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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: bgreene on July 23, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
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I was reading the thread about the Foo Fighters and it reminded me of a movie I watched recently on Kurt Cobain. The movie Soaked In Bleach talks about the theory that Cobain was murdered and Courtney Love had something to do with it. This was the first time that I had ever heard that there was even anyone thought it was anything but suicide. Just wondering if any of you have seen this or heard this theory before.
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Kurt GoBang
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The Courtney Love theory surfaced very shortly after the shotgun's smoke cleared.
Kurt was a messed up dude mentally. I think he just took himself out. What a shame. Nirvana kicked ass.
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The Courtney Love theory surfaced very shortly after the shotgun's smoke cleared.
Kurt was a messed up dude mentally. I think he just took himself out. What a shame. Nirvana kicked ass.
What this dude said ^^
Kurt was a talent but dude was screwed up royally. The other members have accepted that as well.
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There's also a new documentary on Cobain that I want to see.
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Soaked in Bleach was on Netflix but has cycled off. The new one is now on there.
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There's also a new documentary on Cobain that I want to see.
Montage of Heck.
Mixed reviews so far.
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Montage of Heck.
Mixed reviews so far.
Have you watched it sir?
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Have you watched it sir?
No, not interested enough to seek it out. If I stumble across it, I'll watch.
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Have you watched it sir?
I have. It was good if you're a fan. Mostly just exclusive home videos, artwork, and recorded diary entries from Kurt.
For a documentary on Kurt's death & Courtney's involvement, watch Kurt & Courtney.
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I have. It was good if you're a fan. Mostly just exclusive home videos, artwork, and recorded diary entries from Kurt.
For a documentary on Kurt's death & Courtney's involvement, watch Kurt & Courtney.
Don't know that I would classify myself as a fan or not, I liked some of their songs... some I did not.
I watched it, I thought it was interesting.
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I have. It was good if you're a fan. Mostly just exclusive home videos, artwork, and recorded diary entries from Kurt.
For a documentary on Kurt's death & Courtney's involvement, watch Kurt & Courtney.
Nirvana may be the only musical act on the planet which I like a lot and yet also think is overrated.
Soundgarden was first. PJ was better and more long term. STP was more stylish. AIC was more grungy and dark.
Nirvana were pioneers and that gateway into mainstream from some underground garage type setting. Music was great. But I dont think they were the end all be all of the genre.
And as youve stated before, that entire decade and genre was a golden era of music indeed.
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Nirvana may be the only musical act on the planet which I like a lot and yet also think is overrated.
Soundgarden was first. PJ was better and more long term. STP was more stylish. AIC was more grungy and dark.
Nirvana were pioneers and that gateway into mainstream from some underground garage type setting. Music was great. But I dont think they were the end all be all of the genre.
And as youve stated before, that entire decade and genre was a golden era of music indeed.
None of them could twist like Chubby Checker.
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None of them could twist like Chubby Checker.
This is true. But I liked them as GH did.
And the best songs of the Unplugged concert (at least those that leave a lasting impression for me) were covers of the Meat Puppets, Leadbelly and Bowie.
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Chad I'm glad your back I'm working out of town this week I'll watch it and drink some craft beer.
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Nirvana may be the only musical act on the planet which I like a lot and yet also think is overrated.
Soundgarden was first. PJ was better and more long term. STP was more stylish. AIC was more grungy and dark.
Nirvana were pioneers and that gateway into mainstream from some underground garage type setting. Music was great. But I dont think they were the end all be all of the genre.
And as youve stated before, that entire decade and genre was a golden era of music indeed.
I agree. I like Nirvana, but PJ to me was a much better group. Nirvana came on scene at the right time and opened the doors for a lot better groups. That decade did have the best music IMO, but that was my coming of age time. I'm sure some of you old bastards would say the same about your own era of music.
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I agree. I like Nirvana, but PJ to me was a much better group. Nirvana came on scene at the right time and opened the doors for a lot better groups. That decade did have the best music IMO, but that was my coming of age time. I'm sure some of you old bastards would say the same about your own era of music.
Who you callin' a bastard?
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I was reading the thread about the Foo Fighters and it reminded me of a movie I watched recently on Kurt Cobain. The movie Soaked In Bleach talks about the theory that Cobain was murdered and Courtney Love had something to do with it. This was the first time that I had ever heard that there was even anyone thought it was anything but suicide. Just wondering if any of you have seen this or heard this theory before.
Watched Soaked in Bleach the other night. Courtney had that sumbitch killed and Kurt was definitely NOT fucked up/depressed according to all the people (less and except Ms. Love) around him.
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Watched Soaked in Bleach the other night. Courtney had that sumbitch killed and Kurt was definitely NOT fucked up/depressed according to all the people (less and except Ms. Love) around him.
I looked it up and see that's a new one. I'll have to give it a watch.
The one I mentioned earlier in this thread drew the same conclusion.
For a documentary on Kurt's death & Courtney's involvement, watch Kurt & Courtney.
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Have you watched it sir?
Finally saw this. Meh. Interesting home movies and journal images, but nothing terribly revealing. Except Courtney's tits...they appear frequently. Unimpressive.
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I agree. I like Nirvana, but PJ to me was a much better group. Nirvana came on scene at the right time and opened the doors for a lot better groups. That decade did have the best music IMO, but that was my coming of age time. I'm sure some of you old bastards would say the same about your own era of music.
Don't necessarily disagree that Pearl Jam was the better band, but that's like saying Stryper had better musicians than KISS. Maybe they did, but the impact of the two was vastly different.
Jeremy was a good song, a little different and so mumbly I don't think anybody knows the words.
Teen Spirit was transformative. That song almost singlehandedly turned the direction of music away from the Poison, Twisted Sister, White Lion, Slaughter, Hanoi Rocks, Bon Jovi, Winger -- and yes, even KISS and Motley Crue -- pop rock that had taken hold in the 80s. It helped change American tastes when it came out in 1991. It helped boost the career of Guns and Roses and it opened the door to Alice in Chains, Seether, Bush, Green Day (bleh), Blink 182 and a whole new musical direction. The day that song hit the airwaves?
This?
(http://www.bragvintage.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/motleycrue.jpg)
It was dead. Dead, dead, dead, dead, dead.
This?
(https://hardrockdaddy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/kiss-tears-are-falling.jpg?w=604&h=510)
Almost overnight became this:
(http://kulick.net/revenge/RevengePhotos/GroupCDback.jpg)
KISS even released an album that matched up well with the sound of the times (and is one of my favorite KISS CDs) but it was overshadowed and overwhelmed by the Reunion Tour and most people have forgotten it.
(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0000/484/MI0000484834.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)
Note the very grunge look and feel. Released in 1997.
This reflects what KISS could have been had it not been trying to be KISS. No silly songs about Gene's dick or Paul's lady maneuvers or any of that. No pop, just strong grunge rock. Very undervalued album and one I hate that most fans missed. I love it.
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It helped boost the career of Guns and Roses
Agree with everything you say, except this one. Didn't Use Your Illusion I and II come out prior to Nevermind? GnR didn't put shit out that was any good after those two albums.
This is about the time I went into boot camp. Went in, and everyone was jacked about the new GNR albums coming out. Get out of Boot, and even the radio station I listed to in New Orleans had changed from glam metal to grunge.
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Agree with everything you say, except this one. Didn't Use Your Illusion I and II come out prior to Nevermind? GnR didn't put shit out that was any good after those two albums.
This is about the time I went into boot camp. Went in, and everyone was jacked about the new GNR albums coming out. Get out of Boot, and even the radio station I listed to in New Orleans had changed from glam metal to grunge.
Nevermind was 1991. Sweet Child didn't really make the heavy rotation until 1989. Not saying GNR wouldn't have been something and I don't remember when illusion came out. Probably wrong but just felt like GNR benefitted from the change in musical climate.
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Nevermind was 1991. Sweet Child didn't really make the heavy rotation until 1989. Not saying GNR wouldn't have been something and I don't remember when illusion came out. Probably wrong but just felt like GNR benefitted from the change in musical climate.
Def wrong.
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Yep I was screaming the lyrics to "Paradise City" in Subic Bay bars in late '88.
Fuck I'm old.
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Yep I was screaming the lyrics to "Paradise City" in Subic Bay bars in late '88.
Fuck I'm old.
Def correct.
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Yep I was screaming the lyrics to "Paradise City" in Subic Bay bars in late '88.
Fuck I'm old.
Seoul South Korea, bar downtown, 4 ladies singing free ride (foghat.) 1980 something.
Flea ride, take it eajey.
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So, they sung in English better than you spell in it.
No, that is how they pronounced it. Here, let me help you out, I was in Korea, the band was Korean, so they had an accent.
Understand?
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No, that is how they pronounced it. Here, let me help you out, I was in Korea, the band was Korean, so they had an accent.
Understand?
That's some bullshit right there. You weren't on MASH. I would have seen it.
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That's some bullshit right there. You weren't on MASH. I would have seen it.
Dude: I am old, but even I ain't that old. :getoff: