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Title: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
Ok, so I just thought I'd throw out some information I learned over the past few hours.  Do with it what you will.

1. J. Lee is not driving to South Carolina for Lattimore's announcement.

2. Bryan Matthews was not going to, but then had a change of heart and decided to drive to his announcement today.

3.  Jay Tate is on his way to South Carolina.

4.  The rumors have turned negative in regards to Lattimore and Auburn, but none of this is official since the family has not spoken publicly in a week or so.

5.  Lattimore's mother really liked Auburn.

6.  Home state teams usually get a leg up when recruiting head to head against out of state teams.

7.  Some recruiters still feel strongly that Lattimore will choose Auburn. 

Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Saniflush on February 02, 2010, 11:08:02 AM
8.  You love cock.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:11:49 AM
Another thing, which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

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Three-star D.J. Howard no longer committed to sign with Auburn

D.J. Howard (Lincoln, Ala.) will not sign with the Tigers on Wednesday, ESPN affiliate Web site AuburnUndercover.com reports.

Howard informed the Spartanburg Herald-Journal that he's made his decision and will sign with Clemson or Kentucky.

"I based my decision on the coaches, how I interacted with them, the players and the environment," he said.

Howard rushed for 1,500 yards and 17 touchdowns as a senior.

This would make me think that Lattimore is leaning more towards Auburn, but who knows.  I always thought that if Howard felt that Lattimore was going to Auburn he would choose Clemson or Kentucky.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
A little something more...

I was just listening to the Colin Cowheard show and he said that it looks like Lattimore is heading to Auburn.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
A little something more...

I was just listening to the Colin Cowheard show and he said that it looks like Lattimore is heading to Auburn.

Is he easier to understand these days without Carroll in his mouth?
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
Is he easier to understand these days without Carroll in his mouth?
It's hard to say, see number 8 above.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:42:28 AM
Rumor Alert:

They are saying that Auburn coaches pulled Howard's offer.

Take it for what it's worth.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: djsimp on February 02, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
I do think that Lattimore is headed to Auburn. Adding Howard headed elsewhere just solidifies this.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 11:48:25 AM
I'm leaning Lattimore to SC...only because that's the way the wind is blowing today.  

I just think staying home may mean too much to him.  And he's got to realize that if he's an NFL talent, he can get there via SC with no problem. And who knows, maybe he's their next George Rogers.  They do have a Heisman running back in their history.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Token on February 02, 2010, 11:50:11 AM
Rumor Alert:

They are saying that Auburn coaches pulled Howard's offer.

Take it for what it's worth.

                                    :haha:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
                                    :haha:
Funny thing, it's actually true.  :wartim:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 11:53:18 AM
I'm really torn. Right now I feel 51% SC, 49% AU.

Which certainly doesn't mean either is impossible. I feel like we've got about the same odds as I do putting all of my chips on black at a roulette table.

What's interesting is if he doesn't go, that we thought getting Trovon Reed meant we'd get Seastrunk, and we thought getting Eric Mack meant we'd get Lattimore.

In both cases, the guy that actually signed with us was the one that, at least at the time, appeared most likely to stay in their home state.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 11:54:09 AM
Rumor Alert:

They are saying that Auburn coaches pulled Howard's offer.

Take it for what it's worth.
He's only a 3 star. No need to bust out the "we didn't want him anyway" line.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 11:55:39 AM
He's only a 3 star. No need to bust out the "we didn't want him anyway" line.
1. I said the coaches pulled his offer, 2.  I said it's a rumor, 3. We roll 5 deep at all positions, 4.  :bamahomer:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
He's only a 3 star. No need to bust out the "we didn't want him anyway" line.
Exactly why assuming we truly did is preposterous.

The kid made it known for weeks he was going to decommit and go to Clemson or UK where he could play RB.

You shop, we shop. Sound familiar?
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
3. We roll 5 deep at all positions, 4.  :bamahomer:
Sheeeeat, why didn't you just say so?
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 12:01:26 PM
Sheeeeat, why didn't you just say so?
Honestly though, the only reason I mention that rumor is because it somewhat deals with Lattimore. 

I don't think Howard would have decommitted or they would have pulled his offer unless they think Lattimore will sign up.  But that's just my gut feeling.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 12:02:53 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/TheRecruitnik/entry/view/54022/sn100_rb_lattimore_talks_once_more_before_decision (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/TheRecruitnik/entry/view/54022/sn100_rb_lattimore_talks_once_more_before_decision)

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SN100 RB Lattimore talks once more before decision
Monday, February 01, 2010
Posted By Brian McLaughlin 4:06 PM
By Brian McLaughlin
Sporting News

It's down to Auburn and South Carolina now. It's down to trying to become the next Darren McFadden or the next Fred Taylor, at least that's how the coaching staffs have pitched it to him.

Marcus Lattimore is the Sporting News Top 100's No. 2 overall prospect, and he talked to Sporting News Monday afternoon about his Tuesday evening announcement.

He said it's simple: He'll either thrive in Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn's spread offense, the way McFadden did the one year Malzahn was at Arkansas, or he'll be like Fred Taylor was under current South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier, when Spurrier coached at Florida.

"I'm excited about the announcement," Lattimore told Sporting News. "Either way, I know it's going to prepare me for the next level. That's the SEC, the league that will most prepare me to maybe go on to the next level, too. I know that first I need to get stronger and faster, too."

Lattimore broke down the two finalists--a duo that beat out Penn State and Oregon to be in the final two.

"If I go to South Carolina, I'd be a big-time receiver out of the backfield and I'd also run the ball a lot," Lattimore said. "I'm excited about that because I love catching the ball. I know it's going to be a challenge, but I've seen when coach Spurrier was at Florida, when he had a great tailback like Fred Taylor and Errict Rhett and how he used them. I've seen tape on how he used them."

But Auburn has a chance too.

"I think I'm going to be able to make plays at Auburn," Lattimore said. "I know I'd be utilized in the Wildcat offense like Darren McFadden was at Arkansas."


Both head coaches have what he likes, too.

"They're both no nonsense; both straight forward and I like that," Lattimore said. "With coach Spurrier, he's just hates to lose, and I don't like to lose. And when he gets a great tailback, he utilizes him."

The decision will come at 6 p.m. ET on Tuesday at his family's church in Spartanburg, S.C.

"I love everybody at my church; I've been a part of it since the fourth grade and that's where I've wanted to do it since last year when I started talking about signing day," Lattimore said. "My whole family will be there, and my coaches will all be there too. It's going to be fun."

The fact that he was more verbose with his "pros" of playing at SC scares me a little.

Also, if you hate to lose, then why the fuck would you consider playing at SC???
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 12:06:21 PM
However, after further review, notice how he said "If I go to SC, I'd be...", but says "I'm going to be able to make plays at Auburn"...
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 12:07:12 PM
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I just spoke with someone very close to Lattimore and they told me that he told them that he would be committing to South Carolina today.

http://www.wareagleauburn.com/WEAForum/index.php?topic=8841.0 (http://www.wareagleauburn.com/WEAForum/index.php?topic=8841.0)
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 12:07:51 PM
Exactly why assuming we truly did is preposterous.

The kid made it known for weeks he was going to decommit and go to Clemson or UK where he could play RB.

You shop, we shop. Sound familiar?
Thats why I found it to be total bullshit. I saw on a few boards that he was likely to decommit, so I would think that them "pulling his offer" when its been going around for weeks is probably untrue. I have no problem with a team shopping around if a kid is shaky on his commitment. At some point you have to decide whether you want this kid bad enough to put the full court press on and take your chances, or whether you just want to find somebody else.

Take the Keenan Allen situation, for example. When it appeared that Allen was shaky last week, Alabama dialed up Dequan Menzie. I said on BOL when he committed that this probably means the staff knows that Allen is gone, as it seemed obvious that us landing a DB commit this late was a sign that the staff knew they weren't offering his brother, so we weren't going to end up with Allen. Of course, I got flamed for it, but whatever. The point still stands on that.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 12:13:03 PM
I think it sounds like Spurrier sold the kid.  Which, to me, is amazing.  So in ten years at Florida, and all the talent he recruited...he produced Taylor (who only had decent seasons at Florida) and Rhett?  That's it?  In all the years there?

Check Auburn over the same period of time (including Spurrier's time at SC)....James Bostic, Stephen Davis, Heath Evans, Rudi Johnson, Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Kenny Irons, Ben Tate.  Oh well, good job Spurrier, keeping your guys home is important.

So I'm moving on to Lemonier and whatever surprise NSD may bring.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on February 02, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
Would be interesting to see if Seastrunk makes a change if that opens up and Lattimore goes with SC.   Just one of those back of the house things that could spring out of nowhere.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on February 02, 2010, 12:37:15 PM
Not only has DJ Howard de-committed from Auburn, but the coaches have pulled his offer.  According to M. Murphey at Scout, he's tried to re-commit since has been told that he no longer has a spot available.

Ouch.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 12:41:10 PM
Not only has DJ Howard de-committed from Auburn, but the coaches have pulled his offer.  According to M. Murphey at Scout, he's tried to re-commit since has been told that he no longer has a spot available.

Ouch.
Yeah, and we pulled Keenan Allen's offer too.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Thrilla on February 02, 2010, 12:44:10 PM

So I'm moving on to Lemonier and whatever surprise NSD may bring.

This.

Why in the fuck would Lattimore announce he's inking with Auburn, when he has all the members of his church congregration, all of his coaches, and all of his family in attendance?  Obviously they want him to succeed wherever he goes, but he's doing it at his church to appease all these folks who are probably USCe fans.

Paging Mr. Seastrunk...
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on February 02, 2010, 12:44:47 PM
Yeah, and we pulled Keenan Allen's offer too.

DJ wasn't the top rated back, and it might be very possible that his offer is NOT available any longer.

If you are being sarcastic (which I know you are), you can fuck yourself.  Fact is, K. Allen was a top rated player, with bammers stalking his facebook page, willing to sacrifice their first born (j/k..but still).  Not the same thing.  Fail.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 12:49:54 PM
DJ wasn't the top rated back, and it might be very possible that his offer is NOT available any longer.

If you are being sarcastic (which I know you are), you can fuck yourself.  Fact is, K. Allen was a top rated player, with bammers stalking his facebook page, willing to sacrifice their first born (j/k..but still).  Not the same thing.  Fail.
We pulled his offer so we could get Dequan Menzie (#2 JUCO DB). Didn't you know that? The coaches felt Menzie was a better fit, as he is a true DB. Supposedly, the coaches pulled his offer, then when he tried to reassure them of his commitment, they told him to look elsewhere.

Ouch.

Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Jumbo on February 02, 2010, 12:57:20 PM
http://www.wareagleauburn.com/WEAForum/index.php?topic=8841.0 (http://www.wareagleauburn.com/WEAForum/index.php?topic=8841.0)

Fuck, I had my Seastruck Lattimore for heisman t-shirts ready to print.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 12:58:14 PM
Yeah, cause it's equally logical that a team would pull their #1 prospect's offer just "to make room" for another player as it is for a team to pull one of their lowest ranked players' offer.

Same exact thing...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on February 02, 2010, 12:59:34 PM
Yeah, cause it's equally logical that a team would pull their #1 prospect's offer just "to make room" for another player as it is for a team to pull one of their lowest ranked players' offer.

Same exact thing...  :rolleyes:

Exactly.  Do you expect anything differnet though?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 01:06:54 PM
We pulled his offer so we could get Dequan Menzie (#2 JUCO DB). Didn't you know that? The coaches felt Menzie was a better fit, as he is a true DB. Supposedly, the coaches pulled his offer, then when he tried to reassure them of his commitment, they told him to look elsewhere.

Ouch.



(http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bullshit2.jpg)
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 01:18:33 PM
(http://www.bitterwallet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bullshit2.jpg)
I know. Simply showing how the ol' "Meh, we pulled his offer anyway" line can be applied to anything. I just find it amusing that when an Alabama fan pulls the same tired line, its total bullshit, etc etc. But when its about an AU recruit? Its the Gospel. It sort of reminds me of the Brandon Heavens thing.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 01:23:20 PM
I know. Simply showing how the ol' "Meh, we pulled his offer anyway" line can be applied to anything. I just find it amusing that when an Alabama fan pulls the same tired line, its total bullshit, etc etc. But when its about an AU recruit? Its the Gospel. It sort of reminds me of the Brandon Heavens thing.
That's because you have no analytical thinking skills whatsoever, and can't properly apply logic to a situation, apparently
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 01:30:45 PM
That's because you have no analytical thinking skills whatsoever, and can't properly apply logic to a situation, apparently
I can apply logic and see the hypocrisy to this. Like I pointed out with the Heavens thing, we had guys higher on the board at WR. Why couldn't we just say "Oh yeah, his offer got pulled" without backlash, but seemingly anybody that decommits from AU really did have their offer pulled? Why can't kids just decide to go to a different school? That goes for people of my fanbase as well. To alot of kids, its nothing personal. Simply business. I don't see why, as fans, we should take it any other way.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 01:34:30 PM
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/02/a_3.html (http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/02/a_3.html)

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**Marcus Lattimore. Auburn may have to be satisfied with just one of the nation's top-ranked running backs, but not the other. Michael Dyer, who ESPN says is the No. 1 back and who's been committed for months, may not find a running partner in Lattimore, who's rated No. 1 by Rivals and Scout.

Lattimore says he's considering South Carolina and Auburn. He'll announce his decision at Silver Hill Memorial United Methodist Church at 5 p.m. today in Spartanburg.

A panel of five Rivals recruiting experts all guessed today that Lattimore would sign with South Carolina. The two Scout panelists guessed South Carolina, too.

As I said before, I'm still about 51% sure myself that he'll be going to SC, but I really think that at this point no one knows for sure besides him and his family.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 01:38:46 PM
I can apply logic and see the hypocrisy to this. Like I pointed out with the Heavens thing, we had guys higher on the board at WR. Why couldn't we just say "Oh yeah, his offer got pulled" without backlash, but seemingly anybody that decommits from AU really did have their offer pulled? Why can't kids just decide to go to a different school? That goes for people of my fanbase as well. To alot of kids, its nothing personal. Simply business. I don't see why, as fans, we should take it any other way.
Oh, and by the way, Scout now lists as "No offer".

http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=3602696 (http://arkansas.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=3602696)
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 01:43:49 PM
Oh, and by the way, Scout no longer lists an Auburn offer.
And? Rivals still has him committed. Kenneth Carter doesn't show offers from Alabama or Auburn on his Scout or Rivals profile, but you guys sure as hell maintain that he in fact had an Alabama offer. I can keep pointing out the hypocrisy here if you like.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 01:43:54 PM
Its nothing personal. Simply business.  

Business is always personal. It's the most personal thing in the world
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Saniflush on February 02, 2010, 01:48:57 PM
Not true.  Taylor said taking aload down the hatch is as personal as it gets.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 01:50:03 PM
Not true.  Taylor said taking aload down the hatch is as personal as it gets.
Which is business for him, so there you go.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Saniflush on February 02, 2010, 01:50:44 PM
Which is business for him, so there you go.

Recession proof even.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
Not true.  Taylor said taking aload down the hatch is as personal as it gets.
I make money.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Token on February 02, 2010, 02:25:55 PM
Straight from the skeets of Rivals.com

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Look for Ryan Smith, 3* prospect from Cordova, to make a switch to AU on signing day. Ryan and his mother took a visit to the Plains yesterday, and I believe an offer will be extended. This has nothing to do with Coleman, but more to do with Howard. Howard supposedly contacted Lattimore and the two prospects discussed the stories that were being told by the AU staff. The end result will be Howard to Clemson, and possibly Latt to SC.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: GH2001 on February 02, 2010, 02:29:13 PM
Straight from the skeets of Rivals.com


See my new topic that has this in it.....

http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=8612.0 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=8612.0)

There is also another player looking at AU people aren't talking about.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
Lattimore delayed the press conference 20 minutes, so that it could be aired on SC local television...

 :sad:
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: GH2001 on February 02, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Lattimore delayed the press conference 20 minutes, so that it could be aired on SC local television...

 :sad:

He's gone dude.....unless he plans on really throwing everyone a curveball.

I am afraid Lemenoir and Coleman are gone as well. Again - I hope I am wrong as wrong can be.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 04:54:23 PM
He's gone dude.....unless he plans on really throwing everyone a curveball.

I am afraid Lemenoir and Coleman are gone as well. Again - I hope I am wrong as wrong can be.

Lattimore is gone, the news thing is the clincher. 

The other two?  I bet they are both 50/50 even right now.  We'll see....hopefully we get at least a split there.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: chinook on February 02, 2010, 05:11:51 PM
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Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 02, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
Who's broadcasting the Lattimore announcement? Link plz.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: bottomfeeder on February 02, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
Lattimore delayed the press conference 20 minutes, so that it could be aired on SC local television...

 :sad:

Where did you get this from?
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: RWS on February 02, 2010, 05:37:53 PM
Even if AU doesn't land Lattimore or Lemonier, you guys have plenty to be excited about. As far as Coleman goes, the smart bet is him staying committed to AU. He is nearly guaranteed to be a starter at AU in 2011. If he is good as advertised, I think he would start at Alabama in 2011 as well for that matter. Its just that its nearly guaranteed at AU due to numbers.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: jadennis on February 02, 2010, 05:57:14 PM
Just saw this from a poster (that is said to be a former player and typically reliable)...probably means nothing, but it was one of the mildly respected posts I saw lately from someone that other posters vouched for in the past.


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Lattimore 85% SC still some hope as of about 3 hours ago then I would've had it 100% but some late developments trying to get back what we had last Friday...

Lemonier 60% Auburn... That used to be 90% Auburn but FSU has made it tough and got it close to even but we still hold the edge...

Byran Jones 80% Auburn... I believe we already have him but I won't go any higher than that right now...

Shon Coleman 100% Auburn quit being scared of your bammer cousins...

There is supposed to be a surprise commit but the name keeps changing so I am not holding my breath...


We have some guys that are willing to grey shirt if the numbers don't work but may end up with Scholarships if certain things don't work out they are 2 stars so everybody don't go into meltdown mode...
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 06:05:51 PM
Just saw this from a poster (that is said to be a former player and typically reliable)...probably means nothing, but it was one of the mildly respected posts I saw lately from someone that other posters vouched for in the past.


This would make me happy.

Where did you get this from?
Radio.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Mr. Sensible on February 02, 2010, 06:09:56 PM
We got hat tricked. Enjoy running with Steveo.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: wreckingball on February 02, 2010, 06:10:25 PM
Damn.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AWK on February 02, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
I understand it, and I don't.

South Carolina running the ball?  Never.  Good Offense?  Nope.  Good Offensive line? Nope.  Championships? Nope.

Close to home? Yeah.  Friends and Family fans? Yeah.

Ehhh.  Good Luck hat trick McGee.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: Kaos on February 02, 2010, 06:18:18 PM
Dumbass move. His loss.

Look forward to watching him get drilled when we play them next.  
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: AUChizad on February 02, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
Lattimore 85% SC still some hope as of about 3 hours ago then I would've had it 100% but some late developments trying to get back what we had last Friday...

Lemonier 60% Auburn... That used to be 90% Auburn but FSU has made it tough and got it close to even but we still hold the edge...

Byran Jones 80% Auburn... I believe we already have him but I won't go any higher than that right now...

Shon Coleman 100% Auburn quit being scared of your bammer cousins...

There is supposed to be a surprise commit but the name keeps changing so I am not holding my breath...


We have some guys that are willing to grey shirt if the numbers don't work but may end up with Scholarships if certain things don't work out they are 2 stars so everybody don't go into meltdown mode...

Well, one of his predictions were correct. Let's hope at least that all the rest are too.
Title: Re: In re: Lattimore
Post by: GH2001 on February 02, 2010, 07:32:22 PM
Dumbass move. His loss.

Look forward to watching him get drilled when we play them next.  

Exactly. I hope his friends and family are there for him when SCe is sucking ass as they always do and he is there thinking  "why the fuck did I go here..."....Stephen Davis can go fuck off......2 timing cock sucker.