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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on October 02, 2013, 08:58:14 PM
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HaHa Little Dicks suspended indefinitely. Rumor is agent issue.
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No way. We'd cover it up and play him anyway.
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No way. We'd cover it up and play him anyway.
Done.
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No way. We'd cover it up and play him anyway.
Im sure UAT didn't find out about it till right after the Ole Miss game.
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Im sure UAT didn't find out about it till right after the Ole Miss game.
Well I think it would be pushing if they tried to wait until the LSU game.
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Chris Walsh - I guess he's a Bama media guy - says its not agent or drug related.
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Chris Walsh - I guess he's a Bama media guy - says its not agent or drug related.
Finebaum will know sure.
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Finebaum will know sure.
CNS will change Ha Ha's behavior and show him how to be successful.
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Well I think it would be pushing if they tried to wait until the LSU game.
You know good and damn well he'll be back by then.
Next five weeks are Georgia St, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and a bye week.
When Saban says he "doesn't know how long he'll be out", he means it depends on how competitive Arkansas ends up being.
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you know good and damn well he'll be back by then.
Next five games are Georgia St, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and a bye week.
When Saban says he "doesn't know how long he'll be out", he means it depends on how competitive Arkansas ends up being.
Well, if it is an agent thing, he won't be back. LSU or not. But if it is just a team thing, he'll be back before Arkansas.
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Well, if it is an agent thing, he won't be back. LSU or not. But if it is just a team thing, he'll be back before Arkansas.
It'll never be made pubic because Emmert, Slive, and the local and national media will see to it.
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It'll never be made pubic because Emmert, Slive, and the local and national media will see to it.
Well they are off to a shitty start. It would have been easier to never mention it.
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It's not a Agent issue, it's a Booster issue...same for Adrian Hubbard. Like I've said before, the DJ Fluker case isn't Agent related, it's Booster related.
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Sidenote:
I refuse to refer to a grown man as "Ha Ha". That's just fucking stupid.
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Sidenote:
I refuse to refer to a grown man as "Ha Ha". That's just fudgeing stupid.
^^^Racially motivated^^^^
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Ha Ha
:haha:
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:facepalm:
Hate to lose my brother for the rest of the season but we gotta get it #roadto16 let's go!! @HaHa_CD6
And then a little while later...
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/s18ccl.jpg)
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This is one of the things wrong with society. "My twitter was hacked" let's you say anything without any accountability for what was posted or said. Fuck that. Why was it so hard for the dumb mother fucker to just not post, "I was mistaken. Ha Ha may not be gone for the year and we look forward to him coming back to help us win another National Championship". In slang talk of course...I wouldn't actually expect him to type in complete rational sentences like that...
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Saban needs to require a mandatory class on password protection, because these Bama players are getting hacked nearly every day. #StruggleOverWit
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https://twitter.com/CecilHurt
Cecil Hurt†@CecilHurt 1h
@adamhose @amari_coop2 @HaHa_CD6 Fake Twitter account.
So now somebody is going around hacking not only uat player's accounts but fake uat player's accounts as well. Thats next level shit right there.
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What does #FakeGabeWright have to say about this? #lol
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Btw, this is what some gump posted on the rant. Claimed it was from one of the Mods on BOL. You guys can delete it or what ever but if the quote is legit it sounds like there are some jittery asses on the other side of the state. Lots reassuring that even though they seam to hint that more players are involved and they don't even have the whole story.
http://www.secrant.com/rant/display.aspx?p=45089598&pg=5 (http://www.secrant.com/rant/display.aspx?p=45089598&pg=5)
Way too many stories out there. People are throwing stuff out to see what will stick. Some partial truths with several things and a ton of BS with others.
I will say from the OP in this thread: "Walls" is not completely accurate here.
There will more than likely be others but we will see how that is handled.
It IS complicated but unless other problems arise, should not be long term.
As always, players have to prove themselves again as well.
Not drugs, so just stop.
Doesn't matter what it is. Violated TEAM rules and that covers a ton of areas from procedures, expectations, classes, communication, prohibited communications, etc...
Let the team rally around this, learn from this, and others step up and become leaders. It has been as tough a coaching job on the field as off the field this year. Hopefully some strong lessons are being learned. It will help build some character that this team needs. Perhaps it will pull them together. All I'm saying.
I'm sure speculation and rumors will continue. They always do when there is still some unknown info out there. The staff is on top of this. They don't need to provide any more answers.
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:haha:
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https://twitter.com/CecilHurt
Cecil Hurt†@CecilHurt 1h
@adamhose @amari_coop2 @HaHa_CD6 Fake Twitter account.
So now somebody is going around hacking not only uat player's accounts but fake uat player's accounts as well. Thats next level shit right there.
Supreme Grade-A bullshit. So he's saying this account with 25,000 followers is fake?
Is there any indication of this whatsoever?
https://twitter.com/amari_coop2
That's as typical of a college football player's tweets as they get. Generic motivational cliche's. Stuff about girls. There is no way that's a fake account.
This is the justification for this.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU8hIjsCQAAuQ8A.jpg)
They're saying that on Sept. 19th, he responded to a tweet directed at a @TJ_Yeldon account. They're saying this means he changed his Twitter handle.
Except for the fact that there's still tons of mentions of the handle @amari_coop2 from way before that date. Maybe he just knew when TJ Yeldon's birthday was and answered the question?
Some responses I found from media members, teammates, etc.:
https://twitter.com/denzelnkemdiche/status/293480331862999040
https://twitter.com/_MoneyLane/status/290319051950022656
https://twitter.com/_Elvis_Freshley/status/287564185632645121
https://twitter.com/Andrew_Gribble/status/286598340223832064
https://twitter.com/MattScalici/status/285577286500089858
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:haha:
:haha: :haha:
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I asked Cecil to explain why media and teammates were responding to the account pre 9/19. His responded like a child.
@CecilHurt 17m
@AUChizad Believe what you want. That's fine.
Now I fully expect to have about 50 bammers trying to hunt me down...
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Foolishly, I'm marching on.
@AUChizad 1h
@CecilHurt If the @amari_coop2 didn't exist before 9/19/13, why the mentions from teammates, media members, etc. back in January?
@CecilHurt 22m
@AUChizad Believe what you want. That's fine.
@AUChizad 10m
@CecilHurt Do you have an answer to my question?
@CecilHurt 4m
@AUChizad I have no idea when it came into existence. If you think it's real, good for you.
@AUChizad 4m
@CecilHurt If you have no idea, then why are you reporting as if it were fact that it is fake and was switched over from a Yeldon account?
@AUChizad
@CecilHurt You got that from this tweet, no? https://twitter.com/HannahSchryer/status/382560924474679296
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@CecilHurt
@AUChizad As I said, believe what you want.
â€@AUChizad
@CecilHurt Third grade defense of your irresponsible reporting.
:taunt:
Basically going into "I know you are, but what am I" mode.
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@CecilHurt 3m
@AUChizad First I have ever seen of that.
@CecilHurt 1m
@AUChizad Believe what you want.
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@AUChizad now
@CecilHurt I want to believe facts based on anything other than collusion with Bama to minimize bad publicity.
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Isn't it about time we get a twitter battle emoticon?
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@CecilHurt 2m
@AUChizad I thought we were discussing whether the account was fake or not? If you think it's not, that's up to you.
@AUChizad 12s
@CecilHurt You reported that it is. You're a journalist. I'm not. Evidence supports it being real, including your Yeldon account theory.
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BOOM!! New tweet-bench max.
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You are hurting the fucker's feelings by calling him out Chad.
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So...@tuscaloosa news is reporting that a bama coach gave Dix $$$.
A similar situation earned Auburn a one-year tv/bowl ban. #Ramsey
The bama coach has been placed on administrative leave.
Lookin down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a bitch gettin paid gettin rich.
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So...@tuscaloosa news is reporting that a bama coach gave Dix $$$.
A similar situation earned Auburn a one-year tv/bowl ban. #Ramsey
#KeepItDownHomeCuz
But seriously, don't these kids deserve this money, no matter where it comes from. They're making so much for the University. Townhall meeting to discuss at 6:30 tonight.
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Chizad - you're getting up into Chopper-level Twitter Status. Next thing you know you're going to start your own blog and change your name to an obscure Seinfeld reference.
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Chizad - you're getting up into Chopper-level Twitter Status. Next thing you know you're going to start your own blog and change your name to an obscure Seinfeld reference.
Chad Vandelay
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They're not even worried about it.
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I just wasted time finding tweets from even more players and Bama media dating back to November 2012 before either Yeldon or Cooper even signed with Bama.
He's a fucking liar. But I guess that's established now.
https://twitter.com/parkerbarrineau/status/272603780174979072
https://twitter.com/jonsol/status/270020706241241088
https://twitter.com/CoreyMcCarron47/status/270013676520632321
https://twitter.com/CB5_Bama/status/256979435411087360
https://twitter.com/Bama_Hammer/status/240451131963215872
https://twitter.com/parkerbarrineau/status/199249862452183040
https://twitter.com/365ROLLTIDE/status/193914573953306624
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/180168958694002688
https://twitter.com/GregO_ESPN/status/169975408610119680
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/160223883688022016
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/160223883688022016
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I just wasted time finding tweets from even more players and Bama media dating back to November 2012 before either Yeldon or Cooper even signed with Bama.
He's a fucking liar. But I guess that's established now.
https://twitter.com/parkerbarrineau/status/272603780174979072
https://twitter.com/jonsol/status/270020706241241088
https://twitter.com/CoreyMcCarron47/status/270013676520632321
https://twitter.com/CB5_Bama/status/256979435411087360
https://twitter.com/Bama_Hammer/status/240451131963215872
https://twitter.com/parkerbarrineau/status/199249862452183040
https://twitter.com/365ROLLTIDE/status/193914573953306624
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/180168958694002688
https://twitter.com/GregO_ESPN/status/169975408610119680
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/160223883688022016
https://twitter.com/Anderson_365/status/160223883688022016
BOOOM #journalism
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So...@tuscaloosa news is reporting that a bama coach gave Dix $$$.
A similar situation earned Auburn a one-year tv/bowl ban. #Ramsey
The bama coach has been placed on administrative leave.
Lookin down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a bitch gettin paid gettin rich.
UA assistant strength coach placed on leave
University of Alabama assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris has been placed on administrative leave for providing impermissible benefits to suspended football safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, TideSports.com has learned.
UA head coach Nick Saban announced Wednesday that Clinton-Dix has been indefinitely suspended for violation of team rules but did not specify the nature of the violation.
In looking into the matter, the UA compliance office also discovered that Harris had a connection to a representative of a sports agent. UA's internal investigation has found no indication that Clinton-Dix has had contact with any agent or agent representative. Efforts to reach Harris were unsuccessful.
Harris made a short-term loan to Clinton-Dix in an amount less than $500 at some point in the summer, an apparent violation of NCAA Bylaw 16.11.2.2, which states that "an institutional employee or representative of the institution's athletics interests may not provide a student-athlete with extra benefits or services, including, but not limited to ... a loan of money." Clinton-Dix has provided bank records to UA athletic compliance department representatives that show a withdrawal in the amount he said he repaid to Harris, TideSports.com has learned.
Check back with TideSports.com for updates on this story.
Link (http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1557109)
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At the very least maybe this will get Nick rethinking that Texas proposal...
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The ASSISTANT STRENGTH COACH???? Really????
So, an assistant strength coach....who makes what....$30K a year?.....is providing benefits to a player?
NCAA: We're satisfied. Well done, my son. Well done.
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"In looking into the matter, the UA compliance office also discovered that Harris had a connection to a representative of a sports agent."
This isn't in the least bit fishy either?
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"In looking into the matter, the UA compliance office also discovered that Harris had a connection to a representative of a sports agent."
This isn't in the least bit fishy either?
Fishier than Phyllis from Mulga's rotten twat.
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Fishier than Phyllis from Mulga's rotten twat.
You know Phyllis too?!!
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It's all the cheating going on at Auburn. Ruining football everywhere. :sarcasm:
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More guests than members on the site right now.
Hello dumb fucks from woolyal.
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"Not funny HAHA, funny queer." http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131003/MULTIMEDIA/131009916 (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131003/MULTIMEDIA/131009916)
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"Not funny HAHA, funny queer." http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131003/MULTIMEDIA/131009916 (http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20131003/MULTIMEDIA/131009916)
Judas...
A: the article was quoted, in full, by Ogre above; and
B: Your Slingblade quote was just wrongly used.
Just fucking stop.
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Sonofabitch. Some non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff is caught possibly coaching in a manner in which is not allowed. University says nothing to it, head coach says he doesn't see a problem. Nothing to it. Then, literally hours later, best player on defense is found to have received money FROM non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff.
Ball don't lie.
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Sonofabitch. Some non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff is caught possibly coaching in a manner in which is not allowed. University says nothing to it, head coach says he doesn't see a problem. Nothing to it. Then, literally hours later, best player on defense is found to have received money FROM non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff.
Ball don't lie.
Karma. She be a bitch sometimes.
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
John Infante, a former compliance official at Loyola Marymount and Colorado State and author of the Bylaw Blog for AthleticScholarships.net, said the situation bears resemblance to two recent infractions cases, one pertaining to the coach, assistant strength coach Corey Harris, and another pertaining to Clinton-Dix.
"From the coach's perspective, it sounds like a mini John Blake at (North Carolina)," Infante said.
Blake, a former assistant coach at North Carolina, was accused of accepting cash from a sports agent and was given a three-year show-cause penalty from the NCAA.
Clinton-Dix's offense, according to Infante, will likely carry a significantly smaller penalty.
"From Clinton-Dix's perspective, even if the coach is deemed an agent, it is still not that serious of a violation,†Infante said. “Marcell Dareus was in line for a four game suspension before mitigating circumstances and he was found to have received over $2,000 from an agent."
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html)
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Judas...
A: the article was quoted, in full, by Ogre above; and
B: Your Slingblade quote was just wrongly used.
Just fucking stop.
So not sure if I give two fucks or not.
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html)
Do you guys think da bammers will self-impose punishment?
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Sonofabitch. Some non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff is caught possibly coaching in a manner in which is not allowed. University says nothing to it, head coach says he doesn't see a problem. Nothing to it. Then, literally hours later, best player on defense is found to have received money FROM non important personnel with the University of Alabama coaching staff.
Ball don't lie.
And I actually heard Finebaum ask "Does Saban need to get control of his coaches".
How the fuck can that even be an argument. Saban is the biggest control freak I have ever seen. He absolutely knows what is going on with every one of his coaches. Cheating mother fuckers...
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/ncaa_compliance_expert_says_cl.html)
That asshole misses the connected dots: agent $ to coach...coach $ to player.
Not the same at all.
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And I actually heard Finebaum ask "Does Saban need to get control of his coaches".
How the fuck can that even be an argument. Saban is the biggest control freak I have ever seen. He absolutely knows what is going on with every one of his coaches. Cheating mother fuckers...
Is turdnation in meltdown mode yet?
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And in the ultimate shocker of the day Ha Ha "little" Dix drives a 2012 Dodge Charger according to Tidesports.com . Silly barners and their tinfoil hats.
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And in the ultimate shocker of the day Ha Ha "little" Dix drives a 2012 Dodge Charger according to Tidesports.com . Silly barners and their tinfoil hats.
Seriously?
Because the big defense from Bama fans has been that Dix comes from an extremely poor background and it shouldn't be a penalty for someone to loan him a little money especially if he pays it back.
But he can afford a Dodge Charger.....
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And in the ultimate shocker of the day Ha Ha "little" Dix drives a 2012 Dodge Charger according to Tidesports.com . Silly barners and their tinfoil hats.
From which a pair of Jordans, an iPad, assorted cash, 12" subwoofers, amongst other items were stolen.
How can he afford all that stuff, but still need a conveniently less than $500 loan because of this break in?
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Poor kid needed the money.
http://bustedcoverage.com/2013/10/03/did-haha-clinton-dix-use-loan-money-to-buy-a-watch-for-a-chick/ (http://bustedcoverage.com/2013/10/03/did-haha-clinton-dix-use-loan-money-to-buy-a-watch-for-a-chick/)
DID HAHA CLINTON-DIX USE LOAN MONEY TO BUY A WATCH FOR A CHICK?
By JOE KINSEY October 3, 2013 Posted in NCAA JOE KINSEY G+ PAGE
dix-chick-bama
By now you know that Alabama stud safety Haha Clinton-Dix has been suspended from the team for taking a loan less than $500 from an assistant strength coach. The coach, ironically, had connections to an agent. Dix reportedly paid back the money.
What does a guy like Clinton-Dix use that cash for? Life?
Maybe he used it to buy some chick a watch.
@jamwithani posted this Insty:
Y’all, I’m the luckiest girl ever. Thank youuu @haha_cd6 #HappyValentinesDay
That’s a Michael Kors watch. Obviously it could be fake. Looking at the prices for Kors’ watches, this could run in the $200 range. Seems like a nice gift for a guy who needed loans.
Maybe Jami was just joking around.
We’d like to go back and look at Haha’s (@HaHa_CD6) tweets around Valentine’s Day, but his account goes from a Dec. 23 2012 tweet to September 23, 2013 tweets.
(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/haha-clinton-dix.jpg?w=598&h=356)
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I bet shithead Schaad and Gayer Evans are kicking themselves for not breaking this one open. Oh wait they only report shit without evidence.
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Seriously?
Because the big defense from Bama fans has been that Dix comes from an extremely poor background and it shouldn't be a penalty for someone to loan him a little money especially if he pays it back.
But he can afford a Dodge Charger.....
http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1557109 (http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1557109)
5:01 p.m. UPDATE: University of Alabama assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris has been placed on administrative leave for providing impermissible benefits to suspended football safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, TideSports.com has learned.
UA assistant strength coach Corey Harris has been placed on administrative leave, TideSports.com has learned.
UA head coach Nick Saban announced Wednesday that Clinton-Dix has been indefinitely suspended for violation of team rules, but he did not specify the nature of the violation.
In looking into the matter, the UA compliance office also discovered that Harris had a connection to a representative of a sports agent. UA's internal investigation has found no indication that Clinton-Dix has had contact with any agent or agent representative. Efforts to reach Harris were unsuccessful.
Harris made a short-term loan to Clinton-Dix in an amount less than $500, after Clinton-Dix's car was broken into on the night of June 25 or the morning of June 26. TideSports.com has obtained the police report filed by Clinton-Dix after the break-in, detailing the theft of money, an iPad, a backpack and sandals - both embroidered with Clinton-Dix's jersey number (No. 6) - stereo speaker sub-woofers, miscellaneous shirts and Nike Air Jordan shoes.
The police report states that Clinton-Dix's black and gray 2012 Dodge Charger was parked at his residence on the 4500 block of East 18th Avenue. Clinton-Dix is not identified by name on the police report due to Tuscaloosa Police Department policy not to list victims of crimes on such reports.
Clinton-Dix has provided bank records to UA athletic compliance department representatives that show a withdrawal in the amount he said he repaid to Harris, TideSports.com has learned.
Harris' annual salary is $43,260.
The situation could be a violation of NCAA Bylaw 16.11.2.2, which states that "an institutional employee or representative of the institution's athletics interests may not provide a student-athlete with extra benefits or services, including, but not limited to ... a loan of money."
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How can he afford all that stuff, but still need a conveniently less than $500 loan because of this break in?
#struggleOverWit bitches
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Harris made a short-term loan to Clinton-Dix in an amount less than $500, after Clinton-Dix's car was broken into on the night of June 25 or the morning of June 26. TideSports.com has obtained the police report filed by Clinton-Dix after the break-in, detailing the theft of money, an iPad, a backpack and sandals - both embroidered with Clinton-Dix's jersey number (No. 6) - stereo speaker sub-woofers, miscellaneous shirts and Nike Air Jordan shoes.
The police report states that Clinton-Dix's black and gray 2012 Dodge Charger was parked at his residence on the 4500 block of East 18th Avenue. Clinton-Dix is not identified by name on the police report due to Tuscaloosa Police Department policy not to list victims of crimes on such reports.
So, he was headed to see Tom before his car was jacked...
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From which a pair of Jordans, an iPad, assorted cash, 12" subwoofers, amongst other items were stolen.
How can he afford all that stuff, but still need a conveniently less than $500 loan because of this break in?
Those items have been replaced through the kind actions of sympathetic Tuscaloosa businessmen. The $500 was to offset the intense pain and emotional suffering inflicted upon him by this heinous burglary.
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Seriously?
Because the big defense from Bama fans has been that Dix comes from an extremely poor background and it shouldn't be a penalty for someone to loan him a little money especially if he pays it back.
But he can afford a Dodge Charger.....
Yes...seriously. Btw, it has a expensive sound system too ($5 says that he got it done at Hot Wheelz & another $5 says that the "agent" is Booster John David Phillips that is "connected" to the assistant strength coach)...Also, this is worse than a rogue booster, this is more towards Lack of Institutional Control...and the "Rabbit Hole" goes A LOT DEEPER.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVsoHjOCQAA7XTe.jpg)
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And...he's parked in a handicapped spot.
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Corey Harris coached Dee Milliner in high school. I wonder when he was hired as assistant strength coach. Was close enough to Milliner that he went to New York with him on draft day.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--will-alabama-case-force-ncaa-to-investigate--or-surrender--002539592.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--will-alabama-case-force-ncaa-to-investigate--or-surrender--002539592.html)
Will Alabama case force NCAA to investigate? Or surrender?
Dan Wetzel
Back in the old days – say 2011 – the University of Alabama might be nervous after another report of a star player receiving an extra benefit in violation of NCAA rules.
On Thursday, it was word from TideSports.com that assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris was placed on administrative leave for providing a loan over the summer to star safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. The report also says Harris was found by the Alabama compliance department to have ties to a sports agent.
It was just Wednesday that Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely for an undisclosed violation of team rules.
These aren't outside allegations. These are the conclusions of the school itself.
This comes on the heels of last month's Yahoo! Sports detailed story about how former player Luther Davis had ties to sports agents and financial planners and provided a series of "impermissible benefits" to star lineman D.J. Fluker, now of the San Diego Chargers, among other SEC players. The school is looking into that one.
That's smoke from two sports agent stories on top of each other, one coming from a currently employed staff member.
Predicting the actions of the ever-unpredictable NCAA is always fraught with danger. But back when the NCAA had a full, aggressive enforcement staff, when it still liked flexing its muscles, when it wasn't under such assault from lawyers and the public alike – you know a couple years ago – it stands to reason it would've sent a team to Tuscaloosa, Ala., to take a look at the Crimson Tide.
There was a period when the NCAA seemed to revel in drilling any program for any player who took anything from anyone, especially an agent. Entire basketball seasons have been vacated for as much, and that's when the NCAA ruled no one at the school knew anything. This time, the alleged potential runners are a recent player (by definition, also a booster) and an employee of the program.
Yet, now? Well, who knows if the NCAA does a dang thing?
Yahoo's opposition to amateurism, the NCAA rulebook and the association's history of selective enforcement is long-standing and repeatedly stated.
You don't have to believe in any of that to not sit back with some popcorn and wonder what will happen next on this one.
The NCAA does care about the rules. It gets them out of workman comp cases and taxes and all sorts of other things. It's why the NCAA cracks the whip. There's big money in enforcement.
Yet, this could be the watershed moment when the NCAA just stops even pretending to try. It could be the case where the NCAA just throws up its hands and admits it no longer had the resources or the resolve to enforce some of the rules it once considered sacred.
There are endless examples of the NCAA supposedly looking the other way on a cash-cow program through the years, but of late there's also plenty of proof that was no longer true.
Southern California, Ohio State and Penn State football are all massive presences in college sports. They all got hit hard after aggressive investigations and bold decisions for various scandals. Meanwhile, Memphis basketball saw a national runner-up basketball season get wiped out for playing an ineligible player the NCAA itself twice ruled eligible.
There was talk of "strict liability" from then infractions chair Paul Dee, the late athletic director from Miami. There were lectures that high-profile players demand high-profile monitoring. Penn State didn't even get a run through the enforcement process, it just bulldozed into a settlement.
There was little wiggle room allowed. The NCAA meant business.
The Alabama deal isn't outrageous. Plane tickets. Cash. Gifts. Small loans. Whatever. It's the same stuff as ever: predictable and virtually impossible to prevent from occurring.
By NCAA thinking, however, those alleged benefits could be significant because it's not always the monetary value that matters. It's who provided it and why.
Clinton-Dix's benefit was fairly minimal, and his suspension will likely be four games, at most. But how do you excuse the behavior of an athletic department employee who most certainly knew the rules?
This isn't some out-of-town booster or shadowy agent. He's part of the program. If you can't be cited for failing to control the people internally, then what's the point?
That's part of what doomed Ohio State – it wasn't the memorabilia-for-tattoo swap that was the big deal, it was head coach Jim Tressel knowing about it, lying about it, covering it up and playing the guys anyway.
Then again, the NCAA said no one at Memphis knew Derrick Rose might have fixed his SAT, but it pulled that Final Four banner down anyway.
So, yes, in the old days of a couple years back, this would have meant a full-on investigation and, if the allegations were proven, the prospect of little leniency. Maybe not vacating victories and titles, but, well, something.
It's why there are plenty of bitter fans from past-sanctioned programs demanding that mighty Alabama gets the same treatment their favorite team did. Even if those same fans generally howled about how unfair their own program was treated in the first place.
This in undeniably a new day, though, new winds of change circling college sports like a tornado. The entire operation has been undone by overextension in the Nevin Shapiro and Jerry Sandusky cases.
Does the NCAA have a spine anymore?
So maybe the Tide won't get put under the same intense microscope.
Maybe the NCAA just can't even investigate this stuff anymore.
Maybe the old days are over. And if they are, well, good riddance. It's about time we got on with some new ones, because it's tough to be outraged about a repaid loan of less than $500 to a key player in a hugely profitable football program.
Time will tell. That's what's interesting about this case, not the allegations against Alabama. They could come up at any school. They are partially a result of a rulebook that makes no sense. They stem from a concept of amateurism that was always bankrupt.
That's always been the case, though. The NCAA never used to care.
Alabama may be the test to see if it still does.
Compare that with this by the same author. Pure outrage that Cam wasn't severely punished because of the fact that his dad discussed payments with an entirely different school.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newtonturn120110 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newtonturn120110)
and
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newton110410 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newton110410)
and
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-auburnnerves111110 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-auburnnerves111110)
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Think about how this played out.
"Reported by Tuscaloosa News and Cecil Hurt"
That's the most important fact here. This is orchestrated. It's released on purpose by Cecil who's the number three guy in the Saban led human centipede.
Why?
Self report something small to deflect attention from the bigger issues. It's like a criminal admitting to breaking a car window so the cops won't look at the dead bodies piled in his trunk.
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Scarb on opening drive at 8:00
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Pfft,so much for that.
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Alabama free safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is expected to miss 1-3 games after the university reported his violation of team rules, according to a report from CBS Sports’ Jeremy Fowler.
Citing a source with direct knowledge of the situation, Fowler reported that Alabama has proposed a suspension length of 1-3 games to the NCAA.
The Tuscaloosa News reported that Clinton-Dix loaned between $100-300 from Alabama assistant strength coach Corey Harris last summer. The Tuscaloosa News also reported that Harris has been placed on administrative leave following the incident.
Alabama head coach Nick Saban told reporters Wednesday that Clinton-Dix would be suspended indefinitely, but he did not specify the nature of the suspension.
Through the Crimson Tide’s first four games, Clinton-Dix ranked second on the Alabama defense with 24 total tackles. He has also recorded two pass breakups and a pair of passes defended.
The top-ranked Crimson Tide face Georgia State on Saturday in Tuscaloosa.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/10/03/ha-ha-clinton-dix-suspended-suspension-alabama/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp (http://tracking.si.com/2013/10/03/ha-ha-clinton-dix-suspended-suspension-alabama/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp)
1 to 3?
He'll be back just in time for Tennessee and LSU.
Ha. Ha.
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http://tracking.si.com/2013/10/03/ha-ha-clinton-dix-suspended-suspension-alabama/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp (http://tracking.si.com/2013/10/03/ha-ha-clinton-dix-suspended-suspension-alabama/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp)
1 to 3?
He'll be back just in time for Tennessee and LSU.
Ha. Ha.
Well, to be fair, he didn't get sprinkles on his ice cream cone.
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Sort of off topic, but I hadn't seen this Fluker pic yet:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/wesf9977/FlukerHotWheelzHouse_zpsbce6eb14.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/wesf9977/media/FlukerHotWheelzHouse_zpsbce6eb14.jpg.html)
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Sort of off topic, but I hadn't seen this Fluker pic yet:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/wesf9977/FlukerHotWheelzHouse_zpsbce6eb14.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/wesf9977/media/FlukerHotWheelzHouse_zpsbce6eb14.jpg.html)
He was hungry and thirsty...he is poor.
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I remember when that pic surfaced. If I remember correctly, the correct response is "you psycho barner will look for anything to bring Bama down unless its on the field. Roll tide 15."
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Yes. Just like the Yahoo reporter from California posting HaHa's 2012 charger is getting tweeted at for being "creepy".
Because it's not relevant in any way to a pay for play scandal that this kid is driving a customized $45k+ car, and also needed a small $100-300 loan.
The rest of the country can't be this stupid to ignore these facts. It's collusion. Every tinfoil Aubbie to ever grace the bunker is vindicated. There's no other explanation than the media and the NCAA itself is in Bama's back pocket. We've essentially confirmed that now.
Finebaum has admitted to being Saban's mouthpiece. How many others are on the payroll?
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Yes. Just like the Yahoo reporter from California posting HaHa's 2012 charger is getting tweeted at for being "creepy".
Because it's not relevant in any way to a pay for play scandal that this kid is driving a customized $45k+ car, and also needed a small $100-300 loan.
The rest of the country can't be this stupid to ignore these facts. It's collusion. Every tinfoil Aubbie to ever grace the bunker is vindicated. There's no other explanation than the media and the NCAA itself is in Bama's back pocket. We've essentially confirmed that now.
Finebaum has admitted to being Saban's mouthpiece. How many others are on the payroll?
thats incorrect. Finebaum did not admit to being Saban's mouthpiece. Saban admitted that Finebaum is his mouthpiece.
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I wonder how many steaks $500 will buy. Whatchu thank, Corky?
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And...he's parked in a handicapped spot.
Well, he is going to bama.
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Well, he is going to bama.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/psychotic.jpg)
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--will-alabama-case-force-ncaa-to-investigate--or-surrender--002539592.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--will-alabama-case-force-ncaa-to-investigate--or-surrender--002539592.html)
Compare that with this by the same author. Pure outrage that Cam wasn't severely punished because of the fact that his dad discussed payments with an entirely different school.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newtonturn120110 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newtonturn120110)
and
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newton110410 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-newton110410)
and
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-auburnnerves111110 (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-auburnnerves111110)
(http://www.atr.org/userfiles/image/red-pill-or-blue-pill.jpg)
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@robpate 21h
Full damage control over the Birmingham radio waves.
@robpate 2h
@EDIRPUA @JOXRoundtable it's just a small loan...from a coach. Who cares? I'm a doctor and can't afford a customized Charger! Hyundai
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$37K in bedding, rims and other assorted bling...is not a small loan. But then, I guess we've moved on from that non-story.
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Remember this shit and all the other pics of UAT players getting their cars tricked...
(https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/380727_451690928180284_1876227476_n.jpg)
Looks like the program like likes to reward those that take care of their players. Seeing how weeman is so open with practices and all.
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/59240_637921709557204_125032249_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/# (https://www.facebook.com/#)!/photo.php?fbid=637921709557204&set=pb.100000181420616.-2207520000.1380983129.&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/# (https://www.facebook.com/#)!/chris.harvey.92754/photos_all
Btw, swiped this from the bunker. Hand delievered to the Tuberville Denny. Apparently the shit has since been deleted..
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a527/thebunker81/BI4_zpsbbfff6f5.jpg)
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a527/thebunker81/BI_zpsee9fab8b.jpg)
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I'm surprised Dix hasn't been reinstated with back pay and a written apology from the NCAA, the SEC, the Universitah President, ESPN, Paul Finebaum, and the Pope.
Alabama makes me hate college football.
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I'm surprised Dix hasn't been reinstated with back pay and a written apology from the NCAA, the SEC, the Universitah President, ESPN, Paul Finebaum, and the Pope.
Alabama makes me hate college football.
Funny how they expect him to miss only 1-3 games for getting paid by a coach but the UT guy who was paid by the UAT agent/alum/booster has yet to be reinstated.
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Cant believe I missed this shit in the comments below the pics of Mctat's ride..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451690928180284&set=a.267070873308958.86125.100000181420616&type=1&comment_id=1492727&offset=0&total_comments=4 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451690928180284&set=a.267070873308958.86125.100000181420616&type=1&comment_id=1492727&offset=0&total_comments=4)
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Phillip Hensley Looks awesome
May 5, 2012 at 10:07am via mobile
Philip Giglione so he went from grey to white, what about doing his # in the tail lights
May 5, 2012 at 1:13pm
Chris Harvey The lights got hated on on internet.coach said no more personalized rides that can I.d. them.
May 5, 2012 at 3:31pm via mobile
Chris Harvey Matte white = mofo....killed it too....1st time
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$37K in bedding, rims and other assorted bling...is not a small loan. But then, I guess we've moved on from that non-story.
Just part of *the process."
Some estimates have Uncle Sam shelling out around 45K for a newly trained and equiped Marine.
That number might pale for a REC sponsored scholarship football player of note at the Crapstain.
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http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24045490/ncaa-violations-smoke-but-no-fire-around-alabama-program (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24045490/ncaa-violations-smoke-but-no-fire-around-alabama-program)
NCAA may not have the stomach for a fight with Alabama
October 7, 2013 10:05 am ET
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix has been suspended at Alabama while the school sorts out a possible NCAA violation.
With three national titles in the last four years -- and another one looking good this season -- the only thing that can bring down Alabama is Alabama.
And by golly ...
Both of those sentences are true, you know. Even that second sentence, which has no nouns or verbs but ought to get the point across anyway (if you've been following the off-field football news out of Tuscaloosa). The point being this:
By golly, Alabama just might bring down Alabama.
Some would take pleasure in that. Some are taking pleasure in this story right now. Ooh, he's taking on Alabama! He's attacking Nick Saban! About time ...
Me, I'm not taking pleasure in Alabama's possible NCAA downfall because it's not all Alabama's fault. Some of it? Absolutely, yes. Some of this is Alabama's fault.
But not all of it, because with all the money being generated by college football players -- almost all of it beyond their reach -- a school like Alabama has no chance. The better your team, the more certain it is that you will have leeches on the outside trying to suck money from the cash-making enterprise known as your roster. Most college players will do the right thing, assuming the right thing is saying no to money they've earned. But all of them? Not realistic to say all college players will say no to the money they've earned.
For entrepreneurs with more greed than integrity, a college football star is a blue-chip investment. He'll be drafted by an NFL team. He'll sign for millions. He'll get endorsements. Pretty soon a guy like, say, Alabama All-American offensive tackle D.J. Fluker will be making it rain on the people around him. The scummy entrepreneurs getting close to him when he's still on campus? They're just doing business. That doesn't make them less scummy, but it makes them inevitable. And I feel good saying this: The leech who got close to Fluker when he was at Alabama probably wasn't the only leech in the vicinity. He's just the one who drew blood.
Alabama isn't completely innocent in all this, of course. You ask me, Alabama is (mostly) innocent in the D.J. Fluker saga, given that someone outside the program picked a guy whose family was rendered homeless by Hurricane Katrina. D.J. Fluker was an easy mark, and someone -- a former Alabama football player, though he damn sure wasn't acting in the interests of the Crimson Tide -- made it happen.
This latest news, well, that's different: Star safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix borrowed a couple hundred bucks from one of the team's strength and conditioning coaches. The story seems mostly benign -- Clinton-Dix had reportedly packed his 2012 Dodge Charger for a trip to see family in Florida, but the car was broken into and his cash was taken -- but it raises questions like this one: If Clinton-Dix or his family can afford a 2012 Dodge Charger, why was he so strapped for cash that he needed to borrow money from a coach? And if Clinton-Dix or his family can't afford a 2012 Dodge Charger, um, who bought it?
There could be a reasonable explanation. No, really. There could. Clinton-Dix's family has the means to purchase a car, but he needed cash that morning. His checking account was low. He panicked and asked the wrong guy. The wrong guy did the wrong thing and said yes. It could happen.
But considering it did happen -- even if it happened in just that way -- Alabama is guilty. A coach gave a player some cash? Can't do that. Add this to D.J. Fluker, and the NCAA has two different Alabama players receiving impermissible benefits in about a year. Throw in defensive tackle Marcell Dareus' dalliance with a leech in 2010, and also that disassociated booster at a local men's wear store who until 2011 was using Alabama players to market his store, and Alabama seems to have a major problem.
Alabama is in trouble -- unless it's not.
Like it or not, that's a possibility. A few years ago we'd be throwing around phrases like "lack of institutional control" and wondering how many scholarships the NCAA would take from Alabama and how many years it might keep Alabama out of the postseason. But now isn't then.
The NCAA is a weakened animal, cowering in the corner out of self-preservation. Last month the NCAA backed slightly off its Penn State sanctions, an unprecedented and symbolically significant move. The NCAA still hasn't ruled on Miami, paralyzed by its own tainted investigation.
And then there's the Johnny Manziel thing.
The NCAA allowed Manziel, the reigning Heisman winner and the quarterback at Texas A&M, to conduct offseason autograph shows for memorabilia dealers with just a half-game suspension slapped to his wrist. Why? Because the NCAA is terrified that the biggest football schools will break away partially or even completely -- and has no desire to rock the SEC's boat.
Manziel is the biggest individual star in college sports. Alabama is the biggest team star. Alabama is Johnny Football, only bigger, because soon Johnny Football will be gone to the NFL -- and Alabama isn't going anywhere, not as long as Nick Saban is the coach. Three national titles in four years. Two in a row. A chance this season to make it three in a row, and four titles in five years. Which brings me back to my first two sentences:
The only thing that can bring down Alabama is Alabama.
And by golly ...
Not even Alabama can do it.
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It's not their fault, so just leave 'em tha hayull alone paypul
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Doyle could have at least had the balls to write what he really was wanting to write: Cam and Auburn cheated so everybody owes Alabama this one. :puke:
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New case emerges. However this time, it's discipline problems.
Train Wreck U.
www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/alabama_reserve_defensive_end.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/alabama_reserve_defensive_end.html)
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New case emerges. However this time, it's discipline problems.
Train Wreck U.
www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/alabama_reserve_defensive_end.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/alabama_reserve_defensive_end.html)
Idiot, how dare he not genuflect when the mighty midget Adolf Satan's motorcade passed by a block away. That's the "team rule" he violated.
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Violation of the depth chart
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"I think the majority of us know what we're supposed to do and we're doing things right."
:huh: I'm confused...
Coaches having HS Admin fix player's grades, player(s) going to Miami to "hang out", player(s) going on deep sea fishing trips, Boosters buying players vehicles, player's parents living in nice houses all over Alabama for cheap rent, Boosters giving players laptops, players taking PEDs on video and not having to pay for them, players in commercials promoting a business, players used to promote a business on it's business Facebook page, players signing stacks and stacks and stacks of jerseys for a Booster, Boosters and Coaches paying players...I'm guessing that's the minority he's talking about.
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Violation of the depth chart
THIS^^^^^^^^^^ and the process continues.
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This is surprisingly quiet. What's the "team rule" that was violated? Not unreasonable to assume it's more agent/booster drama considering this is the 11th player Saban has suspended in the last 8 months, and we know at least a few were related to accepting benefits.
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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/24/tide-suspends-de-for-violation-of-team-rules-or-whatever/ (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/24/tide-suspends-de-for-violation-of-team-rules-or-whatever/)
Tide suspends DE for ‘violation of team rules or whatever’
Posted by John Taylor on October 24, 2013, 11:54 AM EDT
LaMichael Fanning AP
Nick Saban was apparently on a roll snark-wise Wednesday.
On the same day he chided — yes, chided — Alabama fans for leaving games early, he also announced the indefinite suspension of a reserve defensive lineman. And he did so in a uniquely Saban-like way.
Said Saban, “LaMichael Fanning has been suspended from the team indefinitely for a violation of team rules or whatever, so he’s just not around.â€
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Fanning is a redshirt sophomore defensive end who has played in four games this season. The Anniston Star notes that Fanning is the 11th Tide player in the last eight months to be suspended.
Linebacker C.J. Moseley also notes that some of his teammates need to start learning some lessons from past punitive measures levied by the coach.
“Well, I guess guys still haven’t learned their lessons,†Mosley said. “We had a few guys have some disciplinary actions at the beginning of the season and during the offseason. When you mess up, you have to suspend guys. I hate it happened for him, but you have to learn from your mistakes.â€
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He was a detriment to winning. Nothing else matters to Cecil Hurt.
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Well, to be fair, no one knows why Patrick Miller has been suspended. It could be for contact with an agent and it would.....wait....Patrick Miller and an agent? :rofl:
Oh shit, I crack myself up.