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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Six on September 25, 2023, 03:00:31 PM
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It was never going to be a quick fix. We all know that. We all know why. However, there are some areas that need immediate attention and should be the focus of the coaching staff for the rest of the year. They can't overcome talent deficiencies right now. They can overcome indecisiveness.
How? Look at the defense. They play with a plan. They execute. They don't always win, but they run their stuff and move in a way that you can tell that side of the ball knows the assignment.
The offense needs an enema. Pick a QB and ride with him unless injury forces a change. Can't keep swapping dudes every few drives or when the fit hits the shan. Let one take the lumps and learn. It's the only way. OL has got to come together or it's never gonna work. Establishing and leaning on the run game is the best path forward.
Let's look at the remaining schedule.
fUGA - Sucks to say, but they are gonna beat us like a rented redheaded whore. We aren't there yet. Even if they screw around and only care for a quarter, it's enough to get a win. That's just facts.
The Bye Week will be good for recruiting and healing up anything that can get healed.
@ LSU - These guys aren't world-beaters, but they are ahead of the curve. The West is there for the taking (more on why in a bit). Defense can keep this respectable (like aTm) but their talent threshold and being at home is gonna pay off.
Ole Miss - Honestly, there's a chance. They could mail this season in after talking smack and getting that ass beat last week. Or, this may resurrect their season. Hugh is gonna want this so he needs someone to keep his phone locked up and keep his head in the game. Lane will screw it up if we let him.
Mississippi State - Rudderless and going down like a junior at prom. The lesser bullies are not special. Auburn should win this.
@ Vandy - They suck. The worst part will be the guys having to dress in a parking lot.
@ Arkansas - They aren't special either, but they have a dynamic QB, a killer RB, some good DBs, and they will be fighting for their lives at that point. If it was JHS, I'd think we get it. In Fayettenam, it's advantage Hogs.
New Mexico State - We can go Breaking Bad on these chumps and let some walk ons do the dirty work in the second half.
Alabama - Bama is not what we are used to, but they are still good. At home and if the defense is healthy, we can make this close. All going to depend on what HF and co. can muddle together for the offense in the weeks after LSU and before this game.
6-6 or 7-5 is there for the taking. Anything more this year was a pipe dream and required stuff that just isn't feasible.
I rest my case.
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Qb play is always key. And right now it’s ass. Thorne has frozen up for some reason. Coaches have to fix that. That’s an understatement. That’ll determine the rest of the year.
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I think this is our punishment for having the two greatest athletes in college football history wear our colors.
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I think this is our punishment for having the two greatest athletes in college football history wear our colors.
You could be onto something…
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You could be onto something…
Nothing changed the Auburn fanbase more than 1982, 2010, and 2023.
1982 set the course and made Auburn the Auburn we all came to love.
2010 and 2013 turned too many of our fans into Bammers - instant gratification seekers settling for all or nothing. It poisoned the core just a sure as Spike 80DF did the trees. It's never been the same since.
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Nothing changed the Auburn fanbase more than 1982, 2010, and 2023.
1982 set the course and made Auburn the Auburn we all came to love.
2010 and 2013 turned too many of our fans into Bammers - instant gratification seekers settling for all or nothing. It poisoned the core just a sure as Spike 80DF did the trees. It's never been the same since.
Your words have some truth here. It’ll sting for some but….
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Your words have some truth here. It’ll sting for some but….
Truth hurts, but like fire, it purifies.
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Nothing changed the Auburn fanbase more than 1982, 2010, and 2023.
1982 set the course and made Auburn the Auburn we all came to love.
2010 and 2013 turned too many of our fans into Bammers - instant gratification seekers settling for all or nothing. It poisoned the core just a sure as Spike 80DF did the trees. It's never been the same since.
The Auburn I love was built way before 1982.
-- Walking across campus on gamedays in 1970 I thought my grandfather and dad knew everybody. People were friendly, they'd stop and talk at tailgates along the way, I'd throw footballs with other kids. It was like a huge family reunion. Smoke and the smells of burgers, sausages, ribs grilling. That's what I fell in love with. We were one.
-- I loved sitting by the car and listening to Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders called games. I lived in Opelika at the time. Grandaddy would drive down on Friday night or Saturday morning. We'd drive over with a portable grill in the trunk, a cooler full of cokes and hot dogs or burgers. Card table, some lawn chairs and we were set. Even if we didn't have tickets, we'd sit outside and listen to Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders call the game on the radio. You could hear it everywhere because everybody else not in the stadium was doing the same thing.
-- Shug Jordan. A man's man, but a gentleman at the same time. Not like that booze-swilling rube across the state. When I was five or six I wrote him a letter. He could have ignored it buthe sent me back an autographed photo and a handwritten note.
-- Sullivan to Beasley, Terry Henley, Dave Beck, Bill Langner, Bob Newton, Thomas Gossom, James Owens. I remember being crushed in 1971 when we went into the Iron Bowl undefeated (and so were they). Dreaming of a national title and a Sugar Bowl bid. Those guys pounded us like 31-7 or something. Demoralizing. Close game until the fourth quarter, like a one-score game, and then some turnovers and bad luck let them pour it on. Then 72 came.
Yeah, 82 changed things and, for a time, buried the evil empire. Since 82, Auburn is something like 19 and 20 vs Bama. It doesn't feel like that, I guess, because we're on a three-game losing streak and if this season turns out to be a loss it will be the first time we've lost more than three in a row to them since 82. During that span we've had six and four game winning streaks over them, even as Saban piled up national titles. It's a much more even rivalry than any of their unwashed mass is willing to admit.
Yeah, Dye gave us hope in football again and he leveled the playing field to the point it's remained fairly level for the last 40 years. But Auburn was really a lot more than football for me. Quite honestly? A lot of the nostalgic things I loved are gone now. I know I promised not to keep beating this drum, but the Auburn I grew up loving would never have hired a greasy charlatan like Hugh Freeze. And that's a big part of my problem.
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The Auburn I love was built way before 1982.
-- Walking across campus on gamedays in 1970 I thought my grandfather and dad knew everybody. People were friendly, they'd stop and talk at tailgates along the way, I'd throw footballs with other kids. It was like a huge family reunion. Smoke and the smells of burgers, sausages, ribs grilling. That's what I fell in love with. We were one.
-- I loved sitting by the car and listening to Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders called games. I lived in Opelika at the time. Grandaddy would drive down on Friday night or Saturday morning. We'd drive over with a portable grill in the trunk, a cooler full of cokes and hot dogs or burgers. Card table, some lawn chairs and we were set. Even if we didn't have tickets, we'd sit outside and listen to Gusty Yearout and Gary Sanders call the game on the radio. You could hear it everywhere because everybody else not in the stadium was doing the same thing.
-- Shug Jordan. A man's man, but a gentleman at the same time. Not like that booze-swilling rube across the state. When I was five or six I wrote him a letter. He could have ignored it buthe sent me back an autographed photo and a handwritten note.
-- Sullivan to Beasley, Terry Henley, Dave Beck, Bill Langner, Bob Newton, Thomas Gossom, James Owens. I remember being crushed in 1971 when we went into the Iron Bowl undefeated (and so were they). Dreaming of a national title and a Sugar Bowl bid. Those guys pounded us like 31-7 or something. Demoralizing. Close game until the fourth quarter, like a one-score game, and then some turnovers and bad luck let them pour it on. Then 72 came.
Yeah, 82 changed things and, for a time, buried the evil empire. Since 82, Auburn is something like 19 and 20 vs Bama. It doesn't feel like that, I guess, because we're on a three-game losing streak and if this season turns out to be a loss it will be the first time we've lost more than three in a row to them since 82. During that span we've had six and four game winning streaks over them, even as Saban piled up national titles. It's a much more even rivalry than any of their unwashed mass is willing to admit.
Yeah, Dye gave us hope in football again and he leveled the playing field to the point it's remained fairly level for the last 40 years. But Auburn was really a lot more than football for me. Quite honestly? A lot of the nostalgic things I loved are gone now. I know I promised not to keep beating this drum, but the Auburn I grew up loving would never have hired a greasy charlatan like Hugh Freeze. And that's a big part of my problem.
K, I get what you are saying but I think his post was relative to modern era and many of the fanbase that are under 50-55 years old. I know my first memory was indeed Bo over the top. My mother did instill in my head the stories of Shug, Sullivan, Punt Bama Punt and the darkness we went through in the 70s. I get that. And I think it's why I have a little different perspective than maybe a lot of those under 50. To me, 2010 did more damage than Bo or Dye ever did. Ive witnessed it through the years. Those millennial or zoomer generation fans were that was their first real taste as teenagers or young adults....
The lens you see all this through has merit, and I totally get that - watching Auburn change through the years is similar to me to that closing scene in Gangs of New York when they show the graveyard at the base of the bridge as it slowly disappears through the years and changes into not even being relevant or visible, and you start seeing cars and skyscrapers. I think that when I see our program, our campus, our base....But I know things will always change. I don't like it all the time, I know you don't either but it's always going to happen.
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I'm late to the party. Didn't log on the past couple of days and just finished purr-roozing a lot of your posts.
Looks unanimous, with no arguments to the contrary. QB play sucks. Scratch that one off the list.
I'm going to take my take where no take has gone before. So, take my take with a grain of salt. It's quite simple. This will not get any better until the coaching gives us a chance to do just that. No wailing and gnashing of teeth, or calling for anyone's dome. Two things:
1. The turnovers, penalties, missed assignments etc. the first four weeks have nothing to do with any talent disparity. It's flat out a lack of concentration and discipline.
2. I'll harp on the same thing I've been on since the start. If your QB(s) are not accurate, and don't see the field, stop having them sit in the pocket, throwing 90% of their passes 20 yards down field. A&M had what, 7 sacks? Did anyone see even the remotest sign that we tried something to negate that? Did we try a screen? Did we try that drag route that Fair scored on against Cal? Did we run quick slants? Draw plays?
Been saying it over and over and over. Get the ball out of the QB's hand, quickly. ErrmaGerrd, Geernerr will play Saturday. Know why? Because if they have Thorne and Ashford going against FUGA with the same game plan, they'll both be leaving on a stretcher.
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I'm late to the party. Didn't log on the past couple of days and just finished purr-roozing a lot of your posts.
Looks unanimous, with no arguments to the contrary. QB play sucks. Scratch that one off the list.
I'm going to take my take where no take has gone before. So, take my take with a grain of salt. It's quite simple. This will not get any better until the coaching gives us a chance to do just that. No wailing and gnashing of teeth, or calling for anyone's dome. Two things:
1. The turnovers, penalties, missed assignments etc. the first four weeks have nothing to do with any talent disparity. It's flat out a lack of concentration and discipline.
2. I'll harp on the same thing I've been on since the start. If your QB(s) are not accurate, and don't see the field, stop having them sit in the pocket, throwing 90% of their passes 20 yards down field. A&M had what, 7 sacks? Did anyone see even the remotest sign that we tried something to negate that? Did we try a screen? Did we try that drag route that Fair scored on against Cal? Did we run quick slants? Draw plays?
Been saying it over and over and over. Get the ball out of the QB's hand, quickly. ErrmaGerrd, Geernerr will play Saturday. Know why? Because if they have Thorne and Ashford going against FUGA with the same game plan, they'll both be leaving on a stretcher.
Here hear!
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Here hear!
There their.
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I know the NFL and college are night and day, but I watched the Bengals and Rams last night. Joe Fucking Burrow has been hobbled by a calf injury, and is almost immobile, compared to how he normally operates. Almost every one of his first 20-25 passes were under 10 yards. He couldn't move and avoid the rush, so they got the ball out of his hands quick. Took a minute to get in rhythm, but they started moving it, and keeping drives going.
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I know the NFL and college are night and day, but I watched the Bengals and Rams last night. Joe Fucking Burrow has been hobbled by a calf injury, and is almost immobile, compared to how he normally operates. Almost every one of his first 20-25 passes were under 10 yards. He couldn't move and avoid the rush, so they got the ball out of his hands quick. Took a minute to get in rhythm, but they started moving it, and keeping drives going.
CCTAU has been harping about using a quick game to offset the pressure and really the talent disparity in pass protection that should have been obvious to us all @ Cal.
The old way when overmatched was to use screens and draws; only that requires everyone being on the same page, setting up blocking wedges thereby forcing the defense to make open field tackles. It's very physical on a secondary, runs linebackers ragged and moves the chains. [size=78%] [/size]
That's the extent of my coordinating prowess. It requires much more commitment than three fails, a punt and a short field for FUGA.
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CCTAU has been harping about using a quick game to offset the pressure and really the talent disparity in pass protection that should have been obvious to us all @ Cal.
The old way when overmatched was to use screens and draws; only that requires everyone being on the same page, setting up blocking wedges thereby forcing the defense to make open field tackles. It's very physical on a secondary, runs linebackers ragged and moves the chains. [size=78%] [/size]
That's the extent of my coordinating prowess. It requires much more commitment than three fails, a punt and a short field for FUGA.
Thank you JMAR.
This has actually been an issue at AU for the last two coaches.
We recruit some damn fine TEs and immediately forget about them.
Hell, 6' 30" Frazier has been here for almost 5 years. You'd think we might do a little basketball toss over the middle to him every 2 years or so.
I get it, 5-7 yards aren't sexy. But it draws the defense up so you might actually get an open guy downfield.
And when you send everyone deep every play, delay drag one of those TEs across the middle.
At this point, we may have some guys open over the middle and Thorne just can't see them. Or it takes too long to develop. But one thing is for sure, if we don't utilize the short middle passing game, we are screwed.
Sadly I have been screaming this since Gus came to town.
Oh. And I don't mean finally use it on 3rd and 12...
You ain't fooling nobody...well maybe our defense...
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Watch the Pat Dye documentary. If you were alive and cognizant think back to 1980.
Auburn had wandered through the valley of despair for a lot of years. It was as bad as Auburn had ever been (until now, perhaps). Dye came in. He was confident (some said arrogant). He was blunt, he was direct.
His first season wasn't great results-wise. 5-6. But those kids fought their ass off. They were disciplined. They were organized. They battled.
The documentary mentions the last second loss to Tennessee. I remember that vividly. That was when I had hope. We weren't nearly as talented but we battled down to the very last play. We were in it until the end against one of the best Nebraska teams of all time. The last three losses were all against Top Ten teams and Auburn was a play or two away in e every one from changing the outcome. Those kids fought their guts out and everybody could see things were changing.
Auburn didn't have near the talent UT, AL, GA, MSU, or Neb did. (The Wake Forest loss was puzzling in game two, but the team steadily got better). Even when far outclassed, AU was competitive.
My question is whether you feel that now? I freely admit I can't watch all of the game, because it's just too much to take. What I have seen is nothing like 1980. It's not even anything like 1999 or 1993. It's not even 2009.
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CCTAU has been harping about using a quick game to offset the pressure and really the talent disparity in pass protection that should have been obvious to us all @ Cal.
The old way when overmatched was to use screens and draws; only that requires everyone being on the same page, setting up blocking wedges thereby forcing the defense to make open field tackles. It's very physical on a secondary, runs linebackers ragged and moves the chains. [size=78%] [/size]
That's the extent of my coordinating prowess. It requires much more commitment than three fails, a punt and a short field for FUGA.
The roadmap is therefore laid out for Freeze to make this team successful, if he will simply listen. All that he has to do is look at what CTEAU said and do the exact opposite.
If he’ll do that, AU will win.
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Watch the Pat Dye documentary. If you were alive and cognizant think back to 1980.
Auburn had wandered through the valley of despair for a lot of years. It was as bad as Auburn had ever been (until now, perhaps). Dye came in. He was confident (some said arrogant). He was blunt, he was direct.
His first season wasn't great results-wise. 5-6. But those kids fought their ass off. They were disciplined. They were organized. They battled.
The documentary mentions the last second loss to Tennessee. I remember that vividly. That was when I had hope. We weren't nearly as talented but we battled down to the very last play. We were in it until the end against one of the best Nebraska teams of all time. The last three losses were all against Top Ten teams and Auburn was a play or two away in e every one from changing the outcome. Those kids fought their guts out and everybody could see things were changing.
Auburn didn't have near the talent UT, AL, GA, MSU, or Neb did. (The Wake Forest loss was puzzling in game two, but the team steadily got better). Even when far outclassed, AU was competitive.
My question is whether you feel that now? I freely admit I can't watch all of the game, because it's just too much to take. What I have seen is nothing like 1980. It's not even anything like 1999 or 1993. It's not even 2009.
I'll be honest with you. I am a Hugh Freeze fan. I respect that you aren't, and understand your reasoning why. I believe he will be a pretty good coach at Auburn when all is said and done. A couple of thoughts from yours truly:
1. I am extremely disappointed with what I have seen to this point in the season. I am sure this is not his intention, but he keeps shitting on the current roster when talking about the huge disparity in talent. A huge part of football is self-confidence, and hearing that on more than one occasion can be a motivation killer. Not a lot of wisdom in saying that publicly to media members, even if there is some truth to it.
2. I hope I am wrong about this... I am not seeing a whole lot of passion for winning right away from Hugh. I am getting an attitude of "whatever will be, will be" by his tone, and by some of the things he says in his weekly pressers. I personally would like to see a sense of urgency for improvement from the top down and immediate improvement. Sucks that it needs to be against one of the best teams in the country, if not the best, but I want to see an exciting & effective offensive attack. What we have seen up to this point looked like Gus Malzahn (in his worst years here) and Scott Loeffler (in his only year here) had a baby, and that baby is calling plays.
I am trying to be slow to react on the whole thing. It is a hard task to compete year in and year out with the best teams when we are needing to be pulled out of a ditch. I have been unimpressed with Monty, and would like for Freeze and Cadillac to collaborate to get something in place that doesn't resemble a bag of mashed up asshole.
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I'll be honest with you. I am a Hugh Freeze fan. I respect that you aren't, and understand your reasoning why. I believe he will be a pretty good coach at Auburn when all is said and done. A couple of thoughts from yours truly:
1. I am extremely disappointed with what I have seen to this point in the season. I am sure this is not his intention, but he keeps shitting on the current roster when talking about the huge disparity in talent. A huge part of football is self-confidence, and hearing that on more than one occasion can be a motivation killer. Not a lot of wisdom in saying that publicly to media members, even if there is some truth to it.
2. I hope I am wrong about this... I am not seeing a whole lot of passion for winning right away from Hugh. I am getting an attitude of "whatever will be, will be" by his tone, and by some of the things he says in his weekly pressers. I personally would like to see a sense of urgency for improvement from the top down and immediate improvement. Sucks that it needs to be against one of the best teams in the country, if not the best, but I want to see an exciting & effective offensive attack. What we have seen up to this point looked like Gus Malzahn (in his worst years here) and Scott Loeffler (in his only year here) had a baby, and that baby is calling plays.
I am trying to be slow to react on the whole thing. It is a hard task to compete year in and year out with the best teams when we are needing to be pulled out of a ditch. I have been unimpressed with Monty, and would like for Freeze and Cadillac to collaborate to get something in place that doesn't resemble a bag of mashed up asshole.
Basically, you are a much younger and fitter version of WT. I don’t know if you have a big long dick, too. But what you done said is where I am.
Dildo to all you said.
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Basically, you are a much younger and fitter version of WT. I don’t know if you have a big long dick, too. But what you done said is where I am.
Dildo to all you said.
Going back and reading what I wrote while trying to knock out some work left a lot to be desired in how it was worded & structured. As I tell my wife and child, "ya get what ya get and don't pitch a fit".
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I'll be honest with you. I am a Hugh Freeze fan. I respect that you aren't, and understand your reasoning why. I believe he will be a pretty good coach at Auburn when all is said and done. A couple of thoughts from yours truly:
1. I am extremely disappointed with what I have seen to this point in the season. I am sure this is not his intention, but he keeps shitting on the current roster when talking about the huge disparity in talent. A huge part of football is self-confidence, and hearing that on more than one occasion can be a motivation killer. Not a lot of wisdom in saying that publicly to media members, even if there is some truth to it.
2. I hope I am wrong about this... I am not seeing a whole lot of passion for winning right away from Hugh. I am getting an attitude of "whatever will be, will be" by his tone, and by some of the things he says in his weekly pressers. I personally would like to see a sense of urgency for improvement from the top down and immediate improvement. Sucks that it needs to be against one of the best teams in the country, if not the best, but I want to see an exciting & effective offensive attack. What we have seen up to this point looked like Gus Malzahn (in his worst years here) and Scott Loeffler (in his only year here) had a baby, and that baby is calling plays.
I am trying to be slow to react on the whole thing. It is a hard task to compete year in and year out with the best teams when we are needing to be pulled out of a ditch. I have been unimpressed with Monty, and would like for Freeze and Cadillac to collaborate to get something in place that doesn't resemble a bag of mashed up asshole.
I get that. And I hope I’m wrong.
I was so opposed to Freeze personally I never did a good job articulating my professional objections. Those were the ones that matter I guess. And the ones I see playing out now.
We look like a dead baby seal on offense and he comes out all Ned Flanders. We had nice guy gus. We had clueless Hooperman. We lost our fire. Our heart. Our toughness. Our grit. Brother Hugh’s love ‘em tour isn’t going to restore that. He came out this week and said we need to love our team, not hate the opponents. Seriously? They hate us. Deeply. They want to destroy us. We NEED hate right now.
But even more than that what is his resume? It’s paper thin. He’s never been truly successful long term or even short without hookers and cash. He’s no more connected to the NFL or the coaching network than Gus was. He has no resources other than his own sycophantic bubble.
The things I see him say would never be said by Dye, Shug, Tuberville or even maybe Gus.
Once again I hope I’m wrong. We don’t need another carousel. But this is a bad fit.
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Once again I hope I’m wrong. We don’t need another carousel. But this is a bad fit.
We absolutely do not need another carousel. We certainly need longevity and consistency. I won't say it is a bad fit yet, but he certainly is not putting his best foot forward with the product on the field. We haven't looked like world beaters even against the JV teams that we have played thus far, despite what the final score suggests.
I do think part of the problem is that Thorne has snakes in his head, and will need to be replaced during this upcoming game for good. That is where I truly hope I am wrong, because he throws a beautiful ball and can move around well enough to be a threat when he isn't frozen with fear. Robby or Holden might be our best bet in getting the ball out within 3 seconds of the snap.
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I have total faith in Freeze. When the coaching search was going on, I was very open about the fact that I wanted Auburn not to Auburn, and instead, swing for the fences with a home run hire. I knew it wouldn’t happen. That’s not what we do. But I didn’t want the other end of the spectrum either. I didn’t want UT Chattanooga’s coach, or a 5-19 former AU coach who interviewed well, or the latest hot coordinator. I wanted someone who had lots of experience, had been a consistent winner wherever they had been, and especially someone who had been in this conference, and knew what it takes to compete here. I felt like if you put somebody like that in place, with very little learning curve, and give them the backing and resources that Auburn can provide….look out.
Free checks those boxes for me. Has he won anything significant before? No, but how far can you take Lambuth, Arkansas State, Ole Miss or Liberty? However, he’s won to the tune of 103-47. Now, he’s at a place that has the facilities, overall resources and fan backing that can rival any program in the nation. A program that has won, and played for another MNC in very recent history.
Look, every coach’s personality is different. Lord Saybinz is a total ass to everybody. Coach Prime is all Hollywood, all fuck the haters, all the time. Kiffin spends most of his time trying to be cute on social media and in the press. Freeze has his own style, and no, he’s not Pat Dye. I’m apparently hearing different things from Freeze than some of you. I see the guy being almost brutally honest about the play on the field, and the coaching from the sidelines. I see him saying that shit ain’t right, and needs to be fixed, with both the players and coaches. I see an easy read between the lines, saying, “I hired you guys to handle this shit (Offensively) and it better get fixed or I’m taking it over.” And ultimately, that’s his responsibility. It’s on him, and I think he’s more than up to the task.
As a fan, I see stuff in the first 4 games that chaps my Bo Jackson Underoos. Too many stupid turnovers. Excessive penalties, and yes, shittastic play calling that’s more of a problem than our lack of championship caliber talent. And as a fan, I also don’t think it’s overboard to have expectations that the shit they can control, gets straightened out. But I see U calling it out too, and vowing to get it right.
Most likely, we’re about to be 3-2 come Saturday night. Probably going to get a lot worse, before it gets better. But, outside of a random prognostibator predicting Auburn might surprise some people, the overwhelming majority of experts and analysts said we were either last, or next to last in the West, at best. Lucky to win a league game. That’s what happens when Mr. Potato Head decimates your roster, and you have to try and fill the void with 20+ players from East Carolina, Tulsa, Western Kentucky and North Texas. As long as I see U Free doing what it takes to unfuck all the stuff they’ve been doing to beat themselves, I can live with losing to more talented teams. I think he will.
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Goddammit. Y'all got me agreeing with Snags right here in front of god and errbody.
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Goddammit. Y'all got me agreeing with Snags right here in front of god and errbody.
We can all just rub weiners if you want.
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As long as I see U Free doing what it takes to unfuck all the stuff they’ve been doing to beat themselves, I can live with losing to more talented teams. I think he will.
This is my main point of contention. The Texas A&M game was a sequel to the Cal game. The unfuckening was nowhere to be found. I, like you, have faith that it should head the right direction after last week. We are past due on knowing our identity and there is not one thing that I can point to from Cal to A&M that we have improved on. We need to see that against the leg humpers or that alignment is a threat to become fractious.
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We can all just rub weiners if you want.
Snags is way ahead of you. He even throws some bbq rub on it. To each his own, I guess...
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Snags is way ahead of you. He even throws some bbq rub on it. To each his own, I guess...
It's actually kind of a mixture of BBQ sauce and some other ingredients, but it's the brown sugar that keeps em' coming back fo mo.
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More musing. Through 4 games, Eugene Asante has 28 total tackles, 20 solo. 2 sacks and 1 TD.
Dude is a baller, and was balls out against A&M.
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Unshun.
Explain to me how this isn’t Gus-lite?
-Same mystifying lack of development or confidence at QB. With the exception of Stidham for a brief flash, that plagued the Gus offense from the day Nick Marshall left.
- same mind-boggling lack of game planning. No identity. No idea what the offense is even supposed to be trying to do. Same failed philosopy.
- same reliance on defense to bail out the anemic offense, same defense that just wears out.
- same age-old debate over whether the mastermind head coach should take over playcalling.
- I could go on but I’m getting heartburn.
Where is the toughness. Where is the tenacity. Where is that barely restrained fury. Where is the ‘we are coming after your ass’ on offense? Where is the confidence?
I’ve seen this movie before.
— Re-shun —
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Unshun.
Explain to me how this isn’t Gus-lite?
-Same mystifying lack of development or confidence at QB. With the exception of Stidham for a brief flash, that plagued the Gus offense from the day Nick Marshall left.
- same mind-boggling lack of game planning. No identity. No idea what the offense is even supposed to be trying to do. Same failed philosopy.
- same reliance on defense to bail out the anemic offense, same defense that just wears out.
- same age-old debate over whether the mastermind head coach should take over playcalling.
- I could go on but I’m getting heartburn.
Where is the toughness. Where is the tenacity. Where is that barely restrained fury. Where is the ‘we are coming after your ass’ on offense? Where is the confidence?
I’ve seen this movie before.
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Thus far, you are right. What I have to keep reminding myself... We are only 4 games into season 1 with a completely new roster consisting of players that haven't played much football together, and in most cases, are used to playing inferior talent. I think we truly do have the talent to not be a last place team this year in the last year of the SEC West. We just need to build some comradery & coaching needs to be way better on game days.
You'll hate me for saying, but it seems that Hugh is taking the exact same approach that Dye took in his first year at Auburn. This is not saying that Hugh can hold Dye's jock strap, because he hasn't done anything to prove that he can. However, I saw some blatant parallels in messaging to the base, the players, and verbal priorities.
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QB development is definitely not Freeze’s shortcoming. He’s done it way too often to claim otherwise. I don’t know if there’s hope with what’s on the roster now, but it is what it is. I believe if there was truly anyone with legit skillz, we’d be seeing it.
Here’s the reality. (List of excuses) Freeze came in late, and behind the 8-ball. He accomplished more in a few short weeks than Breland Hairpin did in his 1 and 1/3 years here. He’s trying to overcome not only that, but the last 2-3 years of Gus’ completely inept recruiting, especially in areas where we most needed it. Between the recruiting class, and the port hole players, he replaced almost half the roster. However, you’re only going to get a handful of true contributors at best from a freshman class. And let’s face it, while you can find the occasional gold nugget in the port hole, the majority of players in there, either can’t start where they’re at, or they’re wanting to take a step up in competition from a lower tier school. Hence, our O-line and receivers consisting of players from East Carolina, Tulsa, Western Kentucky, North Texas and Jackson State. Are these SEC caliber players? Not looking like it so far, but they may adjust.
As I’ve said numerous times, there’s a lot to clean up with the penalties and turnovers. That’s concentration and coaching. And I’ve also harped on the head scratching play calling to this point. But, I think a lot of what’s happened is that since the day Freeze got to Auburn, it’s been nothing but positive. After quite a few years of a serious downward trend and Birmingham Bowls, we finally had some good shit to talk about, and better days ahead. Then, the season started, and reality set in. Everybody out there without an Auburn jersey on said we’ve got a long way to go. Turns out they were right. It sucks, but they were.
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Freeze has successfully developed QBs before, so that means PT should be leading the Heisman race? That’s a hater’s perspective at this stage. In another season or so, yeah, you may have a point.
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Freeze has successfully developed QBs before, so that means PT should be leading the Heisman race? That’s a hater’s perspective at this stage. In another season or so, yeah, you may have a point.
4 fuckin games.....4. My word...
agree on your point....after a year or two? yeah
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QB development is definitely not Freeze’s shortcoming. He’s done it way too often to claim otherwise. I don’t know if there’s hope with what’s on the roster now, but it is what it is. I believe if there was truly anyone with legit skillz, we’d be seeing it.
Here’s the reality. (List of excuses) Freeze came in late, and behind the 8-ball. He accomplished more in a few short weeks than Breland Hairpin did in his 1 and 1/3 years here. He’s trying to overcome not only that, but the last 2-3 years of Gus’ completely inept recruiting, especially in areas where we most needed it. Between the recruiting class, and the port hole players, he replaced almost half the roster. However, you’re only going to get a handful of true contributors at best from a freshman class. And let’s face it, while you can find the occasional gold nugget in the port hole, the majority of players in there, either can’t start where they’re at, or they’re wanting to take a step up in competition from a lower tier school. Hence, our O-line and receivers consisting of players from East Carolina, Tulsa, Western Kentucky, North Texas and Jackson State. Are these SEC caliber players? Not looking like it so far, but they may adjust.
As I’ve said numerous times, there’s a lot to clean up with the penalties and turnovers. That’s concentration and coaching. And I’ve also harped on the head scratching play calling to this point. But, I think a lot of what’s happened is that since the day Freeze got to Auburn, it’s been nothing but positive. After quite a few years of a serious downward trend and Birmingham Bowls, we finally had some good shit to talk about, and better days ahead. Then, the season started, and reality set in. Everybody out there without an Auburn jersey on said we’ve got a long way to go. Turns out they were right. It sucks, but they were.
Stop making sense and being realistic. It's pitch fork and lynch mob time hoss.
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Hey, this is the poster formally known as ssgaufan. Can y’all help a dumbass out and get someone to send me a link to reset my password for that account?
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Hey, this is the poster formally known as ssgaufan. Can y’all help a dumbass out and get someone to send me a link to reset my password for that account?
Uh huh
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Uh huh
I knew I could count on ol Snaggleballs!
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I am not exactly sure how to reset a password on here.
The guy in charge entered a mental facility and has not been heard from again, apparently.
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I knew I could count on ol Snaggleballs!
Look, you know the rules around here. No one gets back in until they message me nekkid pics of your wife...or girlfriend. Okay, I'll settle for some random porn you found on the interwebs.
Alright damnit!!! I'll take a dick pic, but this is the last time I'm making that exception.
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I am not exactly sure how to reset a password on here.
The guy in charge entered a mental facility and has not been heard from again, apparently.
Where's the guy that asks to really love on dogs? Even though ssgaufan was around here posting more than a decade ago, this Plumber guy's dog should get it.
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Look, you know the rules around here. No one gets back in until they message me nekkid pics of your wife...or girlfriend. Okay, I'll settle for some random porn you found on the interwebs.
Alright damnit!!! I'll take a dick pic, but this is the last time I'm making that exception.
I’m not sure how to post a gif that small, but I’ll try.
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Where's the guy that asks to really love on dogs? Even though ssgaufan was around here posting more than a decade ago, this Plumber guy's dog should get it.
Damn, it’s been that long?
Who the hell put the pic of cheesedick as my avatar?
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Damn, it’s been that long?
Who the hell put the pic of cheesedick as my avatar?
If you think that's bad, you should try not to lose an avatar bet with the Godfather.
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Where's the guy that asks to really love on dogs? Even though ssgaufan was around here posting more than a decade ago, this Plumber guy's dog should get it.
He bought a new fancy car and left us for a supposedly superior forum.
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If you think that's bad, you should try not to lose an avatar bet with the Godfather.
Who?
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I am not exactly sure how to reset a password on here.
The guy in charge entered a mental facility and has not been heard from again, apparently.
I think that's him on the right, in the Payton Thorne pose.
(https://preview.redd.it/the-halloween-2018-intro-was-intense-and-unique-v0-lva8w8xed1ha1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0711c045240e0359d03edacb37aaae7ee30cda66)
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Who?
He is the guy that was caught with all of the kiddie porn on his computer and there was a push to ban him from the x. People were asking me to have him banned but I couldn’t do it. I was sorry for the guy.
Sure he was a very controversial and aggravating figure but his heart was in the right place when it came to Auburn. And sex with elementary age boys is becoming more and more commonplace.
I never hated the guy. Strong dislike, sure but hate is too strong.
I hope he’s doing well. I think he’s living in the jungle somewhere in Central America with a bunch of brown skinned little boys.
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Hey, this is the poster formally known as ssgaufan. Can y’all help a dumbass out and get someone to send me a link to reset my password for that account?
What’s up brother man? I remember you. Hope all is well. Just so you know, these motherfuckers can’t control how many screen names you have. Fuck them.
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I think that's him on the right, in the Payton Thorne pose.
(https://preview.redd.it/the-halloween-2018-intro-was-intense-and-unique-v0-lva8w8xed1ha1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0711c045240e0359d03edacb37aaae7ee30cda66)
The guy taking a shit in his pants or the guy frozen like a statue?
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I think that's him on the right, in the Payton Thorne pose.
(https://preview.redd.it/the-halloween-2018-intro-was-intense-and-unique-v0-lva8w8xed1ha1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0711c045240e0359d03edacb37aaae7ee30cda66)
Turtle Moseley must’ve hosted some football camps in meatchicken that Thorne attended.
Hopefully GF gets the help he needs and makes it back to his creation. I mean, eventually he should figure out that it is impossible to bite your own ear.
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Turtle Moseley must’ve hosted some football camps in meatchicken that Thorne attended.
Hopefully GF gets the help he needs and makes it back to his creation. I mean, eventually he should figure out that it is impossible to bite your own ear.
There are so many different rumors about him that I don’t know what to believe. In a mental hospital, shacked up with some little Central American boys, dead. Who knows? But with any of them it sounds like he’s having a lot of fun.
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There are so many different rumors about him that I don’t know what to believe. In a mental hospital, shacked up with some little Central American boys, dead. Who knows? But with any of them it sounds like he’s having a lot of fun.
I heard he has gone mad in Myanmar (will always be Burma to me) while looking for the next great Auburn logo.
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I heard he has gone mad in Myanmar (will always be Burma to me) while looking for the next great Auburn logo.
You, on the moped, sell me one of your melons!