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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: WiregrassTiger on February 04, 2022, 10:02:08 AM
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Is he a Scientologist? If he truly is and we win the SEC next year, should we can him?
They already hired that Jewish guy and now they can’t fire him without a discrimination lawsuit. That’s why you should definitely do better background checks. I had heard that guy was a jew.
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Is he a Scientologist? If he truly is and we win the SEC next year, should we can him?
They already hired that Jewish guy and now they can’t fire him without a discrimination lawsuit. That’s why you should definitely do better background checks. I had heard that guy was a jew.
Don't tell 'em you're Jewish, Wang.
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Hey, loosen up, will ya'. You're a lotta woman, you know that? Yeah, you wanna' make $14 the hard way?
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So, Katie Holmes is having Harsin's love child?
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So, Katie Holmes is having Harsin's love child?
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Harsin pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious
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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Harsin pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious
Save Ferris Harsin!
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The Ferris/Caddyshack quotes reminded me, I was at Shore Thing Cigars in Watersound this past weekend. They have a couple of walls of cigar lockers with the names of the owners on front. Along with Luke Bryan's, they had Abe Froman and Al Czervik.
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The Ferris/Caddyshack quotes reminded me, I was at Shore Thing Cigars in Watersound this past weekend. They have a couple of walls of cigar lockers with the names of the owners on front. Along with Luke Bryan's, they had Abe Froman and Al Czervik.
Truman Show was REAL!
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So...is there ANYTHING to substantiate any of this beyond a rumor posted on the fucking Bunker?
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So...is there ANYTHING to substantiate any of this beyond a rumor posted on the fucking Bunker?
Apparently the Board of Trustees went into an emergency meeting regarding potential lawsuits this morning.
Still not sure where those lawsuits are supposed to be coming from though. Defamation of character is a possibility too.
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Apparently the Board of Trustees went into an emergency meeting regarding potential lawsuits this morning.
Still not sure where those lawsuits are supposed to be coming from though. Defamation of character is a possibility too.
Nothing to the lawsuit. Purportedly stems from a disgruntled scout team walk on from the 80s from Georgia who is still pissed that they never gave him a jersey with a number on it. And they made him wash jocks after practice.
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Apparently the Board of Trustees went into an emergency meeting regarding potential lawsuits this morning.
Still not sure where those lawsuits are supposed to be coming from though. Defamation of character is a possibility too.
I found a cliff notes/transcript of the BOT meeting. And saw nothing concerning football on it. Mainly the basketball practice facility and women's locker room alterations.
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So...is there ANYTHING to substantiate any of this beyond a rumor posted on the fucking Bunker?
The bunker was the LAST place to pick up on it as "legit" smoke. Hoke and Phillip (as K said) are the ones who really took off with it. At that point, the bunker mods had to at least put out a post on what they knew to be going on.
Bunker/Rivals > On3 Hoke > 247 PAM and Ronnie.... just my take.
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The bunker was the LAST place to pick up on it as "legit" smoke. Hoke and Phillip (as K said) are the ones who really took off with it. At that point, the bunker mods had to at least put out a post on what they knew to be going on.
Bunker/Rivals > On3 Hoke > 247 PAM and Ronnie.... just my take.
NOMNOM is who we're trusting on this? Fuck's sake, the guy would spout off whatever party line is required for continued access to the press box.
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NOMNOM is who we're trusting on this? Fuck's sake, the guy would spout off whatever party line is required for continued access to the press box.
Not I captain. But some do, yes.
PAM is a mouth piece for Yella. Pretty widely known since the Pushing of Steele in Dec of 2020 by 247.
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NOMNOM is who we're trusting on this? Fuck's sake, the guy would spout off whatever party line is required for continued access to the press box.
I saw this guy eat 27 chicken fingers and three hot dogs there one day. I'm pretty sure he was stashing more for later in his backpack. It's his source of sustenance.
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I saw this guy eat 27 chicken fingers and three hot dogs there one day. I'm pretty sure he was stashing more for later in his backpack. It's his source of sustenance.
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I saw this guy eat 27 chicken fingers and three hot dogs there one day. I'm pretty sure he was stashing more for later in his backpack. It's his source of sustenance.
We normally take 431 out of Dothan to head to Auburn. You have to go through Eufaula but that's cool because Hartz, or Big H Chicken is right on the way. A frickin' dump, but dayumm, they gots some righteous fried chicken. It's become a regular stop for years.
Anyway, there was a guy in there eating with his wife. For the longest time, I thought it was Captain Nom Nom. They both got the all you can eat buffet, but he was actually too big to keep getting up and down. His wife went back about 5 or 6 times while we were there, to load up his plate. While she was gone, he would grab the chicken from her plate and start cramming in his face. She would bring his back and have to go back for herself. Rinse/repeat over and over. Pretty soon, I started noticing him wrapping up about 5 chicken breasts in napkins. Just before he Professor Klump'd himself out of the chair for them to leave, he stuffed the chicken in her purse. Little snack for the ride home.
It wasn't him, but you can't mention PM's name without me thinking of that carnage.
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Just throwing this out there, but rumor has it that Hargrove wouldn't take a selfie with a group of fans walking by practice one day. And I can't confirm this, but I have also heard he didn't rewind his Blockbuster rentals.
#firehammaker
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At this point, the PTB have created another shit show with the handling of this.
We have fans that normally are cool headed jumping on the tar and feather bandwagon.
I can honestly say that Clay Travis could write an expose' on the 85% of the AU fanbase now.
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Just throwing this out there, but rumor has it that Hargrove wouldn't take a selfie with a group of fans walking by practice one day. And I can't confirm this, but I have also heard he didn't rewind his Blockbuster rentals.
#firehammaker
Tip of the iceberg. The man doesn't tip 15%.
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At this point, the PTB have created another shit show with the handling of this.
We have fans that normally are cool headed jumping on the tar and feather bandwagon.
I can honestly say that Clay Travis could write an expose' on the 85% of the AU fanbase now.
This is my problem. I can't prove it, but I've got my reasons for believing that moron Porky Phil - who is a drooling, goggle-eyed, Quasimodo-looking, single-digit IQ hack - helped kick the hornet's nest because a) his butt got chapped when he was kicked out of the inner circle and b) he's a stooge for people who want to run things and don't like being told no. I also fully believe that Deddy Nobucks and his entitled son are playing a big behind-the-scenes role in a lot of the shit being slung. Their butts were roasted because Hagrid didn't show the proper fealty to his highness.
Look, everybody knew from the jump that Harding was a bad hire, a bad fit. That cringe-inducing photo of him and his family at the stadium was a red flag the size of one of whoopi goldberg's shirts. But we were so adamantly opposed to the mutinous, meddling booster-backed Steele and grateful that the program had rejected the "good-ol' boy network" that we just took it and hoped for the best.
It hasn't been the best. Hogan gave them ammunition with the monumental collapse against Mississippi State. The debacle at South Carolina. I don't hold the Alabama game against him because I felt like we did the best we could with the hand we were dealt. If he'd won two of those, or all three? The conversation today is completely different I think. But losing them allowed the door to open.
I hear lots of shit. I'm not inclined to put a lot of stock in what players recruited and loved on by Gus have to say when they leave. The guy has a hard edge and it's a completely different mentality than they're used to. Don't really care what they say. There was no portal when Sabbin came to Alabama, but having been on the ground there during his first season, I know this. If it had existed, it would have been filled with players trying to escape. The guys he had didn't fit his mentality at all and there were a lot of people on that roster who were miserable. He made them miserable. On purpose.
But what Sabeen did that Heflin hasn't done is sell his vision. Subhan sold it to the underclassmen. He sold it to parents (easy to do when you're trailing new cars and teddy bears full of hundreds, but still), he sold it to the administration. I can't vouch for this 100% but I have it on good authority that he basically told them "what you're doing hasn't brought you the success you want. Do it my way, completely my way for three years (some versions say five) and if we aren't where you want to be, competing for championships every year, I leave with no buyout."
Harley hasn't sold his vision to anybody. He's kept it to himself. It may be a great and successful vision and one that would bring Auburn to the top of the college football world, but nobody knows because he hasn't shared it. He hasn't shared it with parents (when was the last time you heard of him meeting with parents?). He hasn't sold it to the team that we're aware of. He hasn't sold it to the administration. He hasn't sold it to the enemy media.
Bruce Pearl did that. Pat Dye did that. Gus even did that (although he deluded himself). Chizik did that (although he also deluded himself).
Maybe Herbig is distracted because he has his head buried in the bird's nest of the strange. I've known better men who completely lost their bearings over a toasty kitty. And after seeing his butchered up, swole-lipped, plasti-tittied wife? Can't exactly fault him for that. If that temptation was there, it would be hard to resist.
Either way, this has become a public spectacle and there's no winning play. If he comes back from vacation and retains his job every move will be examined. Every word parsed. Even if he wanted to recruit, he'd be hamstrung. If he goes, there's no coach in the world who'd take that job. Except maybe Brian Flores -- who would fuck up royally, get us on death-penalty probation and then sue for discrimination when he got fired.
Either way, the football program is burning to the ground before our eyes. Nothing we can do but toast marshmallows. Where is that idiot fuck these days?
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At this point, the PTB have created another shit show with the handling of this.
We have fans that normally are cool headed jumping on the tar and feather bandwagon.
I can honestly say that Clay Travis could write an expose' on the 85% of the AU fanbase now.
We're definitely the flavor of the week.
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And I can't confirm this, but I have also heard he didn't rewind his Blockbuster rentals.
That motherfucker just made my list.
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When they announced Bynum Hatpin as the corch, GH or GF, or somebody sent me a clip of a press conference he had at Boise St. The clip was Hardon talking about some players having what it takes to be disciplined and show up at the gym at the butt crack of dawn, while the others who aren't getting work done are the ones complaining about playing time and sitting at the end of the bench.
I was like, hells to the yeah. We've got us a no-nonsense, foot up your ass coach, who has been pretty damn successful so far. Not long after he arrived, we had a bunch of players jump in the portal, a lot of whom weren't scrubs looking for playing time. Just about our entire defensive line starters left the building, which didn't phase me too much because honestly, they sucked. But I think it was fairly clear they didn't like what the new Sheriff had to say.
After this season, we've had 20 players enter the pornhole, some of whom threw some shade back at Harborlights. He fired his WR coach a few games in, he fired his OC at season's end, his D-line coach bolted, his new OC opted to not work here anymore, and his DC took just under a half million dollar pay cut to leave and be a DC in a failing league. Some of those may be easily explained, but I think we can safely assume that the man probably has the people skills of a honey badger with an abscessed tooth.
Here's the problem, which K alluded to above. Things have changed drastically in college football in the incredibly short time since Harkless was signed. The portal dealio is really just getting started, and NIL is already redefining how business is done.
You can call these kids coddled, entitled, weak-minded....whatever. They can't take a task master like Heartline coming in demanding hard work and hurting their feelings. But they don't have to. Why should they when the inmates are running the asylum now? Fuck you, Tony. If I don't like the way you talk to me, or if I can get a better NIL deal somewhere else, I'll just leave.
That's just the way of the world in college football now. We talk about "weeding out" and "changing the culture." Not with an iron fist, you're not. Those days are most likely long gone.
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Yeah, it's looking more and more like Harlequin wasn't a good hire. Maybe 10 years ago, but not in today's culture.
That could be part of why Saban has been whining extra hard this offseason too, because he realizes that his days of being the sonofabitch task master are limited.
I will donkey punch the first motherfucker that says we should have kept Gus, but we are probably gonna need somebody more like a Hugh Freeze that knows his way around a burner phone and has more than 2 pages to his playbook.
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Yeah, it's looking more and more like Harlequin wasn't a good hire. Maybe 10 years ago, but not in today's culture.
That could be part of why Saban has been whining extra hard this offseason too, because he realizes that his days of being the sonofabitch task master are limited.
I will donkey punch the first motherfucker that says we should have kept Gus, but we are probably gonna need somebody more like a Hugh Freeze that knows his way around a burner phone and has more than 2 pages to his playbook.
I like the cut of your jib, Mister.
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Going on the record (again) as saying that Harsin is not the problem.
At all.
Change is painful. It's uncomfortable. That's not what this is about.
This is about some titty-baby trustees who got blindsided with AG's hire and have been fighting it since to reclaim their position atop the fucking totem pole.
Where's the Tylenol?
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Going on the record (again) as saying that Harsin is not the problem.
At all.
Change is painful. It's uncomfortable. That's not what this is about.
This is about some titty-baby trustees who got blindsided with AG's hire and have been fighting it since to reclaim their position atop the fucking totem pole.
Where's the Tylenol?
Not gonna lie...I think you are about 90% correct. Had heard though that Hennigan wasn't a fan of the NIL and that's a big part of why there was an internal revolt into the portal. I hate the shit too, but it's there and you gotta deal with it.
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Yeah, it's looking more and more like Harlequin wasn't a good hire. Maybe 10 years ago, but not in today's culture.
That could be part of why Saban has been whining extra hard this offseason too, because he realizes that his days of being the sonofabitch task master are limited.
I will donkey punch the first motherfucker that says we should have kept Gus, but we are probably gonna need somebody more like a Hugh Freeze that knows his way around a burner phone and has more than 2 pages to his playbook.
Don't make me unfriend you.
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Don't make me unfriend you.
I'll just keep calling you on my burner
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Going on the record (again) as saying that Harsin is not the problem.
At all.
Change is painful. It's uncomfortable. That's not what this is about.
This is about some titty-baby trustees who got blindsided with AG's hire and have been fighting it since to reclaim their position atop the fucking totem pole.
Where's the Tylenol?
So my question is, what got all this started? You can't just be a butt hurt booster and decide, hey, let's open an investigation and try and get rid of Coach Hatpin. The firings, the coach taking an almost half a million dollar pay cut to get away from the program, the five game losing streak, an unprecedented 20 players leaving the program etc. weren't manufactured by anyone. That's all on Habersham. That's not weeding out or culture change. That's just plain ugly.
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So my question is, what got all this started? You can't just be a butt hurt booster and decide, hey, let's open an investigation and try and get rid of Coach Hatpin. The firings, the coach taking an almost half a million dollar pay cut to get away from the program, the five game losing streak, an unprecedented 20 players leaving the program etc. weren't manufactured by anyone. That's all on Habersham. That's not weeding out or culture change. That's just plain ugly.
Yes, yes you can. You get Phil the Idiot to float rumors. The rumors get the wheel started and get people to ask questions.
Did he take that pay cut? We don't know. We only know what's been said not what is actual.
Five game losing streak. Maybe he chewed out the coach who caused that - and who saw himself being absolutely roasted by the entire fanbase who didn't even want him in the building after the collapses.
All of it is ugly. All of it. But if the MSU and SC collapses don't happen and if the refs call delay of game like they should have (or if Bigsby gets out of bounds) guess who's not having this conversation? Guess who's not getting dragged gleefully through the media mud.
But because those things happened, people now feel they have the liberty to ask questions, to demand answers, to make their moves. Win those three games and nobody floats the "he's having an affair" rumor that got this whole ball rolling.
That doesn't mean it isn't bad or that Hardcopy doesn't have faults. He ABSOLUTELY cannot blow off PR events. He can't expect "it's Auburn" to be enough of a draw for major recruits. But if he hadn't dug the hole with the three unacceptable losses? Those would likely be considered correctible issues, not the end of the world.
BUT (and I got a big but) but... we are all trading in speculation here. We don't know what truly happened or why things transpired the way they did. Maybe his wife has cancer and he needed to be with her. Maybe she was attacked by a herd of murder wasps (her fucked up face looks like it) and he was at her side in the hospital. Maybe his daughter WAS fucking the receiver coach and his pissed off reaction wasn't cool with other members of the staff. Maybe he was going to fire Mason after shitting the bed and failing to adjust at State and Mason knew it so he took whatever job he could.
I don't think we know enough to know. I also don't think we ever will.
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I tried to tell everyone that we should have kept Gus.
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I tried to tell everyone that we should have kept Gus.
I'm gonna donkey punch you
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I'm gonna donkey punch you
Just ignore him...everybody else does...
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Just ignore him...everybody else does...
Just because I did not practice at Auburn and get the ever living fuck slapped out of me on a daily basis, does not mean that people shouldn’t value my opinions.
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Copied and pasted from AL.com, I know they are full on Saban suckers
It’s over for Bryan Harsin at Auburn.
Auburn made it clear this week that Harsin can no longer effectively coach football at the university, and that’s for the best since Harsin has made it clear over the last couple months that he doesn’t know how to coach in this new version of the SEC.
Harsin returns from vacation today, and while he was away the university, working outside of the athletics department, launched an investigation of the football team to figure out how Harsin could lose so much support from within. It was a stunning rebuke of a second-year football coach like the SEC has rarely seen. Harsin was hired little more than a year ago to replace fired coach Gus Malzahn, but now the university has turned on him.
Malzahn had a pretty good run at Auburn. Harsin never put on his shoes, and then someone took his fresh kicks out of the locker room and threw them up on a power line for all to see.
Alabama infamously had a coach named “Ears” Whitworth, and now Auburn has their modern version of that old coaching relic. Harsin’s unmasked, abject failures as head coach of Auburn football scream of someone unwilling to listen to people smarter than him about how to win in the SEC.
Whatever it takes.
Maybe Harsin just needed more time, but Auburn, though its actions this week, clearly decided any more time spent helping Harsin figure things out was a waste.
At one point, maybe for a few months, Harsin could have succeeded at Auburn if things had been different. I’m being kind here because, to be fair, Auburn athletics director Allen Greene and his hiring committee wanted a tough coach who could mold a team the old way and that’s exactly who they thought they hired.
Then, suddenly, everything changed about college football in the SEC.
The rules allowing players to be paid for their name, image and likeness went into effect in June of 2021, Texas and Oklahoma announced it was joining the SEC a couple months later and now Texas A&M is out-recruiting everyone thanks to a bottomless war chest of cash.
In the old SEC, where toughness was currency and grit was like football gold, Harsin might have made a really good coach. Now coaches need to keep players happy, and maybe well compensated, too, for a team to even have a chance. There are ways to rebuild quickly in this new world, and all it takes is more money.
Auburn appears ready to fork it over.
On Monday, the university released an ominous statement announcing for all to hear that it was “judiciously collecting information” on Harsin’s program.
On Tuesday, Auburn screamed to everyone that — hooray — it suddenly received the single largest donation in Auburn athletics history.
On Wednesday, Harsin was set to return from vacation. Don’t unpack, coach, because we all know what happens next. Harsin’s buyout is $18 million if Auburn fires him without cause. Maybe something will come up, though. The investigation of Auburn football is ongoing.
At the beginning of this week, I was convinced that firing Harsin after just one season would set Auburn football back years. That was just me thinking like a college football dinosaur circa January 2021. If and when Auburn officially breaks with Harsin, and it’s surely coming soon, maybe the university doesn’t need the best available coach in the country to compete with Alabama and Georgia.
Find someone people respect, and instead of paying him $5 million a year figure out creative ways to funnel half of that money to players through NIL deals.
Oh, did I say the silent part out loud? Well, you don’t have to like it, but this is the future of the SEC.
Nick Saban says paying players NIL money to pick a school is wrong, but I can’t see the reason why. Everyone else is making money, so what’s wrong with the players getting paid their fair shares? If that’s cheating then something’s wrong with the rules. In reality, paying players through NIL deals is about to be a normalized way of doing business.
Why keep blowing out the budget on these wasteful and disgusting coaching buyouts when investing capital in players is the intelligent and morally correct thing to do? The buyouts for Gus Malzahn and Bryan Harsin combined are $40 million. That kind of money would change the lives of a lot of people.
The game changed on Harsin before the ink even dried on his contract, and then he refused to adapt in a league he never understood from the beginning. His starting quarterback left for Oregon, his defensive coordinator took a pay cut to coach at Oklahoma State and Harsin’s young, 32-year-old offensive coordinator, who was on the job less than two months, suddenly quit two days before National Signing Day.
It can’t get any worse than that, right? I don’t want to find out.
At best, Harsin is a pettish version of Michael Scott at Dunder Mifflin, a poor manager of people selling reams of paper out of an office building at the dawn of our digital age. To be sure, this past week has felt like an episode of some ridiculous sit-com because only some fictitious television character like Scott could get fired from his job while on vacation.
We all know it’s so much worse than that, though. Harsin isn’t Scott. He’s what happens when Dwight Schrute finally gets his chance to run the office.
Joseph Goodman is a columnist for the Alabama Media Group, and author of “We Want Bama: A season of hope and the making of Nick Saban’s ‘ultimate team’”. You can find him on Twitter @JoeGoodmanJr.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/02/auburns-message-to-bryan-harsin-is-clear-its-over.html (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/02/auburns-message-to-bryan-harsin-is-clear-its-over.html)
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Copied and pasted from AL.com, I know they are full on Saban suckers
It’s over for Bryan Harsin at Auburn.
Auburn made it clear this week that Harsin can no longer effectively coach football at the university, and that’s for the best since Harsin has made it clear over the last couple months that he doesn’t know how to coach in this new version of the SEC.
Harsin returns from vacation today, and while he was away the university, working outside of the athletics department, launched an investigation of the football team to figure out how Harsin could lose so much support from within. It was a stunning rebuke of a second-year football coach like the SEC has rarely seen. Harsin was hired little more than a year ago to replace fired coach Gus Malzahn, but now the university has turned on him.
Malzahn had a pretty good run at Auburn. Harsin never put on his shoes, and then someone took his fresh kicks out of the locker room and threw them up on a power line for all to see.
Alabama infamously had a coach named “Ears” Whitworth, and now Auburn has their modern version of that old coaching relic. Harsin’s unmasked, abject failures as head coach of Auburn football scream of someone unwilling to listen to people smarter than him about how to win in the SEC.
Whatever it takes.
Maybe Harsin just needed more time, but Auburn, though its actions this week, clearly decided any more time spent helping Harsin figure things out was a waste.
At one point, maybe for a few months, Harsin could have succeeded at Auburn if things had been different. I’m being kind here because, to be fair, Auburn athletics director Allen Greene and his hiring committee wanted a tough coach who could mold a team the old way and that’s exactly who they thought they hired.
Then, suddenly, everything changed about college football in the SEC.
The rules allowing players to be paid for their name, image and likeness went into effect in June of 2021, Texas and Oklahoma announced it was joining the SEC a couple months later and now Texas A&M is out-recruiting everyone thanks to a bottomless war chest of cash.
In the old SEC, where toughness was currency and grit was like football gold, Harsin might have made a really good coach. Now coaches need to keep players happy, and maybe well compensated, too, for a team to even have a chance. There are ways to rebuild quickly in this new world, and all it takes is more money.
Auburn appears ready to fork it over.
On Monday, the university released an ominous statement announcing for all to hear that it was “judiciously collecting information” on Harsin’s program.
On Tuesday, Auburn screamed to everyone that — hooray — it suddenly received the single largest donation in Auburn athletics history.
On Wednesday, Harsin was set to return from vacation. Don’t unpack, coach, because we all know what happens next. Harsin’s buyout is $18 million if Auburn fires him without cause. Maybe something will come up, though. The investigation of Auburn football is ongoing.
At the beginning of this week, I was convinced that firing Harsin after just one season would set Auburn football back years. That was just me thinking like a college football dinosaur circa January 2021. If and when Auburn officially breaks with Harsin, and it’s surely coming soon, maybe the university doesn’t need the best available coach in the country to compete with Alabama and Georgia.
Find someone people respect, and instead of paying him $5 million a year figure out creative ways to funnel half of that money to players through NIL deals.
Oh, did I say the silent part out loud? Well, you don’t have to like it, but this is the future of the SEC.
Nick Saban says paying players NIL money to pick a school is wrong, but I can’t see the reason why. Everyone else is making money, so what’s wrong with the players getting paid their fair shares? If that’s cheating then something’s wrong with the rules. In reality, paying players through NIL deals is about to be a normalized way of doing business.
Why keep blowing out the budget on these wasteful and disgusting coaching buyouts when investing capital in players is the intelligent and morally correct thing to do? The buyouts for Gus Malzahn and Bryan Harsin combined are $40 million. That kind of money would change the lives of a lot of people.
The game changed on Harsin before the ink even dried on his contract, and then he refused to adapt in a league he never understood from the beginning. His starting quarterback left for Oregon, his defensive coordinator took a pay cut to coach at Oklahoma State and Harsin’s young, 32-year-old offensive coordinator, who was on the job less than two months, suddenly quit two days before National Signing Day.
It can’t get any worse than that, right? I don’t want to find out.
At best, Harsin is a pettish version of Michael Scott at Dunder Mifflin, a poor manager of people selling reams of paper out of an office building at the dawn of our digital age. To be sure, this past week has felt like an episode of some ridiculous sit-com because only some fictitious television character like Scott could get fired from his job while on vacation.
We all know it’s so much worse than that, though. Harsin isn’t Scott. He’s what happens when Dwight Schrute finally gets his chance to run the office.
Joseph Goodman is a columnist for the Alabama Media Group, and author of “We Want Bama: A season of hope and the making of Nick Saban’s ‘ultimate team’”. You can find him on Twitter @JoeGoodmanJr.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/02/auburns-message-to-bryan-harsin-is-clear-its-over.html (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2022/02/auburns-message-to-bryan-harsin-is-clear-its-over.html)
Goodman is the WORST. Fuck him. He's been after Horton since the whole "REEEEE, he won't get a vaccineeee REEEEEE! He put us journalists at mortal peril when he REEEEEEE didn't wear a REEEEEEE mask at REEEEEEE Media Days! REEEEEEEE Murderer!!" rant
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Just because I did not practice at Auburn and get the ever living fuck slapped out of me on a daily basis, does not mean that people shouldn’t value my opinions.
Yes. Yes it does.
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Goodman is the WORST. Fuck him. He's been after Horton since the whole "REEEEE, he won't get a vaccineeee REEEEEE! He put us journalists at mortal peril when he REEEEEEE didn't wear a REEEEEEE mask at REEEEEEE Media Days! REEEEEEEE Murderer!!" rant
Just another reason to never click on anything from that bammer $h1tbag organization.
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Copied and pasted from AL.com, I know they are full on Saban suckers
It’s over for Bryan Harsin at Auburn.
Auburn made it clear this week that Harsin can no longer effectively coach football at the university, and that’s for the best since Harsin has made it clear over the last couple months that he doesn’t know how to coach in this new version of the SEC.
Harsin returns from vacation today, and while he was away the university, working outside of the athletics department, launched an investigation of the football team to figure out how Harsin could lose so much support from within. It was a stunning rebuke of a second-year football coach like the SEC has rarely seen. Harsin was hired little more than a year ago to replace fired coach Gus Malzahn, but now the university has turned on him.
Malzahn had a pretty good run at Auburn. Harsin never put on his shoes, and then someone took his fresh kicks out of the locker room and threw them up on a power line for all to see.
Alabama infamously had a coach named “Ears” Whitworth, and now Auburn has their modern version of that old coaching relic. Harsin’s unmasked, abject failures as head coach of Auburn football scream of someone unwilling to listen to people smarter than him about how to win in the SEC.
Whatever it takes.
Maybe Harsin just needed more time, but Auburn, though its actions this week, clearly decided any more time spent helping Harsin figure things out was a waste.
At one point, maybe for a few months, Harsin could have succeeded at Auburn if things had been different. I’m being kind here because, to be fair, Auburn athletics director Allen Greene and his hiring committee wanted a tough coach who could mold a team the old way and that’s exactly who they thought they hired.
Then, suddenly, everything changed about college football in the SEC.
The rules allowing players to be paid for their name, image and likeness went into effect in June of 2021, Texas and Oklahoma announced it was joining the SEC a couple months later and now Texas A&M is out-recruiting everyone thanks to a bottomless war chest of cash.
In the old SEC, where toughness was currency and grit was like football gold, Harsin might have made a really good coach. Now coaches need to keep players happy, and maybe well compensated, too, for a team to even have a chance. There are ways to rebuild quickly in this new world, and all it takes is more money.
Auburn appears ready to fork it over.
On Monday, the university released an ominous statement announcing for all to hear that it was “judiciously collecting information” on Harsin’s program.
On Tuesday, Auburn screamed to everyone that — hooray — it suddenly received the single largest donation in Auburn athletics history.
On Wednesday, Harsin was set to return from vacation. Don’t unpack, coach, because we all know what happens next. Harsin’s buyout is $18 million if Auburn fires him without cause. Maybe something will come up, though. The investigation of Auburn football is ongoing.
At the beginning of this week, I was convinced that firing Harsin after just one season would set Auburn football back years. That was just me thinking like a college football dinosaur circa January 2021. If and when Auburn officially breaks with Harsin, and it’s surely coming soon, maybe the university doesn’t need the best available coach in the country to compete with Alabama and Georgia.
Find someone people respect, and instead of paying him $5 million a year figure out creative ways to funnel half of that money to players through NIL deals.
Oh, did I say the silent part out loud? Well, you don’t have to like it, but this is the future of the SEC.
Nick Saban says paying players NIL money to pick a school is wrong, but I can’t see the reason why. Everyone else is making money, so what’s wrong with the players getting paid their fair shares? If that’s cheating then something’s wrong with the rules. In reality, paying players through NIL deals is about to be a normalized way of doing business.
Why keep blowing out the budget on these wasteful and disgusting coaching buyouts when investing capital in players is the intelligent and morally correct thing to do? The buyouts for Gus Malzahn and Bryan Harsin combined are $40 million. That kind of money would change the lives of a lot of people.
The game changed on Harsin before the ink even dried on his contract, and then he refused to adapt in a league he never understood from the beginning. His starting quarterback left for Oregon, his defensive coordinator took a pay cut to coach at Oklahoma State and Harsin’s young, 32-year-old offensive coordinator, who was on the job less than two months, suddenly quit two days before National Signing Day.
It can’t get any worse than that, right? I don’t want to find out.
At best, Harsin is a pettish version of Michael Scott at Dunder Mifflin, a poor manager of people selling reams of paper out of an office building at the dawn of our digital age. To be sure, this past week has felt like an episode of some ridiculous sit-com because only some fictitious television character like Scott could get fired from his job while on vacation.
We all know it’s so much worse than that, though. Harsin isn’t Scott. He’s what happens when Dwight Schrute finally gets his chance to run the office.
Joseph Goodman is a columnist for the Alabama Media Group, and author of “We Want Bama: A season of hope and the making of Nick Saban’s ‘ultimate team’”. You can find him on Twitter @JoeGoodmanJr.
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I have a lot of respect for you Ben so I want to encourage you to never read any of this Goodman shit.
Everything the man writes is shit. He’s a fraud.
The biggest thing this loser ever did was marry Roseanne.
No matter what happens to Coach Hadley, Goodman will find a way to praise Nick Saban, talk shit about AU and call for mask mandates.
#fuckgoodman
His mom should be ashamed of having him.
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His kid was ashamed.
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I have a lot of respect for you Ben so I want to encourage you to never read any of this Goodman shit.
Everything the man writes is shit. He’s a fraud.
The biggest thing this loser ever did was marry Roseanne.
No matter what happens to Coach Hadley, Goodman will find a way to praise Nick Saban, talk shit about AU and call for mask mandates.
#fuckgoodman
His mom should be ashamed of having him.
I don't get it, Big Dan
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I don't get it, Big Dan
You know, John Goodman? Big guy who played opposite Roseanne as her husband?
He also played Coach Harris in Revenge of the Nerds, among other movies like, O' Brother Where Art Thou, when he played Big Dan.....Teague.....
Never mind.
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Can we get back to Buzz Donkey Punching Wiregrass? Because I'd pay good money to see that.
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Can we get back to Buzz Donkey Punching Wiregrass? Because I'd pay good money to see that.
I'm setting up the Pay-Per-View. Will be carried on the Pluto Network.
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Copy/Pasta'd from Montgomery Advertiser
AUBURN — Auburn University enacted a new policy Tuesday requiring employees to fully cooperate with university investigations, with failure to do so punishable by termination. The new policy went into effect as Auburn is "judiciously collecting information" about football coach Bryan Harsin's tenure at the school.
I'm sure the timing of this has nothing to do with the Harlequin investigation. Nothing to see here. If it does, and they think it helps them, I reeeeally have to question if anyone at Auburn has a grasp on reality.
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Copy/Pasta'd from Montgomery Advertiser
AUBURN — Auburn University enacted a new policy Tuesday requiring employees to fully cooperate with university investigations, with failure to do so punishable by termination. The new policy went into effect as Auburn is "judiciously collecting information" about football coach Bryan Harsin's tenure at the school.
I'm sure the timing of this has nothing to do with the Harlequin investigation. Nothing to see here. If it does, and they think it helps them, I reeeeally have to question if anyone at Auburn has a grasp on reality.
And an effective date of new policy is dates 2/8/22. Does anyone know if this was an update to an existing policy?
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And an effective date of new policy is dates 2/8/22. Does anyone know if this was an update to an existing policy?
If it's not in Hayman's original contract, it has zero bearing on his status. Although, I can't imagine an employment contract worth millions not having a clause about cooperation. Hell, that's in every insurance policy issued.
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When can we expect to see the Harsin Dossier?
This feels a little 2015ish...
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When can we expect to see the Harsin Dossier?
This feels a little 2015ish...
Coach Haversham peed on Russian hookers?
I want to party with you, cowboy.
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It is times like these that I, personally, miss GF. I know most of you hated him. But during tumultuous times, he was always good for a very mildly entertaining comment.
But I would chuckle for 1 or 2 seconds at that one.
He gave the best mustache rides.
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Can we get back to Buzz Donkey Punching Wiregrass? Because I'd pay good money to see that.
It will not be the first time that I have been donkey punched.
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Although, I can't imagine an employment contract worth millions not having a clause about cooperation. Hell, that's in every insurance policy issued.
There you go again and start thinking like a normal, rational human. This is the Auburn Admin we're talking about. They'd fuck up a wet dream.
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It will not be the first time that I have been donkey punched.
By Buzz?
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By Buzz?
Well, yeah, the first time by Buzz. He has usually been nicer but he warned me not to campaign for bringing Gus back.
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Well, yeah, the first time by Buzz. He has usually been nicer but he warned me not to campaign for bringing Gus back.
Will Buzz let me gift a Donkey Punch? So maybe if I jump on the Gus Bus, he could give one to snags?
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Will Buzz let me gift a Donkey Punch? So maybe if I jump on the Gus Bus, he could give one to snags?
i doubt he’d have a problem with that.
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If it's not in Hayman's original contract, it has zero bearing on his status. Although, I can't imagine an employment contract worth millions not having a clause about cooperation. Hell, that's in every insurance policy issued.
It's already in his contract.
Why they made the update to the blanket university policy? who knows.
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So this feels like Hastings is saying “Fuck you” and yellafella is saying “no, fuck you”.
I’m setting the over/under at four wins next year.
Harper is probably not the answer but fuck Jimmy Rane for trying to fuck him out of his 18 mil. Either support him as we should or give the man his money.
He’s not ready for prime time but we hired him, Jimmy. Fuck you for treating this team like it’s yours.
A redneck with lots of money can make an entire university look idiotic. We have certainly seen that a time or two.
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Humperdink had to sneak in the back door at the coaches meeting today. That's gonna be great for recruiting.
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Humperdink had to sneak in the back door at the coaches meeting today. That's gonna be great for recruiting.
I’ve snuck it in the back door a time or two myself.
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It's already in his contract.
Why they made the update to the blanket university policy? who knows.
Must not be in Lord Bruce's. When the Person shit came down the pike, he lawyered up and told everyone, including AU, to go go fuck yourselves.
But then, he is Lord Bruce!
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Humperdink had to sneak in the back door at the coaches meeting today. That's gonna be great for recruiting.
It was the side door. No need to give the piranhas what they want.
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Must not be in Lord Bruce's. When the Person shit came down the pike, he lawyered up and told everyone, including AU, to go go fuck yourselves.
But then, he is Lord Bruce!
This reminds me, I’m not sure how familiar you or anyone else is with this acronym but I hope that you’ll feel free to GFY.
It’s not the same as Michael Jackson’s PYT, I’ll tell you that much. But you can still sing it. From me to you. With love.
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It was the side door. No need to give the piranhas what they want.
They found him on his way out and he gave some great soundbytes.
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He got in the wrong car.
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He got in the wrong car.
You mean the one from Boise that was coming to Auburn?
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He got in the wrong car.
He didn't get in the clown car?
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Should I stay or should I go? Da na na na na na na na
If I go there will be trouble
If I stay there will be double
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Calling us a clown show is an insult to Ringling Brothers.
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Coach stays
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Coach stays
I have already forgotten whose side I was on.
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I have already forgotten whose side I was on.
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The plastic surgeon's?
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With it looking like Coach Byron Hat Trick staying on The Planez, numerous questions come to mind.
What's the relationship between Harmon and the administration? Is it adversarial, and if so, can he do his job without thinking someone is always looking over his shoulder, waiting on him to screw up?
What started all of this, and why did Auburn make it public? The very purpose of the Changes thread, prior to any investigation, was to say all the coaches leaving/getting fired, along with so many players bolting, is not a good look. Maybe Havrins handling of those under him was shitty, but why put out a public statement that you're investigating the coach? Couldn't you have done that shit behind closed doors and not make any kind of statement, unless you were firing the man?
Who was behind doxxing the young assistant? Yes, I agree we'd all love to dox that fox. But who started the rumor about an affair, and who felt the need to put her pictures and contact info out on social media? I always maintained that Hatpin's wife knew she was his assistant at Boise, and I'm sure she knew full well that said hottie came to be part of his staff at Auburn. Do you think if something was actually going on, that the Lip Injection Princess wouldn't know?
Were there really one or more boosters who felt slighted when Hackman was hired, behind all this? That was definitely the consensus. That's always the assumption when anything goes on at Auburn. I heard all the speculation. I heard Finebaum announce to his audience, "Make no mistake, there are a few boosters at the heart of this." Well, was that actually the case? I have no idea. My inside sources don't go deeper than the guy who takes up tickets at the gate for A-Day.
Could this all have just been a situation where some players/coaches who left said some disturbing things about how the y claim they were treated, and that triggered an HR investigation. Is it really that simple and there was never any nefarious booster involvement? Again, I have no clue.
Will Hateman be bitter about all this, or will he learn from it? Honestly, the articles that did surface about his past stops at Arky State and Boise, don't paint a very flattering picture of the man. One from last year, puts Boise State's deficiencies squarely on Hampton's shoulders for his recruiting, or definite lack thereof.
And did I leave the iron on?
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Allow me to retort.
With it looking like Coach Byron Hat Trick staying on The Planez, numerous questions come to mind.
What's the relationship between Harmon and the administration? Is it adversarial, and if so, can he do his job without thinking someone is always looking over his shoulder, waiting on him to screw up? It is damaged beyond redemption. When I used to teach high school and we talked about the Declaration of Independence I told the kids it was like a couple breaking up. Once you say the words "I want out..." there's rarely any hope of getting it back.
What started all of this, and why did Auburn make it public? Auburn didn't. As I said from the jump, ass-chapped fuckos like Whale Marshall were prodded to blast him out of there by sewing public discord. The collapses against MSU and SC, the Feb Signing Day void, emboldened fucks like that. Him, al.communist, and all the other shitbags who love to smear us were on it prodded by an couple of equally ass-chapped big money morons. And if you look hard enough you'll also find a completely pissed off deddy hiding in the woodpile because Aubren didn't bend the knee to his would-be-king son. That's where it went sideways.
The very purpose of the Changes thread, prior to any investigation, was to say all the coaches leaving/getting fired, along with so many players bolting, is not a good look. Maybe Havrins handling of those under him was shitty, but why put out a public statement that you're investigating the coach? Couldn't you have done that shit behind closed doors and not make any kind of statement, unless you were firing the man? Because Auburn's administration is fucking retarded. Always has been. We can't keep our shit under the sheets like our gay sisters across the state
Who was behind doxxing the young assistant? Yes, I agree we'd all love to dox that fox. But who started the rumor about an affair, and who felt the need to put her pictures and contact info out on social media? I always maintained that Hatpin's wife knew she was his assistant at Boise, and I'm sure she knew full well that said hottie came to be part of his staff at Auburn. Do you think if something was actually going on, that the Lip Injection Princess wouldn't know? Fat Phillip Marshall is where it started. Because somebody (or somebodies) told him to. I'm telling you where to look. His kid just agreed to walk on at Clemson.
Were there really one or more boosters who felt slighted when Hackman was hired, behind all this? That was definitely the consensus. That's always the assumption when anything goes on at Auburn. I heard all the speculation. I heard Finebaum announce to his audience, "Make no mistake, there are a few boosters at the heart of this." Well, was that actually the case? I have no idea. My inside sources don't go deeper than the guy who takes up tickets at the gate for A-Day. Yes. They want Hurtchins and they wanted to assassinate Greene at the same time
Could this all have just been a situation where some players/coaches who left said some disturbing things about how the y claim they were treated, and that triggered an HR investigation. Is it really that simple and there was never any nefarious booster involvement? Again, I have no clue. No. It wasn't. They piled on when they thought they could hurt the man that didn't let them play. But kids who aren't used to being pushed getting their feelings hurt when he didn't give a fuck about their bullshit and wanted performance? Yeah, let's complain. Saying he treated them like dogs? We live in a knee-jerk society and you know the palefaces at AU were shaking in their boots over a possible racial angle to it. Don't forget, AU is trying really hard to be woke.
Will Hateman be bitter about all this, or will he learn from it? Honestly, the articles that did surface about his past stops at Arky State and Boise, don't paint a very flattering picture of the man. One from last year, puts Boise State's deficiencies squarely on Hampton's shoulders for his recruiting, or definite lack thereof. Doensn't much matter. He's dead man walking. He will find loneliness on the recruiting trail after this and his reputation will suffer.
And did I leave the iron on? You did, but Hartman's wife is using it to scorch her lips
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All of the people in the know are saying it was definitely a power play by certain boosters. Only people who are wannabe connected are saying anything otherwise.
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Now that all the smoke has settled, I am disappoint in Hargraves.
No, not because of his racism. Not because he can't keep players or coaches happy. Not because he hates to recruit.
Because he really isn't hitting that assistant.
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Now that all the smoke has settled, I am disappoint in Hargraves.
No, not because of his racism. Not because he can't keep players or coaches happy. Not because he hates to recruit.
Because he really isn't hitting that assistant.
Well, don’t be too hasty. As I said earlier, I don’t have a lot of connections at Auburn, but one that I do have swears that tapping the pooty is grounds for a promotion in the athletic department. If this young lady is suddenly the head of HR, rest assured that she rode the high hard one.
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That was a nasty chapter in the long history of this football program. Can it work out long term? I don't know but sure seems like not because of all the factors involved. Where does it lead? Impossible to predict anymore. Facts are facts; our power structure has not been aligned since Pat Dye was there. In spite of that, success still happened because a) talent will come to Auburn; b) talented people get a lot out of those players and take advantage of opportunities.
It'll always be War Eagle for me even though it feels like we are heading into a dark cave for a bit. But every cave has an end and I do believe it will swing back our way again someday.
Someday...
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Now that all the smoke has settled, I am disappoint in Hargraves.
No, not because of his racism. Not because he can't keep players or coaches happy. Not because he hates to recruit.
Because he really isn't hitting that assistant.
Her lips are too small.
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I don’t have a lot of connections at Auburn
No shit?
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That was a nasty chapter in the long history of this football program. Can it work out long term? I don't know but sure seems like not because of all the factors involved. Where does it lead? Impossible to predict anymore. Facts are facts; our power structure has not been aligned since Pat Dye was there. In spite of that, success still happened because a) talent will come to Auburn; b) talented people get a lot out of those players and take advantage of opportunities.
It'll always be War Eagle for me even though it feels like we are heading into a dark cave for a bit. But every cave has an end and I do believe it will swing back our way again someday.
Someday...
I’m getting too old for this shit.
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I would behoove you to check out the Assistant, Clesi Crochet, on IG. She appears to be a well rounded individual.
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I have a lot of respect for you Ben so I want to encourage you to never read any of this Goodman shit.
Everything the man writes is shit. He’s a fraud.
The biggest thing this loser ever did was marry Roseanne.
No matter what happens to Coach Hadley, Goodman will find a way to praise Nick Saban, talk shit about AU and call for mask mandates.
#fuckgoodman
His mom should be ashamed of having him.
First of all, let's get one thing straight, the best thing Goodman ever did, was his performance as Walter.
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Bryman Hairpin made it through the investigation into how he treats players and coaches. He has a second chance. So, maybe he needs to tweak his personality. But what he needs to do more is fix this shit. This upcoming recruiting season finds Alabama with more top 100 high school players than everybody in the country, with the exception of Florida and Texas. One of the best talent pools ever in the State. This little copy/pasta from the Montgomery Advertiser doesn't give me the feels. Eufaula is 45 minutes from Auburn. They have a couple of those players. He's never been.
Longtime Thompson coach Mark Freeman said that he has never met Harsin when asked after National Signing Day. He has heard similarly from other Birmingham coaches. Harsin hadn’t been to Thompson.
It's a recurring theme: Seven of the 14 coaches who spoke with the Advertiser had not met Harsin. Whether or not that’s a serious concern varies depending on the coach. Some believe it’s unreasonable to expect Harsin to contact every in-state school so quickly. Others said the bare minimum is to have made that a top priority by now. A number of coaches were baffled that they haven't interacted with Auburn's head coach. One said Harsin's continued absence is "just insane to me." An extended COVID-19 recruiting dead period ended June 1, 2021.
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Or maybe Brad Heimlich is insane like a fox!
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So the Thompson coach, who is as bad a Bill Clark, whines because Hardbanger hasn’t swooned him?
Corch Hillbarger will get there. He’s been too busy fighting off the trash half of AU for a bit now.
The coaches who have met him, really seem to like him.
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So the Thompson coach, who is as bad a Bill Clark, whines because Hardbanger hasn’t swooned him?
Corch Hillbarger will get there. He’s been too busy fighting off the trash half of AU for a bit now.
The coaches who have met him, really seem to like him.
Yeah, this is just more smear from the AL media.
I'm becoming more of a fan every day. Dude is going to do it his way and you can gargle his balls if you don't like it. Been a LONG time since we had anyone with that kind of moxie walking around the football facility.
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Yeah, this is just more smear from the AL media.
I'm becoming more of a fan every day. Dude is going to do it his way and you can gargle his balls if you don't like it. Been a LONG time since we had anyone with that kind of moxie walking around the football facility.
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Yeah, this is just more smear from the AL media.
I'm becoming more of a fan every day. Dude is going to do it his way and you can gargle his balls if you don't like it. Been a LONG time since we had anyone with that kind of moxie walking around the football facility.
Speaking of, you can gargle my balls again, if you want.
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Yeah, this is just more smear from the AL media.
I'm becoming more of a fan every day. Dude is going to do it his way and you can gargle his balls if you don't like it. Been a LONG time since we had anyone with that kind of moxie walking around the football facility.
So, honest question here. What, besides a pair of heavy, hairy balls, makes you feel that way?
I'm not calling for the guy's ouster. I want every AU corch to kick ass. But, other than him being a bit of a hard ass, I can't find much positive that's gone on in his first year plus. Let's see:
He fired two of the coaches he interviewed and hired.
His DC couldn't get away from him fast enough. Took a $400K pay cut to leave.
More assistants left of their own accord.
He's currently riding a 5 game losing streak, something that's happened maybe once in how many decades?
He had an unheard of 20 players jump in the portal, many of which were from his first recruiting class.
His second recruiting class was the lowest ranked since 2009, by a good bit. In addition, he didn't sign one player on National Signing Day. In fact, in the last days leading up to NSD, Hartman was schmoozing for the cameras at the Senior Bowl instead of trying to close hard on some much needed talent.
Smear tactic or not, coaches at the biggest high school programs in the State are saying they never met the man.
He apparently pissed off enough people that the University opened a very public investigation on how he treats people. Yeah, I get it. Saban is an asshole too. But, we didn't sell our souls to Satan like Bama did.
I guess you could point to him hiring Ike Hilliard.
Again, I hope Hairlip turns out to be the real deal. I'll be pulling for him. But, I don't see much to go on so far.
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So, honest question here. What, besides a pair of heavy, hairy balls, makes you feel that way?
Jesus, you read so much AL media.
He fired two of the coaches he interviewed and hired.
I've had to correct course after some shithead couldn't get on the team.
His DC couldn't get away from him fast enough. Took a $400K pay cut to leave.
That was internet-true. Any verification? Admittedly, if true, it's something that could be concerning but only if the head man was in the wrong. Do we know that? We do know that the defense got a fuckton better in the wake of Mason's departure.
More assistants left of their own accord.
We all used to praise Tuberville for wanting assistants with aspirations. So, any particular parts of this got you butt-chapped?
He's currently riding a 5 game losing streak, something that's happened maybe once in how many decades?
After his first year and an entire culture overhaul.
He had an unheard of 20 players jump in the portal, many of which were from his first recruiting class.
Can you verify that 20 is "unheard of"? It may be a lot, but what were the net additions?
His second recruiting class was the lowest ranked since 2009, by a good bit. In addition, he didn't sign one player on National Signing Day. In fact, in the last days leading up to NSD, Hartman was schmoozing for the cameras at the Senior Bowl instead of trying to close hard on some much needed talent.
This is the laziest/worst take of all. Recruiting rankings are in a state of flux until anyone figures out how to account for the portal. Fuck a ranking...show me the roster.
At every turn, when criticized by the legacy media and their Auburn shills...he says "FUCK YOU. You hired me to do a job and I'm going to do it. Want me to leave my vacay early because you ginned up a bullshit rumor? FUCK YOU. You hired me to do a job and I'm going to do it. Some hilljack HS bumpkin isn't getting his balls tugged on the reg? FUCK YOU. You hired me to do a job and I'm going to do it.
Respeck like Aretha demanded.
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Too much wrong to address it all. A few:
No, I don't read AL DOT I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth. or much else Alabama media related. I pulled up that article because it was being talked about on two talk shows today. What was it about that piece that said high school coaches were feeling jilted because Harpins wasn't massaging their balls? Answer, not a damn thing. They were pointing out the fact that HE HAS NEVER ONCE EVEN TALKED TO THEM!!! That's how this thing works. That's how you get the top talent in your program. If you're okay with him neglecting the life blood of any program, maybe you're the one massaging his balls. Ha! Take that! BOOM!
So, let's talk recruiting. I'll agree the rankings aren't all that and a bag of Wavy Lays. In 2009, we finished 23rd according to 247. But when you look at the guys in that class who wound up being major contributors to a Natty, like Nick Unfairley and Emory Blake, that pretty much dispels that theory. However, we have one major need in this class. ONE! And one is exactly what we got. One fucking O-lineman. If you have no O-line, you have zero chance at success. We're fucked for the foreseeable future.
We had 20 jump in the portal. We had 5 jump out of the portal and land in Auburn. Still no offensive linemen. And again, not one signature on National Signing Day.
I'm not butt-chapped about assistants having aspirations. The question though, is did Austin Davis leave because he had aspirations? You know, the 32 year old QB coach who he hired as OC, despite never having been one in his life. He lasted 43 days. Nice pick up, Hasbeenz.
Let's also talk losing streak. Culture change my ass. Several of those losses were squarely on him for making dumbass decisions that you can't deflect to anyone else. Hey, let's take Tank Bigsby out of the game and go for it on 4th and 1 in our own territory. Hey Mike, what play do we have dialed up? Oh, a 25 yard pass down field into triple coverage? Mmmm...sounds good. (BTW, Tank had 166 yards that night)
Hey Ref. Time out. Time out. Uh, Coach Mason, could you step over here for one second? How are things with you? Good? How's the wife? Say, listen. I don't know if you noticed this or not, but that Rogers kid has completed 369 passes in a row. I know, right? So, yeeeeeaaaah, I'm gonna' need you to NOT RUSH 3 ANYMORE. How bout that? Great. Good to see you. Let's get two.
You see, I asked for anything positive to hang his hat on. All I got was excuses, and this man has hairy balls. Respeck is earned.
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The coaches who have met him, really seem to like him.
Both of them?
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Both of them?
Yes.
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I wish I could agree 100% with the basketball jinx. I really do. I do believe Auburn needs a no nonsense, hey fuck yo momma kind of coarch to make the big money boosters take a couple steps back. Is Baron von Hate the answer? At first I thought so. Halfway through the season, I still thought so. From halftime of the Miss State game until today, I have my doubts.
And no, it's not because he lost 1/4 of his team to the portal. Pat Dye, Saban, Vince Dooley, et.al. have had the same kind of roster turnover before, during and after their first year. No...it's not because he has also lost 1/4 of his coaching staff to the other portal. Whether or not it was by his own accord, hiring Bobo, Mason, the kid from Troy and Etheridge was a good way to make some 'cruitin inroads in the SEC. He realized really early that Corn was a mistake, so he did something about it. We could all see that Bobo was a mistake and he did something about that the day after the season ended. Mason was the one head scratcher. No idea which version of the story is right, but either way perception is reality today, so it had a really bad look. Losing Eason (now he's on my list) was the cost of doing business in big time football. Davis? All I can say about that is WTF? Much like Mason, no matter which version of the truth you choose to believe, it is a bad look period. Still, all that said, Boomer Hehateme now has a mix of guys he is comfortable with and a few Auburn guys that can recruit lights out. Seems like a good mix for any coach not a part of the Saban home for wayward coaches.
The one thing that really scares the hell out of me is his inability to recruit in state. He sounds like he is taking the Tuberville approach from 2005-2008. Take 3 star kids that are hungry and try to motivate them to beat the schools with the 5 stars. Didn't really work for Tubs and I seriously doubt it will work now. The lack of OL recruiting is disheartening to say the least...although there are actually like 104 offensive linemen coming back this season. The tackle spot in particular is the place he has to start building for the future with.
All in all, I am still willing to give the guy a chance (like I really have a choice). I just want it all and I want it now.
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I wish I could agree 100% with the basketball jinx. I really do. I do believe Auburn needs a no nonsense, hey fuck yo momma kind of coarch to make the big money boosters take a couple steps back. Is Baron von Hate the answer? At first I thought so. Halfway through the season, I still thought so. From halftime of the Miss State game until today, I have my doubts.
And no, it's not because he lost 1/4 of his team to the portal. Pat Dye, Saban, Vince Dooley, et.al. have had the same kind of roster turnover before, during and after their first year. No...it's not because he has also lost 1/4 of his coaching staff to the other portal. Whether or not it was by his own accord, hiring Bobo, Mason, the kid from Troy and Etheridge was a good way to make some 'cruitin inroads in the SEC. He realized really early that Corn was a mistake, so he did something about it. We could all see that Bobo was a mistake and he did something about that the day after the season ended. Mason was the one head scratcher. No idea which version of the story is right, but either way perception is reality today, so it had a really bad look. Losing Eason (now he's on my list) was the cost of doing business in big time football. Davis? All I can say about that is WTF? Much like Mason, no matter which version of the truth you choose to believe, it is a bad look period. Still, all that said, Boomer Hehateme now has a mix of guys he is comfortable with and a few Auburn guys that can recruit lights out. Seems like a good mix for any coach not a part of the Saban home for wayward coaches.
The one thing that really scares the hell out of me is his inability to recruit in state. He sounds like he is taking the Tuberville approach from 2005-2008. Take 3 star kids that are hungry and try to motivate them to beat the schools with the 5 stars. Didn't really work for Tubs and I seriously doubt it will work now. The lack of OL recruiting is disheartening to say the least...although there are actually like 104 offensive linemen coming back this season. The tackle spot in particular is the place he has to start building for the future with.
All in all, I am still willing to give the guy a chance (like I really have a choice). I just want it all and I want it now.
I heart your post.
BTW, Lord Saybinz just hired Corn Williams as an "analyst".
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The Austin Davis thing is about the easiest to explain away and I don't understand why it has some of youse up in your pantyfeels.
Dude is an NFL lifer. We tried to hire a guy out of that world while the playoffs were still ongoing. He likely got a better offer to stay in a league where he knew the lay of the land. Too big a risk to make a wholesale lifestyle change.
Anyone remember Rich Bisaccia's cup of coffee on the AU staff???
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The Austin Davis thing is about the easiest to explain away and I don't understand why it has some of youse up in your pantyfeels.
Dude is an NFL lifer. We tried to hire a guy out of that world while the playoffs were still ongoing. He likely got a better offer to stay in a league where he knew the lay of the land. Too big a risk to make a wholesale lifestyle change.
Anyone remember Rich Bisaccia's cup of coffee on the AU staff???
Was he the one that made the decision to go with the cheap copy paper?
And for the record, which NFL team did Davis move to? I hadn't heard anything about his next move after leaving Hullabaloo's staff.
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The Austin Davis thing is about the easiest to explain away and I don't understand why it has some of youse up in your pantyfeels.
Dude is an NFL lifer. We tried to hire a guy out of that world while the playoffs were still ongoing. He likely got a better offer to stay in a league where he knew the lay of the land. Too big a risk to make a wholesale lifestyle change.
Anyone remember Rich Bisaccia's cup of coffee on the AU staff???
What Buzz said. Unless it's been kept a secret for some reason, he hasn't taken another job. Plus, the Seasquawks were 7-10 with no chance of a playoff berth.
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You guys are correct. No subsequent announcement on Davis's status.
Still think it's the weakest of the weak sauce complaints about Harsin.
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You guys are correct. No subsequent announcement on Davis's status.
Still think it's the weakest of the weak sauce complaints about Harsin.
My former CIO always said that perception is reality. It's just not a good look...but not any reason to start watching for pieces of the sky coming down.
Like I said, my only real point of contention revolves around the recruiting. The rest doesn't look great, but then again neither does Snaggs nekkid.
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My former CIO always said that perception is reality. It's just not a good look...but not any reason to start watching for pieces of the sky coming down.
Like I said, my only real point of contention revolves around the recruiting. The rest doesn't look great, but then again neither does Snaggs nekkid.
You can kiss my ass. Recruiting is not that bad.
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My deal with former Corch Austin Texas was that it was a head scratcher for me from the start. His total resume was that he played QB in college and the NFL up until 2019. He was Assistant QB Corch for one year, and QB Corch for another year. That's it. And Byron Hardline hires him as his Offensive Coordinator, in the toughest conference in the land. The fuck did that come from?
All I could think of was Coach Shrek hiring a DC last year who had never held that position before. LSU sucked and Yaw Yaw got canned.
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My deal with former Corch Austin Texas was that it was a head scratcher for me from the start. His total resume was that he played QB in college and the NFL up until 2019. He was Assistant QB Corch for one year, and QB Corch for another year. That's it. And Byron Hardline hires him as his Offensive Coordinator, in the toughest conference in the land. The fuck did that come from?
All I could think of was Coach Shrek hiring a DC last year who had never held that position before. LSU sucked and Yaw Yaw got canned.
Fair enough. I guess I'm tired of the recycling of coaches through the conference (See: Bobo, Mike). New blood/ideas is what I want, man!
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Fair enough. I guess I'm tired of the recycling of coaches through the conference (See: Bobo, Mike). New blood/ideas is what I want, man!
I'm on board with that. I actually didn't have a problem with Bobo at first. Wasn't pumped about the hire, but I was happy to have someone new, who would run just about anything other than the same old, tired shit Gus kept running. Every coach in America had figured that offense out.
But, it looked to me like everyone had figured Bobo out as well, especially in the last half of the season. It wasn't just that we were losing. It was more that we would start out games strong, and then every team would go, "Oh, we got this", and shut us down. It's like we would script the first 15 plays and then, "I got nuthin". I felt sorry for TJ in the Bama game, because they did nothing to take any pressure off him. 2 runs and a deep drop.
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The Austin Davis thing is about the easiest to explain away and I don't understand why it has some of youse up in your pantyfeels.
Dude is an NFL lifer. We tried to hire a guy out of that world while the playoffs were still ongoing. He likely got a better offer to stay in a league where he knew the lay of the land. Too big a risk to make a wholesale lifestyle change.
Anyone remember Rich Bisaccia's cup of coffee on the AU staff???
"he likely got"
Link please.
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So, we have Eric Kiesau as our OC. It looks like he had 1 1/2 seasons with Coach Hamptons. In 2019, Boise averaged right at 35 ppg with 262 passing and 168 running.
2020 was the Rona season and they only played a handful of games. Plus, who knows if they had a full roster with players opting out etc.
I expect our D to be solid again, so I'd take 35 a game and 430 yards per game every week in a heartbeat.
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So, we have Eric Kiesau as our OC. It looks like he had 1 1/2 seasons with Coach Hamptons. In 2019, Boise averaged right at 35 ppg with 262 passing and 168 running.
2020 was the Rona season and they only played a handful of games. Plus, who knows if they had a full roster with players opting out etc.
I expect our D to be solid again, so I'd take 35 a game and 430 yards per game every week in a heartbeat.
You'll get 17 points and 298 yards a game and like it.
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You'll get 17 points and 298 yards a game and like it.
I waaannt a hamburger.....no...a cheeseburger.
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As hard as it is to say at this point, I just can’t muster a shit.
Handjob is bland and uninspiring. No matter how hard some of you are licking his balls, kaos is telling you right now …. This is a nuclear disaster.
He’s got all the personality of wallpaper paste. All the charisma of a tree stump.
He’s never - and I mean never- going to fit. His wacky ass family is never going to fit.
Keeping him now is more damaging to the program than just eating the pain for a year or two.
And I don’t even care. Tired of it.
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All hat, no cattle again?
I’ll take one of them national championships again.
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All hat, no cattle again?
I’ll take one of them national championships again.
No hat. No cattle. No fence. No pasture. No barn. No meat. No milk.
Famine.
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No hat. No cattle. No fence. No pasture. No barn. No meat. No milk.
Famine.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much….
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Methinks the lady doth protest too much….
I hate being right. But I am.
Yeah, chizik had one big cow on loan from God. Other than that? I’m batting 1000.