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The Library => Broun Hall => Topic started by: AUChizad on June 20, 2011, 08:54:02 PM
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but it was...moving.
I love the show, and think it is the pinnacle of modern satire. They are masterful at getting a serious point across by means of silly 8th grade humor.
I just watched this episode on my DVR, and was moved by it. I can't believe I'm saying this about an episode in which a piece of poop poops out poop onto more poop. It was simultaneously the most juvenile and most mature episode the show has ever done.
They always split seasons up into two halves. This was the last episode of the first half of this season. It will resume in a few months. If I didn't know that, I would swear it was the series finale.
Without giving away too much, the episode was about getting old, and getting tired of the immature and juvenile stuff, and needing to move on with your life. Getting tired of the same formulaic routine, using the show itself as an ironic example.
It ended on a very bleak note. And this wasn't like the "Kenny dies for real" episode, where they played the entire episode completely straight, and that in itself was a joke. This was way more poignant.
You can't stream the episode until July 8, apparently, but I recommend seeking it out if you're even a casual fan of the show. When you can, it will be here (http://"http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s15e07-youre-getting-old").
I'm curious as to other people's thoughts on it.
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So, you're leaving the X?
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So no one else saw this?
I want to know what others thought. On its face, to those that don't fully "get" satire, or to those that don't realize that every episode has a deeper meaning behind the potty humor, may see it ridiculous that I found such profound meaning in an episode that found Randy formed a band called "Steamy Ray Vaughn", in which he explosively shits his pants into a microphone.
I don't want to spoil the episode for those that haven't seen it, but believe it or not, in the context in which they were presenting it, all of that had a deeper meaning.
To further wax poetic over potty humor, I think seeing this on the day of Ryan Dunn's death made it impact me more than if I had watched it on its original air date.
For better or worse in the eyes of you older folk, South Park and Jackass share no small part in defining our generation. I said it.
Both of them have been around for about 15 years, which is over half of my life. Pretty much all of the cognizant portion. I always saw those guys as invincible in a way. To see one of them go out in a stupidly careless and dangerous act NOT in front of the camera, was somewhat impactful. The rest of the crew will likely either be shocked into some serious growing up of their own, or will burn out themselves in a drug addled flame here shortly.
On top of those two events, throw in the Brooks thing. The king of idiot slander pieces about Auburn writes the dumbest and most unfounded trash anyone has put out to date. Affecting real college students. Not athletes. Slandering them for no reason other than his sick fetish to tarnish the reputation of Auburn University. Maybe I'm on my man-period or something, but when combined with these other two things, it just sucked the joy out of this whole college football obsession I have, and the Internet that goes along with it.
I don't want to get too maudlin here. I'm not going anywhere. No major revelation.
Yesterday seemed to usher in an end of an era for me personally.
I just wrote all of that about an episode of a shock-value cartoon in which people literally spewed diahreah from their mouths, the passing of a man most famous for inserting a hotwheel car into his rectum, and the TMZ of college football doing exactly what he's known for.
Wow.
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For better or worse in the eyes of you older folk, South Park and Jackass share no small part in defining our generation. I said it.
South Park defines mine.
Jackass defines yours.
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So no one else saw this?
I want to know what others thought. On its face, to those that don't fully "get" satire, or to those that don't realize that every episode has a deeper meaning behind the potty humor, may see it ridiculous that I found such profound meaning in an episode that found Randy formed a band called "Steamy Ray Vaughn", in which he explosively shits his pants into a microphone.
I don't want to spoil the episode for those that haven't seen it, but believe it or not, in the context in which they were presenting it, all of that had a deeper meaning.
To further wax poetic over potty humor, I think seeing this on the day of Ryan Dunn's death made it impact me more than if I had watched it on its original air date.
For better or worse in the eyes of you older folk, South Park and Jackass share no small part in defining our generation. I said it.
Both of them have been around for about 15 years, which is over half of my life. Pretty much all of the cognizant portion. I always saw those guys as invincible in a way. To see one of them go out in a stupidly careless and dangerous act NOT in front of the camera, was somewhat impactful. The rest of the crew will likely either be shocked into some serious growing up of their own, or will burn out themselves in a drug addled flame here shortly.
On top of those two events, throw in the Brooks thing. The king of idiot slander pieces about Auburn writes the dumbest and most unfounded trash anyone has put out to date. Affecting real college students. Not athletes. Slandering them for no reason other than his sick fetish to tarnish the reputation of Auburn University. Maybe I'm on my man-period or something, but when combined with these other two things, it just sucked the joy out of this whole college football obsession I have, and the Internet that goes along with it.
I don't want to get too maudlin here. I'm not going anywhere. No major revelation.
Yesterday seemed to usher in an end of an era for me personally.
I just wrote all of that about an episode of a shock-value cartoon in which people literally spewed diahreah from their mouths, the passing of a man most famous for inserting a hotwheel car into his rectum, and the TMZ of college football doing exactly what he's known for.
Wow.
So no more 4Chan on Friday evenings for you?
I haven't seen the episode yet. I hear it's the end of South Park, and they kept it tight-lipped so their last episodes will have more of an impact on its viewers.
It's interesting to analyze our generation.
Jackass, South Park, Family Guy, anything else on Adult Swim, overtly foul comedies at the theater (Hangover, Knocked Up, Zack and Miri, etc), the emergence of the internet.
I'm not one to delegate a strict moral code on everyone, but I do wonder who exactly are we in comparison to the rest of history.
I don't think anyone is going to look back and say we're on par with the World War II generation in terms of work ethic and courage.
I don't think anyone is going to look back and say we're on par with the 60s generation in terms of civil rights and freedom of speech.
I think we're the kings of toilet humor with an emphasis on crude, profane visuals, and we scoff at anyone who tells us that we do anything remotely incorrectly.
We're the spoiled youngest child who inherited our older siblings' toys.
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South Park defines mine.
Jackass defines yours.
How you figure. They both came out when I was in high school. Jackass came out maybe two years later. The creators are all virtually the same age, around 40.
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How you figure. They both came out when I was in high school. Jackass came out maybe two years later. The creators are all virtually the same age, around 40.
because I would contend that Jackass did not really hit mainstream until 10 years ago whereas South Park was pretty well mainstream since season one.
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South Park defines mine.
Jackass defines yours.
Maybe for you. Both of those are embarrassing statements IMHO. Maybe you were joking, but seriously though Sani - "defines"? That's strong.
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Maybe for you. Both of those are embarrassing statements IMHO. Maybe you were joking, but seriously though Sani - "defines"? That's strong.
I would guess you've never really watched an episode of South Park. Certainly not an entire season. If so, not one from the last 10 years.
There is much more to South Park than you are willing to see on its surface. It's far from the mindless potty humor trash you seem to see it as. It may use that as a vehicle to send a bigger message at times. Well, most times. But there is a method to their madness. You'd see that if you actually watched.
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I would guess you've never really watched an episode of South Park. Certainly not an entire season. If so, not one from the last 10 years.
There is much more to South Park than you are willing to see on its surface. It's far from the mindless potty humor trash you seem to see it as. It may use that as a vehicle to send a bigger message at times. Well, most times. But there is a method to their madness. You'd see that if you actually watched.
You have a hard time accepting a difference of opinion Chizad.
I have watched it. Several times. Just not my brand of humor. I don't like it. And I surely do not think it defines my generation. Just my .02
Other examples of things people worship in masses I don't care for:
American Idol
Lost
Family Guy
Dancing with the Stars
Lewis Black
I can recognize South Park and The Simpson's contribution to pop culture, but to say "defines" is an extremely strong statement. Technically, from a pop culture perspective Friends, Nirvana and Seinfeld defined my generation.
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You're a Gen-Xer.
I'm a Gen-Yer.
Your statements would be correct. Mine too. South Park is infinitely more topical and important to society and culture than Friends ever even aspired to be.
All I'm saying is there's more there than you are giving it credit for. A layer you're apparently not seeing if you think it's all about the potty humor.
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You're a Gen-Xer.
I'm a Gen-Yer.
Your statements would be correct. Mine too. South Park is infinitely more topical and important to society and culture than Friends ever even aspired to be.
All I'm saying is there's more there than you are giving it credit for. A layer you're apparently not seeing if you think it's all about the potty humor.
Good point. Fair enough.
I understand South Park fine. But like music, it just doesn't strike a chord with me for some reason. Hard to explain. There are people I find hilarious that others hate and vice versa. Different strokes I guess.
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I would guess you've never really watched an episode of South Park. Certainly not an entire season. If so, not one from the last 10 years.
There is much more to South Park than you are willing to see on its surface. It's far from the mindless potty humor trash you seem to see it as. It may use that as a vehicle to send a bigger message at times. Well, most times. But there is a method to their madness. You'd see that if you actually watched.
South Park came out when I was in Auburn. I and three other guys would meet over at one of our apartments/trailers to watch beginning with the first episode. Much beer and pizza would be consumed and we would laugh our ass off and then play 2v2 one NBA Jam on GameCube :facepalm:.
I just kind of lost track of the show after marriage, kids, job, etc.
I also used to watch Simpsons and Family Guy religiously but quit after (to me) they just went out of their way to quit being funny and just be political. Can't remember which Family Guy episode it was that got me to quit watching, but the Simpsons it was the one where they got sent to Alcatraz with the other political prisoners.
Defining pop culture items from my g-g-g-generation (90's generation, I graduated high school in '96, college in '00).
"Grunge" music
Alt Rock going mainstream
The Matrix (just the first one; presented the feeling of powerlessness and loneliness in modern tech driven society)
Fight Club (I think it was telling that more people identified with the "bad guy" than the good guy)
Boy Bands (showed that we were willing to pay gobs of cash for anything that could be packaged correctly)
Friends
Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Family Guy (lumping these three together because now the most important thing is to be hip to all the best pop culture references; seriously, 7 years ago did we just quote movie lines to each other and have that be an entire conversation?)
Probably others, but I don't feel like listing them anymore.
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South Park came out when I was in Auburn. I and three other guys would meet over at one of our apartments/trailers to watch beginning with the first episode. Much beer and pizza would be consumed and we would laugh our ass off and then play 2v2 one NBA Jam on GameCube :facepalm:.
I just kind of lost track of the show after marriage, kids, job, etc.
I also used to watch Simpsons and Family Guy religiously but quit after (to me) they just went out of their way to quit being funny and just be political. Can't remember which Family Guy episode it was that got me to quit watching, but the Simpsons it was the one where they got sent to Alcatraz with the other political prisoners.
Defining pop culture items from my g-g-g-generation (90's generation, I graduated high school in '96, college in '00).
"Grunge" music
Alt Rock going mainstream
The Matrix (just the first one; presented the feeling of powerlessness and loneliness in modern tech driven society)
Fight Club (I think it was telling that more people identified with the "bad guy" than the good guy)
Boy Bands (showed that we were willing to pay gobs of cash for anything that could be packaged correctly)
Friends
Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Family Guy (lumping these three together because now the most important thing is to be hip to all the best pop culture references; seriously, 7 years ago did we just quote movie lines to each other and have that be an entire conversation?)
Probably others, but I don't feel like listing them anymore.
Since you are from around mine I will say for music, movies, shows, comedians:
Grunge - STP, Nirvana, AIC
Other music - Boy Bands, Goo Goo Dolls, Smashing Pumpkins, Live
Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Fight Club, Shawshank
Friends, Seinfeld, Sopranos (since it started in 99)
Jeff Foxworthy, Adam Sandler, Jim Carey
Not saying I like these or not, just saying they defined Gen X. They are what comes to your mind when thinking of biggest impact in pop culture.
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Since you are from around mine I will say for music, movies, shows, comedians:
Grunge - STP, Nirvana, AIC
Other music - Boy Bands, Goo Goo Dolls, Smashing Pumpkins, Live
Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Fight Club, Shawshank
Friends, Seinfeld, Sopranos (since it started in 99)
Jeff Foxworthy, Adam Sandler, Jim Carey
Not saying I like these or not, just saying they defined Gen X. They are what comes to your mind when thinking of biggest impact in pop culture.
See, you were at the very end of your generation, and I am at the very beginning of mine.
We share a lot of these things. I was a big fan of the grunge bands you mention here when they were new. Saw Pulp Fiction when it was first released on VHS. Saw Fight Club and Forrest Gump in the theaters. Watched all of the shows you mentioned. Hated all of the boy bands. But I wasn't in my 20's, so you guys get the credit for that stuff.
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Anyway, back to the point, for those that torrent: get this episode. Unfortunately, that's the only way to watch it right now, I believe.
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Hated all of the boy bands.
You don't have to lie for us to like you Chizad........You know you and AWK listened to Timberlake for hours.
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See, you were at the very end of your generation, and I am at the very beginning of mine.
We share a lot of these things. I was a big fan of the grunge bands you mention here when they were new. Saw Pulp Fiction when it was first released on VHS. Saw Fight Club and Forrest Gump in the theaters. Watched all of the shows you mentioned. Hated all of the boy bands. But I wasn't in my 20's, so you guys get the credit for that stuff.
I think Live and STP are two of the best sounds ever. They were at their peak in the mid-late 90's when I was at Auburn. Saw Live one time in concert. Teh roxxors to say the least. Nirvana was good too but since they were around for all of 3 minutes, it was hard to get a read on them at the time. I just knew they sounded like something I had never heard and it was great. They came out when I was in high school. They were definately the defining band of Gen X, Michael Jackson probably the defining musical act of Gen X as a whole.
I liked Gump for what it was. Never cared for Fight Club or Pulp Fiction all that much. Didn't hate em, just didn't gush over em. I prefered Boondock Saints to Pulp Fiction. To a certain extent the American Pie movies were right in there towards the end although that was more Gen Y since I think they spanned from 1999-2005.
Boy Bands = the suxxors.
I remember when Carey and Sandler did comedy. To me, they are much better in silly comedies than doing standup. Carey can act when he wants to. Sandler is avg at best but his pop culture influence is huge, from SNL all the way to Deeds.
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Anyway, back to the point, for those that torrent: get this episode. Unfortunately, that's the only way to watch it right now, I believe.
I forgot "The Chronic". :thumsup:
And to quote from a song by Dr. Dre relating to your above post:
Back to the lecture at Haaaayund.......
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I remember when Carey and Sandler did comedy. To me, they are much better in silly comedies than doing standup. Carey can act when he wants to. Sandler is avg at best but his pop culture influence is huge, from SNL all the way to Deeds.
Everything we're talking about is exactly what this episode is about.
Coincidentally, this specifically was touched on pretty directly.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/388737/rated-arg-for-pirates
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I think Live and STP are two of the best sounds ever. They were at their peak in the mid-late 90's when I was at Auburn. Saw Live one time in concert. Teh roxxors to say the least. Nirvana was good too but since they were around for all of 3 minutes, it was hard to get a read on them at the time. I just knew they sounded like something I had never heard and it was great. They came out when I was in high school. They were definately the defining band of Gen X, Michael Jackson probably the defining musical act of Gen X as a whole.
I liked Gump for what it was. Never cared for Fight Club or Pulp Fiction all that much. Didn't hate em, just didn't gush over em. I prefered Boondock Saints to Pulp Fiction. To a certain extent the American Pie movies were right in there towards the end although that was more Gen Y since I think they spanned from 1999-2005.
Boy Bands = the suxxors.
I remember when Carey and Sandler did comedy. To me, they are much better in silly comedies than doing standup. Carey can act when he wants to. Sandler is avg at best but his pop culture influence is huge, from SNL all the way to Deeds.
<3 Live and STP. And you don't have to lie about the Boy Bands either.....it's ok.
I too was a product of the 90's, about the same age as AUT200, but I also had an older brother who was a child of the 80's and was influenced by a lot of his crap. Because of him, I listened to GNR, Def Leopard, early Metallica, Motley Crew, Poison, Skid Row, Ozzy, and those types. Prince was also listened to a lot. Drew Berrymore and ET. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Superman, Conan, The Princess Bride, Ferris Bueller, Freddie and Jason were what I grew up with until I hit my teens and started branching out on my own.
Once I started doing that, it became Alice In Chains, Perl Jam, Nirvana, Bush, Fuel, Smashing Pumpkin's, Tool, REM(although they crossed over from the 80's with several other acts), Tombstone, Pulp Fiction, Unforgiven, Braveheart, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Good Fella's, Jackie Brown, Sling Blade......
That is what I will remember most.
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<3 Live and STP. And you don't have to lie about the Boy Bands either.....it's ok.
I too was a product of the 90's, about the same age as AUT200, but I also had an older brother who was a child of the 80's and was influenced by a lot of his crap. Because of him, I listened to GNR, Def Leopard, early Metallica, Motley Crew, Poison, Skid Row, Ozzy, and those types. Prince was also listened to a lot. Drew Berrymore and ET. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Superman, Conan, The Princess Bride, Ferris Bueller, Freddie and Jason were what I grew up with until I hit my teens and started branching out on my own.
Once I started doing that, it became Alice In Chains, Perl Jam, Nirvana, Bush, Fuel, Smashing Pumpkin's, Tool, REM(although they crossed over from the 80's with several other acts), Tombstone, Pulp Fiction, Unforgiven, Braveheart, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Good Fella's, Jackie Brown, Sling Blade......
That is what I will remember most.
Can't believe I forgot REM and U2. Pearl Jam too.
Yes, I loved me some lance bass. :fag:
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Chad, I saw the episode too. It was kind of sad. I remember watching the debut episode of South Park in 1997 and thinking "OH MY", while I laughed my ass off. We actually taped the first season on our VCR... (!!)
I hope that this is not the beginning of the end, because I think South Park does serve a purpose. They point out hypocrisy and stupidity that others refuse to acknowledge. They will generally present both sides of an issue, and a lot of times will not take a definitive stand on one side or the other. Case in point - the Boy Scouts/Big Gay Al episode. They agree that the ban on gays in the Boy Scouts is stupid to some people, but then they point out that the Boy Scouts are private, and can do whatever they want. Rational commentary, presented in a crude, rude and socially unacceptable fashion.
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Another part of the episode that struck me was how Randy pretends to like the music both to seem cool to the kids and to piss off his wife. You can get pretty deep with the analogies here too, from the older guy trying desperately to remain hip and cool, either in the eyes of his kids or to keep from feeling old and washed up, to the issues in a marriage where the two people don't communicate and reach the point of deliberately doing things to hurt the other one or make the other partner look bad in someone else's eyes.
This also defines my generation (everyone I knew growing up had divorced parents, plus aging baby boomers trying so hard to be hip and cool and desperately trying to win over the next generation.)
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Another part of the episode that struck me was how Randy pretends to like the music both to seem cool to the kids and to piss off his wife. You can get pretty deep with the analogies here too, from the older guy trying desperately to remain hip and cool, either in the eyes of his kids or to keep from feeling old and washed up, to the issues in a marriage where the two people don't communicate and reach the point of deliberately doing things to hurt the other one or make the other partner look bad in someone else's eyes.
This also defines my generation (everyone I knew growing up had divorced parents, plus aging baby boomers trying so hard to be hip and cool and desperately trying to win over the next generation.)
True, but on a deeper level, I saw Randy/Sharon as Matt/Trey. Not necessarily one represents one and one represents the other, but the dichotemy of both of them. The "Randy" side of them keeps foolishly retreading the same situations with just a slight variation from episode to episode. He gets carried away into these ridiculous slapstick-y scenarios over and over again. He pretends to enjoy the crude/silly "Tween Wave Music", just to stay hip. Not really fooling himself. The "Sharon" side of them is sick of the same old routine. Ready for a change. Ready for them to just grow up.
Deep shit.
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True, but on a deeper level, I saw Randy/Sharon as Matt/Trey. Not necessarily one represents one and one represents the other, but the dichotemy of both of them. The "Randy" side of them keeps foolishly retreading the same situations with just a slight variation from episode to episode. He gets carried away into these ridiculous slapstick-y scenarios over and over again. He pretends to enjoy the crude/silly "Tween Wave Music", just to stay hip. Not really fooling himself. The "Sharon" side of them is sick of the same old routine. Ready for a change. Ready for them to just grow up.
Deep poop.
I agree 100%
Trey and Matt are, to my eyes, absolutely brilliant. You could see how they used South Park as a vehicle to get across anything they wanted to comment on. But after a while, wouldn't one think they have to move on? This is where your point is so damn valid.
Also, on Jackass. Didn't they get nominated for an Oscar? I believe in the Documentary category? I could really not give two damns about the Oscars, but doesn't that say something about our society and what defines a generation?
Even if I'm wrong out the Oscar, Jackass meant a lot to me throughout the years. It's funny how you can watch a show about a group of idiots and over time feel something for them. I think in a way I do the same with South Park. Maybe it's just me getting older and all gay sentimental, but I think those two shows are fucking fantastic.
I'm sure none of what I said made much sense. I'm knee deep in some Singha right now.
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I loved Boy Bands. 98' Degrees, Backstreet Boys, N'sync and O-Town. I still can sing most of the hits and I'm not ashamed. I also loved Nirvana, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam and Live in the 90's.
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I loved Boy Bands. 98' Degrees, Backstreet Boys, N'sync and O-Town. I still can sing most of the hits and I'm not ashamed. I also loved Nirvana, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam and Live in the 90's.
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It's tearin' up my heart when I'm with you.
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It's tearin' up my heart when I'm with you.
I'm tired of this thread.
Bye, bye, bye, bye
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So no one else saw this?
I want to know what others thought. On its face, to those that don't fully "get" satire, or to those that don't realize that every episode has a deeper meaning behind the potty humor, may see it ridiculous that I found such profound meaning in an episode that found Randy formed a band called "Steamy Ray Vaughn", in which he explosively shits his pants into a microphone.
I don't want to spoil the episode for those that haven't seen it, but believe it or not, in the context in which they were presenting it, all of that had a deeper meaning.
To further wax poetic over potty humor, I think seeing this on the day of Ryan Dunn's death made it impact me more than if I had watched it on its original air date.
For better or worse in the eyes of you older folk, South Park and Jackass share no small part in defining our generation. I said it.
Both of them have been around for about 15 years, which is over half of my life. Pretty much all of the cognizant portion. I always saw those guys as invincible in a way. To see one of them go out in a stupidly careless and dangerous act NOT in front of the camera, was somewhat impactful. The rest of the crew will likely either be shocked into some serious growing up of their own, or will burn out themselves in a drug addled flame here shortly.
On top of those two events, throw in the Brooks thing. The king of idiot slander pieces about Auburn writes the dumbest and most unfounded trash anyone has put out to date. Affecting real college students. Not athletes. Slandering them for no reason other than his sick fetish to tarnish the reputation of Auburn University. Maybe I'm on my man-period or something, but when combined with these other two things, it just sucked the joy out of this whole college football obsession I have, and the Internet that goes along with it.
I don't want to get too maudlin here. I'm not going anywhere. No major revelation.
Yesterday seemed to usher in an end of an era for me personally.
I just wrote all of that about an episode of a shock-value cartoon in which people literally spewed diahreah from their mouths, the passing of a man most famous for inserting a hotwheel car into his rectum, and the TMZ of college football doing exactly what he's known for.
Wow.
South Park offends my skewed moral compass. Gotta have standards somewhere and the three or four times I've tried to watch it, the show crossed lines I just didn't think should be crossed.
That's not funny to me.
I simply can't and won't watch it.
Understand you see some satirical brilliance in it, but it's completely sacreligous and gives the fuck you to Christians. I can't accept that. When you sneer at everything, maybe its you who should be sneered at.
You know how I am, the finest form of comedy is satire in my mind. Just can't do SP.
As for the Jackass guy dying? I couldn't muster half a fuck. A dumbass died doing something dumb. The only thing that saddens me is that he took somebody with him. Just glad it was only one.
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South Park offends my skewed moral compass. Gotta have standards somewhere and the three or four times I've tried to watch it, the show crossed lines I just didn't think should be crossed.
That's not funny to me.
I simply can't and won't watch it.
Understand you see some satirical brilliance in it, but it's completely sacreligous and gives the fuck you to Christians. I can't accept that. When you sneer at everything, maybe its you who should be sneered at.
You know how I am, the finest form of comedy is satire in my mind. Just can't do SP.
As for the Jackass guy dying? I couldn't muster half a fuck. A dumbass died doing something dumb. The only thing that saddens me is that he took somebody with him. Just glad it was only one.
Don't know which episode you saw, but can't think of any blatant "Fuck you" to Christians. I could see if you were Mormon or Scientologiest, as they've fucked with those religions pretty hard.
If you truly enjoy satire, I'd have to suggest you give these guys another chance. They truly are masterful at it. They are very middle of the road guys politically, and actually, aside from the crudeness of their humor most of the time, should piss off liberals far more than conservatives.
Some books on the subject:
http://www.amazon.com/South-Park-Conservatives-Against-Liberal/dp/B001QTVKGM/ref=pd_sim_b_6
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With a firm belief in the power of satire, and a number of complicated questions-including the morals of laughing at a ten-year-old's racist, sexually active hand-puppet-author and philosophy professor Arp presents an accessible collection of 22 essays on Comedy Central's controversial, long-running cartoon series South Park. Drawing on the usual suspects-Plato, Aristotle, Freud and Sartre among them-the contributors gleefully argue that the fiercely juvenile and politically incorrect show speaks to some of the most important issues of our-or any-time. In the first entry, William W. Young III draws comparisons between moralizing condemnation of South Park and the charges "leveled against Western philosophy since its beginnings" in a section titled "Oh my God! They Killed Socrates! You Bastards!" Other essays take on the "ethics of amusement" in the face of a Virgin Mary statue bleeding from a wholly inappropriate place, the existential crisis suggested by the Kenny's recurrent death and what a school mascot election between "a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich" says about America's two-party political system. Though the laundry list of philosophical issues-gender and sexuality, personal identity, the problem of evil, religious pluralism, the ethics of belief-feels familiar, and some of the writers' attempts at lowbrow humor can be embarrassingly off-mark, it's a serious but inviting roundup that high-minded South Park fans, as well as pop-philosophy devotees, will find worthwhile.
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Since it came on the air in 1997, Comedy Central's top-rated animated program, South Park, has been criticized for its crude, scatological humor and political insensitivity. However, the program also fearlessly wades into the morass of American political life as it tackles and satirizes all American sacred cows, including "political correctness," the value of celebrities, ideas about childhood, and the role of religion in American life. In the process, South Park raises provocative and timely questions about politics, identity, and the media's influence in shaping American thinking.
Taking South Park Seriously brings together scholars who explore the broader implications of South Park's immense popularity by examining the program's politics, aesthetics, and cultural impact. Topics covered include the pleasures of watching the show, South Park's relationship to other animated programs, and the program's representations of racial and ethnic minorities, the disabled, celebrities, children, religion, and education. This book will be of interest not only to communications and cultural studies scholars, but to anyone who has ever laughed along with Cartman, Stan, Kyle, and Kenny.
"This collection is sure to get South Park fans thinking a little deeper. The articles are both well written and readable. You know, I think I learned something today!" -- Robert Arp, editor of South Park and Philosophy: You Know, I Learned Something Today
"This book is a serious and thoughtful effort at a scholarly analysis of South Park, and it makes an important contribution in beginning a scholarly dialogue on this influential and often controversial show." -- John Alberti, author of Leaving Springfield: The Simpsons and the Possibility of Oppositional Culture