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Title: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 04, 2015, 07:25:31 AM
A hot dog from the Jim N Nick's tent outside the stadium gave me food poisoning.  This is it.  This is Town signing off.  I'll be dead soon.  Here it is now: I'm dead.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 04, 2015, 08:03:09 AM
A hot dog from the Jim N Nick's tent outside the stadium gave me food poisoning.  This is it.  This is Town signing off.  I'll be dead soon.  Here it is now: I'm dead.
Prayers sent.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: DnATL on October 04, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
A hot dog from the Jim N Nick's tent outside the stadium gave me food poisoning.  This is it.  This is Town signing off.  I'll be dead soon.  Here it is now: I'm dead.
Tried the pork sushi, did ya?  Usually hotdogs come in a bun with a side of fries, but maybe yours came from inside a bun with stirred collards?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: bottomfeeder on October 04, 2015, 10:24:40 AM
Nathan's or Veinna beef for me. Nothing else will do.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 04, 2015, 10:28:14 AM
A hot dog from the Jim N Nick's tent outside the stadium gave me food poisoning.  This is it.  This is Town signing off.  I'll be dead soon.  Here it is now: I'm dead.


Been that kind of year so far.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 04, 2015, 12:03:15 PM
That's what you get for buying bammer's food in Auburn.  Guess the Dreamland line was too long?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: wesfau2 on October 04, 2015, 02:35:34 PM
Quit being a pussy, start drinking and write.

It helps to invoke the Archer Prayer:
Bloody Mary, blessed are you amongst cocktails...pray for me now in the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

My thoughts:

Like Cass at DE/Buck
Defense still letting frosh learn...and they're getting better.
This game was an opportunity to let O-line gel and running game develop.  It worked and passing game will feed from that.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 04, 2015, 04:35:44 PM
Quit being a pussy, start drinking and write.

It helps to invoke the Archer Prayer:
Bloody Mary, blessed are you amongst cocktails...pray for me now in the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

My thoughts:

Like Cass at DE/Buck
Defense still letting frosh learn...and they're getting better.
This game was an opportunity to let O-line gel and running game develop.  It worked and passing game will feed from that.

Agree 100%  You echo my sentiments to the letter.  A Bloody Mary will get you going first thing in the morning and pick that buzz right back up.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 04, 2015, 05:09:44 PM
Agree 100%  You echo my sentiments to the letter.  A Bloody Mary will get you going first thing in the morning and pick that buzz right back up.
Need far more gelling and want to in order to move SEC DLines.
Too weak as a unit.
Defense struggling and inconsistent but we knew that coming in.

Bloody Mary's are wonderful way to begin a day I always say.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: bottomfeeder on October 04, 2015, 05:28:47 PM
Jeffery Smith said our players are small.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 04, 2015, 05:44:18 PM
Jeffery Smith said our players are small.
Truth! Sized them up yesterday. And we get pushed around.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 04, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
A hot dog from the Jim N Nick's tent outside the stadium gave me food poisoning.  This is it.  This is Town signing off.  I'll be dead soon.  Here it is now: I'm dead.
I guess that's what you get for liking wiener.

Get well soon.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: chinook on October 04, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
I guess that's what you get for liking wiener.

Get well soon.

well, he is a pussy.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: The Prowler on October 05, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
Thoughts:
Auburn: Garbage. We're a basketball school now.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Jumbo on October 05, 2015, 02:27:57 AM
Thoughts:
Auburn: Garbage. We're a basketball school now.
This all of it
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 04:10:43 AM
We're too young, too small and inexperienced.

Won't somebody help us?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: DnATL on October 05, 2015, 07:10:36 AM
We're too young, too small and inexperienced.

Won't somebody help us?
piques the interest of Uncle Sani
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: GH2001 on October 05, 2015, 08:30:27 AM
Defense still letting frosh learn...and they're getting better.
This game was an opportunity to let O-line gel and running game develop.  It worked and passing game will feed from that.

Get your rational, strategic, big picture facts out of here. Gloom n Doom bitch or else. Message board zealots hate you.   

Isn't that the format?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 09:10:34 AM
I would have liked to see more passing from our inexperience QB.

Gus refuses to name a QB1 for UK says we will be week to week.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 05, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
I would have liked to see more passing from our inexperience QB.

Gus refuses to name a QB1 for UK says we will be week to week.

Well, he's upped that from day to day.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 09:36:41 AM
I would have liked to see more passing from our inexperience QB.

Gus refuses to name a QB1 for UK says we will be week to week.
Me too, BUT--considering that SJSU is one of the worst defenses against the run and that we desperately needed this win; I completely understand and agree with the game plan. 10 passes may even be more than I would've attempted with a fresh qb in his second college game ever.

Defense gave up a lot of yards but we forced turnovers. I don't recall, what 4? That's pretty sporty.

Bottom line is, we can choose to look at it however we want. It's not beautiful but it's a damn sight better than I saw earlier in the year.

And see, even though I'm a lot younger than most of the old farts on here, from a young age I remember Jack Crowe calling plays and when Doug Barfield was the HC. Maybe that provides a perspective that the doom and gloomers are incapable of understanding.

We will make a bowl game--WT said this again on 10/5/2015. Bank it.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 05, 2015, 10:02:57 AM
I was wrong about "fix the QB; fix the problem". There are so many fucking problems on this team I don't know where to start. I went to the game on Saturday, and believe me when I say that when you see them in person, it looks a lot worse.

1. Auburn is SOFT. Both the OL and DL look horrible. There was absolutely ZERO push from either group. I don't understand how the DL can get pushed back by SJSU and the OL can't push SJSU line back. It's truly like both groups would stand up and lean on the opposition. It was embarrassing to watch.

2. Why does our running game suck? Does Auburn have to have a superb athlete at the QB position to move the ball. Last year we had more rushing yards against this team than we had total yards this year. I looked up late in the second quarter and AUburn had less than 100 yards total offense and less than 50 yards on the ground...against SJSU.By the way...AIr Force rushed the ball for 400+ this year on this team. Auburn...234.

3. What the hell happened to the HUNH? Why does Gus substitute after every play? It kills momentum and it makes no sense.

4. Why the fuck does Gus not have anymore imagination in the passing game? Auburn threw 10 passes. For the most part, the passes are screens or a deep bomb. Of the 108 yards of passing, I am pretty sure that close to 80 came on the scrren to Roc early, and the long pass to Ricardo late. There rest...a whopping 20 yards in passing. I didn't see ONE FUCKING PASS play Saturday where Sean didn't know who he was throwing it to the minute the play was called. Not only that, but he didn't even have a choice but to know. The play consisted of ONE FUCKING OPTION....someone streaking down the field...

5. I will be shocked if we beat anyone in the SECW from what I saw Saturday. Maybe Kentucky...Maybe.

For those thinking this game was an improvement? Nope. This team was very lucky to win. If not for the turnovers, Auburn would have gotten beat. They damn sure got outplayed.

I am not sure what is going on, but it is embarrassing to watch. And if Gus continues to put this bullshit out on the field, he can go back to HS coaching for all I care...

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 05, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
I was wrong about "fix the QB; fix the problem". There are so many fucking problems on this team I don't know where to start. I went to the game on Saturday, and believe me when I say that when you see them in person, it looks a lot worse.

1. Auburn is SOFT. Both the OL and DL look horrible. There was absolutely ZERO push from either group. I don't understand how the DL can get pushed back by SJSU and the OL can't push SJSU line back. It's truly like both groups would stand up and lean on the opposition. It was embarrassing to watch.

2. Why does our running game suck? Does Auburn have to have a superb athlete at the QB position to move the ball. Last year we had more rushing yards against this team than we had total yards this year. I looked up late in the second quarter and AUburn had less than 100 yards total offense and less than 50 yards on the ground...against SJSU.By the way...AIr Force rushed the ball for 400+ this year on this team. Auburn...234.

3. What the hell happened to the HUNH? Why does Gus substitute after every play? It kills momentum and it makes no sense.

4. Why the fuck does Gus not have anymore imagination in the passing game? Auburn threw 10 passes. For the most part, the passes are screens or a deep bomb. Of the 108 yards of passing, I am pretty sure that close to 80 came on the scrren to Roc early, and the long pass to Ricardo late. There rest...a whopping 20 yards in passing. I didn't see ONE FUCKING PASS play Saturday where Sean didn't know who he was throwing it to the minute the play was called. Not only that, but he didn't even have a choice but to know. The play consisted of ONE FUCKING OPTION....someone streaking down the field...

5. I will be shocked if we beat anyone in the SECW from what I saw Saturday. Maybe Kentucky...Maybe.

For those thinking this game was an improvement? Nope. This team was very lucky to win. If not for the turnovers, Auburn would have gotten beat. They damn sure got outplayed.

I am not sure what is going on, but it is embarrassing to watch. And if Gus continues to put this bullshit out on the field, he can go back to HS coaching for all I care...

Now that I'm feeling better, I was going to come write up some "thoughts," but WE!!! said it all.

Also, this is again concerning:

Quote
"I thought he competed; he did some good things," Malzahn said. "We'll take this thing week-to-week like we've been doing it. We're starting to kind of get good answers to the questions that we needed."

White was hogtied by the play calls. He had what, 10 pass attempts? One pass that actually went down field? But we're still open to playing Jeremy Johnson. Great.

Something is obviously up with this team. It's awful. Completely devoid of talent and technique, which doesn't make any sense as our recruiting has been up.

What I don't understand is why we would ever continue to play guys that are giving little effort. Anyone else notice that Duke Williams does jack shit on just about every play? The amount of loafing the guy does is embarrassing. I understand that he's probably frustrated about our passing game, but if he's already mailed it in, at least put in a guy that will go out and make a block.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 10:58:27 AM
I have an idea. We should form a search committe with Sully and Bo. Maybe Mac Crawford too. Let them recommend based on interviews after we can Gus.

Maybe they'll hire one of the hottest offensive guys in football and then he can get a big name DC to straighten all this mess out overnight.

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 10:59:27 AM

For those thinking this game was an improvement? Nope. This team was very lucky to win. If not for the turnovers, Auburn would have gotten beat. They damn sure got outplayed.

Disagree with you on this.  Unlike Jacksonville State, we were never in danger of losing this game.  I don't think we were "lucky" to win.

My biggest take-away again was that I would have much rather seen us work on a passing game that has been dismal. To allow Sean to get more comfortable and have a shot, we are going to have to win games by passing the ball.

Totally agree with your OL and DL comments we are getting no push in either direction.  We will be beaten by any team with a good to great running back. The reason defense looked better against MSU was because they choose not to run on us.  At this current point I am giving us wins over UK and Idaho, the rest are who knows.

IMO the only way this team will win is if we get up on the opposing team early and force them to pass.  However, I have yet to see them do that.  I'm not dooming and glooming, I am hopeful actually. Non of the SEC bigs are unbeatable this year, meaning I believe we have a shot in every game.  However, we need some serious changes in our mental and physical aspects of our game and I'm not sure those can be adjusted at this point.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 05, 2015, 11:03:09 AM
I was wrong about "fix the QB; fix the problem". There are so many fucking problems on this team I don't know where to start. I went to the game on Saturday, and believe me when I say that when you see them in person, it looks a lot worse.

1. Auburn is SOFT. Both the OL and DL look horrible. There was absolutely ZERO push from either group. I don't understand how the DL can get pushed back by SJSU and the OL can't push SJSU line back. It's truly like both groups would stand up and lean on the opposition. It was embarrassing to watch.

2. Why does our running game suck? Does Auburn have to have a superb athlete at the QB position to move the ball. Last year we had more rushing yards against this team than we had total yards this year. I looked up late in the second quarter and AUburn had less than 100 yards total offense and less than 50 yards on the ground...against SJSU.By the way...AIr Force rushed the ball for 400+ this year on this team. Auburn...234.

3. What the hell happened to the HUNH? Why does Gus substitute after every play? It kills momentum and it makes no sense.

4. Why the fuck does Gus not have anymore imagination in the passing game? Auburn threw 10 passes. For the most part, the passes are screens or a deep bomb. Of the 108 yards of passing, I am pretty sure that close to 80 came on the scrren to Roc early, and the long pass to Ricardo late. There rest...a whopping 20 yards in passing. I didn't see ONE FUCKING PASS play Saturday where Sean didn't know who he was throwing it to the minute the play was called. Not only that, but he didn't even have a choice but to know. The play consisted of ONE FUCKING OPTION....someone streaking down the field...

5. I will be shocked if we beat anyone in the SECW from what I saw Saturday. Maybe Kentucky...Maybe.

For those thinking this game was an improvement? Nope. This team was very lucky to win. If not for the turnovers, Auburn would have gotten beat. They damn sure got outplayed.

I am not sure what is going on, but it is embarrassing to watch. And if Gus continues to put this bullshit out on the field, he can go back to HS coaching for all I care...


Most all of us think this, you say it.


Some will say your not a "real" fan. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 11:09:15 AM
I will add this... "part of fix the QB fix the problem" still does hold true.  Problem is we haven't fixed the QB yet. 

I think Sean is certainly better than JJ but he has only been the man for 2 games.  He hasn't had the reps with the first team offense. That is really why I wanted to see us pass the ball more against SJS.  Yes I get that our running game was working and kudos to Barber for pretty much winning us every game this year we have won.  However, our ability to do anything on offense all begins and ends with the QB IMO.

With out the "threat" of a passing game SEC defenses are just going to line up and dare us to throw.  We know what happens to one dimensional offense in the SEC. 

I am pretty much resigned to the fact that we have no defense this year.  We are not going to win on defense.  We have to outscore the other opponent to win.  In order to do that we are going to need to be crisp on the offensive side of the ball in both running and passing, and we have yet to do that.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Jumbo on October 05, 2015, 11:09:45 AM
This is one big shit sandwich.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 11:11:20 AM

Most all of us think this, you say it.


Some will say your not a "real" fan. :facepalm:

Well there is a difference between just saying "we suck" and actually contributing to why we suck with discussion on the board.

and he actually isn't a real fan.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: GH2001 on October 05, 2015, 11:14:27 AM

Most all of us think this, you say it.


Some will say your not a "real" fan. :facepalm:

You seem to wallow in it 24/7 more than think it.

There are a few concerns though:

- As WE put it, both lines being "soft" worry me more than anything. Esp the DL. No pass rush against the likes of JSU and SJSU scare the shit out of me. 

- WRs that cant get seperation and being unable to go vertical after 14 straight successful rushing attempts.

- A lot of the playcalling. Maybe there is a method to the madness. Maybe they are trying things we dont know about. Who knows...but it is bewildering at times.

- Duke...WTF?

- Why isnt Barber the solidified starter already? Same with White. Until either fucks up royally ala JJ, they should be the starters...period.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 05, 2015, 11:16:21 AM
Disagree with you on this.  Unlike Jacksonville State, we were never in danger of losing this game.  I don't think we were "lucky" to win.


Because of SJSU turnovers. They punted fucking once...

If SJSU had punted and made Auburn score 5 TD's on a long field, I am not sure it would have happened...
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 11:20:48 AM
Because of SJSU turnovers. They punted fucking once...

If SJSU had punted and made Auburn score 5 TD's on a long field, I am not sure it would have happened...

Yeah but we still created those turnovers.  That isn't really luck. 
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 11:21:53 AM

Most all of us think this, you say it.


Some will say your not a "real" fan. :facepalm:
I don't think anyone on here is less of a "fan" for doing it. We all pick things apart. I do think it's counterproductive at this time.

I think the staff is scrambling an doing the best they can. It's Gus' ultimate responsibility to get it done.

But in the end, what does it help to throw dirt on him right now? We have a lot invested in him and if he doesn't work out, where do we go?

I like the idea of hiring a guy, giving him all of the support you can to help him be successful and stay out of his way. Let him do his job. Not turn a blind eye but not looking over his shoulder all day either. Taking snapshots isn't as clear of a picture as a full album of work.

We don't look great right now. If Gus doesn't improve this season and first part of next, then start talking about changing the HC. Saying that now is totally ridiculous, IMO.

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: AUJarhead on October 05, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
Problem is we haven't fixed the QB yet. 

And part of this is because our coaches haven't allowed SW to do a damn thing.  Seriously, JJ could have done the same damn things that SW has done.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 05, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
There are a few concerns though:

- Duke...WTF?


In the first quarter, I saw White fake the handoff and then keep the ball on the roll out to Duke's side of the ball. Duke was in single coverage man and it looked like White wanted to get him the ball. Duke never even looked. Never even ran. Never even looked like he gave one flying shit about being out there.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: War Eagle!!! on October 05, 2015, 11:26:13 AM
Yeah but we still created those turnovers.  That isn't really luck.

Maybe not luck...but very fortunate.

The first turnover was a good pass break up. The other fumbles were pretty fortunate to get.

However, if SJSU makes Auburn go the length of the field, Auburn is in trouble Saturday.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
Had a discussion w The Prowler about gap integrity/responsibility and why our safeties have to make so many stops.

Look at our DT's. Watch how they pursue. They aren't tackles and will likely play some pro ball...AS ENDS!
We have Swain and everyone else is a fucking end. It's not their nature to hold ground, tie up the opposition or sacrifice themselves in a stunt. Their instinct is to put heat on a QB.
Ours run sideline to sideline, out of position, duped and winded. Meanwhile the gaps where our 'backers should make normal contact with a ball carrier are flooded with offensive linemen or becomes big enough to drive a truck through. And it only takes a couple of big fuckups to begin the snowball effect.

Don't know how long Will hangs but if he does the D will get fixed.


My question for Gus would be: What in the hell did you do in the off season, the Spring and fall practice? Why do we look like second teamers scrimmaging ones. Why Coach have you gone remedial on game days when so much is at stake?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: djsimp on October 05, 2015, 11:38:37 AM
In the first quarter, I saw White fake the handoff and then keep the ball on the roll out to Duke's side of the ball. Duke was in single coverage man and it looked like White wanted to get him the ball. Duke never even looked. Never even ran. Never even looked like he gave one flying shit about being out there.

Saw this too along with on another play where Duke was half ass running.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 05, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
But in the end, what does it help to throw dirt on him right now? We have a lot invested in him and if he doesn't work out, where do we go?


You mean like the 9 million dollar buyout.

:fail:
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Jumbo on October 05, 2015, 11:40:26 AM
With Gus opening up the qb battle again I'm thinking JJ starts against Kentucky. If that happens we could go 4-8 or 6-6 and be bowling in the Ham'.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Kaos on October 05, 2015, 11:44:26 AM
I don't think anyone on here is less of a "fan" for doing it. We all pick things apart. I do think it's counterproductive at this time.

I think the staff is scrambling an doing the best they can. It's Gus' ultimate responsibility to get it done.

But in the end, what does it help to throw dirt on him right now? We have a lot invested in him and if he doesn't work out, where do we go?

I like the idea of hiring a guy, giving him all of the support you can to help him be successful and stay out of his way. Let him do his job. Not turn a blind eye but not looking over his shoulder all day either. Taking snapshots isn't as clear of a picture as a full album of work.

We don't look great right now. If Gus doesn't improve this season and first part of next, then start talking about changing the HC. Saying that now is totally ridiculous, IMO.

There's a big fucking difference between "picking things apart" and discussing the things that happened and what was going on with a couple of negative fucking nancy's in the first part of the gameday thread. 

I'm all for airing concerns and issues.  I'm not one to shy away from that at all.  I'm completely on board with being unhappy with the state of things and frustrated that it doesn't seem to be getting better.

But some of the shit I saw in the gameday early on made me ashamed.  It was disgraceful.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Kaos on October 05, 2015, 11:48:41 AM
With Gus opening up the qb battle again I'm thinking JJ starts against Kentucky. If that happens we could go 4-8 or 6-6 and be bowling in the Ham'.

To be explaining? 

Why would you open up a "battle" to determine who is going to hand off the ball? 

Let me just say this and then I will shut up:

Sean White may be the future.  I don't think he's the present.  He may be good enough, but it's clear that the braintrustfart of Lashlee/Malzahn doesn't trust him enough to play the game. 

Johnson -- if he gets his head out of his ass -- gives us the best opportunity to compete with A&M, Ole Miss, UGA and Bama.   

He gives us a threat running the ball that will give Barber more room.  When the fake is never real, the lanes are going to be clogged. 

If he can get his emotions under control and stop pressing, he can make the throws.  We've seen it.  If he can hit some intermediate throws (and we can stop this fucking aggravating screen/bomb/screen pattern and use the entire motherfucking field) that gets the LBs back a step and keeps the safeties from flying to the ball.  That gives the running game a chance to dominate. 

Maybe the benching took his head out of his ass.  Maybe this two-week rest will give them time to unfuck him. 

As sick as this has all made me, I've looked back at it, I've studied it.  I don't think we're nearly as far away as we may think.   We just need something to click.  When it does, I believe we can start to pile up the yards and the points again.  And when that happens?  The defense will suddenly be holding opponents to 300 or less. 

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
There's a big fucking difference between "picking things apart" and discussing the things that happened and what was going on with a couple of negative fucking nancy's in the first part of the gameday thread. 

I'm all for airing concerns and issues.  I'm not one to shy away from that at all.  I'm completely on board with being unhappy with the state of things and frustrated that it doesn't seem to be getting better.

But some of the shit I saw in the gameday early on made me ashamed.  It was disgraceful.
Talk of any kind like that doesn't bother me much. Sometimes, yes but not often. I think I care less about what anyone else has to say than they care about what I say.

That's 100% of the time on here.

Bitch, moan, gripe and call plays. All for it.

I participate too. And if I couldn't see any improvement, I would be more impatient too. But I do see it. Sorry if others can't and I don't want to argue the matter.

It's there whether real or perceived with me.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 12:36:09 PM
I don't hammer the players. Open season on paid professionals though. If Jughead hires you, I trust that you will deliver.

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 12:41:45 PM
Forgot to add though, in my earlier post, that I do think jmar should be banned. I've considered it a few times and just couldn't pull the trigger. But I'm giving the go ahead now.

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 12:53:30 PM
You mean like the 9 million dollar buyout.

:fail:
Well, if you call 9 mil a significant investment, I guess so.

I was talking more about all of the time, Gus Bus signs, visors and the F-150.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 12:55:41 PM
Forgot to add though, in my earlier post, that I do think jmar should be banned. I've considered it a few times and just couldn't pull the trigger. But I'm giving the go ahead now.
You would rob me of my favorite venue to vent on the inadequacies of my team, our team. You would deprive me of reveling in the glory we experience every 4 or 5 years.

So hurtful.






Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
You would rob me of my favorite venue to vent on the inadequacies of my team, our team. You would deprive me of reveling in the glory we experience every 4 or 5 years.

So hurtful.
I have to make tough decisions sometimes.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 05, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
There's a big fucking difference between "picking things apart" and discussing the things that happened and what was going on with a couple of negative fucking nancy's in the first part of the gameday thread. 

I'm all for airing concerns and issues.  I'm not one to shy away from that at all.  I'm completely on board with being unhappy with the state of things and frustrated that it doesn't seem to be getting better.

But some of the shit I saw in the gameday early on made me ashamed.  It was disgraceful.


Here or on the field?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 01:26:11 PM

Here or on the field?
It does me no good to reexperience the misery.
I was my usual half drunk self so I was only half a disgrace.

                   #winning
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: CCTAU on October 05, 2015, 01:51:35 PM


- WRs that cant get seperation and being unable to go vertical after 14 straight successful rushing attempts.
 

Herein lies a big issue with that. I noticed it last year too. We are supposedly a running team. And after 14 consecutive handoffs, we drop back instead of play action?

I don't get it. Maybe CGM/RL gets it. I don't.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 05, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
It does me no good to reexperience the misery.
I was my usual half drunk self so I was only half a disgrace.

                   #winning


I had no beer during the game. (That didn't help)  :bar:
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: GH2001 on October 05, 2015, 02:38:21 PM
As sick as this has all made me, I've looked back at it, I've studied it.  I don't think we're nearly as far away as we may think.   We just need something to click.  When it does, I believe we can start to pile up the yards and the points again.  And when that happens?  The defense will suddenly be holding opponents to 300 or less.

This part.....is where I am.

I feel like were a V8 running on 7 cyclinders right now. It isnt pretty. It isnt fast. Its still beating the smaller POS cars (not by much), treading water and you know something is not quite "clicking" 100%. But when it does, it will be good. Gus is trying to figure all that out at the moment. He does consistently reference rhythm and needing to getting into a groove. I know the dude is trying, and I don't think were that far off either. We just have to find whatever "it" is that gets us clicking.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: djsimp on October 05, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
As mentioned before by many, the play calling is off for whatever reason. Part of me think its just Lashlee not trusting some of the players. By the way, I have noticed Gus getting really pissed at Rhett for some of the play calls which tells me that Gus is letting Rhett have more control. Maybe thats part of the problem. Also like WE!!! mentioned, some of the players are not putting in 100%. Duke is slacking on his route running big time. Not sure if there is some locker room bs going on or what. If that be the case, sit Duke. There was some of that going on with the defense but it looks like Muschamp may have fixed that a little bit.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: GH2001 on October 05, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Duke is smart enough to know that the NFL folks are watching this shit right? Any sign of redflags and your draft stock will tumble. Ask Randy Gregory or La'el Collins this past April. He has to understand he is playing himself right out of the first round and further if he keeps this up.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 05, 2015, 03:29:08 PM
Duke is smart enough to know that the NFL folks are watching this shit right? Any sign of redflags and your draft stock will tumble. Ask Randy Gregory or La'el Collins this past April. He has to understand he is playing himself right out of the first round and further if he keeps this up.

It's like I think it and you type it before I can type it.  It doesn't make sense to half ass it out there when scouts are breaking down every single play.  It's weird, though.  Because there have been several times out there when Duke was leading the way and fighting like hell to stay on his block, successfully I might add.  But to take plays off....
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 04:09:20 PM
It's like I think it and you type it before I can type it.  It doesn't make sense to half ass it out there when scouts are breaking down every single play.  It's weird, though.  Because there have been several times out there when Duke was leading the way and fighting like hell to stay on his block, successfully I might add.  But to take plays off....
His idols or those that HE grew up watching were prima dona's so he has that going against him. It doesn't help matters that Malzahn is running HUNH 099 at a crawl. All receivers should want their touches but Gus isn't going to let it happen till he proves his point I'm guessing. There is just a breakdown somewhere on too many plays in order to execute... which in turn fouls up the play calls that would follow. I know he's trying to get it fixed and I'm interested to see how he gets it done. At the present, it's damn ugly!
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 05, 2015, 05:32:13 PM
To be explaining? 

Why would you open up a "battle" to determine who is going to hand off the ball? 

Let me just say this and then I will shut up:

Sean White may be the future.  I don't think he's the present.  He may be good enough, but it's clear that the braintrustfart of Lashlee/Malzahn doesn't trust him enough to play the game. 

Johnson -- if he gets his head out of his ass -- gives us the best opportunity to compete with A&M, Ole Miss, UGA and Bama.   

He gives us a threat running the ball that will give Barber more room.  When the fake is never real, the lanes are going to be clogged. 

If he can get his emotions under control and stop pressing, he can make the throws.  We've seen it.  If he can hit some intermediate throws (and we can stop this fucking aggravating screen/bomb/screen pattern and use the entire motherfucking field) that gets the LBs back a step and keeps the safeties from flying to the ball.  That gives the running game a chance to dominate. 

Maybe the benching took his head out of his ass.  Maybe this two-week rest will give them time to unfuck him. 

As sick as this has all made me, I've looked back at it, I've studied it.  I don't think we're nearly as far away as we may think.   We just need something to click.  When it does, I believe we can start to pile up the yards and the points again.  And when that happens?  The defense will suddenly be holding opponents to 300 or less.
Only thing in all of this I don't buy is the part about JJ giving us a running threat. Actually, white boy looks quicker. I think JJ is sub 4.6 and White in the same zip code. But it takes JJ a hell of a lot longer to get to 5th gear than White. And those first 2 or 3 yards are the most crucial.

We have grown accustomed to only needing a little daylight for Nick or Cam. We actually need a lot more space for these guys to be much of a run threat. I agree with the clamoring for Jason Smith or maybe more Carey On.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 05, 2015, 05:47:35 PM
Only thing in all of this I don't buy is the part about JJ giving us a running threat. Actually, white boy looks quicker. I think JJ is sub 4.6 and White I'm the same zip code. But it takes JJ a hell of a lot longer to get to 5th gear than White. And those first 2 or 3 yards are the most crucial.

We have grown accustomed to only needing a little daylight for Nick or Cam. We actually need a lot more space for these guys to be much of a run threat. I agree with the clamoring for Jason Smith or maybe more Carey On.
IMO when Gus gets this offensive line executing better (we only hope) we will get to open the offense up to full bore. I'm not opposed to running QBs, I've just prayed for Auburn to have a legitimate passer for four decades and would like to be able to recruit as such. Campbell and Newton fit the bill and those were pretty strong offenses overall. Haven't seen Smith throw a ball and I don't care to see Kerryon throw it. He would be slotted for corner had he gone to the Turds. But for all I know Smith can toss it around like Pat White (one that got away) so that might be an option. I say put Smith out there NOW as the wildcat QB. And leave him in there if the team responds. What could it hurt? Most of us are only hoping to have a chance to visit Birmingham.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: chinook on October 05, 2015, 10:04:16 PM
personally, I think the X should close on game days.

Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 05, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
Duke is smart enough to know that the NFL folks are watching this shoot right? Any sign of redflags and your draft stock will tumble. Ask Randy Gregory or La'el Collins this past April. He has to understand he is playing himself right out of the first round and further if he keeps this up.

Obviously not.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: CCTAU on October 05, 2015, 10:28:40 PM
IMO when Gus gets this offensive line executing better (we only hope) we will get to open the offense up to full bore. I'm not opposed to running QBs, I've just prayed for Auburn to have a legitimate passer for four decades and would like to be able to recruit as such. Campbell and Newton fit the bill and those were pretty strong offenses overall. Haven't seen Smith throw a ball and I don't care to see Kerryon throw it. He would be slotted for corner had he gone to the Turds. But for all I know Smith can toss it around like Pat White (one that got away) so that might be an option. I say put Smith out there NOW as the wildcat QB. And leave him in there if the team responds. What could it hurt? Most of us are only hoping to have a chance to visit Birmingham.

Not even close to logical!
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: jmar on October 06, 2015, 03:40:38 AM
Not even close to logical!
I know. But what is about the Auburn football saga?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: GH2001 on October 06, 2015, 08:21:43 AM
Obviously not.

We had quite a few fortune tellers on this board in recent days. Writing was on the wall.....and not just seen by us.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 06, 2015, 09:12:47 AM
To be explaining? 

Why would you open up a "battle" to determine who is going to hand off the ball? 

Let me just say this and then I will shut up:

Sean White may be the future.  I don't think he's the present.  He may be good enough, but it's clear that the braintrustfart of Lashlee/Malzahn doesn't trust him enough to play the game. 

Johnson -- if he gets his head out of his ass -- gives us the best opportunity to compete with A&M, Ole Miss, UGA and Bama.   

He gives us a threat running the ball that will give Barber more room.  When the fake is never real, the lanes are going to be clogged. 

If he can get his emotions under control and stop pressing, he can make the throws.  We've seen it.  If he can hit some intermediate throws (and we can stop this fucking aggravating screen/bomb/screen pattern and use the entire motherfucking field) that gets the LBs back a step and keeps the safeties from flying to the ball.  That gives the running game a chance to dominate. 

Maybe the benching took his head out of his ass.  Maybe this two-week rest will give them time to unfuck him. 

As sick as this has all made me, I've looked back at it, I've studied it.  I don't think we're nearly as far away as we may think.   We just need something to click.  When it does, I believe we can start to pile up the yards and the points again.  And when that happens?  The defense will suddenly be holding opponents to 300 or less.
Disagree with you on this, I see Sean as the present and the future, I see a kid who makes better decisions and has more accuracy than JJ.  I just see him as inexperienced.

However, I believe Jumbo is right and we will see JJ start for UK, and when we lose to UK or are losing White will be put in in the second half, however it will be to late.

If Sean was named QB1 through the off week and started against UK I like our chances, JJ gets the nod...I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: ssgaufan on October 06, 2015, 09:46:21 AM
Disagree with you on this, I see Sean as the present and the future, I see a kid who makes better decisions and has more accuracy than JJ.  I just see him as inexperienced.

However, I believe Jumbo is right and we will see JJ start for UK, and when we lose to UK or are losing White will be put in in the second half, however it will be to late.

If Sean was named QB1 through the off week and started against UK I like our chances, JJ gets the nod...I just don't see it.

If Sean is the starter for UK, that means he will be getting all the first team reps in practice for two weeks.  That will help him and the receivers get more comfortable with each other, and maybe give the coaches more confidence in him.

If JJ is the starter for UK, it means one of two things.  1.  JJ and Duke had some kind of weird shit going on between them, and now that shouldn't be a problem.  Or 2. Gus has mailed it in for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: CCTAU on October 06, 2015, 11:53:22 AM
So. Since I subscribe to a few conspiracy theories:

Does it seem that CGM really went conservative with the play calling as to not allow SW to look that good so he could put JJ back in at some time?

He knew he had to make a change, or get lynched. But did he REALLY want to make that change?

Inquiring minds want to know if CGM is that stubborn.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2015, 11:57:34 AM
So. Since I subscribe to a few conspiracy theories:

Does it seem that CGM really went conservative with the play calling as to not allow SW to look that good so he could put JJ back in at some time?

He knew he had to make a change, or get lynched. But did he REALLY want to make that change?

Inquiring minds want to know if CGM is that stubborn.

Oh great.  You just had to throw in the lynching reference when talking about a black man.  Typical.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Godfather on October 06, 2015, 12:13:04 PM
So. Since I subscribe to a few conspiracy theories:

Does it seem that CGM really went conservative with the play calling as to not allow SW to look that good so he could put JJ back in at some time?

He knew he had to make a change, or get lynched. But did he REALLY want to make that change?

Inquiring minds want to know if CGM is that stubborn.
No I don't subscribe to that one.

Now perhaps JJ has pictures of Gus and Lashlee in an uncompromising place.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 06, 2015, 12:34:35 PM
No I don't subscribe to that one.

Now perhaps JJ has pictures of Gus and Lashlee in an uncompromising place.

Gus loves the cock?
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: CCTAU on October 06, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Oh great.  You just had to throw in the lynching reference when talking about a black man.  Typical.

CGM is white. So is the White kid.
Title: Re: Thoughts Cancelled
Post by: dallaswareagle on October 06, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
No I don't subscribe to that one.

Now perhaps JJ has pictures of Gus and Lashlee in an uncompromising place.


Nothing offensive, not in 2015.