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Title: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 24, 2017, 06:13:06 PM
It's coming to college football if not already here . What do you say if and when it reaches AU?

Hopefully, it doesn't happen but it might.

If AU has a legal right, I say revoke the scholarship. Send them packing.

They have a duty to represent the school in a positive light, so just warn everyone ahead of time. We stand for the anthem.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 24, 2017, 08:07:45 PM
Those motherfuckers knelt for our anthem and then stood for England’s. 

I’ve yet to hear a single one of them effectively verbalize exactly what it is they are “protesting.”  I hear empty puff phrases like “unity, my brothers, the struggle, etc.”.  But never anything tangible or definable.

Trump was overly bombastic.  But seriously?  Fuck them.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2017, 08:21:01 PM
I became one of many making their protest in my own little way today by not watching one second of the NFL.  I will avoid every channel it's on tonight and tomorrow night and for weeks to come.  I'm a college football fan first but I also love me some NFL and the Falcons.  I'm not saying I won't go to a game later because my son loves the ATL and we enjoy going to games together.  But right now, I plan on being a minute part of helping their viewership decline.

As for college, I'll be happy to turn my back on them in the same way.  That includes Auburn.  It could happen.  It was only recently that Missouri's gutless coach stood in solidarity with his players who walked out in protest over what turned out to be one enormous fraud/sham. College is a whole other animal.  The life blood of a big time D1 program is the donors.  You cut that off and it completely dries up.  Let a bunch of 18-21 year olds start disrespecting and embarrassing good ole State U and guess what?   
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 24, 2017, 08:40:33 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the players don't come out of the tunnel until after the anthem.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 24, 2017, 08:44:49 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the players don't come out of the tunnel until after the anthem.
See^^^ I try to have a serious discussion about a current topic and this is the kind of stuff I have to put up with.

I'm protesting this bitch.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 24, 2017, 08:59:31 PM
See^^^ I try to have a serious discussion about a current topic and this is the kind of stuff I have to put up with.

I'm protesting this bitch.
😀 I kneel on your protest
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 24, 2017, 10:58:12 PM
😀 I kneel on your protest

I take 3 F-18's and flyover your kneel, bitch.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: jmar on September 24, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
And just what are we protesting?
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 25, 2017, 12:13:29 AM
And just what are we protesting?

We're not protesting anything.  The question was posed, "What if?" 
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: jmar on September 25, 2017, 01:54:11 AM
We're not protesting anything.  The question was posed, "What if?"
And I'm just messing with you.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: CCTAU on September 25, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
College players are in the locker room during the anthem. Keep it that way!
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: The Six on September 25, 2017, 08:21:56 AM
College players are in the locker room during the anthem. Keep it that way!

Because taking steroids shots, bumps of coke, and blow jobs from sophomore cleat chasers in public is not tolerable...and that's just the coaches.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 25, 2017, 09:07:28 AM
And just what are we protesting?

That's it!!! I've had it with this place!  I'm taking a knee.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 25, 2017, 09:08:03 AM
Because taking steroids shots, bumps of coke, and blow jobs from sophomore cleat chasers in public is not tolerable...and that's just the coaches.

But enough about Tuscaloosa...
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 25, 2017, 02:05:33 PM
I heard something this morning that really infuriated me. 

A guy wanted to wear pink shoelaces to honor his mother who died of cancer.  The NFL told him no, it was a violation of their dress code. 

Another player wanted to wear a patch on his jersey (or was it helmet) to honor a former teammate who was sick or dying.  The NFL said no.  It was against policy. 

How can the NFL allow players to insult the flag, our veterans and this country by showing their collective asses in the name of "free speech" while simultaneously denying the freedom of speech to others who wanted to honor friends or family. 
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 25, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
I heard something this morning that really infuriated me. 

A guy wanted to wear pink shoelaces to honor his mother who died of cancer.  The NFL told him no, it was a violation of their dress code. 

Another player wanted to wear a patch on his jersey (or was it helmet) to honor a former teammate who was sick or dying.  The NFL said no.  It was against policy. 

How can the NFL allow players to insult the flag, our veterans and this country by showing their collective asses in the name of "free speech" while simultaneously denying the freedom of speech to others who wanted to honor friends or family.


I saw a similar book faces post about the NFL refusing to let players wear 9-11 Never Forget cleats.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUJarhead on September 25, 2017, 02:14:13 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-wont-let-cowboys-wear-decals-supporting-dallas-police-in-regular-season/

From last season...

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NFL won't let Cowboys wear decals supporting Dallas police in regular season

The 'Arm in Arm' decals they wore in training camp were rejected by the league for the regular season

The Dallas Cowboys asked the NFL if the team could wear decals honoring the fallen members of the Dallas Police Department and the NFL, unsurprisingly, said no.

When training camp opened in Oxnard, Calif., earlier this offseason, the Cowboys unveiled "Arm in Arm" helmet decals, designed to pay tribute to the men who lost their lives during the downtown Dallas shooting in July, while also symbolically representing the Cowboys support of the community.

Naturally, the NFL won't let them wear the decals during the regular season.

"Everyone has to be uniform with the league and the other 31 teams," Jerry Jones said Wednesday. "We respect their decision."

It's pretty easy to get upset about the NFL over this. The league has a long history of appearing tone deaf when it comes to letting players and teams support various causes. Brandon Marshall, then with the Bears, was fined more than $10,000 for wearing green shoes to raise awareness for mental-health issues.

Steelers running back DeAngelo Williams wanted to wear pink all season long to honor his mother, who died of breast cancer. The NFL told him no.

But there is, as Jones pointed out, a "Pandora's box" issue at hand. If you let the Cowboys support fallen police officers, you've probably got to let Williams wear pink all season. And if you let him wear pink all season, you probably can't stop [Player X] from wearing [color] for [cause].

"There are so many wonderful, wonderful causes, the league has to be careful," Jones said earlier in camp about the possibility of wearing the decal in games. "If you allow one, then what do you do about every team that has a great reason to have something on their helmets?

"There are tons of things out there that need to be recognized. Once you open that Pandora's box, how do you ever stop?"

The NFL will allow teams to wear patches honoring people who were involved with the team -- the Patriots wore patches honoring Robert Kraft's late wife, Myra, during the 2011 season -- but is pretty strict with its stance about what is allowed in terms of charitable support. The Lions wore a patch to honor their late owner William Clay Ford during the 2014 season.

If the league won't change because of the Cowboys or because of Williams' mom (despite already having an entire month dedicated to breast cancer support), don't expect it to flinch on anything moving forward.

But the Pig Socks that Kaepernick wore were what really did this movement in for me.  It's not about starting a dialog to talk about police brutality.  It's just anti-cop.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 25, 2017, 02:15:27 PM

I saw a similar book faces post about the NFL refusing to let players wear 9-11 Never Forget cleats.

Now I'm really pissed. 

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Here's the problem with this whole thing, though.  Very few people are willing to stand up and speak the truth.  Afraid of being branded a racist or - gasp! - a Trump supporter. 

None of those fuckers even know what they are protesting.  They drive to the stadium in their $100,000 cars, eat food provided for them, wear clothes given to them, make millions provided to them and then have the ignorance and audacity to bitch about "unfairness." 

If they want to change something?  Start a community movement to provide educational opportunities to disadvantaged youth rather than charging $160 for a jersey some kid steals to afford. 
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 25, 2017, 02:16:23 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-wont-let-cowboys-wear-decals-supporting-dallas-police-in-regular-season/

From last season...

But the Pig Socks that Kaepernick wore were what really did this movement in for me.  It's not about starting a dialog to talk about police brutality.  It's just anti-cop.

No, he's anti-America.   

He's radicalized.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 25, 2017, 02:26:41 PM
CHRIST ALMIGHTY. 

I'm watching the press conference. Sarah Huckabee isn't great. 

But that assclown from CNN asking if Trump is trying to provoke a cultural war by "going after" African Americans while praising NASCAR...... 

They are the ones provoking whatever war there is going to be.  And if there is one?  I'm going to that CNN guy's house first. 
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 25, 2017, 03:00:18 PM
I take 3 F-18's and flyover your kneel, bitch.

Didn't they miss the stadium before 2012 A&M game, not a damn thing went right that year.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: The Prowler on September 27, 2017, 02:38:04 PM
The NCAA hasn't started forcing the Universities to show patriotism yet. I'm sure they will eventually.

As for the cancer shoe laces and 9-11 shoes, the NFL has a strict policy about that. Which is why it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission in this case.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: GH2001 on September 27, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
The NCAA hasn't started forcing the Universities to show patriotism yet. I'm sure they will eventually.

As for the cancer shoe laces and 9-11 shoes, the NFL has a strict policy about that. Which is why it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission in this case.

All about Dem monies from the apparel makers.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUChizad on September 27, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
CHRIST ALMIGHTY. 

I'm watching the press conference. Sarah Huckabee isn't great. 

But that assclown from CNN asking if Trump is trying to provoke a cultural war by "going after" African Americans while praising NASCAR...... 

They are the ones provoking whatever war there is going to be.  And if there is one?  I'm going to that CNN guy's house first.
This is particularly dumb since it's insulting the FANS of the NFL which are predominantly white as well.

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Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUChizad on September 27, 2017, 03:35:48 PM
The NCAA hasn't started forcing the Universities to show patriotism yet. I'm sure they will eventually.

As for the cancer shoe laces and 9-11 shoes, the NFL has a strict policy about that. Which is why it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission in this case.
Do you think they'd just roll their eyes and go "Youuuu guyyyyyys" if they wore the pins?

So why isn't every player that knelt getting fined?

Because it's a bad look for the NFL? See K's original point.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: The Prowler on September 27, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
Do you think they'd just roll their eyes and go "Youuuu guyyyyyys" if they wore the pins?

So why isn't every player that knelt getting fined?

Because it's a bad look for the NFL? See K's original point.
You realize that Colin Kaepernick still hasn't been signed by anyone (eventhough he's a better QB than a few starters right now), because "it would be PR suicide".

As for Kaos not knowing what they're peacefully protesting, that doesn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Pell City Tiger on September 27, 2017, 09:21:38 PM
These over valued and under educated ding-dongs are about to learn a valuable business PR lesson: don't shit in the hand that feeds you.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 27, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
You realize that Colin Kaepernick still hasn't been signed by anyone (eventhough he's a better QB than a few starters right now), because "it would be PR suicide".

As for Kaos not knowing what they're peacefully protesting, that doesn't surprise me at all.

They don’t know what they’re protesting ya dumb fuck.   None of them do.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 27, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
You realize that Colin Kaepernick still hasn't been signed by anyone (eventhough he's a better QB than a few starters right now), because "it would be PR suicide".

As for Kaos not knowing what they're peacefully protesting, that doesn't surprise me at all.
Krappernick did well with selling his jerseys, so I guess he probably stayed in the league longer than he would have. If he weren't a PR nightmare, he'd make a good back up QB.

I srsly doubt that most NFL players knew what was being protested until maybe recently. I'm certain the fans don't know the specifics. I've read "race relations", "inequality", etc. But I thought it started with cops shooting unarmed black men.

I don't know and honestly don't think most of the kneelers truly care so much about the cause.

I don't think they deserve the Arthur Ashe award.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 27, 2017, 09:36:38 PM
They don’t know what they’re protesting ya dumb fuck.   None of them do.
^^Maybe this is what I was trying to say, just not so eloquently.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Godfather on September 28, 2017, 09:09:40 AM
You realize that Colin Kaepernick still hasn't been signed by anyone (eventhough he's a better QB than a few starters right now), because "it would be PR suicide".

As for Kaos not knowing what they're peacefully protesting, that doesn't surprise me at all.
and who's fault is that?  It's Kapernicks dumbass for protesting on the job.  Shut the fuck up do your job.  You want to protest after the game, before the game....DO it (i mean outside of the stadium).  You want to throw your money in the #BLM campaign do it....who the fuck cares.  But when you start wearing Castro shirts, spouting he was right and you sit for the flag you deserve what you get.  He's a public figure, they are held to a different standard.

I could walk around my job with a Nazi symbol on my arm....my free right to do so.  I also probably wouldn't have my job very long.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on September 28, 2017, 10:08:42 AM
and who's fault is that?  It's Kapernicks dumbass for protesting on the job.  Shut the fuck up do your job.  You want to protest after the game, before the game....DO it (i mean outside of the stadium).  You want to throw your money in the #BLM campaign do it....who the fuck cares.  But when you start wearing Castro shirts, spouting he was right and you sit for the flag you deserve what you get.  He's a public figure, they are held to a different standard.

I could walk around my job with a Nazi symbol on my arm....my free right to do so.  I also probably wouldn't have my job very long.

And this is what the liberal fucks don't understand.  You have the right do or say all the stupid shit you want to.  Your employer then has the right to fire your ass for doing said stupid shit.

If you don't like playing by someone elses rules, then you need to buy the team/business and run it yourself on your own dime.  Otherwise, shut up and follow the boss' rules
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUChizad on September 28, 2017, 10:09:07 AM
As for Kaos not knowing what they're peacefully protesting, that doesn't surprise me at all.
It doesn't surprise me that the left is pretending this isn't about the thing they clearly, explicitly stated it's about.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/08/colin-kaepernick-49ers-national-anthem-sit-explains/amp
Headline:
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Colin Kaepernick: I won't stand 'to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people'
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUChizad on September 28, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
And this is what the liberal fucks don't understand.  You have the right do or say all the stupid shit you want to.  Your employer then has the right to fire your ass for doing said stupid shit.

If you don't like playing by someone elses rules, then you need to buy the team/business and run it yourself on your own dime.  Otherwise, shut up and follow the boss' rules
They understand and are quite vocal about it when it's someone like Kurt Schilling or James Damore or Brendan Eich.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: AUChizad on September 28, 2017, 10:19:58 AM
You realize that Colin Kaepernick still hasn't been signed by anyone (eventhough he's a better QB than a few starters right now), because "it would be PR suicide".

(https://vgy.me/2b0qe8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: GH2001 on September 28, 2017, 11:28:35 AM
and who's fault is that?  It's Kapernicks dumbass for protesting on the job.  Shut the fuck up do your job.  You want to protest after the game, before the game....DO it (i mean outside of the stadium).  You want to throw your money in the #BLM campaign do it....who the fuck cares.  But when you start wearing Castro shirts, spouting he was right and you sit for the flag you deserve what you get.  He's a public figure, they are held to a different standard.

I could walk around my job with a Nazi symbol on my arm....my free right to do so.  I also probably wouldn't have my job very long.

All of this^^^^
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 28, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
And this is what the liberal fucks don't understand.  You have the right do or say all the stupid shit you want to.  Your employer then has the right to fire your ass for doing said stupid shit.

If you don't like playing by someone elses rules, then you need to buy the team/business and run it yourself on your own dime.  Otherwise, shut up and follow the boss' rules

You can't be oppressed and take reasonability for your actions. Not in the Dem playbook.


Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: The Prowler on September 28, 2017, 07:05:47 PM
and who's fault is that?  It's Kapernicks dumbass for protesting on the job.  Shut the fuck up do your job.  You want to protest after the game, before the game....DO it (i mean outside of the stadium).  You want to throw your money in the #BLM campaign do it....who the fuck cares.  But when you start wearing Castro shirts, spouting he was right and you sit for the flag you deserve what you get.  He's a public figure, they are held to a different standard.

I could walk around my job with a Nazi symbol on my arm....my free right to do so.  I also probably wouldn't have my job very long.
So, protest inequality, just as long as it isn't visible or can't be heard by many people...
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: GH2001 on September 28, 2017, 09:10:33 PM
So, protest inequality, just as long as it isn't visible or can't be heard by many people...
I believe a press conference is visible. I believe the street is visible. Or the Supreme Court steps. Or the Washington mall.

Do you protest or vent out your anger with the system in public while on the clock or in front of the people who pay you?

Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 28, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
I believe a press conference is visible. I believe the street is visible. Or the Supreme Court steps. Or the Washington mall.

Do you protest or vent out your anger with the system in public while on the clock or in front of the people who pay you?

Asking for a friend.

High 5.  Come on, put her there.  High 5.  No?  You left me hanging, bro.  Not cool.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: GH2001 on September 28, 2017, 09:20:52 PM
High 5.  Come on, put her there.  High 5.  No?  You left me hanging, bro.  Not cool.

I'm not rubbing dongs. Maybe after a 6 pack of IPA I could....I mean yeah high 5 man. Put her there.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 28, 2017, 09:27:38 PM
I'm not rubbing dongs. Maybe after a 6 pack of IPA I could....I mean yeah high 5 man. Put her there.

How bout that Bears/Packers game, huh?
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: CCTAU on September 28, 2017, 11:55:36 PM
I'm not rubbing dongs. Maybe after a 6 pack of IPA I could....I mean yeah high 5 man. Put her there.


Hmm. You do know he's a sausage man now, right?
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: chinook on September 29, 2017, 09:54:17 AM

Hmm. You do know he's a sausage man now, right?

He's always been a sausage man...just not yours until, well recently.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 29, 2017, 10:00:09 AM
I love to smoke sausage.  Lots of it.
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: Kaos on September 29, 2017, 10:35:21 AM
They asked Saban about it.  He gave a rambling, barely coherent politically correct answer that didn't come close to saying anything. 

Here's Gus' reply to the question:

"I'm not ready to say this guy's right or that guy's wrong.  I'm not ready to stand up here right now an really tell you with any position that we're ready to say. I'm not really ready to put a timeline on that.  We'll go back, take a look at everything and it's gonna get better. I promise you that.  I think the flag will be more effective if we put it up over the pressbox instead of in the corner of the field, so we're going to make that change. I've got confidence in our guys, we're going to do the right things and our coaches are going to work real hard to make sure we do the things we need to do to be successful. And we're going to be successful.  Our best years are ahead of us. We can all stand up for that. " 
Title: Re: Anthem kneeling in NCAA
Post by: jmar on October 01, 2017, 06:11:51 AM
It's coming to college football if not already here . What do you say if and when it reaches AU?

Hopefully, it doesn't happen but it might.

If AU has a legal right, I say revoke the scholarship. Send them packing.

They have a duty to represent the school in a positive light, so just warn everyone ahead of time. We stand for the anthem.
Are you part of the Troy pipeline funneling wayward Aubs?

Bench 'em first. And you don't even have to call notice to it...just don't let them play.