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Title: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: The Six on December 03, 2012, 12:43:56 PM
http://247sports.com/Board/59457/Monday-Rumor-Mill-14613169 (http://247sports.com/Board/59457/Monday-Rumor-Mill-14613169).

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* AuburnUndercover reports Auburn has interviewed Gus Malzahn and will interview Kirby Smart and Chad Morris (Clemson's OC). A decision is expected Wednesday.

Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: The Six on December 03, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
Kirby Smart or Chad Morris.

Why do either of those feel like we have become Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, or Mississippi State?   
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 12:53:51 PM
Kirby Smart or Chad Morris.

Why do either of those feel like we have become Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, or Mississippi State?

We can't expect to rise to those heights so soon.  After all, we were Ole Miss' Homecoming game this year.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on December 03, 2012, 01:07:15 PM
Kirby Smart

I could warm to Smart.  Of all the coordinators, I think he's the  most qualified. 

However, if we are down to the coordinators on our list, it means we either didn't interview, or were rejected by, much more qualified people.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2012, 01:13:54 PM
I could warm to Smart.  Of all the coordinators, I think he's the  most qualified. 

However, if we are down to the coordinators on our list, it means we either didn't interview, or were rejected by, much more qualified people.

Why? 

What has Kirby Smart done to warrant any excitement at all? 

He's gotten zero press.  Will Muschamp was a hot head who would bring fire, intensity, and energy to his team.

What is Kirby Smart going to bring besides being next to Nick Saban all game long?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2012, 01:13:58 PM
I think Smart stays put at Bama, and gets a sizeable raise.  I hope that behind the scenes there is a "coach in waiting" type thing going on.  Saban only has another 3 years left at the most probably.  If Smart were to go to AU, that would be a big blow to Alabama as far as coaches, and recruits.  According to Tidesports, AU has requested permission to speak to Smart, but TS hasn't confirmed whether an interview has been setup. 

I know that most AU fans want a proven rock star coach, but I think Smart could do well at AU.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on December 03, 2012, 01:22:40 PM
Why? 

What has Kirby Smart done to warrant any excitement at all? 

He's gotten zero press.  Will Muschamp was a hot head who would bring fire, intensity, and energy to his team.

What is Kirby Smart going to bring besides being next to Nick Saban all game long?

Compared to Malzhan and Morris?  Smart is like Vince Lombardi.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: The Six on December 03, 2012, 01:26:16 PM
Compared to Malzhan and Morris?  Smart is like Vince Lombardi.

Malzhan's been a head coach and won his league and going to a bowl. Morris? He's guided an offense for a team with not much defense and he's whipped our cans a couple times. Smart? He's survived working with Saban longer than most so I suppose that's something but I, like RWS, think he stays put.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on December 03, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
Malzhan's been a head coach and won his league and going to a bowl. Morris? He's guided an offense for a team with not much defense and he's whipped our cans a couple times. Smart? He's survived working with Saban longer than most so I suppose that's something but I, like RWS, think he stays put.

Three years ago, Morris was coaching High School.  Three.  Do you really want a guy who could be recruiting people he coached when they were freshmen to be the head of your program?

And kicking Auburn's ass?  Nothing to write home about.

Malzhan?  Meh.  Thanks for 2010.  But what about the other ass kickings, when we didn't have Cam?

I would take Smart over Malzhan and Morris no question.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2012, 01:34:16 PM
I think that another thing that worries me is that if Smart somehow ended up at AU, I would imagine he's bringing a variation of Saban's defense with him.  He knows it inside out.  Saban has stated numerous times that he lets Smart run it totally because he is that good, and they share the same philosophies.  I don't want that at Auburn.  I think that you would see a huge dropoff in Alabama's defense.  The only downside for AU is that it would take a few years to get the right guys in to run that defense. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 01:37:16 PM
He's not my first choice by any means but I could get behind Malzahn.  9-3 in his first year as a head coach.  Scored 36 a game and gave up 25.  Not great numbers on paper but a little skewed by giving up 57 to Oregon and 42 to Nebraska. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Smart and Morris are 2nd options. Arky has been turned down by 5 coaches already. This is why you interview 6-7 people for process sake. I wouldn't get my panties in a wad over Morris being interviewed.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2012, 01:42:08 PM
Meh on all three. Fuck this shit.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
Meh on all three. Fuck this shit.

Bank on this: if one of those 3 gets it, it's because someone else turned it down.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
Bank on this: if one of those 3 gets it, it's because someone else turned it down.

And that someone else is?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: chinook on December 03, 2012, 01:50:52 PM
i have a friend who's sister goes to OSU...she mentioned that a friend of a friend saw the auburn  jet in corvalis.  Riley?

tifwiw
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2012, 01:54:19 PM
I agree that Malzahn > the other two.

Fuck Smart. Do Not Want. Overrated like everything that touches that school. And even if he's not overrated as a DC? It has no bearing on how he'll be as a HC. Have we learned nothing from the Chizik hire?

Malzahn at least won his conference (by a blowout in the championship, no less) in his first year as an actual HC.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2012, 01:56:21 PM
By the way, it is being widely reported that Petrino has not been interviewed.

It is also being widely reported that we will hear who our new head coach will be on Wednesday.

These two things combined = JacobsFail.gif
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 01:58:26 PM
Why? 

What has Kirby Smart done to warrant any excitement at all? 

He's gotten zero press.  Will Muschamp was a hot head who would bring fire, intensity, and energy to his team.

What is Kirby Smart going to bring besides being next to Nick Saban all game long?
My answer would that he brings everything that you would want to the table with the exception Of HC experience. That's a pretty big exception I will grant thee. Otherwise, he's played and coached on a high level. He's been the right hand man of the "the man" considered the best in the business by many. If we don't get him, thuga prob does within next 5. I think he will be successful somewhere. We have (or had) a stellar defensive class that would likely stay together with a Smart hire, IMO.

Patterson higher on my list but I wouldn't mind Smart. I am getting to the point though that I just want a coach. I think it's Petrino or Gus.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: chinook on December 03, 2012, 02:00:58 PM
My answer would that he brings everything that you would want to the table with the exception Of HC experience. That's a pretty big exception I will grant thee. Otherwise, he's played and coached on a high level. He's been the right hand man of the "the man" considered the best in the business by many. If we don't get him, thuga prob does within next 5. I think he will be successful somewhere. We have (or had) a stellar defensive class that would likely stay together with a Smart hire, IMO.

Patterson higher on my list but I wouldn't mind Smart. I am getting to the point though that I just want a coach. I think it's Petrino or Gus.

i take everything back i said about you.  i agree. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
i take everything back i said about you.  i agree.
I am glad we can all just get along. Christmas spirit and all.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 02:09:31 PM
I am glad we can all just get along. Christmas spirit and all.

Fuck you.  There, I feel better. 

I get what you're saying about Smart.  Chances are, he'd do well as HC.  There's just that part of me that says we have to have someone who has been there, done that.  He comes in and we know exactly what we're getting.  No excuses.  No unknowns.  I will say though, whoever it is, short of some head scratching 5-19 fail, I'm ready to name him and get behind him like Sandusky.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 02:19:22 PM
i have a friend who's sister goes to OSU...she mentioned that a friend of a friend saw the auburn  jet in corvalis.  Riley?

tifwiw

Mike Riley is 59 y.o. and is 81-66 at OSU. They say he really loves his Beavers.  Kind of tough love.  He rides them til they're soaking wet.   
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
fudge you.  There, I feel better. 

I get what you're saying about Smart.  Chances are, he'd do well as HC.  There's just that part of me that says we have to have someone who has been there, done that.  He comes in and we know exactly what we're getting.  No excuses.  No unknowns.  I will say though, whoever it is, short of some head scratching 5-19 fail, I'm ready to name him and get behind him like Sandusky.
I would like a seasoned veteran too. When Jimbo and Petrino are the most tenured HCs from this region of the country, it's a pretty slack year. I have under panties that are older than their HC stints.

I don't know that we can afford to get Patterson. It looks to me that Gus, Petrino and Smart are the most viable options. I've never liked Petrino. I think he's a stubby dick with ears. But of the 3, he has the best resume.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 03, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
Why play for an unproven, young, inexperienced, side kick to Nick Saban at a struggling program when you could play for Nick Saban? 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 03:00:12 PM
Why play for an unproven, young, inexperienced, side kick to Nick Saban at a struggling program when you could play for Nick Saban?
I don't know but the UF recruits don't seem to mind. Just heard that Bobby P's brother took job in Idaho. Can someone confirm? I'm too busy snorting crank off a hookers ass.

If he did, does this lend one to believe Bobby ain't coaching this year? Does to me.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2012, 03:01:31 PM
I don't know but the UF recruits don't seem to mind. Just heard that Bobby P's brother took job in Idaho. Can someone confirm? I'm too busy snorting crank off a hookers ass.

If he did, does this lend one to believe Bobby ain't coaching this year? Does to me.
He did. Saw that over the weekend.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 03, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 04:25:30 PM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...

I have wood.

If they did name Smart, I think it would be with the stipulation he hits the ground running immediately.  Most people say it's Lord Saybinz making the defensive calls anyway.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 03, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...
The only thing better would be if he stayed at uat and intentionally sabotaged their defensive gameplan.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: dallaswareagle on December 03, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...

With our workout regiment lately he may hurt them.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...
If it is Smart, it would prob have to take place like this. I don't see us or Satan wanting it any other way. I still can't wrap my turnip around this ever happening. This would be a bigger deal than Pat Dye or assistants Wayne Hall and Brother Oliver put together. If its between Gus and Smart, I am all tored up about it. I see them as pretty even.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 03, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.   
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2012, 04:54:13 PM
If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.

This, all of it!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2012, 05:06:01 PM
If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.
This....

But give me Smart over Malzahn, Dykes, Taggert, and all the other no names.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 03, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
This....

But give me Smart over Malzahn, Dykes, Taggert, and all the other no names.

Very much so.  I can get behind him.  This is part of the problem and like I said I think he will be a good coach, but are we willing to give him time to un-fuck our situation and learn on the job. 

I would imagine that we would be moving to a 3-4 and that would take some time and recruiting classes.  If he doesn't have us winning immediately are we (fans, AD, BOT..etc...etc...etc) willing to give him the time he would need?  Also do we have the balls enough to write up in his contract that he owes us mega millions if he were to walk out the door for the UGA job if it came open in the next two to three years?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.
Good point. The discipline issue is one that I hadn't considered. I hate that it has to affect Gus but it just does.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 05:27:49 PM
No one knows how tied Gus' hands were. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: The Prowler on December 03, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
So, let's see...Hmmmmm...Malzahn, Smart or Morris.....Mmmmmm....Huh....Hmmmm...I'll go with......Ahhhhh.....Hmmmm.....I'll go with *whispers* there's so many great choices, this is a hard one....I chose...





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Fuck You; Jay Jacobs, Jay Gogue, and whoever else made this decision (Pat Dye)!!!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
I agree Prowley, 100%.

I honestly think Smart will be a good HC.  My problem is can we afford to take the chance if he is not?

This is the biggest problem I have.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 05:42:54 PM
No one knows how tied Gus' hands were.
Sounds kinky.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
I agree Prowley, 100%.

I honestly think Smart will be a good HC.  My problem is can we afford to take the chance if he is not?

This is the biggest problem I have.

Come on, be honest.  That's not nearly the biggest problem you have.  Fortunately, they have drugs that won't toally clear that up but make it very manageable.

Between those choices, I'm on the Gus bus.  I seriously think the problems with this program come back to roost at one guy's doorstep.  Gene Chizik.  Do we know that Gus Malzahn was able to do things the way he wanted to do them?  Was he allowed to?  Chizik told him to fuck up his offense.  He changed all of Lefftlerz shit as well.  Chizik is solely responsible for non-mandatory workouts.  He's solely responsible for how they practice and how they're disciplined. 

I now believe none of the coaches we've had were able to handle their business the way they wanted to.  That includes one Theodore Roof.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 03, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
Come on, be honest.  That's not nearly the biggest problem you have.  Fortunately, they have drugs that won't toally clear that up but make it very manageable.

Between those choices, I'm on the Gus bus.  I seriously think the problems with this program come back to roost at one guy's doorstep.  Gene Chizik.  Do we know that Gus Malzahn was able to do things the way he wanted to do them?  Was he allowed to?  Chizik told him to fuck up his offense.  He changed all of Lefftlerz shit as well.  Chizik is solely responsible for non-mandatory workouts.  He's solely responsible for how they practice and how they're disciplined. 

I now believe none of the coaches we've had were able to handle their business the way they wanted to.  That includes one Theodore Roof.
Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Pell City Tiger on December 03, 2012, 06:44:21 PM
If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.
Gus signed Pistol Pete Dyer after he was kicked out of Auburn. Like Rob Pate said, this tells me all I need to know about Gus's ability to handle disciplinary issues.

We just went through enough of this shit for me. No thank you.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 03, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB.

Went from the watered down version of the Tubershell in 2008 to a record setting offense in 2009.  Tailored his offense in 2010 to Cam's strengths, and the rest is in the history books.  The 2011 offense was doing well until one Eugene Chizik tied his hands in the locker room at Clemson.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on December 03, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB.

Anybody that can score points, much less win with Mosely and Trotter as QB's is a pretty good offensive coach.  I could get behind a Gus hire.

Yes he let Dyer go to Arky State, gave him a 20th chance and kicked him off the team immediately upon fucking up.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2012, 08:36:57 PM
Went from the watered down version of the Tubershell in 2008 to a record setting offense in 2009.  Tailored his offense in 2010 to Cam's strengths, and the rest is in the history books.  The 2011 offense was doing well until one Eugene Chizik tied his hands in the locker room at Clemson.

Nobody told you to stick your nose into this.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 03, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
Nobody told you to stick your nose into this.

Oh yeah? Well then just suck...wait, I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
Oh yeah? Well then just suck...wait, I see what you did there.

KILL ME!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 03, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
Gonna pull a Kaos here and tell you, hiring Gus would be a cluster fuck of epic proportions.  He knows these kids, recruited a lot of them and was there for 3 years.  When/if he tries to unpussify our kids they won't take him serious.  So we will either stay a pussified undisciplined team or  he will send so many packing that we will playing with probation numbers.  Hear me now........
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: WiregrassTiger on December 03, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
Gonna pull a Kaos here and tell you, hiring Gus would be a cluster fudge of epic proportions.  He knows these kids, recruited a lot of them and was there for 3 years.  When/if he tries to unpussify our kids they won't take him serious.  So we will either stay a pussified undisciplined team or  he will send so many packing that we will playing with probation numbers.  Hear me now........
I wouldn't argue this. I've read that the discipline issues were a part of the reason Gus left. He wanted Chiz to do something about them to no avail. I don't know if he has what it takes to lay it on the line and turn them into real football players or not. I hate that the lack of discipline is associated with him regardless of his contribution to it.

If it's not him (and your scenario may very well play in the minds of the committe), then the remaining "talked about" candidate is Smart.

I'm going out on a limb and saying we won't pay Patterson's price. Pretty sure it takes over 4 mil to even make him raise an eyebrow. I like him but that's a lot of green when we could likely get Smart or Malzahn for 2.5.

There is likely no homerun hire. Maybe Petrino but he may not even be interviewed and my skreetz had him as already having the job. I bet we could get him for a lot less than 4 mil.

Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2012, 08:07:18 AM
If Twitter is to be believed, we've already hired Smart.

It has also been reported that Patterson has signed an extension to stay at TCU.

Fuck you, Jay Jacobs.

This was our shot. We're 3-9. Absolutely zero risk can be taken. You completely fucked the last hire up on a gamble, and you go for the guy with zero head coaching experience, but by gawd, Saban hired him as a DC.

We are destined to mire in mediocrity. We can't get away from the good ol' boy bullshit. They want a puppet instead of a proven head coach. I know the Dye meddling is supposedly overstated, but it looks like he will get his man this time.

We are our own worst enemy. I expect to be below .500 for a good five years now. Maybe forever.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Saniflush on December 04, 2012, 08:10:52 AM
I know the Dye meddling is supposedly overstated, but it looks like he will get his man this time.


Per the Warden, Dye has not set foot in Auburn to ensure that the bullshit rumors of him controlling the hiring process did not surface again.

TIFWIW
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 08:50:49 AM
I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus.  You can blame Chizik 100% for Auburn's failures but Chizik was not 100% to blame.  Even if you think that Chizik did handicap Gus.  Was he also involved in who Gus wanted to recruit?  I have no idea if Gus can recruit and/or develop players.  We are in our 4th year of less then mediocre QB's and outside of Juco Superstar Thug, all of them were recruited by Gus. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on December 04, 2012, 09:03:50 AM
Not physically.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but Dye's been all over Kirby's nuts through his drunken senile ramblings on Finebaum since before Chizik was gone.

Seems an awful lot like he's getting his way...
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: noxin on December 04, 2012, 09:13:33 AM
I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus. 

How's it handling?  You know, I'm in charge of the assembly line that pumps those things out.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2012, 09:27:15 AM
Not physically.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but Dye's been all over Kirby's nuts through his drunken senile ramblings on Finebaum since before Chizik was gone.

Seems an awful lot like he's getting his way...

This
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 04, 2012, 09:40:25 AM
I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus.  You can blame Chizik 100% for Auburn's failures but Chizik was not 100% to blame.  Even if you think that Chizik did handicap Gus.  Was he also involved in who Gus wanted to recruit?  I have no idea if Gus can recruit and/or develop players.  We are in our 4th year of less then mediocre QB's and outside of Juco Superstar Thug, all of them were recruited by Gus.

Gus still isn't proven regardless of his wins this year. He has to win with his own recruits before I jump on dat.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
How's it handling?  You know, I'm in charge of the assembly line that pumps those things out.

I am getting a little nervous, I keep trying to hit pick up Jacobs but the damn brakes seem to work.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: CCTAU on December 04, 2012, 09:45:25 AM
I am getting a little nervous, I keep trying to hit pick up Jacobs but the damn brakes seem to work.

You must be driving beside the cliff. Just aim the damn thing toward the cliff. At least you'll hit JJ.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2012, 09:47:49 AM
Gus still isn't proven regardless of his wins this year. He has to win with his own recruits before I jump on dat.

Moreso than Smart.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AWK on December 04, 2012, 11:00:59 AM
Fucking sigh...
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: CCTAU on December 04, 2012, 11:12:27 AM
Fucking sigh...

Why don't you go get your nails done, honey. The men are discussing things here!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on December 04, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
Fucking sigh...

Is that like a sigh of passion?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 04, 2012, 11:22:17 AM
Moreso than Smart.

You have a valid point, however, Smart has built a hell of a defense and we all know it takes a GREAT defense to win in the SEC. CGM's spread, while it would be nice to have, is ineffective against SEC teams due to the fact that defenses are starting to man up against that threat. Sure, aTm used it effectively against SPUAT, but without a mobile QB (Johnny Football) aTm loses that game. We saw it in 2010 with Cam. I personally believe the best defensive minds will win out in the future of the SEC. Those individuals who can adapt and overcome the spread attack will be the winners. JMO.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: CCTAU on December 04, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
You have a valid point, however, Smart has built a hell of a defense and we all know it takes a GREAT defense to win in the SEC. CGM's spread, while it would be nice to have, is ineffective against SEC teams due to the fact that defenses are starting to man up against that threat. Sure, aTm used it effectively against SPUAT, but without a mobile QB (Johnny Football) aTm loses that game. We saw it in 2010 with Cam. I personally believe the best defensive minds will win out in the future of the SEC. Those individuals who can adapt and overcome the spread attack will be the winners. JMO.

Chizik had great defenses too. Unfortunately he did not hire himself to coach the defense!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AWK on December 04, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Why don't you go get your nails done, honey. The men are discussing things here!
I didn't know men had vaginas.  My bad.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AWK on December 04, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
Is that like a sigh of passion?
It's a sigh of realization, knowing that we are inevitably doomed to fuck the coaching search up...and be in the same position 4 years from now. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: CCTAU on December 04, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
I didn't know men had vaginas.  My bad.

Drop trow. Stand in front of the mirror and look down. There you will find your answer.

Get one of those franch manikures. They are cute.

Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 12:02:36 PM
Fucking sigh...
Go buy a WDI shirt
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 12:03:36 PM
It's a sigh of realization, knowing that we are inevitably doomed to fuck the coaching search up...and be in the same position 4 years from now.
Did I not say this like 2 weeks ago?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 04, 2012, 12:57:17 PM
I didn't know men had vaginas.  My bad.

Manginas.
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30172342.jpg)(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l499/velvetminxx5/Picture57.png)
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AWK on December 04, 2012, 01:27:29 PM
Drop trow. Stand in front of the mirror and look down. There you will find your answer.

Get one of those franch manikures. They are cute.
I'll get right at that mein Fuhrer.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 04, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
I am getting a little nervous, I keep trying to hit pick up Jacobs but the damn brakes seem to work.
Trash your brakes and take him out, even if it takes you with him.  We are willing to accept that.  Make yourself a martyr to the cause, and I guarantee we will lift glasses of mead to you at every X tailgate in memory of your sacrifice for the greater good.  You'll find that Amanda chick naked and waiting for you on the other side... your nuts will be firmly back in place, and the John Thomas will be primed and ready to go.

Peace, brother.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 04, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
Trash your brakes and take him out, even if it takes you with him.  We are willing to accept that.  Make yourself a martyr to the cause, and I guarantee we will lift glasses of mead to you at every X tailgate in memory of your sacrifice for the greater good.  You'll find that Amanda chick naked and waiting for you on the other side... your nuts will be firmly back in place, and the John Thomas will be primed and ready to go.

Peace, brother.

Not to mention the 72 virgins...oh wait, wrong cause.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 01:33:24 PM
Trash your brakes and take him out, even if it takes you with him.  We are willing to accept that.  Make yourself a martyr to the cause, and I guarantee we will lift glasses of mead to you at every X tailgate in memory of your sacrifice for the greater good.  You'll find that Amanda chick naked and waiting for you on the other side... your nuts will be firmly back in place, and the John Thomas will be primed and ready to go.

Peace, brother.
WTF...How do you confuse me with Snaggle.  Now I'm PISSED!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 04, 2012, 01:44:15 PM
WTF...How do you confuse me with Snaggle.  Now I'm PISSED!

Calm down, dude.  Posting from an iPhone.  Tiny screen.  Old woman eyes.  Sheesh. 

Apparently the nutless comment is still spot on. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Godfather on December 04, 2012, 01:48:28 PM
Calm down, dude.  Posting from an iPhone.  Tiny screen.  Old woman eyes.  Sheesh. 

Apparently the nutless comment is still spot on.
Pffffftttt  Objects in mirror appear bigger then....wait no thats not right.  I have huge balls.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on December 04, 2012, 01:58:05 PM
Pffffftttt  Objects in mirror appear bigger then....wait no thats not right.  I have huge balls.

And a big e penis too. Don't forget the e penis.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: HSVBeerNerd on December 04, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
Pffffftttt  Objects in mirror appear bigger then....wait no thats not right.  I have huge balls.

(http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_14/sp_1403_clip10.jpg)
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 18, 2016, 09:02:42 AM
For the record, my choice would be Petrino 1, Smart 2.

It depends on what philosophy you want really. Petrino for offense. Smart for defense.

Smart could be as good or better than boom. And, it would piss Alabama fans off to have Smart announced before the championship.

Smart moves to number 1 if he is announced this week, holds a press conference and declares, "I am an Auburn man now. Auburn is my only focus and I will not coach another game or put forth any more effort to help the University of Alabama."

Then he walks off the stage to where Liner, Lawson and Foster are sitting and gives them a chest bump...

Bump
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: wesfau2 on September 18, 2016, 09:05:22 AM
Bump

Smart can continue to eat a bag of dicks.

Still want Petrino.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on September 18, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
Smart can continue to eat a bag of dicks.

Still want Petrino.

Yep.

But I think that is a lost cause now.

But I would take UL AD...
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on September 18, 2016, 09:09:43 AM
Gonna pull a Kaos here and tell you, hiring Gus would be a cluster fuck of epic proportions.  He knows these kids, recruited a lot of them and was there for 3 years.  When/if he tries to unpussify our kids they won't take him serious.  So we will either stay a pussified undisciplined team or  he will send so many packing that we will playing with probation numbers.  Hear me now........

And damn.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on September 18, 2016, 09:11:33 AM
Smart can continue to eat a bag of dicks.

Still want Petrino.

Yep. All of it. But good luck convincing the holier than thous in the fanbase. I think that ship done sailed for him. Maybe Herman or Briles (pending the full details of what went on at Baylor). People really need to quit the pipe dreaming with Shaw, Gundy and Franklin. I think the Patterson ship sailed as well.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: wesfau2 on September 18, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
Yep. All of it. But good luck convincing the holier than thous in the fanbase. I think that ship done sailed for him. Maybe Herman or Briles (pending the full details of what went on at Baylor). People really need to quit the pipe dreaming with Shaw, Gundy and Franklin. I think the Patterson ship sailed as well.

Briles should be a non-starter.  We can't handle that baggage.

Who the fuck is pining for James Franklin?

Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on September 18, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
Briles should be a non-starter.  We can't handle that baggage.

Who the fuck is pining for James Franklin?

"Other" boards with people who are clueless.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on September 18, 2016, 09:34:16 AM
Who the fudge is pining for James Franklin?

Penn State fans who hope they don't have to pay a buyout.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 18, 2016, 08:07:57 PM
www.hireturnergill.com
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: The Six on September 18, 2016, 08:14:27 PM
www.hireturnergill.com

His buyout from Liberty is $20, a five-pack of Hubba Bubba, and four baptisms. Not sure we can swing it.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 18, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
www.hireturnergill.com

Now, that shit's funny right there.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on September 19, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Tom. Herman. The. End.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on September 19, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
Tom. Herman. The. End.

Pretty much. And would be great. But we have Jay. Would shock the ever living shit out of me if he made that good of a hire in football. Of course Pearl was a shock too but still.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Kaos on September 19, 2016, 10:49:33 AM
If we beat LSU this weekend the ice under Miles will crack.  They will pursue Herman and as sad as it makes me to say this, theirs is the better job. 
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on September 19, 2016, 10:49:56 AM
Pretty much. And would be great. But we have Jay. Would shock the ever living shit out of me if he made that good of a hire in football. Of course Pearl was a shock too but still.
I know everyone hates Jacobs. The extension was stupid and the throwing cash at the jumbotron was stupid.

Pearl was a homerun and so was Meyers.

Calling the Gus hire idiotic is 50/50 hindsight as Dye would say, IMO.

I'm not defending Jacobs or in love with him, I just have a little more nuanced opinion of him than the majority of Auburn fans.

Would Herman slum it at Auburn? That's another more valid question.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUChizad on September 19, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
If we beat LSU this weekend the ice under Miles will crack.  They will pursue Herman and as sad as it makes me to say this, theirs is the better job.
That's my biggest fear as well.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: GH2001 on September 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AM
I know everyone hates Jacobs. The extension was stupid and the throwing cash at the jumbotron was stupid.

Pearl was a homerun and so was Meyers.

Calling the Gus hire idiotic is 50/50 hindsight as Dye would say, IMO.

I'm not defending Jacobs or in love with him, I just have a little more nuanced opinion of him than the majority of Auburn fans.

Would Herman slum it at Auburn? That's another more valid question.

Coaches that do what he does with 2 star talent salivate over what that can do with elite level talent. Between that and a raise, yes he would. But K made a point to what the biggest hinderance will be: LSU.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on September 19, 2016, 11:20:22 AM
I know everyone hates Jacobs. The extension was stupid and the throwing cash at the jumbotron was stupid.

Pearl was a homerun and so was Meyers.

Calling the Gus hire idiotic is 50/50 hindsight as Dye would say, IMO.

I'm not defending Jacobs or in love with him, I just have a little more nuanced opinion of him than the majority of Auburn fans.

Would Herman slum it at Auburn? That's another more valid question.

Pearl was the most obvious hire in the history of NCAA Basketball Hires.  And Myers wanted to be close to B'Ham, another no brainer. 

Jury is out on Thompson for baseball.  His other baseball hires have been a joke.

Women's Basketball?  I'll give you a jury still out on this hire.

Swimming?  This past Olympics just cemented to me how far we've fallen in Swimming.

All of the success that we've had in sports like Soccer and Equestrian came from coaches who were at Auburn prior to Jacobs taking the job.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 19, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
Pearl was the most obvious hire in the history of NCAA Basketball Hires.  And Myers wanted to be close to B'Ham, another no brainer. 

Jury is out on Thompson for baseball.  His other baseball hires have been a joke.

Women's Basketball?  I'll give you a jury still out on this hire.

Swimming?  This past Olympics just cemented to me how far we've fallen in Swimming.

All of the success that we've had in sports like Soccer and Equestrian came from coaches who were at Auburn prior to Jacobs taking the job.

Damn it.  We've got the Transformers Megatron XL Jumbo Widescreen 6,000.  What else do you want from the man?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on September 19, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
Damn it.  We've got the Transformers Megatron XL Jumbo Widescreen 6,000.  What else do you want from the man?

To choke on a bag o'dicks?
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 19, 2016, 11:29:11 AM
To choke on a bag o'dicks?

Well, then there's that.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: AUJarhead on September 19, 2016, 11:29:53 AM
Well, then there's that.

I take that back.

I want him to become Alabama's AD.
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 19, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
Bbbut, the game ball was delivered by an amazon.com drone!  Come on peoples!
Title: Re: Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?
Post by: jmar on September 19, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Damn it.  We've got the Transformers Megatron XL Jumbo Widescreen 6,000.  What else do you want from the man?
JJ says: It's huuuugh! What's not to like? Amirite?


Oh...wrong thread.