here's some free advice and you should listen to it. Make up your phuking mind. You don't get to say you don't consider yourself the 2004 NC while in the same breath say you'd gladly take a lesser poll considering you the 2004 champs. Pick a phuking side. Either start referring to your 2004 team as the National Champions for now on, regardless of what ends up happening with the BCS or AP, or refrain from wanting only one of the two to consider you the champs. You may take a beating from Bama fans for a couple years if you claim it but it doesn't matter, most of the country thinks Auburn was the 2nd best team that year anyway, and that's including Bama fans. Truth be told if you phuks hadn't given Bama so much poop for the last 30 years about this very thing than this wouldn't even be an issue. This is about your pride and that's all its about.
"Lesser" to who? USC still claims the AP, the year Saybun won the BCS in 2003. It's now their only legitimate championship.
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Here's some free advice and you should listen to it. Make up your phuking mind. You don't get to say you don't consider yourself the 2004 NC while in the same breath say you'd gladly take a lesser poll considering you the 2004 champs. Pick a phuking side. Either start referring to your 2004 team as the National Champions for now on, regardless of what ends up happening with the BCS or AP, or refrain from wanting only one of the two to consider you the champs. You may take a beating from Bama fans for a couple years if you claim it but it doesn't matter, most of the country thinks Auburn was the 2nd best team that year anyway, and that's including Bama fans. Truth be told if you phuks hadn't given Bama so much poop for the last 30 years about this very thing than this wouldn't even be an issue. This is about your pride and that's all its about.
Fuck being the second best team that year. I will never admit to anyone that Auburn would have lost a game no matter what collegiate team was put in front of them...
However, I agree with the rest of your post...
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"Lesser" to who?
In no way, on no planet, is the AP poll not a lesser poll than the BCS poll. The fact that you picked this out of that whole post clearly shows you're grasping at straws. Just pick one, Chizad. Claim it or don't.
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In no way, on no planet, is the AP poll not a lesser poll than the BCS poll. The fact that you picked this out of that whole post clearly shows you're grasping at straws. Just pick one, Chizad. Claim it or don't.
Winning the AP, which is not necessarily proven "on the field", when we finished #2, and #1 just forfeited their season, makes complete sense.
Claiming the BCS, when we didn't win the BCS game, or for that matter even get to play in it, doesn't make sense. It would be bammerish to do so, which explains why you don't see a difference.
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Winning the AP, which is not necessarily proven "on the field", when we finished #2, and #1 just forfeited their season, makes complete sense.
Claiming the BCS, when we didn't win the BCS game, or for that matter even get to play in it, doesn't make sense. It would be bammerish to do so, which explains why you don't see a difference.
Pick one or the other, chizad. Are you the National Champs or aren't you?
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Pick one or the other, chizad. Are you the National Champs or aren't you?
Was USC the national champs in 2003?
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Pick one or the other, chizad. Are you the National Champs or aren't you?
Ok, well is USC the NC from 2003? or arent they?
Different polls Nimrod. Chad is right. The AP is decided by a vote. The BCS is decided on the field. He makes perfect sense.
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Ok, well is USC the NC from 2003? or arent they?
Different polls Nimrod. Chad is right. The AP is decided by a vote. The BCS is decided on the field. He makes perfect sense.
The answer to both of you is no. Now for my question to both of you. Are you or aren't you National Champions?
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Was USC the national champs in 2003?
http://www.usctrojans.com/ot/usc-2003-national-champs.html (http://www.usctrojans.com/ot/usc-2003-national-champs.html)
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The answer to both of you is no. Now for my question to both of you. Are you or aren't you National Champions?
Then to you, no.
To the rest of the college football world, who recognizes the AP as a legitimate poll, yes.
Try explaining your theory to the Gameday crew back in 2004 & 2005, when they were constantly described as the greatest college football dynasty of all time.
Turns out they have zero national championships to show for it.
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The answer to both of you is no. Now for my question to both of you. Are you or aren't you National Champions?
Who won the national championship in '73 and '78?
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Was USC the national champs in 2003?
LSU.
The final BCS rankings come out before the NC game. This decides who goes to the NC game. It goes without saying that this game decides the champion. The way this works is the BCS game decides the champion, NOT the AP AFTER the game is played. Oklahoma was #1, and LSU was #2. LSU beat #1, thus winning the BCS National Championship. After that championship game, nothing matters. BCS doesn't rank shit after that, because it has already given you the two best teams, and is predetermined that the winner will be considered the best team, thus, the champion. And when it comes to championships, in the current setup, what BCS says goes.
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Now my .02
I don't want to claim a NC by forfeit or wear the t-shirt or march in a parade. I prefer to win it on the field and have the orange and blue confetti raining down. No questions. Now having said that, I'm older than many of you and grew up with the polls, which many times crowned different National Champions in the same year. The BCS is a relatively new concept in college football and both the polls and the BCS are flawed to hell and back. I've witnessed numerous injustices from 83' and Auburn getting bent over to 85' and BYU beating a 6-5 Meechegan team for the NC to 04' with Auburn going undefeated and having a much stronger SOS than the 2 that played for it. Whatever.
If the AP decides to re-vote and name AU #1, so be it. It'd be nice but still a hollow victory.
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I would officially like to change my answer from "No, Oklahoma......" to "I don't really give a fuck".
Thanks.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5272615 (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5272615)
The NCAA handed the University of Southern California a two-year postseason football ban and vacated wins in Reggie Bush's final season, among other penalties, for violations in its football, men's basketball and women's tennis programs on Thursday.
The university was put on four years' probation, while the football program was hit with a two-year postseason ban and the men's basketball team was banned for one year from the postseason, which had already been self-imposed by the school.
USC was hit with scholarship reductions in football and basketball and recruiting restrictions for the men's basketball team.
The school was fined $5,000 and forfeits its $206,200 it earned from the 2008 men's basketball tournament.
In addition the university must vacate some regular-season and postseason wins in all three involved sports.
The NCAA said its findings included "a lack of institutional control, impermissible inducements, extra benefits, exceeding coach staff limits, and unethical conduct by an assistant football coach."
The violations, which span almost four years, primarily involved "agent and amateurism issues for a former football student-athlete and a former men's basketball studen-athlete," the NCAA wrote in its report.
Last year, the NCAA bundled its Bush investigation with its look into the men's basketball program. USC imposed its own sanctions on the basketball program four months ago over its recruitment of former player O.J. Mayo by former coach Tim Floyd. Floyd was accused of giving cash to a middleman who helped steer Mayo to USC.
In their football investigation, the NCAA and investigators from the Pac-10 Conference tried to determine whether Bush and his parents took improper benefits, including an alleged rent-free residence provided by a sports marketer. Bush has not met with NCAA and Pac-10 investigators and has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.
"I have a great love for the University of Southern California and I very much regret the turn that this matter has taken, not only for USC, but for the fans and players," Bush said in a statement.
"I am disappointed by [Thursday's] decision and disagree with the NCAA's findings. If the University decides to appeal, I will continue to cooperate with the NCAA and USC, as I did during the investigation. In the meantime, I will continue to focus on making a positive impact for the University and for the community where I live," Bush said.
The women's tennis violation involved a former student athlete using an athletics department long-distance access call to make 123 unauthorized calls to her family. The total value of the calls was more than $7,000, the NCAA said.
The football team must vacate all wins in which Bush played while ineligible, starting in December 2004. The NCAA accepted USC's self-imposed penalty of vacating all wins in which Mayo competed during the 2007-08 season.
The women's tennis program must vacate all wins in which the ineligible player competed between November 2006 and May 2009 -- a penalty which was self-imposed by USC.
USC already admitted wrongdoing with the basketball program and sanctioned itself, including a ban on postseason participation, a reduction of scholarships and vacating all of its wins from 2007-08.
USC chose to contest the allegation against the football program.
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LSU.
The final BCS rankings come out before the NC game. This decides who goes to the NC game. It goes without saying that this game decides the champion. The way this works is the BCS game decides the champion, NOT the AP AFTER the game is played. Oklahoma was #1, and LSU was #2. LSU beat #1, thus winning the BCS National Championship. After that championship game, nothing matters. BCS doesn't rank shit after that, because it has already given you the two best teams, and is predetermined that the winner will be considered the best team, thus, the champion. And when it comes to championships, in the current setup, what BCS says goes.
BCS is one poll...they decide theirs, the AP decides theirs. Technically it's the BCS Championship, not the BCS National Championship. BCS is a poll, period, then end.
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http://www.usctrojans.com/ot/usc-2003-national-champs.html (http://www.usctrojans.com/ot/usc-2003-national-champs.html)
Notice the trophy Pete Carroll is holding in that picture, or more importantly which one he's not holding. I can go down to a little league trophy shop here in town and get a real nice one for under $10 bucks. Am I a National Champion now?
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LSU.
The final BCS rankings come out before the NC game. This decides who goes to the NC game. It goes without saying that this game decides the champion. The way this works is the BCS game decides the champion, NOT the AP AFTER the game is played. Oklahoma was #1, and LSU was #2. LSU beat #1, thus winning the BCS National Championship. After that championship game, nothing matters. BCS doesn't rank shit after that, because it has already given you the two best teams, and is predetermined that the winner will be considered the best team, thus, the champion. And when it comes to championships, in the current setup, what BCS says goes.
However, in both the AP & Coach's poll, USC was #1, LSU#2, and Oklahoma #3.
I know in a bammer's mind Saban won 2003 outright. You got the Men In Black to wipe your memory of any controversy surrounding that seasons national championship, and any talks from ESPN about Three-peats. :taunt:
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Notice the trophy Pete Carroll is holding in that picture, or more importantly which one he's not holding. I can go down to a little league trophy shop here in town and get a real nice one for under $10 bucks. Am I a National Champion now?
If you put "Dumbfuck National Champtionship" on it, yes.
Other than that, read the writing on the T-shirts, and everything else. The AP poll NC is as valid today, and then as it was when bammer claimed a split poll championship in the days when there was not crystal football trophy.
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BCS is one poll...they decide theirs, the AP decides theirs. Technically it's the BCS Championship, not the BCS National Championship. BCS is a poll, period, then end.
This is the single greatest post I've ever read. Absolute win. Let the record show that today is the day when JR4AU took up the argument for Alabama claiming 13 National Championships. Could this day get any better?
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The irony here is almost surreal. The fact that we're hearing about how the AP isn't a legitimate poll, from RWS & Birmingham, two guys who will argue til they're blue in the face about how each and every one of the "13" MNC's from uat are completely legitimate, is incomprehensible.
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If you put "Dumbfuck National Champtionship" on it, yes.
Other than that, read the writing on the T-shirts, and everything else. The AP poll NC is as valid today, and then as it was when bammer claimed a split poll championship in the days when there was not crystal football trophy.
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The irony here is almost surreal. The fact that we're hearing about how the AP isn't a legitimate poll, from RWS & Birmingham, two guys who will argue til their blue in the face about how each and every one of the "13" MNC's from uat are completely legitimate, is incomprehensible.
Find how many times I've claimed 13. Find how many times I've said I don't give a shit about the past championships. Tell me which number is greater.
Aaaaaand, go!
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This is the single greatest post I've ever read. Absolute win. Let the record show that today is the day when JR4AU took up the argument for Alabama claiming 13 National Championships. Could this day get any better?
You're living the internet troll life aren't you? Stupid fuck.
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The answer to both of you is no. Now for my question to both of you. Are you or aren't you National Champions?
If the AP revotes us as their #1 team, then yes.
If not, then no.
Its that simple.
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So you're not claiming the '78 NC when bammer got the AP #1 vote after having lost to USC?
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So you're not claiming the '78 NC when bammer got the AP #1 vote after having lost to USC?
What poll had more authority than the AP in 1978?
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The irony here is almost surreal. The fact that we're hearing about how the AP isn't a legitimate poll, from RWS & Birmingham, two guys who will argue til they're blue in the face about how each and every one of the "13" MNC's from uat are completely legitimate, is incomprehensible.
Good luck proving either RWS or I have made this argument. Both of us have made it clear what our opinion of Bama's National Championships are. You can now continue throwing shit against the way, none has stuck yet.
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What poll had more authority than the AP in 1978?
You are an ardtard. The BCS is not recognized by the NCAA...fucking troll.
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From Kaos to "the goons pissing on each other's legs in the 'would you claim 2004' thread":
"The members of the 2004 team already have rings that say National Champions. That's all that needs to be said about that."
For reals.
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You are an ardtard. The BCS is not recognized by the NCAA...fucking troll.
Nobody is claiming the NCAA declares champions but in no way does that make the BCS not the authority. Why can't you guys answer the simple question?
Are you National Champions? If you were, what reason is there to avoid the question? So, how about it? National Champs?
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From Kaos to "the goons pissing on each other's legs in the 'would you claim 2004' thread":
"The members of the 2004 team already have rings that say National Champions. That's all that needs to be said about that."
For reals.
So the team has claimed it all along while the fans disagreed? Something seems amiss.
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I think you guys just need a little encouragement... I'll be back...
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What poll had more authority than the AP in 1978?
Playing both sides of it now huh? You're a pathetic retard.
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Holy shit I think I see some toilet paper in those trees. At least one of you Auburn fans has the nuts to claim it. Come on, go help him roll that thing.
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I think you guys just need a little encouragement... I'll be back...
Birmingham...
(http://knowyourmeme.com/i/31952/original/126167545854.jpg)
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Yep, there's definitely some toilet paper in those trees.
(http://www.auburnalabama.org/cams/Toomers/readImage.asp?dummy=1276198613865)
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Bamaham I have had a pretty boring day but you have kept it interesting by being an idiot all day, thank ya :thumsup:
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Bamaham I have had a pretty boring day but you have kept it interesting by being an idiot all day, thank ya :thumsup:
Does Jumbo know your dog is a virgin?
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God will strike me down...I know this...but I lol'd.
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Does Jumbo know your dog is a virgin?
Fisting coming his way.....
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Nobody is claiming the NCAA declares champions but in no way does that make the BCS not the authority. Why can't you guys answer the simple question?
Are you National Champions? If you were, what reason is there to avoid the question? So, how about it? National Champs?
Let me help you there waterhead.
“We’ll claim a title if a Laundromat in Tuscaloosa says we’re No. 1.” - Bear Bryant
Now, following Sidewalk Alumni logic such as yours...
"Come, follow me," JesusBear Bryant said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
So, if we claim it, does that mean we are following the one who died for our hounds tooth?
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AWK, is Auburn the National Champions?
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This thread is 5 pages deep and in needs of a couple indisputable facts. Let's hear your answers to this.
1) The AP has already announced that, regardless of what the NCAA finds, they're not changing their champion.
2) The BCS has Oklahoma in 2nd place and said they'll wait until after the NCAA ruling before they decide to make a decision on if USC keeps it.
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This thread is 5 pages deep and in needs of a couple indisputable facts. Let's hear your answers to this.
1) The AP has already announced that, regardless of what the NCAA finds, they're not changing their champion.
2) The BCS has Oklahoma in 2nd place and said they'll wait until after the NCAA ruling before they decide to make a decision on if USC keeps it.
Uh....facts don't require answers?
and...
I'm Ron Burgundy?
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AWK, is Auburn the National Champions?
We gonna rock down to electric avenue, and let me take it higher.
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We gonna rock down to electric avenue, and let me take it higher.
That's what I like to hear. Claim that bitch while not giving a single mother fuck what anyone says about it!
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1) The AP has already announced that, regardless of what the NCAA finds, they're not changing their champion.
Where is this? Haven't seen it yet. Not calling you out, or saying you're wrong, but where did you find this statement?
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AP
http://bit.ly/afjaMK (http://bit.ly/afjaMK)
AP sports editor Terry Taylor told USA TODAY in an email that Southern Cal would remain as national champion for 2004.
BCS
http://bit.ly/ciVt2E (http://bit.ly/ciVt2E)
We take the integrity of NCAA rules seriously. As a procedural matter, the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee (POC) must meet to formally consider vacating USC's championship title and the game records. If the POC takes such action, there would be no BCS champion for the 2004-05 season.
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That's why I say if you're gonna claim it, start doing it, and don't base it on anything either of these two bowls have to say about it. I obviously realize none of you care what I think but I believe Auburn to be the best collegiate football team in 2004 and because of that were the 2004 National Champions. I support that opinion because of what they did on the field and what I believe they would've done had they been given the opportunity to. No collegiate team proved otherwise.
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The answer to both of you is no. Now for my question to both of you. Are you or aren't you National Champions?
Yes....YES!!! NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!! BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOM MUTHA FUCKA....YEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes....YES!!! NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!!!! BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOM MUTHA phukA....YEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
The Prowler with his best Howard Dean response.
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That's why I say if you're gonna claim it, start doing it, and don't base it on anything either of these two bowls have to say about it. I obviously realize none of you care what I think but I believe Auburn to be the best collegiate football team in 2004 and because of that were the 2004 National Champions. I support that opinion because of what they did on the field and what I believe they would've done had they been given the opportunity to. No collegiate team proved otherwise.
Even in your most anal responses, this I actually believe. The problem I have with claiming it is not be able to play for it and yes that is a damn shame. The 04 team we had was the shiznit and it still makes me mad.
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Even in your most anal responses, this I actually believe. The problem I have with claiming it is not be able to play for it and yes that is a damn shame. The 04 team we had was the shiznit and it still makes me mad.
Well, until the BCS came into being, this is how it was crowned every year - with a vote after bowl season. Even before that, it was crowned before bowl season. So I dont feel too bad. To me we won it on the field all year long. Look at who Oklahoma played versus us. And even though the BCSCG doesnt count now - it does show you that Oklahoma was not even in the same league as USC - cheaters or not. USC could have made that game much worse had they wanted to.
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The point is moot.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html)
AP will not revote on 2004 national title in wake of USC penalties
Published: Friday, June 11, 2010, 8:54 AM
Kevin Scarbinsky -- The Birmingham News Kevin Scarbinsky -- The Birmingham News
The NCAA Infractions Committee said USC used an ineligible player in Reggie Bush to beat Oklahoma in the 2005 Orange Bowl and win the 2004 national championship.
The Associated Press said it will not vacate USC's 2004 title and will not revote in light of the NCAA's decision.
AP sports editor Terry Taylor told USA TODAY in an email that Southern Cal would remain as national champion for 2004.
"The 2004 poll stands,'' Taylor wrote. "The poll is intended to measure on-field performance. If teams are allowed to play, they're allowed to be ranked, and USC certainly played in 2004.
"Plus, it would be impractical to revote. It's been six years, memories have faded and the poll board from that year is no longer intact.''
Memories have faded? Tell that to Tommy Tuberville. Or any football fan in the South.
Impractical to revote? The AP had no problem staging a do-over in voting for last year's NFL defensive rookie of the year after a positive drug test turned up on winner Brian Cushing. He kept his award after the revote.
So, in the AP's eyes, semi-pro USC will stay No. 1 for the 2004 season.
Auburn will remain No. 2.
Justice, at least in this case, will continue to be blind.
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The point is moot.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html)
phuking hypocrites is what they are then....Funny, you can revote on the defensive player of the year award because a player that won it MIGHT not have been eligible, but.............hmmmmmmm. Effing hypocrisy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5176949 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5176949)
The AP is also sending a message that they wont penalize you if you cheat. If you cheat and win the NC and get caught, you still get to keep it. Fucking ridiculous.
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The point is moot.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html (http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/06/ap_will_not_re-vote_on_2004_na.html)
wtf is all I can say about that.....and :puke: