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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on October 05, 2015, 03:58:45 PM
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changing our strength corch? Probably not. He hasn't thrown any interceptions so far to my knowledge. And I don't think he's calling any of the plays either. But one common theme to this season in the first 5 games is that we're getting our tails whipped on both sides of the line. Wait, that was the case most all of last year too. LSU wasn't just Fournette. Those ESPN highlight plays where he made kitty litter of our DB's happened where? Yep, all in the secondary. He didn't run over Montravelosity or Dontavious or J'auntavious or Latrondavious at the line. Nope, they all had 320 pound linemen sitting on them, giving them noogies and wedgies.
Who here either said out loud or at least thought to themselves more than 5 times against both Division 5 JSU and Air Force's bitch, SJS...."Damn, we are getting our shit pushed in on the line"? :meme:
That training video just before the season was impressive. And I'll be the first to say that I guarantee there's not a better "conditioned" team in the country. But going fast from set to set to set doesn't help you when some monster who squats 600 and bench presses school busses is lined up across from you. Plyometrics and Crossfit and Yoga and Pilates aren't something you can use to push the center back into the backfield and disrupt a play. And I doubt that time after time after time, they're giving up 6-7-8 yards a running play because of taking the wrong angles and gaps and mesh points and any other dumbass football term you can use. Day gettin' day fanny whipped in da' trenches....both sides.
Part of me understands the play calling Saturday. We could do just enough running the ball to keep our distance from them. Why drop Sean back to throw when the only way we can keep them off of him is for Shon Holdman to get flagged for another 15? We recruited Braden Smith because he could bench press a building, then promptly dropped 15-20 pounds off the man.
No, I'm not saying this would cure all our ills. There's certainly more to it than that. But wouldn't it be nice to know that Slippery Rock wasn't going to come in JHS and big boy us?
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Tubs recruited small fast LB's.
It could be an issue, but I don't think it is.
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Tubs recruited small fast LB's.
It could be an issue, but I don't think it is.
He also had a Yoxall. Now granted, Yoxall wasn't totally about massive strength. Went to a couple of his seminars. But I'm pretty sure his philosophy was far more geared to strength than is stressed in this program. Fine to have smaller, faster LB's when you have guys like Demarco McNeil or Tommy Jackson or Spenser Johnson or Jeremy Ratliff beating people up on the interior.
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He also had a Yoxall. Now granted, Yoxall wasn't totally about massive strength. Went to a couple of his seminars. But I'm pretty sure his philosophy was far more geared to strength than is stressed in this program. Fine to have smaller, faster LB's when you have guys like Demarco McNeil or Tommy Jackson or Spenser Johnson or Jeremy Ratliff beating people up on the interior.
Chizik had Yoxall too.
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changing our strength corch? Probably not. He hasn't thrown any interceptions so far to my knowledge. And I don't think he's calling any of the plays either. But one common theme to this season in the first 5 games is that we're getting our tails whipped on both sides of the line. Wait, that was the case most all of last year too. LSU wasn't just Fournette. Those ESPN highlight plays where he made kitty litter of our DB's happened where? Yep, all in the secondary. He didn't run over Montravelosity or Dontavious or J'auntavious or Latrondavious at the line. Nope, they all had 320 pound linemen sitting on them, giving them noogies and wedgies.
Who here either said out loud or at least thought to themselves more than 5 times against both Division 5 JSU and Air Force's bitch, SJS...."Damn, we are getting our shit pushed in on the line"? :meme:
That training video just before the season was impressive. And I'll be the first to say that I guarantee there's not a better "conditioned" team in the country. But going fast from set to set to set doesn't help you when some monster who squats 600 and bench presses school busses is lined up across from you. Plyometrics and Crossfit and Yoga and Pilates aren't something you can use to push the center back into the backfield and disrupt a play. And I doubt that time after time after time, they're giving up 6-7-8 yards a running play because of taking the wrong angles and gaps and mesh points and any other dumbass football term you can use. Day gettin' day fanny whipped in da' trenches....both sides.
Part of me understands the play calling Saturday. We could do just enough running the ball to keep our distance from them. Why drop Sean back to throw when the only way we can keep them off of him is for Shon Holdman to get flagged for another 15? We recruited Braden Smith because he could bench press a building, then promptly dropped 15-20 pounds off the man.
No, I'm not saying this would cure all our ills. There's certainly more to it than that. But wouldn't it be nice to know that Slippery Rock wasn't going to come in JHS and big boy us?
Our tackles will make an NFL roster as ends bc they are playing out of position. If we had three legit tackles that could tie up the middle and could work Swain into something we would have the greatest rotation of ends ever assembled on a football field. We don't have tackles and that is on Malzahn.
Muschamp is trying to work with aggressive ends that won't fill the role of space eaters. They hate that shit.
Makes our LB play look ever shoddier bc they are giving chase all over the field and the nexus as to why our linebacker's don't lead in tackles. We have talent...we just don't have any big inside guys to do what we could do. I don't want a fucking kicker, punter or longsnapper offered a gd thing ahead of inside beef.
We can't beat teams without big powerful tackles and we have none.
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Two words.......Tony Horton!
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Two words.......Tony Horton!
We need Izzy Mandlebaum.
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We need Izzy Mandlebaum.
You think you're the world's greatest Dad? It's GO TIME!
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Chizik had Yoxall too.
Championship, bitch!
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You think you're the world's greatest Dad? It's GO TIME!
Mandlebaum! Mandlebaum! Mandlebaum!
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We need Izzy Mandlebaum.
PPPPPFffffffffttttttt.....Tony would bring in his assistant Pam The Blam and make the team "BRING IT" all day everyday!
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The way to get more out of the biguns is though their stomaches. Uncle Miltie needs to buy some serious meat and let these boys EAT when they perform well.
Fuck a crabclaw!
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Remember last year when our special teams sucked and people were wanting to fire Fountain? I've seen Jack Crowe tweeting a lot over the last 2 weeks about leadership in the locker room and I think that's what it all boils down too. The reason we are struggling in the trenches isn't becauswour guys aren't strong enough or big enough. Its because every couple of plays you have a guy doing the wrong thing and its fucking it all up. I've seen Braden Smith take MSU's DT and push the motherfucker 10 yards down the field, into the endzone, and pancake him. I've also seen Monty split a double team and almost take the handoff. Hell Cowart did the same thing last Saturday. However we also line up wrong alot on D and get out flanked. We have no defensive or offensive leader right now and it shows.
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Remember last year when our special teams sucked and people were wanting to fire Fountain? I've seen Jack Crowe tweeting a lot over the last 2 weeks about leadership in the locker room and I think that's what it all boils down too. The reason we are struggling in the trenches isn't becauswour guys aren't strong enough or big enough. Its because every couple of plays you have a guy doing the wrong thing and its fucking it all up. I've seen Braden Smith take MSU's DT and push the motherfucker 10 yards down the field, into the endzone, and pancake him. I've also seen Monty split a double team and almost take the handoff. Hell Cowart did the same thing last Saturday. However we also line up wrong alot on D and get out flanked. We have no defensive or offensive leader right now and it shows.
I get that and I can't disagree about leadership. But CONSISTENTLY getting blown off the ball by Jacksonville Fucking State and San JuanDiegoFrancisco State...over and over and over again...is not a leadership or alignment problem. LSU Buried our asses. Buried us. And on the offensive side of the ball, when 234 rushing yards 5 games into the season is your best, by far, when two of your opponents are those named above....somebody needs to quit training fast and decide to man up.
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I get that and I can't disagree about leadership. But CONSISTENTLY getting blown off the ball by Jacksonville Fucking State and San JuanDiegoFrancisco State...over and over and over again...is not a leadership or alignment problem. LSU Buried our asses. Buried us. And on the offensive side of the ball, when 234 rushing yards 5 games into the season is your best, by far, when two of your opponents are those named above....somebody needs to quit training fast and decide to man up.
Nick Fairley wasn't a workout champ.
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Nick Fairley wasn't a workout champ.
That's because size matters.
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Actually it is. How many times has Boom talked about a lack of communication between LBers? When you have 3 guys lined up on the weakside of the center and 1 DL on the strong side, you are going to get your shit pushed in. Don't matter how good you are when you are out of position before the ball is snapped. Same with the Oline. All it takes is one guy busting an assignment on the Oline to blow a play up. 2012 and 2013 are prime examples of what having leadership and not having leadership can do.
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But CONSISTENTLY getting blown off the ball by Jacksonville Fucking State and San JuanDiegoFrancisco State...
Did you not see all of the Samoans?
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Did you not see all of the Samoans?
Just glad they werent tongans. Whole team of those guys would almost certainly ensure a championship.
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Actually it is. How many times has Boom talked about a lack of communication between LBers? When you have 3 guys lined up on the weakside of the center and 1 DL on the strong side, you are going to get your shit pushed in. Don't matter how good you are when you are out of position before the ball is snapped. Same with the Oline. All it takes is one guy busting an assignment on the Oline to blow a play up. 2012 and 2013 are prime examples of what having leadership and not having leadership can do.
So, each and every team we play from powerhouses like JSU to San Quentin State are blowing us off the ball time after time after time.....after time....because we're not lined up right? On 90% of the pass plays, we're stalemated at the line with virtually nobody able to beat the man in front of them because we lack leadership?
Damn it guys, that was a 12 play drive and they ran it right up the gut every play. What the hell was that?
Sorry Coach. But nobody told us where to line up.
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So, each and every team we play from powerhouses like JSU to San Quentin State are blowing us off the ball time after time after time.....after time....because we're not lined up right? On 90% of the pass plays, we're stalemated at the line with virtually nobody able to beat the man in front of them because we lack leadership?
Damn it guys, that was a 12 play drive and they ran it right up the gut every play. What the hell was that?
Sorry Coach. But nobody told us where to line up.
That's why I was so pissed on Saturday. A Sun Belt (or whatever little conference) team manhandled our D-line. At one point in the game their RB had an average of over 9 yards per carry. I know he's a good back, but come on. That is the shit that really has me worried, and not expecting a bowl game this year.
UGA is going to do nothing but feed it to Chubb, and the turds are just going to feed it to Henry. Those two games are going to be ugly for us.
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Bump Biddy Bump Ba Dump Bump Bump.
So, I'm clicking through some strength & training videos on the U-Toobs, looking for Auburn stuff. I mistakenly click on an Ole Miss 2015 training video and the very first thing on the clip...is a guy squatting heavy weight. I eventually saw a clip of Ryan Russell explaining his philosophy heading into the 2014 season. The interviewer asked him about what incoming freshman should expect. And what I heard was....BINGO...exactly what I been talking about.
He said a new guy will NOT bench at all. He needs to get used to going fast and doing exercises that put him through the full range of motion. Look, this is not a fire Gus take. This is coming from someone who now despises rumors and conjecture. I hope Gus and all the coaches turn it around and kick ass. But how many times have you heard the shit about how defenses will catch up to his gimmicky, high school offense? It has nothing to do with that. They've caught up to guys in the trenches that don't live on the squat rack. That aren't bench pressing busses. We're weak as hell in the front 7 on D and we blow no one off the ball on O. Why...?
Wait...let me ask some guys who have some knowledge of what the inside of a weight room looks like. Buzz...simp...Jumbo...Prowlie...anyone else......do you get massive leg strength by going fast in the weight room? Set to set to set? Do you get the ability to raise up and push back a 315 pound man in front of you by doing plyometrics and yoga? You know damn well you don't.
Go back and read anything on our strength and training program from the day Gus got here. It's all about fast, fast, fast. Set to set to set. This is NOT acceptable for the guys in the trenches. No way, shape, form or fashion. You can get extra conditioning to go "fast" in the game. But if you can't take a bar full of weight and explode through it....you will get beat over and over and over. Because the 315 pound guy in front of you can squat 600 for reps, while you can squat down on one leg and hold a 50 pound dumbbell over your head for 20 seconds....and then quickly move to another set.
That's Malzahn's philosophy. We can bitch about Jeremy and play calling and not being in the right sets and God knows what. We're weak in the trenches. Always will be. Nothing will get totally fixed until that changes. We may become more competitive. We will NEVER compete for the West until this philosophy changes.
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Bump Biddy Bump Ba Dump Bump Bump.
So, I'm clicking through some strength & training videos on the U-Toobs, looking for Auburn stuff. I mistakenly click on an Ole Miss 2015 training video and the very first thing on the clip...is a guy squatting heavy weight. I eventually saw a clip of Ryan Russell explaining his philosophy heading into the 2014 season. The interviewer asked him about what incoming freshman should expect. And what I heard was....BINGO...exactly what I been talking about.
He said a new guy will NOT bench at all. He needs to get used to going fast and doing exercises that put him through the full range of motion. Look, this is not a fire Gus take. This is coming from someone who now despises rumors and conjecture. I hope Gus and all the coaches turn it around and kick ass. But how many times have you heard the shit about how defenses will catch up to his gimmicky, high school offense? It has nothing to do with that. They've caught up to guys in the trenches that don't live on the squat rack. That aren't bench pressing busses. We're weak as hell in the front 7 on D and we blow no one off the ball on O. Why...?
Wait...let me ask some guys who have some knowledge of what the inside of a weight room looks like. Buzz...simp...Jumbo...Prowlie...anyone else......do you get massive leg strength by going fast in the weight room? Set to set to set? Do you get the ability to raise up and push back a 315 pound man in front of you by doing plyometrics and yoga? You know damn well you don't.
Go back and read anything on our strength and training program from the day Gus got here. It's all about fast, fast, fast. Set to set to set. This is NOT acceptable for the guys in the trenches. No way, shape, form or fashion. You can get extra conditioning to go "fast" in the game. But if you can't take a bar full of weight and explode through it....you will get beat over and over and over. Because the 315 pound guy in front of you can squat 600 for reps, while you can squat down on one leg and hold a 50 pound dumbbell over your head for 20 seconds....and then quickly move to another set.
That's Malzahn's philosophy. We can bitch about Jeremy and play calling and not being in the right sets and God knows what. We're weak in the trenches. Always will be. Nothing will get totally fixed until that changes. We may become more competitive. We will NEVER compete for the West until this philosophy changes.
We won the SEC Championship and was less than 2 minutes away from winning the National Championship under this philosophy.
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Uh huh. And what's happened since then? It's also caught up to us. Weight training and building muscle takes time. 3 years off the squat rack and...
As I said, this is simple. It's foosballz 101. You win the war in the trenches, you win the ball game. You get pushed the fuck around by San Jose State, you get embarrassed. We haven't whipped a team up front in almost a year. Either side of the ball.
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You ever seen someone say something ignernt and be proven wrong but then just keep on sticking with the ignorance and digging a deeper hole?
Sad to watch if it weren't so entertaining.
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I kinda see your point, but you're using bro science whereas our S&C coach is probably using actual science.
We won the 2010 NC in Yox's strength program. Granted, we looked pretty damn weak in 2012, which was also Yox. But an argument - I guess - could be made that 2013's players were still built by Yox and 2015's players have been built by Russell.
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Funny story - Bo and Herschel outphysical'ed everyone they came in contact with under this philosophy. Im almost certain both barely touched weights. If the issue were an across the board kind of thing, Adams and Lawson wouldnt have their moments while everyone sucked donkey balls. Honestly, I think were reaching for shit trying to find out what the issue is. Most of your dominant linemen in the NFL probably arent the biggest weight room animals as far as numbers go. Case in point - Demarcus Ware had a more dominant career than Freeney or Kearse. Does anyone really think Fairley was that much more of a squat freak than Adams? Technique technique technique, and mental drive.....if Reggie White only taught us one thing. Same with David Pollack.
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Uh huh. And what's happened since then? It's also caught up to us. Weight training and building muscle takes time. 3 years off the squat rack and...
As I said, this is simple. It's foosballz 101. You win the war in the trenches, you win the ball game. You get pushed the fuck around by San Jose State, you get embarrassed. We haven't whipped a team up front in almost a year. Either side of the ball.
There is more to winning the LOS than just shear squat strength. The "strong as possible" philosophy at Bama has also ruined many players.
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The more to winning the LOS than just shear squat strength. The strong as possible philosophy at Bama has also ruined many players.
Engrish prease.
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Srsly, I don't have a clue if strength is an issue but I suspect that if it is, Muschamp will definitely address with Gus.
I haven't noticed the O line get pushed around but I'm not saying they haven't. I think the whole S&C philosophy leans more toward conditioning (or more emphasis than other programs) primarily because of Gus' HUNH offensive philosophy. That's why he says things like: If we can stay close till the 4th quarter we have a chance.
In some way, it's similar to the old 3 yard and a cloud of dust pounding numerous coaches employed in the 70's and 80's in that they were counting on the most physical team to pull away in the 4th.
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Engrish prease.
There....re-read ya big baby. Do I have to annunciate everything for you? Sheesh. I think you been cruising the mall at 10 AM with Flex too much.
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I doubt they aren't doing any squatting.
I still believe our biggest problem on d-line is the lack of true DT's, we don't have the meat on the interior of the line. You need big ol fat boys that can take two offensive lineman so that DT's can edge rush or you can push with a linebacker. Our DT's are built more like DE's.
Honestly I think this defense would be fine if we had two true DE's and 1 bad ass Linebacker. I know why Frost sat behind Jake.
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There....re-read ya big baby. Do I have to annunciate everything for you? Sheesh. I think you been cruising the mall at 10 AM with Flex too much.
Annunciating would be impossible. After all, we are on the innerwebz.
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I doubt they aren't doing any squatting.
I still believe our biggest problem on d-line is the lack of true DT's, we don't have the meat on the interior of the line. You need big ol fat boys that can take two offensive lineman so that DT's can edge rush or you can push with a linebacker. Our DT's are built more like DE's.
Honestly I think this defense would be fine if we had two true DE's and 1 bad ass Linebacker. I know why Frost sat behind Jake.
It's a shame that we have an abundance of fat asses on here that don't have any eligibility left.
We have a lot of Greek type bodies, unfortunately they are like Jimmy the Greek. Other than WT, of course. I'm in playing shape right damn now, if needed at QB.
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Yoga is the wave of the future, bro.
I can see where the OL would greatly benefit from the current training regimen. The DL; however, should be bench pressing Yugos and squatting small buildings...especially when they are playing the likes of Ellis Hugh and the Processors.
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Yoga is the wave of the future, bro.
I can see where the OL would greatly benefit from the current training regimen. The DL; however, should be bench pressing Yugos and squatting small buildings...especially when they are playing the likes of Ellis Hugh and the Processors.
^^Gets it^^
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I'm not sure if you remember this but there were times in the '10 season where we looked like shit and got shoved around all over the field, until the coach put in Zach Clayton or put Nick Fairley back in...don't forget the 2012 season, we got pushed to the limit by ULM. All of this happened under Yoxall. I remember people wondering if he'd lost his touch, because I was one of those people.
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I'm not sure if you remember this but there were times in the '10 season where we looked like shit and got shoved around all over the field, until the coach put in Zach Clayton or put Nick Fairley back in...don't forget the 2012 season, we got pushed to the limit by ULM. All of this happened under Yoxall. I remember people wondering if he'd lost his touch, because I was one of those people.
Listen we all get what your saying, Snags theory is stupid.
We agree, but you don't have to be so nasty about it.
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Listen we all get what your saying, Snags theory is stupid.
We agree, but you don't have to be so nasty about it.
Apparently Prowler misses Yoxalls touch.
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Apparently Prowler misses Yoxalls touch.
Yox did have soft hands. Wait...I mean, I heard he did. From Snags.
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Listen we all get what your saying, Snags theory is stupid.
We agree, but you don't have to be so nasty about it.
Been a while since Snags had to cut a bitch.
I don't have time for this shit. I've got a new Ryan Russell Crossfit WOD to go do, bro. And I need to stop by GNC for an energy bar first. Today's WOD begins with handstand pushups, then straight to the rope climb, 15 wall-balls and finishes with 20 kip-ups. Devaroe Lawrence tweeted that he did the first circuit in 4 minutes. Brooooooo.....
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Been a while since Snags had to cut a bitch.
I don't have time for this shit. I've got a new Ryan Russell Crossfit WOD to go do, bro. And I need to stop by GNC for an energy bar first. Today's WOD begins with handstand pushups, then straight to the rope climb, 15 wall-balls and finishes with 20 kip-ups. Devaroe Lawrence tweeted that he did the first circuit in 4 minutes. Brooooooo.....
Did you even WOD today bro?
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Did you even WOD today bro?
Bro, I said I had to go get my energy bar at GNC before I start my WOD. If I didn't, by the time I got to my 3rd set of kip-ups, I'd be torched, bro.
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I just think that we don't have any strength on the DL. Put Braden Smith at DT...then we'll have some strength, of course we'd lose that strength on offensive line, but whatever. We have quickness across the DL, but when a strong offensive lineman gets a hold of a quick defensive lineman, the OL will win all of the time.
I agree somewhat with Snags, that we aren't doing enough power lifting...or so it seems, but I also believe that we don't have the players that are already strong coming in. Remember a couple of years ago, when I said that it's sad when a incoming freshman (Braden Smith) is the strongest guy on the team. The next strongest guy was FB Jay Prosch who had transferred to the team the year before. If I'm recruiting the guys in the trenches, I'm looking for Power Lifters first...regardless of star ratings.
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It's a shame that we have an abundance of fat asses on here that don't have any eligibility left.
We have a lot of Greek type bodies, unfortunately they are like Jimmy the Greek. Other than WT, of course. I'm in playing shape right damn now, if needed at QB.
Sorry dude. We need a QB that can think. I was all state. I'll do it!
Sorry. I was drunk . I meant all city...
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Fuck the "What are you sick of" thread. I'm gonna put it here.
In 2003 -- 12 years ago -- we heard that Tuberville had to "simplify the playbook" for Jason Campbell.
Back when Tuberville took over for Bowden (1999, 16 years ago), there were complaints about our players not being strong enough and getting pushed around because we were soft and trying to be a finesse team.
I'm fucking SICK of that shit.
How many different motherfucking god fucked coaches have we had who've said shit about simplifying the playbook so this player or that player could get it? Muschamp's talking about it now for fuck's sake. Can't install all of his defense because apparently the players we have are too gottblam dumb to follow fucking instructions.
We've had this same curd-gurgling conversation about getting blown off the ball and being weak on the line at least three times.
Why. The. Fuck. Don't. Other.Programs. Have. These. Same. Repetitive. Issues? It's maddening.
Okay, so maybe they do. LSU can't find a quarterback for shit. Alabama players inhale performance enhancing drugs like Cheech and Chong inhale smoke. And they inhale that too. Georgia is going to get their star player injured and underperform every single year.
I'm sick of these same fucking conversations.
I'm probably alone in this sentiment, but I'd rather have Les Miles and eight or nine wins a year (and then the occasional spectacular one) than this soar, crash, soar, crash shit that just frustrates me and makes me not care.
I would NOT take Saban. Or Richt. Or PEDelWain. Or Shrek. Or Chipmunk. Or Drunklin. But I sort of like what Miles has built, especially after Herk Kurbstriet fucked him out of the Michigan job he really wanted.
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Fuck the "What are you sick of" thread. I'm gonna put it here.
In 2003 -- 12 years ago -- we heard that Tuberville had to "simplify the playbook" for Jason Campbell.
Back when Tuberville took over for Bowden (1999, 16 years ago), there were complaints about our players not being strong enough and getting pushed around because we were soft and trying to be a finesse team.
I'm fucking SICK of that shit.
How many different motherfucking god fucked coaches have we had who've said shit about simplifying the playbook so this player or that player could get it? Muschamp's talking about it now for fuck's sake. Can't install all of his defense because apparently the players we have are too gottblam dumb to follow fucking instructions.
We've had this same curd-gurgling conversation about getting blown off the ball and being weak on the line at least three times.
Why. The. Fuck. Don't. Other.Programs. Have. These. Same. Repetitive. Issues? It's maddening.
Okay, so maybe they do. LSU can't find a quarterback for shit. Alabama players inhale performance enhancing drugs like Cheech and Chong inhale smoke. And they inhale that too. Georgia is going to get their star player injured and underperform every single year.
I'm sick of these same fucking conversations.
I'm probably alone in this sentiment, but I'd rather have Les Miles and eight or nine wins a year (and then the occasional spectacular one) than this soar, crash, soar, crash shit that just frustrates me and makes me not care.
I would NOT take Saban. Or Richt. Or PEDelWain. Or Shrek. Or Chipmunk. Or Drunklin. But I sort of like what Miles has built, especially after Herk Kurbstriet fucked him out of the Michigan job he really wanted.
Right there with ya. Every year, LSU and bama have newcomers and there doesn't seem to be much of a drop off. Maybe it is PEDs, if that's the case then Auburn's players apparently aren't doing them right.
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Fuck the "What are you sick of" thread. I'm gonna put it here.
In 2003 -- 12 years ago -- we heard that Tuberville had to "simplify the playbook" for Jason Campbell.
Back when Tuberville took over for Bowden (1999, 16 years ago), there were complaints about our players not being strong enough and getting pushed around because we were soft and trying to be a finesse team.
I'm fucking SICK of that shit.
How many different motherfucking god fucked coaches have we had who've said shit about simplifying the playbook so this player or that player could get it? Muschamp's talking about it now for fuck's sake. Can't install all of his defense because apparently the players we have are too gottblam dumb to follow fucking instructions.
We've had this same curd-gurgling conversation about getting blown off the ball and being weak on the line at least three times.
Why. The. Fuck. Don't. Other.Programs. Have. These. Same. Repetitive. Issues? It's maddening.
Okay, so maybe they do. LSU can't find a quarterback for shit. Alabama players inhale performance enhancing drugs like Cheech and Chong inhale smoke. And they inhale that too. Georgia is going to get their star player injured and underperform every single year.
I'm sick of these same fucking conversations.
I'm probably alone in this sentiment, but I'd rather have Les Miles and eight or nine wins a year (and then the occasional spectacular one) than this soar, crash, soar, crash shit that just frustrates me and makes me not care.
I would NOT take Saban. Or Richt. Or PEDelWain. Or Shrek. Or Chipmunk. Or Drunklin. But I sort of like what Miles has built, especially after Herk Kurbstriet fucked him out of the Michigan job he really wanted.
You didn't click "Like" when I posted similar sentiments.
We were tough under Tuberville. We've been exciting and resilient under Chizik and Malzahn. But also kinda soft. Sometimes disastrous.
We might soar and crash and soar and crash, and some people might enjoy that. But for me, in 2010 and 2013, I didn't really believe we were that good until later in the season. I watched 6-7 games pleasantly surprised but still thinking we were going to crash. With Tuberville, I always assumed we would be good and had a few let downs.
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Right there with ya. Every year, LSU and bama have newcomers and there doesn't seem to be much of a drop off. Maybe it is PEDs, if that's the case then Auburn's players apparently aren't doing them right.
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Do you know how sick it makes me when I'm watching LSU or some other team and some kid is making an awesome catch or blowing up a play or whatever and the announcer says
"That's true freshman Dickless McWiggles ..."
Maybe I'm just overly sensitive but our true freshmen look weak, confused, unprepared and they're not that way at all at LSU or Alabama or Tennessee or ..............
We're whining and moaning about "being young" for the last 15 motherfucking years. We're usually middle of the pack in number of returning starters. About half the SEC teams have fewer than we do. All of them are playing freshmen at key positions. But for US, it's a fucking excuse. We have to simplify the playbook and justify ill-prepared players because they're "young."
I'm cranky as fuck right now.
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Fuck the "What are you sick of" thread. I'm gonna put it here.
In 2003 -- 12 years ago -- we heard that Tuberville had to "simplify the playbook" for Jason Campbell.
Back when Tuberville took over for Bowden (1999, 16 years ago), there were complaints about our players not being strong enough and getting pushed around because we were soft and trying to be a finesse team.
I'm fucking SICK of that shit.
How many different motherfucking god fucked coaches have we had who've said shit about simplifying the playbook so this player or that player could get it? Muschamp's talking about it now for fuck's sake. Can't install all of his defense because apparently the players we have are too gottblam dumb to follow fucking instructions.
We've had this same curd-gurgling conversation about getting blown off the ball and being weak on the line at least three times.
Why. The. Fuck. Don't. Other.Programs. Have. These. Same. Repetitive. Issues? It's maddening.
Okay, so maybe they do. LSU can't find a quarterback for shit. Alabama players inhale performance enhancing drugs like Cheech and Chong inhale smoke. And they inhale that too. Georgia is going to get their star player injured and underperform every single year.
I'm sick of these same fucking conversations.
I'm probably alone in this sentiment, but I'd rather have Les Miles and eight or nine wins a year (and then the occasional spectacular one) than this soar, crash, soar, crash shit that just frustrates me and makes me not care.
I would NOT take Saban. Or Richt. Or PEDelWain. Or Shrek. Or Chipmunk. Or Drunklin. But I sort of like what Miles has built, especially after Herk Kurbstriet fucked him out of the Michigan job he really wanted.
LSU is not comparable to Auburn.
Miles has built-in advantages being the flagship university in that state.
Auburn is a glorious enigma. There really is no other comparison. Even Georgia- Georgia Tech isn't because it's the inverted model of what we have. And they don't have to deal with the propaganda of Al.com.And I refuse to go all David Housel nostalgic with what it is.
We have the alternative to traditional power football with Malzahn's offense. Will is the perfect defensive mind to make this work only we don't have enough inside help, something I shouted even before the last signing period.
We failed to get DTs. We need three more similar to Swain where we can slide Mon and Don over opposite Lawson, President and Cowart.
:facepalm: And as an overpaid coordinator I wouldn't stop there but then nobody's interested.
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Do you know how sick it makes me when I'm watching LSU or some other team and some kid is making an awesome catch or blowing up a play or whatever and the announcer says
"That's true freshman Dickless McWiggles ..."
Maybe I'm just overly sensitive but our true freshmen look weak, confused, unprepared and they're not that way at all at LSU or Alabama or Tennessee or ..............
We're whining and moaning about "being young" for the last 15 motherfucking years. We're usually middle of the pack in number of returning starters. About half the SEC teams have fewer than we do. All of them are playing freshmen at key positions. But for US, it's a fucking excuse. We have to simplify the playbook and justify ill-prepared players because they're "young."
I'm cranky as fuck right now.
Were only a year removed from blowing LSU's doors off like, 718-9. Could have named our score. Ebb n Flow. If you don't like it to a degree, CFB probably aint for you. Just saying. Weve had our years. It aint gonna be every year. LSU had a bad year last year. Before that they were at the top. Now they are at the top again. These things come in cycles for everyone. Ohio State was what, 6-6, just 3 years ago? Its today's CFB game. Embrace the roller coaster.
Florida, Texas, USC, ND - all fell from grace. Florida is getting better again. Texas still sucks. USC is schizo. ND is ok but not as good as they think they are. FSU looks like dogshit. Clemson looks like world beaters under a retard. Georgia went like 6-7 not too long ago, had some scandal, and then a couple of years later played Bama very tough in the SECCG and came close to making it to the big show against an overrated ND. I can't figure it out either, but it aint an Auburn issue. I seriously think this is the nature of this game now. Things change so much, and so quickly. One or two years difference can mean everything. Look at us (2010 to 2012 back to 2013), Texas (2009 to 2012 to now), Florida (unbeatable under Urban for three years to winning 6 games to their run under WM to being better again, all in a 5 year span), USC (the Caroll years to Kiffin to the fired drunk).
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Were only a year removed from blowing LSU's doors off like, 718-9. Could have named our score. Ebb n Flow. If you don't like it to a degree, CFB probably aint for you. Just saying. Weve had our years. It aint gonna be every year. LSU had a bad year last year. Before that they were at the top. Now they are at the top again. These things come in cycles for everyone. Ohio State was what, 6-6, just 3 years ago? Its today's CFB game. Embrace the roller coaster.
Florida, Texas, USC, ND - all fell from grace. Florida is getting better again. Texas still sucks. USC is schizo. ND is ok but not as good as they think they are. FSU looks like dogshit. Clemson looks like world beaters under a retard. Georgia went like 6-7 not too long ago, had some scandal, and then a couple of years later played Bama very tough in the SECCG and came close to making it to the big show against an overrated ND. I can't figure it out either, but it aint an Auburn issue. I seriously think this is the nature of this game now. Things change so much, and so quickly. One or two years difference can mean everything. Look at us (2010 to 2012 back to 2013), Texas (2009 to 2012 to now), Florida (unbeatable under Urban for three years to winning 6 games to their run under WM to being better again, all in a 5 year span), USC (the Caroll years to Kiffin to the fired drunk).
It's called parity.
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Were only a year removed from blowing LSU's doors off like, 718-9. Could have named our score. Ebb n Flow. If you don't like it to a degree, CFB probably aint for you. Just saying. Weve had our years. It aint gonna be every year. LSU had a bad year last year. Before that they were at the top. Now they are at the top again. These things come in cycles for everyone. Ohio State was what, 6-6, just 3 years ago? Its today's CFB game. Embrace the roller coaster.
Florida, Texas, USC, ND - all fell from grace. Florida is getting better again. Texas still sucks. USC is schizo. ND is ok but not as good as they think they are. FSU looks like dogshit. Clemson looks like world beaters under a retard. Georgia went like 6-7 not too long ago, had some scandal, and then a couple of years later played Bama very tough in the SECCG and came close to making it to the big show against an overrated ND. I can't figure it out either, but it aint an Auburn issue. I seriously think this is the nature of this game now. Things change so much, and so quickly. One or two years difference can mean everything. Look at us (2010 to 2012 back to 2013), Texas (2009 to 2012 to now), Florida (unbeatable under Urban for three years to winning 6 games to their run under WM to being better again, all in a 5 year span), USC (the Caroll years to Kiffin to the fired drunk).
Win now and win at all costs. Short leashes and quick triggers for coaches. It's the $$$$$$$.
No one gets the slack that the coaching "greats" got in the past to build their program. So, as a coach you either catch lightning in a bottle and ride that until the PTB get tired of you and send you packing, or you flail out of the gate and get sent packing.
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It's called parity.
So college football is an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect?
Who knew?
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So college football is an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect?
Who knew?
par·i·ty1
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noun
1. the state or condition of being equal,
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par·i·ty1
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noun
1. the state or condition of being equal,
How bout' a para....DEEEEZ NUTS.
Ha. Got em'!!!
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How bout' a para....DEEEEZ NUTS.
Ha. Got em'!!!
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I knew I should have followed my post with "Cue nut jokes in 3...2...1..."
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That's just brutal.
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That's just brutal.
I know. My nuttz are much bigger than that.
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GF, I will need $142.99 transferred to my PayPal account please for my new monitor.
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LSU had a bad year last year.
They won 8 games. That's a bad year under Les. He's won 8 games twice, 9 games once. I think what K is saying is that, this is what Auburn should be. The worst he's finished in the SECW is 4th.
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Do you know how sick it makes me when I'm watching LSU or some other team and some kid is making an awesome catch or blowing up a play or whatever and the announcer says
"That's true freshman Dickless McWiggles ..."
Maybe I'm just overly sensitive but our true freshmen look weak, confused, unprepared and they're not that way at all at LSU or Alabama or Tennessee or ..............
We're whining and moaning about "being young" for the last 15 motherfucking years. We're usually middle of the pack in number of returning starters. About half the SEC teams have fewer than we do. All of them are playing freshmen at key positions. But for US, it's a fucking excuse. We have to simplify the playbook and justify ill-prepared players because they're "young."
I'm cranky as fuck right now.
Have you watched other games and said to yourself or out loud, Auburn's player would've been stuffed in the backfield or, that screen play works against Auburn, always has...or that would've been "TAIL LIGHTS!!!!!!!" If that was Auburn's defense instead of Central High School's.
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Have you watched other games and said to yourself or out loud, Auburn's player would've been stuffed in the backfield or, that screen play works against Auburn, always has...or that would've been "TAIL LIGHTS!!!!!!!" If that was Auburn's defense instead of Central High School's.
It pisses me off to see every team we play execute screen passes for big gains. Seems like we always get stuffed when we run them, and we run those sombeeshes a lot.
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It pisses me off to see every team we play execute screen passes for big gains. Seems like we always get stuffed when we run them, and we run those sombeeshes a lot.
We have to keep the defense guessing. Speed sweep left, screen right.
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They won 8 games. That's a bad year under Les. He's won 8 games twice, 9 games once. I think what K is saying is that, this is what Auburn should be. The worst he's finished in the SECW is 4th.
Yeah. It's where we've been, too.
2000: 9-4 (SEC CG)
2001: 7-5 (tied for first in West)
2002: 9-4 (tied for first in West although Alabama was first but barred for cheating)
2003: 8-5 (Second in West, let's take a jet to Louisville this SUCKS SO BAD!)
2004: 13-0 (SEC Champs)
2005: 9-3 (Lost tiebreaker with LSU for SEC-CG)
2006: 11-2 (second in West, disappointment after being ranked as high as #2)
2007: 9-4 (second in West)
2008: 5-7 ( Fourth in West. Oh my GOD! Fire his ass!!!)
Two SEC-CG appearances, One SEC Championship. 5-7 an anomaly.
Since:
2009: 8-5 (Fifth in West)
2010: 14-0 (SEC Champs, NC. Thanks Cam)
2011: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
2012: 3-9 (0 SEC wins, last in West)
2013: 12-2 (SEC Champ, NC-G)
2014: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
So let's give it a points system. 0 for finishing last in SEC-W, five for finishing first etc. One point for playing in SEC-CG, one for winning it, one for playing in NC, one for winning it. For comparison purposes we'll just look at five year spans.
2003 -2008:
29 points.
2009 - 2014:
20 points
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2009: 8-5 (Fifth in West)
2010: 14-0 (SEC Champs, NC. Thanks Cam)
2011: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
2012: 3-9 (0 SEC wins, last in West)
2013: 12-2 (SEC Champ, NC-G)
2014: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
Given that we have have the potential to go 1-7 in the conference this year, place your bets for 2016 'cause we're going to the top!
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I know. My nuttz are much bigger than that.
thick,glass jars always make things appear bigger than they are...
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We have to keep the defense guessing. Speed sweep left, screen right.
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There's no reason to think we can't get back to that kind of consistency. Maybe we won't win a championship - or maybe we will. For those that champion Chizik and Malzahn's ability to get us to the big game, Tuberville would have had his shot in 2004 if it wasn't for a defunct system. And I still and always will hold the position that the 2004 Auburn team would have taken the 2004 USC team to the wire.
Auburn is one of the easiest schools to recruit to. All we need is a few more players on defense and a program that cultivates character and athleticism.
I think a lot of the problems are all coming together: booty music pumped on a Jerry Jones screen all game long; a disregard for the family/student atmosphere; constant attempts to gather more money from fans (see the $10k tents in front of Jordan Hare); players that enjoy dancing during games as much as they do playing good ball.
I have a question though - Why is it that Nick Saban can run one of the most complicated defensive systems in college football and have consistent success with it? I refuse to believe that he only signs scholars and that Auburn is taking the leftover dumbasses that are available.
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You are a complete asshole for posting the playbook. Fortunately, they don't have internet in Mississippi, so it won't hurt this week. But now we'll have to change the plays before A&M. Dickhead.
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Yeah. It's where we've been, too.
2000: 9-4 (SEC CG)
2001: 7-5 (tied for first in West)
2002: 9-4 (tied for first in West although Alabama was first but barred for cheating)
2003: 8-5 (Second in West, let's take a jet to Louisville this SUCKS SO BAD!)
2004: 13-0 (SEC Champs)
2005: 9-3 (Lost tiebreaker with LSU for SEC-CG)
2006: 11-2 (second in West, disappointment after being ranked as high as #2)
2007: 9-4 (second in West)
2008: 5-7 ( Fourth in West. Oh my GOD! Fire his ass!!!)
Two SEC-CG appearances, One SEC Championship. 5-7 an anomaly.
Since:
2009: 8-5 (Fifth in West)
2010: 14-0 (SEC Champs, NC. Thanks Cam)
2011: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
2012: 3-9 (0 SEC wins, last in West)
2013: 12-2 (SEC Champ, NC-G)
2014: 8-5 (Fourth in West)
So let's give it a points system. 0 for finishing last in SEC-W, five for finishing first etc. One point for playing in SEC-CG, one for winning it, one for playing in NC, one for winning it. For comparison purposes we'll just look at five year spans.
2003 -2008:
29 points.
2009 - 2014:
20 points
Again though goes back to what I have been saying about firing a coach. We haven't had any stability in the program since Tubs left. Not saying its the only answer, but the programs with the biggest issues all seem to have the same thing in common coaching changes.
Look at Richt UGA people are pissed and he has that program about as consistant as you can get. Yet I think if he loses on Saturday, baring some miracle that they make it to the SEC Championship Game (UF just forfeits the rest of their games? All of the players are on PEDs?) I think he is gone at the end of this year.
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thick,glass jars always make things appear bigger than they are...
If that wasn't damn funny, Snags would cut a bitch.
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Again though goes back to what I have been saying about firing a coach. We haven't had any stability in the program since Tubs left. Not saying its the only answer, but the programs with the biggest issues all seem to have the same thing in common coaching changes.
Look at Richt UGA people are pissed and he has that program about as consistant as you can get. Yet I think if he loses on Saturday, baring some miracle that they make it to the SEC Championship Game (UF just forfeits the rest of their games? All of the players are on PEDs?) I think he is gone at the end of this year.
I think he's only gone if he wants to be gone. He would more than likely start next season on the hot seat but I don't think they can him after this year.
I think him and Tubbs are both telling their agents to make some calls to Miami though.
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I think he's only gone if he wants to be gone. He would more than likely start next season on the hot seat but I don't think they can him after this year.
I think him and Tubbs are both telling their agents to make some calls to Miami though.
They would be stupid to go to Miami. And Tubs ain't leaving Cincy, no pressure and his best friend is the AD.
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They would be stupid to go to Miami. And Tubs ain't leaving Cincy, no pressure and his best friend is the AD.
Not so sure either would be stupid to take it. At one time it was a powerhouse.
Richt it would be a change of scenery and maybe a fresh start.
Tubbs, it would be a chance to make it to the playoffs. The good points about him being at Cincy might be outweighed by the fact he's not in a power 5 conference.
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Cincinnati is also the chili capital of the world.
Who would want to give that up?
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Cincinnati is also the chili capital of the world.
Who would want to give that up?
Have you tried Cincinnati chili? I'm not a fan of it, but I know a lot of folks that like it.
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Have you tried Cincinnati chili? I'm not a fan of it, but I know a lot of folks that like it.
I eat CCTAU deer chili. The rest is just shite!
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I'm just tired of seeing our DL look like this on a decent percentage of plays...
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NO FIRING OFF THE FUCKIN BALL, HORRIBLE PAD LEVEL and TERRIBLE HAND PLACEMENT
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The defensive end didn't even move on the snap. Damn these players really are dumb.
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The defensive end didn't even move on the snap. Damn these players really are dumb.
He did, he stood straight up and wanted to play tummy stick with the OLineman.
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My man, Devaroe!
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And now, the starting line ups for the Auburn Tigers. First on defense (Cue music: "I got a brand new pair of rollerskates")
Jordan Hare Stadium time, is 10:30.
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NO FIRING OFF THE FUCKIN BALL, HORRIBLE PAD LEVEL and TERRIBLE HAND PLACEMENT
That's what she said
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And now, the starting line ups for the Auburn Tigers. First on defense (Cue music: "I got a brand new pair of rollerskates")
Jordan Hare Stadium time, is 10:30.
You got a brand new key?
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I think a lot of the problems are all coming together: booty music pumped on a Jerry Jones screen all game long; a disregard for the family/student atmosphere; constant attempts to gather more money from fans (see the $10k tents in front of Jordan Hare); players that enjoy dancing during games as much as they do playing good ball.
Excuse me? I believe I've already said "fuck you."
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I have heard all of this before. You bitches are boring.
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I'm just tired of seeing our DL look like this on a decent percentage of plays...
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NO FIRING OFF THE FUCKIN BALL, HORRIBLE PAD LEVEL and TERRIBLE HAND PLACEMENT
Holy shit.
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I have heard all of this before. You bitches are boring.
Boring is ONE way of putting it.