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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: wesfau2 on March 17, 2010, 12:59:52 PM
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I searched, but apparently we've never discussed this bit of awesome.
Season 3 starts Sunday.
To recap: high school chemistry teacher is diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. His wife is pregnant and they have a teenaged son with a disability (I can't recall which one...he's functional but has some sort of motor skills issues). He has no money to bequeath to them and panics about their futures. So....he starts making meth with the help of a former student. Oh...his brother-in-law is a DEA agent. Hijinx ensue.
Watch this show. AMC Sunday night.
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I watched about 6 episodes and it was entertaining and the characters were interesting and easy to follow. Had to leave town though so I lost track of the storyline. One of the better shows on though I think.
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By far the best show on TV right now.
Of course, my status as a teacher unhappy with his job helps the enjoyment.
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I always wondered why the show didn't lead to some public outrage due to the content which made it even more fun to watch.
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I always wondered why the show didn't lead to some public outrage due to the content which made it even more fun to watch.
Because right when people decide they need to find their soap box, they think, "Wow, I have to see what's going to happen next. I can bitch about this later."
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So....
The killer twins are the Tuco vengeance squad, yes?
What do we think Gus will do now that Walt is trying to back out of the biz?
Does Walt finally fill Skyler in?
Should be a great season.
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So....
The killer twins are the Tuco vengeance squad, yes?
What do we think Gus will do now that Walt is trying to back out of the biz?
Does Walt finally fill Skyler in?
Should be a great season.
I don't know if they're Tuco's guys. I'd say they're part of the Mexican drug cartel that's pissed off about Walt's success. They alluded to this in the 2nd season with the Mexican band's song and then the guy who had his head stuffed with explosives and placed on top of a turtle.
I think the 3 million dollar offer keeps Walt in. It's a bit of a easy fix for the writers, but because I love the show, I'll get sucked right in.
I think he does, and I think she ends up killed. This show is all about making you say and feel "WHAT THE FUCK," and kill off a family member is bound to happen.
With that said, I can't wait for tonight.
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Tonight did not disappoint.
What a great show.
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So....
The killer twins are the Tuco vengeance squad, yes?
Yes, they are. Don Salamanco is pissed off.
What do we think Gus will do now that Walt is trying to back out of the biz?
Apparently he will protect Walt until such time as he is finished with the deal. Interesting bedfellows being made here.
Does Walt finally fill Skyler in?
Hmmm...will she accept the money? Walt made a strong argument...if you can overlook the "things" he did to get the money.
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Yes, they are. Don Salamanco is pissed off.
Apparently he will protect Walt until such time as he is finished with the deal. Interesting bedfellows being made here.
Hmmm...will she accept the money? Walt made a strong argument...if you can overlook the "things" he did to get the money.
I think Skyler needs to jump off a bridge. (spoiler) Fucking her boss and rubbing it in Walt's face? I predict an ending involving Walt Jr, Holly, and Walt living in a nice mansion in Malibu with Skyler working as a prostitute for the Mexican drug cartel.
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Last night was so fucking good.
Gus is a smart man. Reeling Walt back in by using Jesse? Brilliant. Building the lab for Walt? Brilliant.
Jesse is about to get fucked. Does he: a) snitch and fulfill his old/new again role as the bad guy? or b) realize that he's not really that guy and keep his lip zipped? or c) Sell his soul to be an informant?
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Wow.
If you're not watching this show, you're missing the most badass 60 minutes of cable television available right now.
Firing Gale is going to bite Walt in the ass. I think Gus was expecting Gale to cop Walt's recipe. He's the star pupil, eager to learn...and he was damned sure taking copious notes. Gus was trying to forestall the cousins until the recipe was safe in Gale's hands.
The phone call to Hank? Gus is the easy call...I think it more likely that Hank's boss is Gus's silent partner. A HUGE meth operation in the area and the Feds can't sniff him out? Please.
Hank is definitely still alive. All the shots to him were noticeably non-fatal and this was a very public area. Plenty of cops/emts will be on scene asap.
Jesse is plotting something. I think we take the bait if we assume that he just wanted his substitute father-figure's (Walt's) approval ("Your meth is as good as mine"). Too easy. He's pissed at the world after losing his "true love" and he will have his by-god revenge.
The wildcard in that episode was the squishy cousin. He's definitely injured badly, but even a man in a wheelchair can bring down the heat (shout out to Don Salamanco). You don't give us the back story with the near-drowning to kill those two off so quickly.
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That's wicked as shit.
http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/?bcpid=9787693001&bclid=72533141001&bctid=82271341001 (http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/?bcpid=9787693001&bclid=72533141001&bctid=82271341001)
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So the second cousin is killed by the shady cat employed by both Saul and Gus.
Gus gets the competition south of the border capped. Major power play and Gus has to have to major support to make a move like that...which leads me to...
Walt, Jr.'s book about Pablo Escobar. "The good guys never get as much ink as the bad guys." Are we being led to the realization that Gus is, in fact, in bed with the Feds? I think so.
Marie's breakdown on the DEA and Walt was tense stuff.
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I gotta watch the first season.
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I gotta watch the first season.
And the second.
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And the second.
Well yes that as well.
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I am not sure Jesse is plating revenge anymore Wes. He just looked happy to be there the other night. I think when you get offered $1.5M to do very little, your "revenge" goes out the window. I do think he is an accident waiting to happen though. And the plot will big time thicken when Hank get's out of the hospital. The tension surrounding Hank and Jesse, with Jesse being a loose cannon and Hank watching his every move, will be interesting.
Thanks for letting me know about the show. I caught up online with the first 2 seasons and have been watching Season 3. This is some good shit...
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I am not sure Jesse is plating revenge anymore Wes. He just looked happy to be there the other night. I think when you get offered $1.5M to do very little, your "revenge" goes out the window. I do think he is an accident waiting to happen though. And the plot will big time thicken when Hank get's out of the hospital. The tension surrounding Hank and Jesse, with Jesse being a loose cannon and Hank watching his every move, will be interesting.
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You might be right about the revenge angle. The Walt/Hank/Jesse dynamic is going to be very interesting indeed.
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So the second cousin is killed by the shady cat employed by both Saul and Gus.
Gus gets the competition south of the border capped. Major power play and Gus has to have to major support to make a move like that...which leads me to...
Walt, Jr.'s book about Pablo Escobar. "The good guys never get as much ink as the bad guys." Are we being led to the realization that Gus is, in fact, in bed with the Feds? I think so.
Marie's breakdown on the DEA and Walt was tense stuff.
Either Gus is in bed with the Feds, or he's getting in over his head. I'm leaning towards the latter. Not sure why. Just am.
I am very curious, however, to see where the show goes from here. The Mexican cartel was becoming an integral aspect of the plot. They're pretty much gone for now. At least until someone comes looking for more revenge.
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Walt is losing his shit. Not good for anyone involved. I really thought he was going to spill the story about Jane to Jesse whilst fucked up on sleeping pills.
I am not sure Jesse is plating revenge anymore Wes. He just looked happy to be there the other night.
I have to disagree. He's saving her old cig butts in his ashtray and longingly viewing them occasionally? Dude hasn't put anything aside and I still think he's biding his time.
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Hoooooo man....shit is getting intense.
I figured Skyler would pull a Carmella and get in the game. I wonder if Ted is going to lose favor as she sinks into her life of crime or if she'll help him out of his financial troubles. She once balked at signing his bogus financials...but I think her ethics are slipping a bit.
Walt is pulling his shit back together a bit and I think it reeeeeeeally helps him (though he pretends to want to keep her out of it) that Skyler is in bed, figuratively, with him. The dinner with Gus was a shot over the bow, though. Walt needs to rein Jesse in on the light thieving. Which brings us to...
Mr. Pinkman. He was really getting his shit together and then Jane died. Then he decided to say "fuck the world" and be the bad guy. He planted his junkie buddies in an AA meeting to push his meth. Ballsy. Buuuuuuuut, turns out Jesse still has a conscience and he couldn't let his new piece of ass ruin her son's life for his own financial gain. Interesting stuff with Jesse copping a look at the Mexican gangstas that shot his buddy.
Hank...what to do with Hank? He's an emotional disaster, he's balking at his PT....he's going to be very, very angry at the Mexican mob...and if he were to find out that Walt was dealing with them...or, worse, that Hank was to be a sacrifice in Walt's stead....wow. This guy is going to blow sky high.
Great, great show. Can't stress that enough.
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Hoooooo man....shit is getting intense.
I figured Skyler would pull a Carmella and get in the game. I wonder if Ted is going to lose favor as she sinks into her life of crime or if she'll help him out of his financial troubles. She once balked at signing his bogus financials...but I think her ethics are slipping a bit.
Walt is pulling his shit back together a bit and I think it reeeeeeeally helps him (though he pretends to want to keep her out of it) that Skyler is in bed, figuratively, with him. The dinner with Gus was a shot over the bow, though. Walt needs to rein Jesse in on the light thieving. Which brings us to...
Mr. Pinkman. He was really getting his shit together and then Jane died. Then he decided to say "fuck the world" and be the bad guy. He planted his junkie buddies in an AA meeting to push his meth. Ballsy. Buuuuuuuut, turns out Jesse still has a conscience and he couldn't let his new piece of ass ruin her son's life for his own financial gain. Interesting stuff with Jesse copping a look at the Mexican gangstas that shot his buddy.
Hank...what to do with Hank? He's an emotional disaster, he's balking at his PT....he's going to be very, very angry at the Mexican mob...and if he were to find out that Walt was dealing with them...or, worse, that Hank was to be a sacrifice in Walt's stead....wow. This guy is going to blow sky high.
Great, great show. Can't stress that enough.
This show gets better each week. Even the "Fly" episode was amazing although I think a lot of people missed the point.
I think we're about to see Jesse really go off the deep end. I think he's going to kill the kid. Jesse has been the junkie/dealer, but he's not really a killer.
Something I expect to see in the future is Gus being taken out. Obviously Walt sees Jesse as a son, and I don't think he'll allow Gus to kill or remove Jesse from the plans.
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How can you take Gus out? Gus is the whole operation.
What did Gus mean when he told Walt at dinner, "Never make the same mistake twice?"
On the show previews after the episodes, it says, "There are only 2 episodes of Breaking Bad left,..." Is this in the life of the show? Or just the season?
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How can you take Gus out? Gus is the whole operation.
What did Gus mean when he told Walt at dinner, "Never make the same mistake twice?"
On the show previews after the episodes, it says, "There are only 2 episodes of Breaking Bad left,..." Is this in the life of the show? Or just the season?
Season.
And Gus isn't the whole operation in terms of the show. He might be the current drug kingpin and the main guy helping Walt being a manufacturer, but we've had "Gus"es before. Tuco being a smaller version.
I like Gus, but if you keep him around and don't kill off Jesse or Skyler or someone else important, the show will get stale. This show is built on the "holy shit!" surprise factor, and you need big changes in the pace to keep it going.
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Season.
And Gus isn't the whole operation in terms of the show. He might be the current drug kingpin and the main guy helping Walt being a manufacturer, but we've had "Gus"es before. Tuco being a smaller version.
I like Gus, but if you keep him around and don't kill off Jesse or Skyler or someone else important, the show will get stale. This show is built on the "holy shit!" surprise factor, and you need big changes in the pace to keep it going.
Could you see them offing Gus, and then Walt take over the operations with Skylar being the main man within operations. She seems to be pretty adamant about being a part of the decision making and wants to become fully involved. Maybe she is sharp enough to pull it off...
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Could you see them offing Gus, and then Walt take over the operations with Skylar being the main man within operations. She seems to be pretty adamant about being a part of the decision making and wants to become fully involved. Maybe she is sharp enough to pull it off...
I still think Gus has a silent, and very powerful, partner. Harken back to the phone call Hank got just before the Mexicans came to kill him. Only Gus and the twins knew about that hit. Why would Gus tip Hank? Gus has a major meth operation and deals with the Mexican mob on the regular....and no one can sniff him out?
I think Gus has Hank's boss (or some other high-level DEA agent) as a partner. This partner did not want Hank to be hurt, so he tipped him to the hit.
Gus gets taken out and Walt is promoted...creating an awesome tension dynamic between Walt/Hank/Skyler/Marie.
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Holy shit, Walt!
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For those that like the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZpo89mmJo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZpo89mmJo#ws)
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Holy shit, Walt!
Yeah, that was a game changer.
I'll need a little time to digest this episode.
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Walt is done taking "half-measures" apparently...just not the way Gus and the private dick meant for him to do so.
Marie gives a fun looking handjob...funny way to get Hank to admit that he's not a lost cause.
Skyler makes sense in her belief that the car wash laundry scheme works better than Walt's "plausible deniability" approach. I think she's actually looking forward to being in the business. She wants some danger, I think.
So...what to do with Walt/Jesse/Gus? Walt clearly made a statement. How will Gus react? War? Will Gus's partner finally surface to put an end to the petty shit and get everybody back down to business? Will Gus be removed and Walt installed in his place?
I think that last option is the least likely since Gus owns the cover businesses (chicken plant, laundry, etc).
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Yeah, that was a game changer.
I'll need a little time to digest this episode.
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Walt is done taking "half-measures" apparently...just not the way Gus and the private dick meant for him to do so.
Marie gives a fun looking handjob...funny way to get Hank to admit that he's not a lost cause.
Skyler makes sense in her belief that the car wash laundry scheme works better than Walt's "plausible deniability" approach. I think she's actually looking forward to being in the business. She wants some danger, I think.
So...what to do with Walt/Jesse/Gus? Walt clearly made a statement. How will Gus react? War? Will Gus's partner finally surface to put an end to the petty shit and get everybody back down to business? Will Gus be removed and Walt installed in his place?
I think that last option is the least likely since Gus owns the cover businesses (chicken plant, laundry, etc).
Some ideas for next season:
- Hank gets some mobility back, but he's unable to rejoin the DEA.
- Gus has invested too much into Walt. Gus could go back to being the dealer he once was, but Walt's product and his decision to take out the cartel has made him the #1 cartel in the region. He's stuck with Walt and must consult Walt more often if he is to remain the top dealer.
- A government official (politician/DEA/FBI) is partners with Gus. I say it's someone connected to Hank, and that's how Hank will get involved again. Hank has a pride issue, and he'll realize that he doesn't care about enforcing the law but rather being part of the action. This sets up for Hank to unknowingly protect Heizenberg and/or whoever Gus's partner is.
- Walt Jr. has to get more involved. Maybe he starts getting jealous of Pinkman.
Of course, none of this will probably happen. That's why I love this show. I have no idea what's going to happen next.
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Some ideas for next season:
- Hank gets some mobility back, but he's unable to rejoin the DEA.
- Gus has invested too much into Walt. Gus could go back to being the dealer he once was, but Walt's product and his decision to take out the cartel has made him the #1 cartel in the region. He's stuck with Walt and must consult Walt more often if he is to remain the top dealer.
- A government official (politician/DEA/FBI) is partners with Gus. I say it's someone connected to Hank, and that's how Hank will get involved again. Hank has a pride issue, and he'll realize that he doesn't care about enforcing the law but rather being part of the action. This sets up for Hank to unknowingly protect Heizenberg and/or whoever Gus's partner is.
- Walt Jr. has to get more involved. Maybe he starts getting jealous of Pinkman.
Of course, none of this will probably happen. That's why I love this show. I have no idea what's going to happen next.
All very good ideas. I especially like the Hank-turned-bad-guy option.
Can't wait to see the season finale.
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Excellent season finale. Good God, this show continues to produce!
Now, I will say this - the very very end was lame. You know Jesse didn't shoot the guy. Kind of a weak cliffhanger.
But the rest of the episode was intense, and I can't believe I have to wait a year to figure out what happens.
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You know Jesse didn't shoot the guy.
I agree. I think Victor beat him to Gale's house and the shot was Victor popping one off at Jesse.
Mike's a bad mofo...that scene at Chow's place was awesome. The hands up/down bit to locate the Mexican was funny as shit.
Walt has some motherfucking stones talking to Gus the way he did and getting Jesse to sprint to Gale's.
As always, the show needs more Saul. Bob Odenkirk is the unsung hero of this cast.
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I agree. I think Victor beat him to Gale's house and the shot was Victor popping one off at Jesse.
Mike's a bad mofo...that scene at Chow's place was awesome. The hands up/down bit to locate the Mexican was funny as shit.
Walt has some motherfucking stones talking to Gus the way he did and getting Jesse to sprint to Gale's.
As always, the show needs more Saul. Bob Odenkirk is the unsung hero of this cast.
I also thought that maybe Victor made it to Gale's place before Jesse got there and was approaching from behind Gale. Jesse noticed him and popped him. It would set up for Jesse to kidnap Gale, hold him hostage, and give Walt all negotiating power.
I hear they aren't going to start filming season 4 until next January meaning it would be July when the season premiers. Sucky wait.
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I also thought that maybe Victor made it to Gale's place before Jesse got there and was approaching from behind Gale. Jesse noticed him and popped him. It would set up for Jesse to kidnap Gale, hold him hostage, and give Walt all negotiating power.
This is what I was thinking. I am not sure that Pinkman could have shot Gale. I think he shot Victor.
The holding Gale hostage would be a great twist. It would keep Walt in power which he is seemingly taking more and more control with every episode.
If Pinkman was shot, the show would pretty much be over. That would mean that Gale was still alive and in Gus' hands, which means Walt would be dead.
The scene with Walt talking to Mike at the lab was fucking awesome. The way that he turned from scardy-cat to you can't fucking touch me was great. Walt is every bit of a bad ass as Mike. He is a smart mother fucker, and I bet that Mike end's up respecting that and at some point, they join alliances...
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This is what I was thinking. I am not sure that Pinkman could have shot Gale. I think he shot Victor.
The holding Gale hostage would be a great twist. It would keep Walt in power which he is seemingly taking more and more control with every episode.
If Pinkman was shot, the show would pretty much be over. That would mean that Gale was still alive and in Gus' hands, which means Walt would be dead.
The scene with Walt talking to Mike at the lab was fucking awesome. The way that he turned from scardy-cat to you can't fucking touch me was great. Walt is every bit of a bad ass as Mike. He is a smart mother fucker, and I bet that Mike end's up respecting that and at some point, they join alliances...
I agree with this post in its entirety. Especially that last sentence. Gus is going to be deposed and Walt will attempt to fill the vacuum, but he needs help.
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I agree with this post in its entirety. Especially that last sentence. Gus is going to be deposed and Walt will attempt to fill the vacuum, but he needs help.
Wes - you are single handedly going to force me to watch this show. It sounds great.
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Wes - you are single handedly going to force me to watch this show. It sounds great.
I'm an unapologetic advocate of this series.
I hate reality television and most network tv fare so I don't usually pimp tv shows. This one, though, is phenomenal.
Watch, you won't regret it. If you get caught up on seasons 1 & 2 fast enough, you can catch AMC re-running season 3 in its entirety in July.
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I'm an unapologetic advocate of this series.
I hate reality television and most network tv fare so I don't usually pimp tv shows. This one, though, is phenomenal.
Watch, you won't regret it. If you get caught up on seasons 1 & 2 fast enough, you can catch AMC re-running season 3 in its entirety in July.
Or you can go and watch the webisodes on the AMC website. This is how I got caught up on season 1 and 2. They are definitely not as good as the show, however, it gives you a 5 to 6 minute recap of each of the shows per season. It is a nice quick way to catch up. I knew everything I needed for season 3 after watching those...
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I'm an unapologetic advocate of this series.
I hate reality television and most network tv fare so I don't usually pimp tv shows. This one, though, is phenomenal.
Watch, you won't regret it. If you get caught up on seasons 1 & 2 fast enough, you can catch AMC re-running season 3 in its entirety in July.
I haven't watched but it SOUNDS like The Sopranos in writing style and with very few plot holes. I absolutely loved Sopranos because of the flawless nature of the show. This sounds like a well made show as well.