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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: AUTailgatingRules on May 06, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
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Alright all you Illegal immigrant defenders, let's hear your opinion on this. If you don't think the left and the illegals have an agenda you are absolutely out of your mind.
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http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html)
Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees
Freedom of expression or cultural disrespect on Cinco de Mayo?
By GEORGE KIRIYAMA
Updated 12:14 PM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010
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On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.
Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.
"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."
The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.
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"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.
The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."
"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."
But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
As for an apology, the boys and their families say, 'fat chance.'
"I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."
The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district and the school do not see eye-to-eye on the incident and released the following statement:
The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions.
The boys will not be suspended and were allowed to return to school Thursday. We spotted one of them when he got to campus -- and, yes, he was sporting an American flag T-shirt
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The school is wrong here.
The district, thankfully, had a bit more common sense.
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The school is wrong here.
The district, thankfully, had a bit more common sense.
Where is the outcry for the firing of the assistant principle from the left? I Gaurantee they would be calling for the head of principle that sent a student home for wearing a Mexican Flag or a black wearing a MLK T Shirt.
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Where is the outcry for the firing of the assistant principle from the left? I Gaurantee they would be calling for the head of principle that sent a student home for wearing a Mexican Flag or a black wearing a MLK T Shirt.
The kids aren't suspended and there won't be any disciplinary action. What's to fire over?
In case you're missing it: I'm agreeing with you on this one.
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The kids aren't suspended and there won't be any disciplinary action. What's to fire over?
In case you're missing it: I'm agreeing with you on this one.
Yes I know you are agreeing on this one.
As far as what is to fire over: There is an assistant principle employed in the public school system (the public school system of the United States of America) that thinks it is offensive to wear the American flag to school. That shows me that he does not have the judgement needed to be in a position of power over our kids.
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But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
When are we going to finally say enough is enough and start telling people to go fuck themselves. I noticed the guy that wrote this version of the story left the name of the assistant principal that sent these 5 gringolittos home. Fox didn't.
The five teens were sitting at a table outside Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Calif., on Wednesday morning when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two of them to remove their American flag bandannas, one of their parents told FoxNews.com. The boys complied, but were asked to accompany Rodriguez to the principal's office.
The five students -- Daniel Galli, Austin Carvalho, Matt Dariano, Dominic Maciel and Clayton Howard -- were then told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home, though it would not be considered a suspension. Rodriguez told the students he did not want any fights to break out between Mexican-American students celebrating their heritage and those wearing American flags.
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Ok, obviously, this assistant principal is an idiot.
However, this is funny. Look at this obvious "dumb question" poll on Fox News.
/b/ caught wind of it. Fox is no longer getting the answer they expected.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/ (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/)
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But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.
"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
As for an apology, the boys and their families say, 'fat chance.'
"I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."
How is it MEXICAN anything while we are in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? If you want something MEXICAN, go the hell back to MEXICO. Better yet, check all of the parents for legal papers and send to whole damn family back to the MEXICO they love so well.
Patriotism is a dying emotion in our country today. We are sooooooo accepting of everything else that we are killing off our own identity.
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How is it MEXICAN anything while we are in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? If you want something MEXICAN, go the hell back to MEXICO. Better yet, check all of the parents for legal papers and send to whole damn family back to the MEXICO they love so well.
Patriotism is a dying emotion in our country today. We are sooooooo accepting of everything else that we are killing off our own identity.
What are your thoughts on St. Patty's day?
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What are your thoughts on St. Patty's day?
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What are your thoughts on St. Patty's day?
Idiot question. I've never had a person of Irish descent EVER ask me to not wear anything American on that day. I don't think the Irish-Americans are even sober enough on that day to complain.
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Idiot question.
Then it suits you.
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Then it suits you.
It suits me to answer it in a way that even your punk ass can understand. When you and every other bitch that stands up for these illegal bastards, adopts a family and takes care of them, then I will listen to your ideas. But until then, you are no better than a librul dimocrat wanting to use my money to pay for your ignorant social ideas. Anyone who would even think of standing up for the MEXICANS in this article is not worth my time.
And if these people aren't MEXICANS, then why do they think they can have a MEXICAN holiday in the United States of America? I know. We'll ask the Irish. Because they feel the same persecution.
We better listen or the MEXICANS might just shut the school down or maybe riot.
Tensions High at California High School Following Flag Flap
By Joshua Rhett Miller
- FOXNews.com
Tensions are rising at a California high school where five students were sent home for wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo.
More than 200 Hispanic students reportedly skipped class on Thursday and marched to school district headquarters while chanting "we want respect" and "si se puedes" -- "yes we can" -- the Morgan Hill Times reported.
"We did this to support the Latino/Hispanic community," Francine Roa, a 2005 Live Oak High School graduate, told the newspaper.
At least six Morgan Hill police vehicles traveled alongside the students, many of whom carried Mexican flags. No arrests were made related to the march, the newspaper reported.
Police have been told to be on alert for gang-related retaliation against the boys, according to Ken Jones, whose stepson, Daniel Galli, was one of the students who refused to turn their T-shirts inside-out when asked by a vice principal on Wednesday.
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"We just want this whole thing to die down," Jones told FoxNews.com. "We're not trying to keep these flames firing."
The five teens were sitting at a table outside Live Oak High School Wednesday morning when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two of them to remove their American flag bandannas, one of the boys' parents told FoxNews.com. The youths complied, but were asked to accompany Rodriguez to the principal's office.
The students were then told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home, though it would not be considered a suspension. Rodriguez told the students he did not want any fights to break out between Mexican-American students celebrating their heritage and those wearing American flags, the parent said.
But Jones said the preemptive action was unnecessary, and that Rodriguez "overstepped his bounds."
"The issue was, there was nothing going on," Jones told Fox News on Friday. "There was no sense of violence at all amongst the students, there was no conversation, there was no bullying.
"We just feel like the vice principal overstepped his bounds. He jumped in too quickly. We can understand he might be concerned something would happen, but there was no indication that was going to happen at all."
Officials at the high school, a 1,300-student institution in Santa Clara County, near San Jose, have not returned several messages seeking comment.
As of late Thursday, Jones said the five boys' parents have no plans to sue the school or Morgan Hill Unified School District, which has characterized the incident as "extremely unfortunate" and is conducting an ongoing investigation. Several attorneys have contacted the families offering to represent them pro bono, Jones said.
"We're keeping an open mind," he said. "We want to stand up for our First Amendment rights."
He said the families are seeking an apology from school officials and want the students' unexcused absences for leaving school to be expunged.
Galli said he frequently wears the American flag T-shirt to school and that he wasn't trying to incite any tension. Asked if he wore the shirt to make a statement related to the ongoing immigration debate, Galli said, "No, it had absolutely nothing to do with that."
District officials, meanwhile, sent a voicemail message in English and Spanish to all parents late Thursday.
"The Morgan Hill Unified School District does not prohibit nor do we discourage wearing patriotic clothing," the message from Superintendent Wesley Smith said. "The incident on May 5 at Live Oak High School is extremely unfortunate. While campus safety is our primary concern and administrators made decisions yesterday in an attempt to ensure campus safety, students should not, and will not, be disciplined for wearing patriotic clothing. This situation and our response are under review."
Asked if the district will be taking any steps to quell rising tensions at the school, a district official told FoxNews.com in an e-mail, "Our focus for [Thursday] was student safety. Students are safe and administrators are continuing to work through the investigation."
Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at UCLA, said the students are protected under California Education Code 48950, which prohibits schools from enforcing a rule subjecting a high school student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct that, when engaged outside of campus, is protected by the First Amendment.
If the school could point to previous incidents sparked by students who wore garments with American flags, they could argue that the flag is likely to lead to "substantial disruption," Volokh said.
"If, for example, there had been fights over similar things at past events, if there had been specific threats made. But if [school officials] just say, 'Well, we think it might be offensive to people,' that's generally speaking not enough."
Volokh said the students and their parents likely have a winning case on their hands if they decide to take the matter to court.
"Oh yes, it's almost open and shut," he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/07/tensions-high-california-high-school-following-flag-flap/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/07/tensions-high-california-high-school-following-flag-flap/)
I guess we Americans should just sit down and shut up in our own country. And it sounds like there are many of you out there who agree.
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What are your thoughts on St. Patty's day?
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