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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on November 29, 2017, 09:46:14 PM
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EAST:
Florida (Dan Mullen)
Tennessee (Jeremy Pruitt)
WEST:
Ole Miss (Matt Luke)
Arkansas (Chad Morris)
aTm (Jimbo Fisher)
Miss State (Joe Moorehead)
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EAST:
Florida (Dan Mullen)
Tennessee (down to their 9th choice)
WEST:
Ole Miss (Matt Luke)
Arkansas
aTm (Jimbo Fisher likely)
Miss State (Joe Moorehead)
Wots is that the hog brass are throwing the bank at gus soon. And it seems as if we are adjusting on our end with renegotiations. Personally I think either leach, brohm or miles would be good at arky.
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Wots is that the hog brass are throwing the bank at gus soon. And it seems as if we are adjusting on our end with renegotiations. Personally I think either leach, brohm or miles would be good at arky.
Mike Leach at Arkansas would be a culture shock...I don't see that happening. I could see Les Miles there.
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Right, wrong or otherwise, Gus will be pulling Dabo Sweeney bucks (somewhere around 7.5M+/-) if he completes this trifecta.
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If Gus leaves, promote Steele and give Lindsey a long term, lucrative contract.
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EAST:
Florida (Dan Mullen)
Tennessee (down to their 9th choice)
WEST:
Ole Miss (Matt Luke)
Arkansas
aTm (Jimbo Fisher likely)
Miss State (Joe Moorehead)
Not sure if you noticed but Chizzy likes to give Joe’s last name.
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If Gus leaves, promote Steele and give Lindsey a long term, lucrative contract.
Steele is 59. We can lock him in at top rate while keeping Lindsey a couple more seasons.
I'm betting Gus doesn't go full Gus and continues to manage as he has since the LSU debacle. Arky will be but a memory if he wins out.
I think Gus can finally see the parallels of his assention with that of Frost, Taggart and Norvell. (9 yrs. with Graham)
Keep the hammer down... it's what brung you.
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Not sure if you noticed but Chizzy likes to give Joe’s last name.
If Wes find thesaurus, you will be chided or worse.
Really lame humor attempt. High IQ not like.
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I think Gus can finally see the parallels of his assention with that of Frost, Taggart and Norvell. (9 yrs. with Graham)
I'd put Gus in the senior class with these guys wearing their frosh beanies and trying to find the quad.
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If Gus leaves, promote Steele and give Lindsey a long term, lucrative contract.
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I'd put Gus in the senior class with these guys wearing their frosh beanies and trying to find the quad.
Wasn't comparing. Rather these guys pile up yards and score big-time which is what got Gus a head coaching position over what he had turned into- an ultra-conservative, sit on a lead, predictable, play not to lose coach.
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If Gus leaves, promote Steele and give Lindsey a long term, lucrative contract.
Bad Idea :charles:
Note to AD Search Committee...Do not hire Snaggle as AD.
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Bad Idea :charles:
Note to AD Search Committee...Do not hire Snaggle as AD.
Why? If Gus has done what we think he has, truly turned the O over to Lindsey, then we could have left CGM in the locker room or on the bus for every game and be 12-0 right now. Gus' job is to go "Boom" on the sidelines and talk about how we beat the dog shit out of Georgia.
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Why? If Gus has done what we think he has, truly turned the O over to Lindsey, then we could have left CGM in the locker room or on the bus for every game and be 12-0 right now. Gus' job is to go "Boom" on the sidelines and talk about how we beat the dog shit out of Georgia.
Listen I'm not apologizing to Gus yet either, I'm where you are at on our head coach. However, I'm also not a fickle fan, you can't give Gus all of the blame and then give him none of the credit when he wins.
Kevin Steele was a terrible failure as a head coach at Baylor 9-36. I think he is an AMAZING DC but not a HC. and we have no idea if Lindsey has full control or not...maybe him and Gus finally have ways to bounce things off each other. Who the fuck knows.
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Listen I'm not apologizing to Gus yet either, I'm where you are at on our head coach. However, I'm also not a fickle fan, you can't give Gus all of the blame and then give him none of the credit when he wins.
Kevin Steele was a terrible failure as a head coach at Baylor 9-36. I think he is an AMAZING DC but not a HC. and we have no idea if Lindsey has full control or not...maybe him and Gus finally have ways to bounce things off each other. Who the fuck knows.
Plus, we would lose Kodi.
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Listen I'm not apologizing to Gus yet either, I'm where you are at on our head coach. However, I'm also not a fickle fan, you can't give Gus all of the blame and then give him none of the credit when he wins.
Kevin Steele was a terrible failure as a head coach at Baylor 9-36. I think he is an AMAZING DC but not a HC.
9-36 is not so bad. I mean, how many of those losses were by 25 points or less? Did you even check on that, huh? I mean, they were THIS close to being 15-30 at worst.
And just because I had been drinking heavily for 3 days when I posted that and totally forgot he had been a HC is NOT my fault!!!
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Listen I'm not apologizing to Gus yet either, I'm where you are at on our head coach. However, I'm also not a fickle fan, you can't give Gus all of the blame and then give him none of the credit when he wins.
Kevin Steele was a terrible failure as a head coach at Baylor 9-36. I think he is an AMAZING DC but not a HC. and we have no idea if Lindsey has full control or not...maybe him and Gus finally have ways to bounce things off each other. Who the fuck knows.
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Why? If Gus has done what we think he has, truly turned the O over to Lindsey, then we could have left CGM in the locker room or on the bus for every game and be 12-0 right now. Gus' job is to go "Boom" on the sidelines and talk about how we beat the dog shit out of Georgia.
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*Edit* And I am not in the camp of "Gus doesn't do anything". He obviously does a lot. I don't even mind him having a head set on and participating in the offense. BUT, I do think that when Gus is calling the plays, there is an obvious lack of strategy. I think Chip has really helped him out after he finally allowed him to. I still do think Gus has a lot of say in the offense, which is fine with me.
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*Edit* And I am not in the camp of "Gus doesn't do anything". He obviously does a lot. I don't even mind him having a head set on and participating in the offense. BUT, I do think that when Gus is calling the plays, there is an obvious lack of strategy. I think Chip has really helped him out after he finally allowed him to. I still do think Gus has a lot of say in the offense, which is fine with me.
Yep. You're 100% right on this.
Your assessment of these two posts is accurate.
Consider the sources. That explains everything.
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*Edit* And I am not in the camp of "Gus doesn't do anything". He obviously does a lot. I don't even mind him having a head set on and participating in the offense. BUT, I do think that when Gus is calling the plays, there is an obvious lack of strategy. I think Chip has really helped him out after he finally allowed him to. I still do think Gus has a lot of say in the offense, which is fine with me.
Start at the 7:00 mark and watch for a minute. I've been saying this for a while. What's being run is not Gus Malzahn's offense. He says throughout this video that Chip understands the core of my offense, which is run first. But it's his offense, his pay calling and his responsibility. We all knew Gus would interfere at some point (Clemson and LSU) but, Gus has never run some of the plays we've been putting on Georgia and Bama.
https://youtu.be/7KfdCY_MO44
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Start at the 7:00 mark and watch for a minute. I've been saying this for a while. What's being run is not Gus Malzahn's offense. He says throughout this video that Chip understands the core of my offense, which is run first. But it's his offense, his pay calling and his responsibility. We all knew Gus would interfere at some point (Clemson and LSU) but, Gus has never run some of the plays we've been putting on Georgia and Bama.
Playing devils advocate here, (because I have said the opposite) but could it also be that Gus with a new offensive coordinator and a rookie QB was dictating more of his offensive prowess into the gameplan in the beginning and has released the reigns as things have gone and players have gotten more comfortable and better throughout the year? I will say that Stidham while still not perfect has improved leaps and bounds from the beginning of the year. That alone can be the cause of the improvement in our offense.
I'm just saying you can't blame Gus for all of the failures and then say it's all Lindsey and Steele when we win, because none of us really know.
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Why? If Gus has done what we think he has, truly turned the O over to Lindsey, then we could have left CGM in the locker room or on the bus for every game and be 12-0 right now. Gus' job is to go "Boom" on the sidelines and talk about how we beat the dog shit out of Georgia.
And then that whole recruiting thing too. He's purdee good at it.
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Playing devils advocate here, (because I have said the opposite) but could it also be that Gus with a new offensive coordinator and a rookie QB was dictating more of his offensive prowess into the gameplan in the beginning and has released the reigns as things have gone and players have gotten more comfortable and better throughout the year? I will say that Stidham while still not perfect has improved leaps and bounds from the beginning of the year. That alone can be the cause of the improvement in our offense.
I'm just saying you can't blame Gus for all of the failures and then say it's all Lindsey and Steele when we win, because none of us really know.
All I'm saying is that I'm (Sort of) taking Gus at his word. He is emphatic that it's Chip's offense, his play calling and his responsibility, as opposed to some saying Chip is helping him out. I said before this season started that if Gus would actually do that, we might be pretty damn good. But, I honestly didn't think he could. And you can check on that and confirm it. And if I really didn't say that, let me know so I can go back and alter my posts and then claim it. Ultimately, I'm saying that if Gus has truly done that....then it's GOOD thing. Great job! I give him credit for letting the guys he hired to do their jobs....do their jobs.
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I'm just being honest here...
What has me backtracking from the beginning of the year and being TOTALLY against Gus to now on the fence aren't just the wins against UGA and bama. Sure that is a part of it, but it's looking at the larger landscape of college football as a whole. The game has changed so much in the last 15 years. 9-3 seasons used to be good but are now considered shit if you don't make the playoffs.
I'm just wondering where we are anymore as a fanbase. Are we ok with 3-5 losses but an amazing season once every 4 years? What if I said we would be 10-2 for the next 4 years but never made one playoff versus we are going to be 8-4, 7-5, 9-3 but that 4th season man we are going to be in the show? Which would you rather have? I know what I would.
Kevin Sumlin just got fired at aTm after having a .662 winning percentage there. The prior coaches Sherman and Frachione were .500 and .533.
All I'm saying is a lot of us were clamoring for the Tubs days, but a lot of us forget Tubs lost games he should have won too, most coaches do. Are we too quick to react in this new era of College Football? Are we being too fickle of fans?
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Start at the 7:00 mark and watch for a minute. I've been saying this for a while. What's being run is not Gus Malzahn's offense. He says throughout this video that Chip understands the core of my offense, which is run first. But it's his offense, his pay calling and his responsibility. We all knew Gus would interfere at some point (Clemson and LSU) but, Gus has never run some of the plays we've been putting on Georgia and Bama.
https://youtu.be/7KfdCY_MO44
Other than the passing game it's all the same minus a couple of dipsy dos and flea flickers.
So maybe they are co- coordinating in sequence. Whatever, it's working.
And Stidham has steadily improved into the best QB in the conference.
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I'm just being honest here...
What has me backtracking from the beginning of the year and being TOTALLY against Gus to now on the fence aren't just the wins against UGA and bama. Sure that is a part of it, but it's looking at the larger landscape of college football as a whole. The game has changed so much in the last 15 years. 9-3 seasons used to be good but are now considered shit if you don't make the playoffs.
I'm just wondering where we are anymore as a fanbase. Are we ok with 3-5 losses but an amazing season once every 4 years? What if I said we would be 10-2 for the next 4 years but never made one playoff versus we are going to be 8-4, 7-5, 9-3 but that 4th season man we are going to be in the show? Which would you rather have? I know what I would.
Kevin Sumlin just got fired at aTm after having a .662 winning percentage there. The prior coaches Sherman and Frachione were .500 and .533.
All I'm saying is a lot of us were clamoring for the Tubs days, but a lot of us forget Tubs lost games he should have won too, most coaches do. Are we too quick to react in this new era of College Football? Are we being too fickle of fans?
A couple of points. My biggest issue where Gus has been concerned has been the lack of utilizing the wealth of talent we've had since he's been here. He's gotten the players in but wasted the hell out of them for several years. Do I want championships? Sure I do. But if we go into Saturday or a bowl game or a championship game or any game next year, and approach it with the same philosophy as we have recently, I'm 100% fine with the outcome. Why? Because I know we're doing everything we can to maximize the talent on the field. We haven't done that in a long time. Get beat by a team that was better on that day? I can live with it.
Second, I agree wholeheartedly with the few less successful years traded off for the show. I posted about what an incredible day, atmosphere, game etc. it was in the win over Georgia. I remember thinking what if Georgia had gone to BDS that day and gotten beat the same way? What would the reaction of Bama fan be? You know what it would be. "That's the way it should be. Georgia never deserved to be #1. We're back in our rightful place." My reaction was that days like that don't come around that often. I'm gettin' all lathered up in it. It's great to be an Auburn Tiger.
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Are we being too fickle of fans?
No. Not at all.
You and I both have no problem with losing. It's a game, it happens.
But it's the WAY we are losing that drew our ire. It's the shuffling of the QBs that cost us Clemson last year. That's the kind of bullshit I expect from a guy coaching his first high school game, not a coach making in excess of 4M a year at a top 20 college. It's the way he trotted White out when he wasn't ready to go back out (and what I'm terribly afraid of him doing this weekend with KJ) that made us question him. It's the shell that he went into in the second half vs LSU.
And with Tubs, sure we'd have the head scratchers, I think I just saw Fred Talley run by my office window here at Georgia Tech. But I don't recall the WTF moments quite like I do with Gus, meaning yes, we did have games where we just got our asses kicked (black saturday 2001 for starters), and yes, that's the coaches responsibility, but I don't recall watching a game, and wondering, Why in the fuck is Tubs doing this.
Am I on the fire Gus bandwagon? No. No way in hell do I want to be going through a coaching search next week. And yes, I realize that means paying the man his money. I expect he will get a 5 year extension at 6.5M/year, regardless if he wins or loses this weekend.
I think it goes back to when we hired him. We all talked about his lack of head coaching experience, and that we didn't think Auburn was a place to learn on the job. And maybe 2014-16 and 17 through the LSU game were him learning. I don't know the answer to that.
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I'm just being honest here...
What has me backtracking from the beginning of the year and being TOTALLY against Gus to now on the fence aren't just the wins against UGA and bama. Sure that is a part of it, but it's looking at the larger landscape of college football as a whole. The game has changed so much in the last 15 years. 9-3 seasons used to be good but are now considered shit if you don't make the playoffs.
I'm just wondering where we are anymore as a fanbase. Are we ok with 3-5 losses but an amazing season once every 4 years? What if I said we would be 10-2 for the next 4 years but never made one playoff versus we are going to be 8-4, 7-5, 9-3 but that 4th season man we are going to be in the show? Which would you rather have? I know what I would.
Kevin Sumlin just got fired at aTm after having a .662 winning percentage there. The prior coaches Sherman and Frachione were .500 and .533.
All I'm saying is a lot of us were clamoring for the Tubs days, but a lot of us forget Tubs lost games he should have won too, most coaches do. Are we too quick to react in this new era of College Football? Are we being too fickle of fans?
For a very, very long time this is all I said I wanted:
1) Beat the ones you're supposed to. You can't go 2-4 against MSU and Ole Miss over three years. You've also got to devour the cupcakes, too.
2) Be consistently competitive against your biggest rivals. You can't be 2-7 against LSU, UGA and UAT. You don't have to beat them every year, but it does need to be somewhat in the even range.
3) Be in the running for the SEC late in every season and have a shot to win (SEC/Playoffs) it all on occasion.
All I really wanted is for us to act like we belong in the Big Six conversation.
Two things happened over the last five years, though, that derailed that.
First is the Saban effect. Those cheating bastards created an artificial bar that everybody has to one degree or another started to chase. It's why A&M thinks they are too good for Sumlin, how Ole Miss was willing to look away, Dixieland when Freeze was whorechasing, why Georgia turned on Richt, why LSU thought it was too elite for Les.... I read other boards every once in a while and it's amazing to me to read how the fans of each program view their own. I've recently seen Arkansas, A&M, Ole Miss, MSU and Tennessee all claim they have the best facilities, the best fanbase, the most advantages, etc. etc. Every single one of those schools actually think they are a Top four SEC destination. Well, that's fucking ridiculous. None of them are. UT was, but that was two decades ago.
Second is the WAY Auburn has lost games in the last few years. I can take losing. It happens. What I can't fathom is coming out and looking like we've never seen a fucking football before. With Gus, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground. We either look like total assclowns or we beat the fuck out of people. That rollercoaster of dumbfuckery to awesomeness doesn't ever let me get settled or comfortable. It's why an 8-3 season feels like 5-6. Because we just look so totally inept that I can't get my mind around it. It's painful to watch.
So to answer your question? I'd be a million percent happy with what I've always wanted -- which is to be competitive all the time and excellent some of the time -- so long as I didn't have to witness the monkey fucking a football scenarios and as long as I know that at some point the Crimpson dynasty will fade.
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No. Not at all.
You and I both have no problem with losing. It's a game, it happens.
But it's the WAY we are losing that drew our ire. It's the shuffling of the QBs that cost us Clemson last year. That's the kind of bullshit I expect from a guy coaching his first high school game, not a coach making in excess of 4M a year at a top 20 college. It's the way he trotted White out when he wasn't ready to go back out (and what I'm terribly afraid of him doing this weekend with KJ) that made us question him. It's the shell that he went into in the second half vs LSU.
And with Tubs, sure we'd have the head scratchers, I think I just saw Fred Talley run by my office window here at Georgia Tech. But I don't recall the WTF moments quite like I do with Gus, meaning yes, we did have games where we just got our asses kicked (black saturday 2001 for starters), and yes, that's the coaches responsibility, but I don't recall watching a game, and wondering, Why in the fuck is Tubs doing this.
Am I on the fire Gus bandwagon? No. No way in hell do I want to be going through a coaching search next week. And yes, I realize that means paying the man his money. I expect he will get a 5 year extension at 6.5M/year, regardless if he wins or loses this weekend.
I think it goes back to when we hired him. We all talked about his lack of head coaching experience, and that we didn't think Auburn was a place to learn on the job. And maybe 2014-16 and 17 through the LSU game were him learning. I don't know the answer to that.
Same page. You and I are on it. Wait, did that sound gay? Yeah, I think that was totally gay.
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I feel like it's Gus/Chip's offense. They both input. And now, Chip is calling plays.
I think that regardless of who was calling plays in the Clemson and LSU games, Stidham wasn't very far into the playbook.
We are quick to judge. In the old days, a first year qb AND oc together, usually made for a tough year. At least it was expected. I really don't remember when the last time is or even if we've experienced that.
Gus was just on a short leash because we haven't met our own expectations the last couple of years. And that's on him. But I'm not concerned right now if it really is feast or famine with Gus. I don't care if it is. He's worth it. If we can be in postion to play for it all 2 out of every 5 years?
Hell yeah, I'll take the down years and lack of consistency. But I think he's learned a whole lot about being a ceo coach and has made two fantastic hires. So, the consistency is coming around.
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Other than the passing game it's all the same minus a couple of dipsy dos and flea flickers.
So maybe they are co- coordinating in sequence. Whatever, it's working.
And Stidham has steadily improved into the best QB in the conference.
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And Stidham has steadily improved into the best QB in the conference.
And he totally has. The boy can throw the damn ball on a rope. He has made some throws the last 3 weeks that are as good as anybody. The kind of QB play that we have all seen and wondered in the last decade why in the hell Auburn cant get a QB like that. Outside of Cam, Stidham is on a fast track to being that guy.
Also, side note, after leaving the GA Southern game, the wife and I went to grab a bite to eat and saw Stidham and his family. I couldn't help but notice how upset he was with himself and his play on the field. Idk, maybe something just told me this guy was for real and was gonna do some great things at Auburn.
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Are we being too fickle of fans?
I had to re-evaluate my fandom after a good week of practice. I wanted Gus gone on the next bus out after the LSU game...because of his pattern of completely shitting the bed 2 maybe 3 times a season since 2014. Then, after the Iron Bowl, I saw a stat...Auburn is the ONLY team to beat Nick Saban 4 times in his tenure at the crapstone. Gus was a huge part of 3 of those wins. And he is doing it by the rules it seems, which makes it all the much better.
I think I had been using them as the measuring stick for Gus and Auburn football as a whole. I realized that I was wrong in that and I am here to admit it.
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Same page. You and I are on it. Wait, did that sound gay? Yeah, I think that was totally gay.
You two get a room
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Same page. You and I are on it. Wait, did that sound gay? Yeah, I think that was totally gay.
All you had to do was hit LIKE!
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All you had to do was hit LIKE!
That's gay.
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I had to re-evaluate my fandom after a good week of practice. I wanted Gus gone on the next bus out after the LSU game...because of his pattern of completely shitting the bed 2 maybe 3 times a season since 2014. Then, after the Iron Bowl, I saw a stat...Auburn is the ONLY team to beat Nick Saban 4 times in his tenure at the crapstone. Gus was a huge part of 3 of those wins. And he is doing it by the rules it seems, which makes it all the much better.
I think I had been using them as the measuring stick for Gus and Auburn football as a whole. I realized that I was wrong in that and I am here to admit it.
Being man enough to admit when you’re wrong is one of the reasons I support you for the AD job.
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Being man enough to admit when you’re wrong is one of the reasons I support you for the AD job.
Oh, so he's pushing for the AD job now, is he? Not so fast. What about that time he rubbed The Bird on that young girl at Shipwreck Island Water Park while they waited in line for the water slide in 1994? That's inappropriate groping of a sexual assaultive harassing nature.
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Next up for the vols....sumlin.
Yes they've officially hit double digits on prospects (and subsequent rejects) now
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You two get a room
Is this because I said I wouldn't sexually harass you?
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Is this because I said I wouldn't sexually harass you?
I thinly it was going to be perilous.
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I thinly it was going to be perilous.
At least let me have a little of the peril
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At least let me have a little of the peril
No, it's too perilous.
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No, it's too perilous.
I bet you're gay
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I'm just being honest here...
What has me backtracking from the beginning of the year and being TOTALLY against Gus to now on the fence aren't just the wins against UGA and bama. Sure that is a part of it, but it's looking at the larger landscape of college football as a whole. The game has changed so much in the last 15 years. 9-3 seasons used to be good but are now considered shit if you don't make the playoffs.
I'm just wondering where we are anymore as a fanbase. Are we ok with 3-5 losses but an amazing season once every 4 years? What if I said we would be 10-2 for the next 4 years but never made one playoff versus we are going to be 8-4, 7-5, 9-3 but that 4th season man we are going to be in the show? Which would you rather have? I know what I would.
Kevin Sumlin just got fired at aTm after having a .662 winning percentage there. The prior coaches Sherman and Frachione were .500 and .533.
All I'm saying is a lot of us were clamoring for the Tubs days, but a lot of us forget Tubs lost games he should have won too, most coaches do. Are we too quick to react in this new era of College Football? Are we being too fickle of fans?
Yes.
Why though? 2010 took us to the land we all never thought we would ever get to, climbed that mountain again in 2013 but came up just short. The feeling of watching the best team (our team) is incredible, even in the tense, finger nail biting moments you know we will come through. Did not everybody wear the AU stuff a little more in 2010 and 2013? Now teams like A&M and others see we have been there, are getting there again and they want some of that.
I think we all want that feeling again, and earlier this year it just wasn't there and we were frustrated. I was, I was wrong.
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I won't apologize.
When your team is stepping all over their own dick and falling flat on their face, THAT IS COACHING!
Plain and simple.
The talent has been here, the coaching has been lax. We finally have Gus letting his coaches coach and he gets to run the overall show like a head coach and not an OC. That is all any of us ever wanted.
So, no. I will not apologize!
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I won't apologize.
When your team is stepping all over their own dick and falling flat on their face, THAT IS COACHING!
Plain and simple.
The talent has been here, the coaching has been lax. We finally have Gus letting his coaches coach and he gets to run the overall show like a head coach and not an OC. That is all any of us ever wanted.
So, no. I will not apologize!
You humble yourself and apologize right now, damn it. If you don't tell Gus you're sorry and sound very sincere in doing so, then you need to go read the Creed. You are NOT Auburn material in my book.
Not apologizing. I never heard of such.
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it appears Arkansas got a new AD....guess Gus made a call.
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I ain't apologizing fo shit
I was merely axing a question.
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I ain't apologizing fo shit
I was merely axing a question.
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it appears Arkansas got a new AD....guess Gus made a call.
Is she hotter than the interim?
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It’s funny how the more mature and football savvy posters apologized. And the closet gays with emotional issues are all refusing.
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It’s funny how the more mature and football savvy posters apologized. And the closet gays with emotional issues are all refusing.
I am not a closet gay. You take that back. I swear I'll....oh damn you, see what you've made me do. I get all teared up when I get angry and anxious.
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I won't apologize.
When your team is stepping all over their own dick and falling flat on their face, THAT IS COACHING!
Plain and simple.
The talent has been here, the coaching has been lax. We finally have Gus letting his coaches coach and he gets to run the overall show like a head coach and not an OC. That is all any of us ever wanted.
So, no. I will not apologize!
Nor will I. He stuck his head up his own ass. Nasty business.
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It’s funny how the more mature and football savvy posters apologized. And the closet gays with emotional issues are all refusing.
I’ve forgotten more football than you ever...
Oh. I see what you did. I ain’t no gay!
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WOTS Mike Leach and Tennessee are "hammering out the details".
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WOTS Mike Leach and Tennessee are "hammering out the details".
There's treasures to be found in Knoxville matey, ye's jest have ta look hard, desperately hard!
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By Andy Staples
December 01, 2017
The abundance of chefs in Tennessee’s proverbial kitchen is holding up a deal that would bring Washington State’s Mike Leach to Knoxville as the next coach of the Volunteers, and now it has cost athletic director John Currie his job.
Leach and Tennessee athletic director John Currie met in California and agreed to terms Thursday on a deal that would make Leach the Volunteers’ next football coach, but before anything could be signed Currie was called back to Knoxville to reassess a coaching search that has gone from bizarre to surreal. Currie was fired Friday morning.
On Sunday, the Vols agreed to terms with Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano, but an unprecedented fan revolt caused Tennessee officials to back out of the deal. In the succeeding days, Currie discussed the job with Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy, Purdue’s Jeff Brohm and NC State’s Dave Doeren. When word leaked Thursday night that Currie had met with Leach, it was met with almost overwhelming approval by fans on social media. But someone at Tennessee—sources close to the negotiation will not say who—was displeased with Currie’s courtship of Leach. Shortly after a draft of a Memorandum of Understanding was sent to Tennessee’s general counsel on Thursday, Currie was ordered to return to Knoxville.
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Post of the day. You win the internets.
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Have you E-mailed Cary?
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Dallas? Is that you?
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Dallas? Is that you?
No, my picture posting may suck but at least they are real pictures.
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Post of the day. You win the internets.
I'll take my winnings in cash money.
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I'll take my winnings in cash money.
Alrighty sir, .70 cents it is. Thank you for playing.
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Alrighty sir, .70 cents it is. Thank you for playing.
Come on, big money. tree fiddy
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Wots is that the hog brass are throwing the bank at gus soon. And it seems as if we are adjusting on our end with renegotiations. Personally I think either leach, brohm or miles would be good at arky.
Wots, Chad Morris will be the new Arkansas HC.
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Wots, Chad Morris will be the new Arkansas HC.
Did Norvell say no?
I had been following on woopig up til yesterday.
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Did Norvell say no?
I had been following on woopig up til yesterday.
He signed an extension at Memphis.
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Did Norvell say no?
I had been following on woopig up til yesterday.
He signed an extension at Memphis.
^This^
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Wots, Jeremy Pruitt will be UT's new HC.
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Wots, Jeremy Pruitt will be UT's new HC.
he's not on the list.
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Wots, Chad Morris will be the new Arkansas HC.
This is the natural progression after stretching for a couple others.
Good choice.
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Wots, Jeremy Pruitt will be UT's new HC.
UT should prepare him for a real job...or completely ruin his reputation.
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This is the natural progression after stretching for a couple others.
Good choice.
I like Chad Morris.
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he's not on the list.
Thats prolly a good thing.
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I like Chad Morris.
Gay
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Gay
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
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Gay
No, not like that...I want to fuck him, uh I mean I wouldn't mind him being Auburn's HC
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Morris signs a 6 year deal with the Hogs at $3.5 mil/per. Not bad for a 14-22 Head Coach. Wait, I did say Arkansas and not Auburn, right?
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Morris signs a 6 year deal with the Hogs at $3.5 mil/per. Not bad for a 14-22 Head Coach. Wait, I did say Arkansas and not Auburn, right?
Yeah but a bit different, Morris has made the Mustangs better each year. That's what you want to see. Chiz was trending down at ISU.
I think it's a solid hire for them. Although I still think Arkansas is going to be Arkansas, no offense to our hog friends on here. Bulemia was a good coach at Wisconsin, he suddenly didn't just forget how to coach.
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Yeah but a bit different, Morris has made the Mustangs better each year. That's what you want to see. Chiz was trending down at ISU.
I think it's a solid hire for them. Although I still think Arkansas is going to be Arkansas, no offense to our hog friends on here. Bulemia was a good coach at Wisconsin, he suddenly didn't just forget how to coach.
Well, it was tongue-in-bush err, cheek. 14-22 is better than 5-19. The one thing I'd be wary of is the same thing I was when we announced Malzahn as HC. My only thought was that I know our offensive woes will probably be solved, but does he understand you can't make a living in this conference trying to out gun everybody? That's a conference that plays ZERO defense. SMU was 7-5 while giving up 36 points per game.
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Yeah but a bit different, Morris has made the Mustangs better each year. That's what you want to see. Chiz was trending down at ISU.
I think it's a solid hire for them. Although I still think Arkansas is going to be Arkansas, no offense to our hog friends on here. Bulemia was a good coach at Wisconsin, he suddenly didn't just forget how to coach.
Was he ever trending up?
3–9 2007
2–10 2008
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Yeah but a bit different, Morris has made the Mustangs better each year. That's what you want to see. Chiz was trending down at ISU.
I think it's a solid hire for them. Although I still think Arkansas is going to be Arkansas, no offense to our hog friends on here. Bulemia was a good coach at Wisconsin, he suddenly didn't just forget how to coach.
I think he'll do good at Arkansas as long as they give him a few years to get his type of players in.
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Wots, Jeremy Pruitt will be UT's new HC.
he's not on the list.
Yeah, he's on the list.
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Unbelievable that Currie had Schiano and Gundy both coming in as HC for the Vols. They fire him bring in fat Phil and he goes with Pruitt.
Gotta say if I was a UT fan (thank God I'm not) I'd be pissed as hell, not only did you royally screw up your coaching search. You now owe roughly 14 million (8+ to Butch, 5+ to Currie), you are in a lawsuit with Schiano and I would definitely rather have Gundy and possibly Schiano over Pruitt. Have fun wallowing in mediocrity UT.
That sound you hear is us laughing at you...not with you.
For those keeping score at home:
East
^ UF - Mullen (Upgrade sufficed to what we all think of him, he eats dicks, but can coach and recruit)
- UGA - Smart (2nd year playoffs)
- UK - Stoops (Bowling Again)
- USCe - Muschamp (from 6-7 to 8-4 under Will)
- Mizzou - Odom (probably best 2nd half turnaround of the year)
- Vandy - Mason (meh started out decent - missed going bowling)
v UT- Pruitt (not an upgrade to me)
West
- AU - Malzahn (SEC West Champs Gus gets paid 1 bizillion dollars)
- bammer - $atan (fuck them)
- LSU - Orgeron (Loses to Troy at home yet still gets them to 9-3)
v Miss St - Moorehead (Downgrade over Mullin, probably a solid hire for them though)
^ a$m - Fisher (Paid out the ass, but got their man. Hope they don't want to fire him after 4 years)
- Ole Miss - Luke (Hammer came, doesn't matter)
^ Arkansas - Morris (Jury still out but Morris showed improvement each year, and anyone is better than fatso)
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Unbelievable that Currie had Schiano and Gundy both coming in as HC for the Vols. They fire him bring in fat Phil and he goes with Pruitt.
Gotta say if I was a UT fan (thank God I'm not) I'd be pissed as hell, not only did you royally screw up your coaching search. You now owe roughly 14 million (8+ to Butch, 5+ to Currie), you are in a lawsuit with Schiano and I would definitely rather have Gundy and possibly Schiano over Pruitt. Have fun wallowing in mediocrity UT.
That sound you hear is us laughing at you...not with you.
For those keeping score at home:
East
^ UF - Mullen (Upgrade sufficed to what we all think of him, he eats dicks, but can coach and recruit)
- UGA - Smart (2nd year playoffs)
- UK - Stoops (Bowling Again)
- USCe - Muschamp (from 6-7 to 8-4 under Will)
- Mizzou - Odom (probably best 2nd half turnaround of the year)
- Vandy - Mason (meh started out decent - missed going bowling)
v UT- Pruitt (not an upgrade to me)
West
- AU - Malzahn (SEC West Champs Gus gets paid 1 bizillion dollars)
- bammer - $atan (fuck them)
- LSU - Orgeron (Loses to Troy at home yet still gets them to 9-3)
v Miss St - Moorehead (Downgrade over Mullin)
^ a$m - Fisher (Paid out the ass, but got their man. Hope they don't want to fire him after 4 years)
- Ole Miss - Luke (Hammer came, doesn't matter)
^ Arkansas - Morris (Jury still out but Morris showed improvement each year, and anyone is better than fatso)
sorry. I was looking for a bit more detailed analysis!
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My Ranking for the New Head Coaches
1. Florida - Dan Mullen (I would probably rank Fisher #1 for pure upgrade, but they paid him so much money, Mullen did wonders at lowly Miss. State possibilities are endless at UF)
2. Texas A&M - Jimbo Fisher (Has a NC, Proven Recruiter, is FSU and ACC easier though to coach at?)
3. UCLA - Chip Kelly (Perfect fit for Kelly, back on Left Coast, UCLA likes to sling it around, will have them competing for PAC 12 Championships sooner rather than later)
4. Arizona State -Herm Edwards (Great Coach, Well respected, HUGE NFL pedigree. Can he recruit?)
5. Nebraska - Scott Frost (Did wonders in year 2 at perennial doormat UCF, Alma Mater, Can he turn Nebraska back into a winner?)
6. FSU - Willie Taggert (Florida recruiting just became a lot harder. Ace Recruiter FSU will remain in the top with recruiting classes. Jury still out on coaching)
7. Arkansas - Chad Morris (Upgrade over Fat Bert? Bielema had Wisconsin in the hunt every year, did squat in the SEC. Morris has improved SMU every year)
8. Miss. State - Joe Moorehead (not a bad hire, but tough going from Mullen to Moorehead. OC at Penn State, Was HC at Fordham for 4 years compiling a 38-13 record)
9. UCF - Josh Heupel (OC for this years Missouri team, definitely a downgrade based on Frost's achievements. Still it's UCF who really cares?)
10. UT - Jeremy Pruitt (Horrible coaching search, Pruitt DC at bammer for last 2 years, following a 1 year stint as DC for the 2013 NC Seminoles. No head coaching experience, upgrade over Jones?)
11. Ole Miss - Matt Luke (Interim Coach now without the Interim name, will be gone once Ole Miss gets off of probation)
Still Out there
Oregon
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Still out there
Oregon
Head coach at LSU. DUH.
Also. I think Jimbo will flop.
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My Ranking for the New Head Coaches
1. Florida - Dan Mullen (I would probably rank Fisher #1 for pure upgrade, but they paid him so much money, Mullen did wonders at lowly Miss. State possibilities are endless at UF)
2. Texas A&M - Jimbo Fisher (Has a NC, Proven Recruiter, is FSU and ACC easier though to coach at?)
3. UCLA - Chip Kelly (Perfect fit for Kelly, back on Left Coast, UCLA likes to sling it around, will have them competing for PAC 12 Championships sooner rather than later)
4. Arizona State -Herm Edwards (Great Coach, Well respected, HUGE NFL pedigree. Can he recruit?)
5. Nebraska - Scott Frost (Did wonders in year 2 at perennial doormat UCF, Alma Mater, Can he turn Nebraska back into a winner?)
6. FSU - Willie Taggert (Florida recruiting just became a lot harder. Ace Recruiter FSU will remain in the top with recruiting classes. Jury still out on coaching)
7. Arkansas - Chad Morris (Upgrade over Fat Bert? Bielema had Wisconsin in the hunt every year, did squat in the SEC. Morris has improved SMU every year)
8. Miss. State - Joe Moorehead (not a bad hire, but tough going from Mullen to Moorehead. OC at Penn State, Was HC at Fordham for 4 years compiling a 38-13 record)
9. UCF - Josh Heupel (OC for this years Missouri team, definitely a downgrade based on Frost's achievements. Still it's UCF who really cares?)
10. UT - Jeremy Pruitt (Horrible coaching search, Pruitt DC at bammer for last 2 years, following a 1 year stint as DC for the 2013 NC Seminoles. No head coaching experience, upgrade over Jones?)
11. Ole Miss - Matt Luke (Interim Coach now without the Interim name, will be gone once Ole Miss gets off of probation)
Still Out there
Oregon
You play. To win. The game.
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Also. I think Jimbo will flop.
Don't Disagree.
I don't think he will do as well as he did at FSU. My rankings were based purely on paper. On paper, it looks like a solid hire. Hell Pruitt could turn into the greatest coach evah..
All of the guys on that list outside of probably Chip Kelly have big question marks. Thinking about it now, I should probably make Kelly number 1.
Mullen- Can he handle the pressure of a big time program?
Jimbo- Gone are NC State, North Carolina, Clemson... Welcome bama, Auburn, LSU.
Kelly- Same recruiting area, bigger pedigree school, he knows what to do.
Edwards- Been out of the coaching game for awhile, can he recruit? Still he is Herm "Fucking" Edwards, that would work in my living room, will it work in an 18 year olds?
The rest of the coaches on the list have only been HC's for at max maybe 4 years some none at all, so who knows about any of them.
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Don't Disagree.
I don't think he will do as well as he did at FSU. My rankings were based purely on paper. On paper, it looks like a solid hire. Hell Pruitt could turn into the greatest coach evah..
When will we break down and get a Saban disciple so we can win too!
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It occurred to me that after Saban, GUS is the 2nd most tenured coach in the SEC now. Tied with Mark Stoops at Kentucky, actually.
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It occurred to me that after Saban, GUS is the 2nd most tenured coach in the SEC now. Tied with Mark Stoops at Kentucky, actually.
Mullen...if you are saying SEC tenured.
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Mullen...if you are saying SEC tenured.
Chizad math gets him everytime.
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Unbelievable that Currie had Schiano and Gundy both coming in as HC for the Vols. They fire him bring in fat Phil and he goes with Pruitt.
Gotta say if I was a UT fan (thank God I'm not) I'd be pissed as hell, not only did you royally screw up your coaching search. You now owe roughly 14 million (8+ to Butch, 5+ to Currie), you are in a lawsuit with Schiano and I would definitely rather have Gundy and possibly Schiano over Pruitt. Have fun wallowing in mediocrity UT.
That sound you hear is us laughing at you...not with you.
For those keeping score at home:
East
^ UF - Mullen (Upgrade sufficed to what we all think of him, he eats dicks, but can coach and recruit)
- UGA - Smart (2nd year playoffs) FUCK GEORGIA
- UK - Stoops (Bowling Again)
- USCe - Muschamp (from 6-7 to 8-4 under Will)
- Mizzou - Odom (probably best 2nd half turnaround of the year)
- Vandy - Mason (meh started out decent - missed going bowling)
v UT- Pruitt (not an upgrade to me)
West
- AU - Malzahn (SEC West Champs Gus gets paid 1 bizillion dollars)
- bammer - $atan (fuck them)
- LSU - Orgeron (Loses to Troy at home yet still gets them to 9-3)
v Miss St - Moorehead (Downgrade over Mullin, probably a solid hire for them though)
^ a$m - Fisher (Paid out the ass, but got their man. Hope they don't want to fire him after 4 years)
- Ole Miss - Luke (Hammer came, doesn't matter)
^ Arkansas - Morris (Jury still out but Morris showed improvement each year, and anyone is better than fatso)
Added a little sumpn' sumpn' for ya' that you left off.
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Mullen...if you are saying SEC tenured.
I'm saying tenured at their current school in the SEC.
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I'm saying tenured at their current school in the SEC.
No, you said "in the SEC".
It occurred to me that after Saban, GUS is the 2nd most tenured coach in the SEC now. Tied with Mark Stoops at Kentucky, actually.
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No, you said "in the SEC".
I did not account for the mass retardation of the X to think I could have possibly meant anything other than coaches in the SEC at their current jobs. Mea culpa.
In that case, Orgeron has Mullen beat. But still not Saban, because then he's been in the SEC since 2000.
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I did not account for the mass retardation of the X to think I could have possibly meant anything other than coaches in the SEC at their current jobs. Mea culpa.
Rookie move
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Rookie move
Well. You know. We all stupid as hell for not hanging ole Moore from his gonads. What you expect!
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I did not account for the mass retardation of the X to think I could have possibly meant anything other than coaches in the SEC at their current jobs. Mea culpa.
In that case, Orgeron has Mullen beat. But still not Saban, because then he's been in the SEC since 2000.
It wasn't retardation, you said SEC tenured which was why I clarified with "if you are saying SEC tenured" and Orgeron would be 6 (4 Ole Miss, 2 LSU) years but not concurrently. Mullen was 9 years, Saban is 11 at bama, 5 at LSU so 16 but again not concurrently. Gus is of course 5.
I think it makes sense to leave Mullen in the equation though as his SEC tenure would occur from one season to the next.
Now Tenure with the same school, you are correct. :big:
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It wasn't retardation, you said SEC tenured which was why I clarified with "if you are saying SEC tenured" and Orgeron would be 6 (4 Ole Miss, 2 LSU) years but not concurrently. Mullen was 9 years, Saban is 11 at bama, 5 at LSU so 16 but again not concurrently. Gus is of course 5.
I think it makes sense to leave Mullen in the equation though as his SEC tenure would occur from one season to the next.
Now Tenure with the same school, you are correct. :big:
First chizad Math. Now chizad English. Fucksakes this is hard to follow.
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First chizad Math. Now chizad English. Fucksakes this is hard to follow.
He messed up the math too. Mullen is longer "SEC tenured" than Orgeron. Unless he is counting their times in the SEC as assistants, but that would just be stupid.
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He messed up the math too. Mullen is longer "SEC tenured" than Orgeron. Unless he is counting their times in the SEC as assistants, but that would just be stupid.
:poke:
Well it is Chad Logic...so the probability is high.
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When will everybody learn!
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FSU just got much better. By year two Taggart 's offense with Leavitt's defense should make it miserable for Dabo...and everyone else.
Neutralizes the Mullen hire at Florida too.
Richt will still be third in the Sunshine State.
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Fisher is a strong hire for TAMU but I don't see a run from him to rival what Briles did with Baylor.