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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on October 11, 2011, 09:41:41 PM

Title: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Kaos on October 11, 2011, 09:41:41 PM
Evan Doucheberry apparently asked Trotter if he'd gotten any negative reaction to his play last week. 

"No comment" was the response. 

That ignited a freak out on one of the "Wave the Creed" boards which included commentary from Frazier's dad. 

Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: AWK on October 11, 2011, 09:50:54 PM
Evan Doucheberry apparently asked Trotter if he'd gotten any negative reaction to his play last week. 

"No comment" was the response. 

That ignited a freak out on one of the "Wave the Creed" boards which included commentary from Frazier's dad.
Pleased to be posting...
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Kaos on October 11, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
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I an going to go ahead and say this also.

I think the world of Barrett Trotter and his family. They are members in good standing of the Fearless and True Auburn Family. Thus making them members of MY family. 

My son has competed directly in line Barrett for a role on this team.

That does NOT make him an enemy. That makes Barrett a brother. PERIOD.

So saying that message boards are created for peoples opinions ...no matter how uneducated they are. So I will not pu

 to task anyone for their opinion. 

BUT...if you approach me or my Son trying to run down one of our family members you will garner a serious talking to from me like the young man did Saturday evening.

We either are family or we are not. I wont tolerate the berating.

Thanksfor listening.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 11, 2011, 10:17:42 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: The Prowler on October 11, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
LMAO!!! The Bandwagon Fans should be almost through.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: The Prowler on October 11, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
Barrett was horrible last Saturday night, Kiehl Frazier was good when he ran, not so much when he threw the ball. I'm sure they feel the exact same, probably worse. I told Kiehl to keep his head up and to correctly correct the mistakes that were made.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: AWK on October 11, 2011, 11:30:48 PM
Barrett was horrible last Saturday night, Kiehl Frazier was good when he ran, not so much when he threw the ball. I'm sure they feel the exact same, probably worse. I told Kiehl to keep his head up and to correctly correct the mistakes that were made.
You were on the field after the game?  Or you have his email?

Also, Kiehl's Dad needs to learn to type.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 11, 2011, 11:40:45 PM
Exactly how would one incorrectly correct a mistake? 
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: AWK on October 11, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Exactly how would one incorrectly correct a mistake?
Correctly.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: CCTAU on October 12, 2011, 12:15:23 AM
Exactly how would one incorrectly correct a mistake?

With perfect practice!
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: The Prowler on October 12, 2011, 12:42:11 AM
With perfect practice!
That and with constant film & playbook study.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: djsimp on October 12, 2011, 09:00:45 AM
With perfect practice!

PRACTICE!!!???
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 12, 2011, 10:15:31 AM
As hard as it would be for me, if I had a son playing football at Auburn (please, oh please lord!!!)...especially at QB...I would stay the fuck off the message board. Nothing good can come of what you are reading. And damn sure nothing good can come of what you respond.

You can try to be as rational as you want to, but you are trying to rationalize with a bunch of people that either 1. don't know what they are talking about or 2. don't want to be anywhere close to being rational because they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

I have been on the "trotter should sit" train since game 1. But I also know that I don't know what the coaches know.

The problem I have IS with the coaches. Not with Trotter. Either 1 of 2 things should happen:
1. Develop Trotter and let him play the kind of game that he is "supposedly" built to play. Meaning the same type of game that Todd played in '09. (Which I don't think will work, but I think would work better than the bullshit we put out on the field Saturday)

or

2. Be an option team and NEVER let Trotter see the field.

DO NOT be an option team and let Trotter in the game just to hand the god damn ball off. That makes no sense to me what so ever...
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: JR4AU on October 12, 2011, 10:17:31 AM

You can try to be as rational as you want to, but you are trying to rationalize with a bunch of people that either 1. don't know what they are talking about or 2. don't want to be anywhere close to being rational because they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.



Winnah winnah, chicken dinnah!  Trotter still sux though. 
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 12, 2011, 06:05:24 PM
Trotter still sux though.
True, but he has the best looking beard in the SEC.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: jmar on October 12, 2011, 08:56:14 PM
We aren't running the No Huddle offense as it was first installed. Todd couldn't pull off this run/pass option much better than Trotter. The surprise factor has been lost without the motion to accompany the pace. It opened up the field.  We look as if we are trying to run Cam's version with Trotter and that IS NOT TROTTER'S FAULT.

Cam was able to overcome the speed factor before mid-season but the offense suited his style of play. I think Frazier needs to be turned loose and run the offense for longer periods because there is no way for a QB to get in a rythym when he has to run on and off the field constantly, and it shows. And I'm already sick of the camera panning to Gus waving them in after a failure.     

And then of course the Spring brings us Zeke Pike and the circus is back in town. Finish the year out and hire a QB tutor young man...because you're gonna need one. Even so I'm guessing they will want him to redshirt.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: JR4AU on October 12, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
We aren't running the No Huddle offense as it was first installed. Todd couldn't pull off this run/pass option much better than Trotter. The surprise factor has been lost without the motion to accompany the pace. It opened up the field.  We look as if we are trying to run Cam's version with Trotter and that IS NOT TROTTER'S FAULT.



 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: GH2001 on October 12, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
We aren't running the No Huddle offense as it was first installed. Todd couldn't pull off this run/pass option much better than Trotter. The surprise factor has been lost without the motion to accompany the pace. It opened up the field.  We look as if we are trying to run Cam's version with Trotter and that IS NOT TROTTER'S FAULT.

Cam was able to overcome the speed factor before mid-season but the offense suited his style of play. I think Frazier needs to be turned loose and run the offense for longer periods because there is no way for a QB to get in a rythym when he has to run on and off the field constantly, and it shows. And I'm already sick of the camera panning to Gus waving them in after a failure.     

And then of course the Spring brings us Zeke Pike and the circus is back in town. Finish the year out and hire a QB tutor young man...because you're gonna need one. Even so I'm guessing they will want him to redshirt.

Even the most vocal Trotter supporters are now onboard. You're going down with the ship I see. The USS Trotter is sinking.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: jmar on October 13, 2011, 01:58:15 AM
Even the most vocal Trotter supporters are now onboard. You're going down with the ship I see. The USS Trotter is sinking.
I can't help it GH. The coaches made the statement that they intended to put players in a position where they could succeed. And this is simply not the case with Trotter. He can run the Todd version of the N.H. but that hasn't been an option.
This is exactly as it appears, a band aid of sorts until Frazier is ready. I don't have a problem with that. But Trotter was named the starter under the assumption that he won the job. He has now become the whipping boy for the fans with his increasingly poor play. "The packages" for Frazier are QB draws that Trotter can't execute.   

I think Malzahn is as good a play caller as there is in cfb, great offensive mind, but why can't we throw it? Why can't we run any kind of pattern from this style of offense? Clemson does it. They run short stuff to get the ball in Watkins' hands and let him do the rest. Arkansas does much the same only they have four playmakers.

How can I conveniently lay it on Trotter when he is being asked to run the offense of Cam Newton?
And how rigid are we when Clint Moseley isn't an option?










 



 





 
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: Tiger Wench on October 13, 2011, 09:49:23 AM
True, but he has the best looking beard in the SEC.

I think that thing is the whole damn problem.  I have more hair on my upper lip than he does.  It looks... wimpy.  If you can't grow one that looks better than an anemic caterpillar, then shave the sumbitch off!!

Oh, but wait... it would make his ears even more prominent.  And even Tommy Tuberville looks at Trotter's ears and goes "Damn, son..."
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: JR4AU on October 13, 2011, 10:49:47 AM
I can't help it GH. The coaches made the statement that they intended to put players in a position where they could succeed. And this is simply not the case with Trotter. He can run the Todd version of the N.H. but that hasn't been an option.
This is exactly as it appears, a band aid of sorts until Frazier is ready. I don't have a problem with that. But Trotter was named the starter under the assumption that he won the job. He has now become the whipping boy for the fans with his increasingly poor play. "The packages" for Frazier are QB draws that Trotter can't execute.   

I think Malzahn is as good a play caller as there is in cfb, great offensive mind, but why can't we throw it? Why can't we run any kind of pattern from this style of offense? Clemson does it. They run short stuff to get the ball in Watkins' hands and let him do the rest. Arkansas does much the same only they have four playmakers.

How can I conveniently lay it on Trotter when he is being asked to run the offense of Cam Newton?
And how rigid are we when Clint Moseley isn't an option?

Fuckin' shit you have no clue what you're talking about.  Cam Newton version?  Chris Todd version?  Barrett Trotter version?  Going on and on about "double moves"?   Funny thing is I think you actually believe you know what you're talking about.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: wesfau2 on October 13, 2011, 12:02:45 PM
I have more hair on my upper lip than he does.

Ew.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: GH2001 on October 13, 2011, 02:59:16 PM
I can't help it GH. The coaches made the statement that they intended to put players in a position where they could succeed. And this is simply not the case with Trotter. He can run the Todd version of the N.H. but that hasn't been an option.
This is exactly as it appears, a band aid of sorts until Frazier is ready. I don't have a problem with that. But Trotter was named the starter under the assumption that he won the job. He has now become the whipping boy for the fans with his increasingly poor play. "The packages" for Frazier are QB draws that Trotter can't execute.   

I think Malzahn is as good a play caller as there is in cfb, great offensive mind, but why can't we throw it? Why can't we run any kind of pattern from this style of offense? Clemson does it. They run short stuff to get the ball in Watkins' hands and let him do the rest. Arkansas does much the same only they have four playmakers.

How can I conveniently lay it on Trotter when he is being asked to run the offense of Cam Newton?
And how rigid are we when Clint Moseley isn't an option?

I just don't think that is a set in stone statement by the coaches.

Tubs also said that about Daniel Cobb/Jason Campbell

Apparently Trotter pushed Cam last spring as well. We see how that turned out.

I have no doubt the guy can light it up in practice. Some guys have a game face. And there are some things that will only come out in the game - intangibles.

Texas is also a great example of this in 2 ways. Both McCoys.

Colt was thrown out there his freshman year although he was outplayed in practice. Same with his brother Case and David Ash. They were both outperformed by Garrett Gilbert in practice. Once Mack went the other direction, it was much improvement because those guys were gamers. Aside from the OU game, they have looked light years better than Gilbert, who is now xfering.

We're never gonna see what Kiehl can do until we throw him in there for a few games, let him shake off some kinks, learn from his mistakes and get in a rhythm.
Title: Re: Our beatwriter....
Post by: jmar on October 13, 2011, 05:43:43 PM
Fuckin' shit you have no clue what you're talking about.  Cam Newton version?  Chris Todd version?  Barrett Trotter version?  Going on and on about "double moves"?   Funny thing is I think you actually believe you know what you're talking about.   :facepalm:
Then I take it you think the offense hasn't changed by your smartassed remarks.