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Title: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 11, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
Not a flame, but I've noticed some negative feelings about what's happening going into next year.  What is it based on?   Chizik?  Players?   I just can't seem to put my thumb on why Iowa State records and such, and Chizik insults are still flying based on what's going on currently.  What I've seen aren't devil's advocate, or playful comments.  They're predictions of the still ever pending doom that is to fall over Auburn. 

Please to be explainin'?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 11, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
In theology, John Calvin and Jacob Arminius were not that far apart on many things.  But on one issue they disagreed.  In that disagreement, in order to explain and argue their side, they pushed each other further and further from the center.  Neither becoming more right or more wrong, but just more opposite and further from center in their arguments against each other.

A similar thing happens here often.  You and Mr Sensible may be one inch left of center and one inch right of center, respectively.  But as you make your "1 inch right of center" comment, the guy on the other side feels he need to go 2 inches left of center to offset you.  Then you (not literally you) go 3 inches right to counteract his two inches left. 

Pretty soon there is a fight where one side appears 20 feet left of center and the other 20 feet right of center....when in reality, there is much both sides could agree on in regards to the other sides stance, which is why the argument started only two inches apart....each side one inch from center.

Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 11, 2010, 12:24:34 PM
In theology, John Calvin and Jacob Arminius were not that far apart on many things.  But on one issue they disagreed.  In that disagreement, in order to explain and argue their side, they pushed each other further and further from the center.  Neither becoming more right or more wrong, but just more opposite and further from center in their arguments against each other.

A similar thing happens here often.  You and Mr Sensible may be one inch left of center and one inch right of center, respectively.  But as you make your "1 inch right of center" comment, the guy on the other side feels he need to go 2 inches left of center to offset you.  Then you (not literally you) go 3 inches right to counteract his two inches left. 

Pretty soon there is a fight where one side appears 20 feet left of center and the other 20 feet right of center....when in reality, there is much both sides could agree on in regards to the other sides stance, which is why the argument started only two inches apart....each side one inch from center.



Agreed.  Totally.  I'm not sure I even want to debate, or say anything back.  I think as long as there's no name calling, or making it personal, I'd just like to see what the negative, or cynics are saying to make them believe that Auburn is still heading in the wrong direction based on current events.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 11, 2010, 12:33:31 PM
In theology, John Calvin and Jacob Arminius were not that far apart on many things.  But on one issue they disagreed.  In that disagreement, in order to explain and argue their side, they pushed each other further and further from the center.  Neither becoming more right or more wrong, but just more opposite and further from center in their arguments against each other.

A similar thing happens here often.  You and Mr Sensible may be one inch left of center and one inch right of center, respectively.  But as you make your "1 inch right of center" comment, the guy on the other side feels he need to go 2 inches left of center to offset you.  Then you (not literally you) go 3 inches right to counteract his two inches left. 

Pretty soon there is a fight where one side appears 20 feet left of center and the other 20 feet right of center....when in reality, there is much both sides could agree on in regards to the other sides stance, which is why the argument started only two inches apart....each side one inch from center.



This
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: GH2001 on January 11, 2010, 12:34:53 PM
In theology, John Calvin and Jacob Arminius were not that far apart on many things.  But on one issue they disagreed.  In that disagreement, in order to explain and argue their side, they pushed each other further and further from the center.  Neither becoming more right or more wrong, but just more opposite and further from center in their arguments against each other.

A similar thing happens here often.  You and Mr Sensible may be one inch left of center and one inch right of center, respectively.  But as you make your "1 inch right of center" comment, the guy on the other side feels he need to go 2 inches left of center to offset you.  Then you (not literally you) go 3 inches right to counteract his two inches left. 

Pretty soon there is a fight where one side appears 20 feet left of center and the other 20 feet right of center....when in reality, there is much both sides could agree on in regards to the other sides stance, which is why the argument started only two inches apart....each side one inch from center.



Yes, that happens when one said wants to be a cynical smartass.....
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 11, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
Okay...If I'm on the left one inch... What makes the other feel like one inch over on the right is the right way to go in this situation?

Still not getting that answer...
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 11, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
An abrasive personality tends to receive a rebuttal more often than not.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 11, 2010, 12:40:58 PM
Still not getting that answer...

And you probably want because once some folks draw their lines of argument, there is no going back regardless of the overwhelming proof that disagrees with their stance.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: No Huddle on January 11, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
Maybe you two should focus you energy on the bama fan.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 11, 2010, 04:09:02 PM
Much of it can be attributed to the environment in which you are raised. Mine was mostly negative, I'm not poor mouthing just stating how it was. And depending on the mentality, one is expected to not fail or not do wrong. And Germans aren't known to go around yuking it up, or smiling too much. And the Irish are negative as well in spite of all the drinking and singing. I didn't have a phuking chance. You've read my posts! I'm crazy as hell.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 11, 2010, 04:34:25 PM
Much of it can be attributed to the environment in which you are raised. Mine was mostly negative, I'm not poor mouthing just stating how it was. And depending on the mentality, one is expected to not fail or not do wrong. And Germans aren't known to go around yuking it up, or smiling too much. And the Irish are negative as well in spite of all the drinking and singing. I didn't have a phuking chance. You've read my posts! I'm crazy as hell.

I'm Scottish so that means I'll let you draw and quarter me and then drink with you.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: The Prowler on January 11, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
I'm German and Irish.  So, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 11, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Christ, I was and still am to a large degree a Tuberville fan. Hell, I'll argue for Tubs and let someone else take Chizik. But you can't compare one's departure and the other's arrival. They do things so differently. Chizik hasn't the field presense that Tub's had. (camera) Tub's had a system in place and Chizik is still laying the foundation for his-and recruiting hard, with results like I haven't ever seen at Auburn. (on paper) I'm encouraged just by what I have seen. Maybe some of you see more quality depth than I do. Maybe I can't count either.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: The Prowler on January 11, 2010, 08:10:11 PM
Christ, I was and still am to a large degree a Tuberville fan. Hell, I'll argue for Tubs and let someone else take Chizik. But you can't compare one's departure and the other's arrival. They do things so differently. Chizik hasn't the field presense that Tub's had. (camera) Tub's had a system in place and Chizik is still laying the foundation for his-and recruiting hard, with results like I haven't ever seen at Auburn. (on paper) I'm encouraged just by what I have seen. Maybe some of you see more quality depth than I do. Maybe I can't count either.
I can count to Potatoe.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 11, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
I can too and I am positive that Chizik is ahead of schedule.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: GH2001 on January 12, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
Much of it can be attributed to the environment in which you are raised. Mine was mostly negative, I'm not poor mouthing just stating how it was. And depending on the mentality, one is expected to not fail or not do wrong. And Germans aren't known to go around yuking it up, or smiling too much. And the Irish are negative as well in spite of all the drinking and singing. I didn't have a phuking chance. You've read my posts! I'm crazy as hell.

Wondering how the fuck did ethnicity make it into the convo.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 12, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
Wondering how the phuk did ethnicity make it into the convo.

Evolution? :)
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 12, 2010, 11:43:42 PM
Well mostly because chizik has not done anything. We pounded some cup cakes. We have a highly rated recruiting class, except it completely ignores the massive shortcomings in our program, but hey!! it hasa bunch of pretty lil stars in it. The "leader" aint leading. The objective crowd can see that the chiziktonians on the other hand, well Auburn will be much better off when they too are culled from the herd.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 12, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
Well mostly because chizik has not done anything. We pounded some cup cakes. We have a highly rated recruiting class, except it completely ignores the massive shortcomings in our program, but hey!! it hasa bunch of pretty lil stars in it. The "leader" aint leading. The objective crowd can see that the chiziktonians on the other hand, well Auburn will be much better off when they too are culled from the herd.

puff puff give....




 :high:
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 12:10:59 AM
Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 13, 2010, 12:18:22 AM
Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PaHcZUHI00#)
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 13, 2010, 04:28:06 AM
Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.
Can we take up a collection?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 08:59:47 AM
Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.

Wow, way to make a whole lot of sense there weazy.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: GH2001 on January 13, 2010, 09:24:18 AM
Wow, way to make a whole lot of sense there weazy.

dude lives in his own little world.....
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 09:57:38 AM
puff puff give....




 :high:

Fucking ridiculous. 

Guy gives his opinion, it doesn't jibe with yours and this is your response. 

This is why this pathetic cry for attention in the guise of a thread should have been deleted from the start. 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 09:58:42 AM
dude lives in his own little world.....


To be fair, so do Chopper and Prowler. 

None of the divergent planes are any more connected to reality than the other.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
To be fair, so do Chopper and Prowler. 

None of the divergent planes are any more connected to reality than the other.

I think he was referring to the one comment from greasy that didnt make any sense.
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Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.

Of course, I have been known to not make much sense to myself at times.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
I think he was referring to the one comment from greasy that didnt make any sense.
Of course, I have been known to not make much sense to myself at times.


I make plenty of sense to myself.  Not sure how that translates.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 10:33:39 AM
I make plenty of sense to myself.  Not sure how that translates.

So you've never said to yourself, "What the hell are you doing"?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 10:42:43 AM
So you've never said to yourself, "What the hell are you doing"?

Nope. 

Now after I've destroyed some poor simp or done something that wasn't entirely constructive, I may have said "What the hell did you just do?"  But never the other.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 10:49:09 AM
I've destroyed some poor simp
:cage:

Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 12:36:42 PM
Oh fuck a mallard.  Call the fucking PC police. 

Sorry, but simp is not a tainted word.  It's short for simpleton, which is a perfectly acceptable and legitimate word.

sim·ple·ton  (smpl-tn)
n.
A person who is felt to be deficient in judgment, good sense, or intelligence; a fool.


We got plenty of simps around here.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: wesfau2 on January 13, 2010, 12:40:41 PM
Oh fuck a mallard.  Call the fucking PC police. 

Sorry, but simp is not a tainted word.  It's short for simpleton, which is a perfectly acceptable and legitimate word.

sim·ple·ton  (smpl-tn)
n.
A person who is felt to be deficient in judgment, good sense, or intelligence; a fool.


We got plenty of simps around here.

Hey, hair trigger, check out dude's username.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 13, 2010, 12:44:16 PM
Hey, hair trigger, check out dude's username.
Dont cloud God Kaos with the lost irony.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 12:58:40 PM
Hey, hair trigger, check out dude's username.

Well fuck me running.  Which should be easier since I've slowed down in the last few years. 

Damn.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 02:07:56 PM
Hey, hair trigger, check out dude's username.

Yeah, check out dude's username. :bar:
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 13, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
There's only one constant attention whore on this board, and his name rhymes with Kaos.  

We have a highly rated recruiting class, except it completely ignores the massive shortcomings in our program, but hey!! it hasa bunch of pretty lil stars in it. The "leader" aint leading. The objective crowd can see that the chiziktonians on the other hand, well Auburn will be much better off when they too are culled from the herd.

The bolded is what's fucking ridiculous.  What's pathetic and ridiculous is getting chased around here by YOU and bashed on sight.    

 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 13, 2010, 05:38:19 PM
There's only one constant attention whore on this board, and his name rhymes with Kaos.  

The bolded is what's fucking ridiculous.  What's pathetic and ridiculous is getting chased around here by YOU and bashed on sight.    

 
I can be a homer right with the best of them, but I can't figure that statement out either. Right now for the 2010 class, AU has the following: One QB, one RB, two WR, four OL, two TE, four DL, four LB, two DB, five ATH, and a kicker. There will be a few additions as well, I'm sure.

Just exactly how the fuck does that class ignore a shortcoming? Especially when the QB, RB, and one OL are all 5* guys? On paper, thats a pretty balanced and talented class. Now, a year or so down the road, if say half of these guys don't work out, then AU is pretty fucked. There will certainly be some that won't work out, and that happens in every class everywhere. Thats fine. Please explain what position is being neglected here. I'm just not really seeing it.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 13, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
I can be a homer right with the best of them, but I can't figure that statement out either. Right now for the 2010 class, AU has the following: One QB, one RB, two WR, four OL, two TE, four DL, four LB, two DB, five ATH, and a kicker. There will be a few additions as well, I'm sure.

Just exactly how the fuck does that class ignore a shortcoming? Especially when the QB, RB, and one OL are all 5* guys? On paper, thats a pretty balanced and talented class. Now, a year or so down the road, if say half of these guys don't work out, then AU is pretty fucked. There will certainly be some that won't work out, and that happens in every class everywhere. Thats fine. Please explain what position is being neglected here. I'm just not really seeing it.

1.  Dude, Chizik is a moron and has no idea what AU needs
2.  Dude, Chizik is a moron and will fuck up everything
3.  Dude, did I mention Chizik is a moron
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 13, 2010, 05:46:38 PM
I can be a homer right with the best of them, but I can't figure that statement out either. Right now for the 2010 class, AU has the following: One QB, one RB, two WR, four OL, two TE, four DL, four LB, two DB, five ATH, and a kicker. There will be a few additions as well, I'm sure.

Just exactly how the fuck does that class ignore a shortcoming? Especially when the QB, RB, and one OL are all 5* guys? On paper, thats a pretty balanced and talented class. Now, a year or so down the road, if say half of these guys don't work out, then AU is pretty fucked. There will certainly be some that won't work out, and that happens in every class everywhere. Thats fine. Please explain what position is being neglected here. I'm just not really seeing it.
It didn't make a shred of sense. Greasey clearly barely knows how to spell his own name, let alone a damn thing about football.

He's obviously grasping for straws because he predicted we'd go 2-10 this year, and have the worst recruiting class in Auburn history. And not a casual in-passing kind of thing. He said it in every fucking thread on this board in some form or fashion. Now that he has been proven completely and utterly wrong, he resorts to babbling incoherently as excuses that "make sense to him".

Then K-Sancho has to come defend him, as if he made any sense whatsoever. (See what I did there?)
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
OK to explain myself to the knuckle draggers. We need linemen tons and tons of linemen. While he did address our need for a Q-back this cat just doesn't seem to be up to snuff for the needs in the short or long term future. But hey I honestly don't expect him to do any better with his recruiting than I saw him do with his coaching. I saw how many 14 point leads pissed away? I saw players getting penalized in the bowl game for sheer thuggery, basically what ever control he had over his team had began to erode before the end of his first season. At ISU he probably did not inherit a team that had been coached and taught correctly (remember the stories of the players and sidelines in disarray?). At Auburn he did get one of the best coached and least penalized teams fielded in the SEC, heck the nation for that matter. What happened to them? A coach must first and foremost be in control or else he is just another spectator on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 06:08:48 PM
Well that proves that you are not on the side of Auburn.

I've said it no telling how many times on here. Either your backing Auburn or your backing chizik. There is no middle ground except for idiots.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 13, 2010, 06:15:13 PM
OK to explain myself to the knuckle draggers. We need linemen tons and tons of linemen. While he did address our need for a Q-back this cat just doesn't seem to be up to snuff for the needs in the short or long term future. But hey I honestly don't expect him to do any better with his recruiting than I saw him do with his coaching. I saw how many 14 point leads pissed away? I saw players getting penalized in the bowl game for sheer thuggery, basically what ever control he had over his team had began to erode before the end of his first season. At ISU he probably did not inherit a team that had been coached and taught correctly (remember the stories of the players and sidelines in disarray?). At Auburn he did get one of the best coached and least penalized teams fielded in the SEC, heck the nation for that matter. What happened to them? A coach must first and foremost be in control or else he is just another spectator on the sidelines.

This has just about zero to do with the statement in question.

Your statement said the recruiting class ignores the shortcomings in the program.  Even the local bammer pointed out how completely moronic that is. 

In this latest waste of my time quoted above, you mention something about our incoming 5-star QB, and then nothing else related to your statement.  Your stupidity and vendetta against this man even has bama fans scratching their heads.

And no one was happy with the penalties, especially the staff.  But I have two references for you.....2006 and 2007.  Those two years LSU and Florida won the national title.  Both years, both teams ranked below #100 in penalties.  It's not the end of the world, and I'm betting it improves next year and that the bowl game is not the standard we'll see going forward.

Let me guess...Auburn goes 0-12 and leads the nation in personal fouls for 2010.  :poke:



Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 13, 2010, 06:18:36 PM
I've said it no telling how many times on here. I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass I'm a dumb ass.

We know, thanks.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
This has just about zero to do with the statement in question.

Your statement said the recruiting class ignores the shortcomings in the program.  Even the local bammer pointed out how completely moronic that is. 

In this latest waste of my time quoted above, you mention something about our incoming 5-star QB, and then nothing else related to your statement.  Your stupidity and vendetta against this man even has bama fans scratching their heads.

And no one was happy with the penalties, especially the staff.  But I have two references for you.....2006 and 2007.  Those two years LSU and Florida won the national title.  Both years, both teams ranked below #100 in penalties.  It's not the end of the world, and I'm betting it improves next year and that the bowl game is not the standard we'll see going forward.

Let me guess...Auburn goes 0-12 and leads the nation in personal fouls for 2010.  :poke:





Well lets just cut to the fuckin' chase then shall we?
Auburn is not in a good position in the long term with fuckboy and company in control. That is why there is so much negativity.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUsweetheart on January 13, 2010, 06:29:15 PM
I'm really starting to hate Wednesdays.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
Wait till chizik hits his stride. Then your gonna hate getting up every morning.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 06:43:18 PM


Then K-Sancho has to come defend him, as if he made any sense whatsoever. (See what I did there?)

Don't be swiping my schtick, swiper. 

I didn't defend him so much as point out the utter douchiness of this entire asinine thread.  It's nothing more than another patented "look at me" from Chopper, the ultimate kiss ass.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 13, 2010, 06:43:25 PM
Wait till chizik hits his stride. Then your gonna hate getting up every morning.

I'm not saying he is a world beater, but i kind of like the stride Chiz has shown over his first year or so.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 06:45:05 PM
I'm not saying he is a world beater, but i kind of like the stride Chiz has shown over his first year or so.

You like any man's stride, snookums.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 13, 2010, 07:03:27 PM
Don't be swiping my schtick, swiper. 

I didn't defend him so much as point out the utter douchiness of this entire asinine thread.  It's nothing more than another patented "look at me" from Chopper, the ultimate kiss ass.


No, you came rushing in to save the fucktard cartoon character YOU brought to the board.  Thanks.   
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AWK on January 13, 2010, 07:24:30 PM
Well lets just cut to the fuckin' chase then shall we?
Auburn is not in a good position in the long term with fuckboy and company in control. That is why there is so much negativity.


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1.  Dude, Chizik is a moron and has no idea what AU needs
2.  Dude, Chizik is a moron and will fuck up everything
3.  Dude, did I mention Chizik is a moron

The correct answer was 2.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 07:41:39 PM

No, you came rushing in to save the fucktard cartoon character YOU brought to the board.  Thanks.   

Lord at the dumbass.  This thread is stupid.  It needs to be deleted. 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 13, 2010, 07:56:07 PM
I'll tell you why.

It's because 5-19 became 13-24 this year and some people act like it's the second coming of Knute Fucking Rockne. You all bash on people like me who still question whether or not this is gonna work long-term by saying shit like "negativity is bad for the program" or "Auburn men/women don't ever point to the flaws." The fact is neither side knows whether or not this is going to work, so there's nothing more wrong with taking a wait and see approach than there is to the blind loyalty many of you espouse.

This thread blows like a blue whale.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 08:04:49 PM
Fuck it.  Let's get it all out there on the table.

Why the negativity?  Is that your motherfucking  question?  Pretty simple.  

Because some of you see anything that doesn't fit your own cockeyed perception of how things are as "negativity."  

Auburn gave up 600 fucking passing yards to Northwestern.  That sucks.  But if you say it sucks, some of you flaming unicorn riding fairies immediately start your pussy-ass bitching.  

"Why do you have to be so negative," you pussy-achers whine.  "Don't you know we only had one linebacker and our defensive back played with a swollen scrotum?"  

So you've justified it to yourself by whatever means you choose. Now anyone who doesn't kowtow to your self-crafted position is "negative."  Fuck that.  Fuck it ten ways to Sunday.

You, Chop, and a couple of others have had your dicks on full Viagra/Cialis alert since about two weeks after Chizik was hired.  You've denigrated everything that happened in the previous ten years and taken shots at Tuberville -- who was to many of us as stand up an Auburn guy as there was.  He kept us OUT of trouble -- the only coach since I've been alive who was there more than four years to manage that feat -- and he kept us competitive with the exception of his final year (which was really about four plays from being a typical eight or nine win season).  But that now means nothing because he was a BBQ loving lazy ass.  Right.

It's not enough for you to say Chizik is doing well, you have to pad it with shots at Tuberville as you do.  That's pathetic and it's full-on retard Bama mentality.  It's the same kind of shit they did with Shula - who wasn't half the coach Tuberville was and may or may not be twice the coach Chizik is.  

Anything that's REMOTELY tinged with objectivity is immediately shouted down by you and a couple of others with your patented dullard hammer.  

It's NOT negative for the most part, it's just DIFFERENT than whatever fairyland perception you happen to have.  

Some of GW's stuff -- no, let's be fair, 99% of it -- is way over the edge.   His delivery could use some work.  Doesn't mean everything he says is shit because he happens to disagree with YOU.  

Same with a few others who attempt to offer an opinion from the other side of the fence only to be met with dino-rants from a couple of dimbulbs here.  

You call it negativity because it doesn't jibe with your particular world view.   That's ignorant.  It's the same kind of ridiculous bullshit the democrats do when a Republican makes a point.  Rather than addressing the legitimacy of the issue, they start pussy-whining about "hate speech" and "mean spirited" manure.  

If you disagree with somebody that's fine.  You can disagree wholeheartedly.  But your doobie-doobie-doo method of "debate" is insulting and adds zero, zip, zilch, nada, nothing to the discussion.

Negative, is a relative term depending on where you stand.  GW is more "negative" than me.  So is Sensi.  Of course they'd probably argue that it's YOU who are negative because you don't bother to understand the argument before you start bulling around.  I'm more negative than you according to your definition.  But you are more negative than some I've seen.  So who's negative?  Anybody who doesn't agree with your position?  Pffffffffffttttt.  

Delete the thread.  It's worthless.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 13, 2010, 08:13:44 PM
Most of that was your opinion, and you're welcome to it.  As far as the incorrect, mischaracterizations, assumptions and just total bullshit as it concerns your opinion about me, and others, you're welcome to those opinions too.  However, bullshit is bullshit.

Anyway, I know you went and lit a keyboard on fire or something to celebrate this explosion of passionate fuck filled bliss...so... congrats, I guess.



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Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 13, 2010, 08:30:46 PM
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Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: The Prowler on January 13, 2010, 08:32:35 PM
Fuck it

That's about all one should take from your babbling...
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AWK on January 13, 2010, 08:37:50 PM
I'll tell you why.

It's because 5-19 became 13-24 this year and some people act like it's the second coming of Knute Fucking Rockne. You all bash on people like me who still question whether or not this is gonna work long-term by saying shit like "negativity is bad for the program" or "Auburn men/women don't ever point to the flaws." The fact is neither side knows whether or not this is going to work, so there's nothing more wrong with taking a wait and see approach than there is to the blind loyalty many of you espouse.

This thread blows like a blue whale.
The funny thing is, I think a majority of us here have stated over and over that we are taking the wait and see approach.  Somehow, though, you miss that. 

The difference is, I am going to wait and see, AND think positive of things that go well and not spew everything into a shitfest.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 13, 2010, 08:52:32 PM
Wait and see is not an opinion.

It's a cop out.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AWK on January 13, 2010, 09:31:39 PM
Wait and see is not an opinion.

It's a cop out.
And pre-judging is bullshit.  And blind hatred while disregarding the facts is ignorance.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: The Prowler on January 13, 2010, 09:36:19 PM
Well mostly because chizik has not done anything. We pounded some cup cakes. We have a highly rated recruiting class, except it completely ignores the massive shortcomings in our program, but hey!! it hasa bunch of pretty lil stars in it. The "leader" aint leading. The objective crowd can see that the chiziktonians on the other hand, well Auburn will be much better off when they too are culled from the herd.
You do realize that Auburn has 6 more slots open....right?  Also, of the remaining 6 slots, Auburn is targeting; 1 RB, 1 OL, 1 DE, 3 DTs, 1 LB/S.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
You know something, I don't fucking live and die by this shit. I feel sorry for you I really really do. To be able to quote or look up details to this degree shows me that what time you played football is the one part of your life that you have never gotten past. Trust me as much as I hate chizik and the moron patrol I feel sorry for you even more. Your life is stuck in your past. Sad.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 13, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
You know something, I don't fucking live and die by this shit. I feel sorry for you I really really do. To be able to quote or look up details to this degree shows me that what time you played football is the one part of your life that you have never gotten past. Trust me as much as I hate chizik and the moron patrol I feel sorry for you even more. Your life is stuck in your past. Sad.
Translation: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but that's not going to stop me from bitching up a storm!!!
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 13, 2010, 11:45:59 PM
You know something, I don't phuking live and die by this poop. I feel sorry for you I really really do. To be able to quote or look up details to this degree shows me that what time you played football is the one part of your life that you have never gotten past. Trust me as much as I hate chizik and the moron patrol I feel sorry for you even more. Your life is stuck in your past. Sad.

Really, I mean really, what the hell does any of this mean? At least I can get a good laugh out of this poop. You really need to study Edgar Allen Poe just a bit more because your imitation is pathetic.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 11:49:41 PM
No. It translates to I feel sorry for someone who's whole of being revolves around having the most up to the minute complete information about a subject that he has no personal stake in. The poor dumbass bounces from message board to message board looking for the latest poop trying to be the one to get the latest scoop. He lives and dies by a football team and internet message boards. I live in Tuscaloosa and I am surrounded by 10,000 retarded dressed in red fuckers who are the exact same way.  I honestly feel sorry for him. And no I had no idea about what he was talking about. But then again my brother in law can quote the NASCAR standings for the last 15-20 years. It's not something to be proud of, but he is. He thinks people are in awe of it meanwhile they laugh at him behind his back. Just like prowling for cock, he's so wrapped  up in his little world that he cannot have any other life.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 13, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
Greasy, you dont know shit! Your a dumb ass motherfucker, you should pay us for reading your bullshit.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Greaseyweasel on January 13, 2010, 11:56:08 PM
Greasy, you dont know shit! Your a dumb ass motherfucker, you should pay us for reading your bullshit.
As if I give a flying rats ass what you think of me. Dance sheep dance.
How many different boards and forums does he cut-n paste shit from to put it on here? Maybe you don't like what I have to say but at least it is what I have to say. Its not someone else's work borrowed for my own use.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 12:38:02 AM
No. It translates to I feel sorry for someone who's whole of being revolves around having the most up to the minute complete information about a subject that he has no personal stake in. The poor dumbass bounces from message board to message board looking for the latest poop trying to be the one to get the latest scoop. He lives and dies by a football team and internet message boards. I live in Tuscaloosa and I am surrounded by 10,000 retarded dressed in red phukers who are the exact same way.  I honestly feel sorry for him. And no I had no idea about what he was talking about. But then again my brother in law can quote the NASCAR standings for the last 15-20 years. It's not something to be proud of, but he is. He thinks people are in awe of it meanwhile they laugh at him behind his back. Just like prowling for cock, he's so wrapped  up in his little world that he cannot have any other life.

Who the fuck left you in charge of everyone's personal time?  Prowler works his 40(probably more), and pays his taxes.  Who the fuck are you to decide what he should or should not do in his spare time?  He wants to spend 5 hours a day on the internet looking up football related shit?  It's none of your fucking business.  He, wants to be a freak and sell it on the weekend?  You guess it. None of your fucking business.

Kaos spends more time than he should defending your preposterous opinions.  Because you are exactly like "them".  If they don't share your "Chizik is da devil and everything is ruined" attitude, they aren't on Auburn's side?  Just because you are on the opposite side of the spectrum doesn't make your opinion more valid than theirs.

So shut the fuck up, you thick-headed, vacuous, bitch.


Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 14, 2010, 12:41:32 AM
Who the fuck left you in charge of everyone's personal time?  Prowler works his 40(probably more), and pays his taxes.  Who the fuck are you to decide what he should or should not do in his spare time?  He wants to spend 5 hours a day on the internet looking up football related shit?  It's none of your fucking business.  He, wants to be a freak and sell it on the weekend?  You guess it. None of your fucking business.

Kaos spends more time than he should defending your preposterous opinions.  Because you are exactly like "them".  If they don't share your "Chizik is da devil and everything is ruined" attitude, they aren't on Auburn's side?  Just because you are on the opposite side of the spectrum doesn't make your opinion more valid than theirs.

So shut the fuck up, you thick-headed, vacuous, bitch.

Holy shit.  I think I am in love with a bammer.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 01:27:49 AM
Some of us have some dead time on our hands. This is relaxation and fun for me and I think it is the negative types that display far too much seriousness. Hating must come easier for some individuals.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 14, 2010, 04:01:40 AM
Some of us have some dead time on our hands. This is relaxation and fun for me and I think it is the negative types that display far too much seriousness. Hating must come easier for some individuals.

This is all about dead time, homey.

Fact is, I liked Tubs, thought he got a raw deal (except the $5.1 mil) and wish it had gone down differently. Chizik came in and won some games, lost some games, and the fan base is still divided. Meanwhile, the dark empire woke the fuck up and "won" a championship which, as we all know, means they think they won like four.

For all of the efforts of Tubs and even Chizik's crew, Auburn is still just a regional (at best) story/program and I fear that isn't going to change in spite of the impending "Recruiting Championship." (Chizad getting ready to enjoy some steak on me?)

If you don't like my opinions, fine disagree. If you do, you are the exception. I don't put it out there to win friends or make enemies. I just put it on the smorgasbord.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 06:40:55 AM
And pre-judging is bullshit.  And blind hatred while disregarding the facts is ignorance.

Judgement based on the facts as they are, not as you want them to be is rationality.

Blind devotion while disregarding the facts is stalking.   
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 06:51:24 AM

If you don't like my opinions, fine disagree. If you do, you are the exception. I don't put it out there to win friends or make enemies. I just put it on the smorgasbord.

Well put.

Some -- and you know who they are -- are in this to make friends and be liked.  Their so-called "opinion" is based on what they perceive will be the most popular position and their "judgement" such as it were is tainted by their craving to kiss ass and curry favor. 

I have no such compulsion.  This is a message board. In its best form you would all be anonymous vapor.  For the most part that's how I prefer to see you. Especially the ugly ones.

The relative anonymity is what theoretically allows people to express opinions they would never be willing to share in a more public setting.  Because of the genesis of this board a lot of that wall of privacy was breached.  That's both good and bad.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 08:35:10 AM
Some -- and you know who they are -- are in this to make friends and be liked.  Their so-called "opinion" is based on what they perceive will be the most popular position and their "judgment" such as it were is tainted by their craving to kiss ass and curry favor. 

Just because Greasy's opinion isn't of the friend making kind, doesn't make it more (or less) valid.  He is the opposite of the sunshine brigade, yet he uses the same flawed logic to form his opinion.  He has formed his opinion while grinding an axe, and he refuses to back away from it even when he's presented with a logical argument. 

The Prowler = GreasyWeasel. 

Why you choose to defend his flawed position while lambasting prowler is a mystery to me.  Maybe you like to even the odds.  Maybe he is a friend of yours. I don't know.  I just know that his opinion is formed in the same fashion as theirs.   
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 14, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Just because Greasy's opinion isn't of the friend making kind, doesn't make it more (or less) valid.  He is the opposite of the sunshine brigade, yet he uses the same flawed logic to form his opinion.  He has formed his opinion while grinding an axe, and he refuses to back away from it even when he's presented with a logical argument. 

The Prowler = GreasyWeasel. 

Why you choose to defend his flawed position while lambasting prowler is a mystery to me.  Maybe you like to even the odds.  Maybe he is a friend of yours. I don't know.  I just know that his opinion is formed in the same fashion as theirs.   

*starts slow clap*
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 09:23:22 AM

The Prowler = GreasyWeasel.

Why you choose to defend his flawed position while lambasting prowler is a mystery to me.  Maybe you like to even the odds.  Maybe he is a friend of yours. I don't know.  I just know that his opinion is formed in the same fashion as theirs.  

ABSOLUTELY agree.  100%.

I'm not defending GW's position so much as I am defending his right to express it without the attack dogs -- and they're not really dogs, more like teacup chihuahuas -- coming out and barking their heads off at him.  

So long as Prowler and his ilk (and you know who his ilk is) are allowed (and in some cases celebrated for)  their irrational, illogical, asinine ramblings then GW shouldn't be derided for the same.  There's your double standard, Token.  

Prowler IS Greasyweasel.  He may be even worse.  When the two are treated equally, I won't have to attempt to provide the counter balance.  

For the record, I don't know GW at all.  I find his explosive rants to be somewhat amusing, particularly in terms of the riots they inevitably incite.  He knows what he's doing.  Dance puppets, dance.  
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 09:24:44 AM
*starts slow clap*

Please see above.  You're clearly missing the mark here.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 14, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
Who the phuk left you in charge of everyone's personal time?  Prowler works his 40(probably more), and pays his taxes.  Who the phuk are you to decide what he should or should not do in his spare time?  He wants to spend 5 hours a day on the internet looking up football related poop?  It's none of your phuking business.  He, wants to be a freak and sell it on the weekend?  You guess it. None of your phuking business.

Kaos spends more time than he should defending your preposterous opinions.  Because you are exactly like "them".  If they don't share your "Chizik is da devil and everything is ruined" attitude, they aren't on Auburn's side?  Just because you are on the opposite side of the spectrum doesn't make your opinion more valid than theirs.

So shut the phuk up, you thick-headed, vacuous, bitch.

Couldnt have said it any better. It still doenst mean I like you.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 14, 2010, 09:30:41 AM
Please see above.  You're clearly missing the mark here.

I think people treat them the same, both with a grain of salt...

I look at GW's "opinion" as just as much being bullshit as a look at Prowlers "skreets". I agree with you though. Not as many jump on Prowler.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 09:35:07 AM
ABSOLUTELY agree.  100%.

I'm not defending GW's position so much as I am defending his right to express it without the attack dogs -- and they're not really dogs, more like teacup chihuahuas -- coming out and barking their heads off at him.  

So long as Prowler and his ilk (and you know who his ilk is) are allowed (and in some cases celebrated for)  their irrational, illogical, asinine ramblings then GW shouldn't be derided for the same.  There's your double standard, Token.  

Prowler IS Greasyweasel.  He may be even worse.  When the two are treated equally, I won't have to attempt to provide the counter balance.  

For the record, I don't know GW at all.  I find his explosive rants to be somewhat amusing, particularly in terms of the riots they inevitably incite.  He knows what he's doing.  Dance puppets, dance.  

Then we agree.  The whole lot of them are assholes with flawed opinions.

Quote
He knows what he's doing.  Dance puppets, dance.

 :rimshot:
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 09:37:13 AM
Not as many jump on Prowler.

I do. 

And, ironically, I think this is the first time I've ever responded to any of Greasy's bullshit. 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 14, 2010, 10:06:10 AM
While Prowler may have his faults, he is a world apart from the vaccuous broken record of the same moronic and completely simply incorrect nonsense Greasey spews.

He could at the very least recognize a football in a lineup.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on January 14, 2010, 10:26:56 AM
I'm not defending GW's position so much as I am defending his right to express it without the attack dogs  

:doh:
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: War Eagle!!! on January 14, 2010, 10:28:14 AM
While Prowler may have his faults, he is a world apart from the vaccuous broken record of the same moronic and completely simply incorrect nonsense Greasey spews.

He could at the very least recognize a football in a lineup.

I think Kaos was pointing out the similarities though...and there are quite a few.

GW blindly follows "I personally hate Chizik" and is relentless to everyone that he is right.

Prowler blindly follows his "skreets" and is relentless to everyone that he is right.

It's the same thing on opposite sides...
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Thrilla on January 14, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
Who the fuck left you in charge of everyone's personal time?  Prowler works his 40(probably more), and pays his taxes.  Who the fuck are you to decide what he should or should not do in his spare time?  He wants to spend 5 hours a day on the internet looking up football related shit?  It's none of your fucking business.  He, wants to be a freak and sell it on the weekend?  You guess it. None of your fucking business.

Kaos spends more time than he should defending your preposterous opinions.  Because you are exactly like "them".  If they don't share your "Chizik is da devil and everything is ruined" attitude, they aren't on Auburn's side?  Just because you are on the opposite side of the spectrum doesn't make your opinion more valid than theirs.

So shut the fuck up, you thick-headed, vacuous, bitch.




I think we all are missing what's really the main idea here:  Token really misses the R&B Supergroup Salt-n-Pepa.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 14, 2010, 12:30:11 PM
I think Kaos was pointing out the similarities though...and there are quite a few.

GW blindly follows "I personally hate Chizik" and is relentless to everyone that he is right.

Prowler blindly follows his "skreets" and is relentless to everyone that he is right.

It's the same thing on opposite sides...
I guess...

But regardless of the source of his information, at least Prowler is contributing to conversations on the board, rather than brainlessly parroting out "Chizik is a fucking idiot and will burn Auburn to the ground!!!11 If u don't see that u'r not a true Auburn person!!!!!!eleven"
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 12:34:32 PM
I guess...

But regardless of the source of his information, at least Prowler is contributing to conversations on the board, rather than brainlessly parroting out "Chizik is a fucking idiot and will burn Auburn to the ground!!!11 If u don't see that u'r not a true Auburn person!!!!!!eleven"

Sancho-zad?  That you?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 14, 2010, 12:39:22 PM
I guess...

But regardless of the source of his information, at least Prowler is contributing to conversations on the board, rather than brainlessly parroting out "Chizik is a fucking idiot and will burn Auburn to the ground!!!11 If u don't see that u'r not a true Auburn person!!!!!!eleven"

I don't play the "Auburn Man/Auburn Woman" card because I find that very cheap.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 12:52:45 PM
I get the idea that the two types of opinions often come from the same type of flawed logic.   Hence the Prowler / GW comparison.

But I have to say....the Weasel is not the opposite of anyone on here.  He stands alone in the fact that he typically carries NO logic in his arguments.  

Kaos, maybe you and I watch a game, and afterwords, I can say "wow, we really ran the ball well today...when was the last time Auburn ran for 275 yards and threw for 225?".  And you could watch the same game and legitimately say "wow, that was ugly....we won 38 to 35, but we gave up 527 yards to that team?  If the defense isn't fixed soon we're doomed".

Both things could and are likely to be completely true.  We could even agree with each others statements.

Weasel, on the other hand, would likely say something about how Auburn is doomed to go up in flames and soon to be the Vanderbilt of the SEC as long as "phukboy" stays in charge.  The difference is this....he would say that even if he didn't watch the game or see a single thing Chizik did or didn't do!

You and I are gathering our opinions as we go.  I'm seeing mostly encouraging things from the day he was hired (assembling his staff) through to this first full recruiting class (a very strong one).  It's not all perfect.  I want to see a better defense (scheme, technique, etc).  But to me, I expect to see an improvement as more talent and depth enter the picture.  Some one else may see this years defense and imagine that it won't get better.  At that point, we just differ on our future expectations.  No big deal.  No one is hating and no one is sunshine pumping.

Again, this is NOT how GW functions.  He doesn't take in new information, analyze it with some bit of integrity, and then make adjustments to his opinion.  With where he started on his opinion, he should be the most encouraged person here....because the reality so far has exceeded his expectations by the widest of margins.  Maybe I though we'd win 7 games this year.  Well we won 8, I'm a little encouraged.  Maybe someone else thought we'd win 9, so they are slightly let down.  

Well this guy thought we'd go 2-10....so shouldn't he be elated to see we were 6 games better than expected?  He thought recruiting would go into the dark ages and set us back a decade.  We're likely to have a top 5 or top 7 class this year.  Shouldn't he be ecstatic to learn we're so much better at recruiting than he anticipated?

But, see, we're back to my point. He doesn't function this way.  He is in a vacuum.  He may as well leave all this behind and just continue his hate in a basement with no windows and no electricity....because no new information form the outside world is going to change anything in his broken record-player head.

You may think Prowler or others are stuck in eternal positive mode....but it just isn't at all the same thing.  They at least look for positive in reality.  Greasey doesn't even have the ability to see reality.  

Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 01:03:05 PM
I think we all are missing what's really the main idea here:  Token really misses the R&B Supergroup Salt-n-Pepa.

I like to push it.  Real good.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUChizad on January 14, 2010, 01:08:18 PM
I get the idea that the two types of opinions often come from the same type of flawed logic.   Hence the Prowler / GW comparison.

But I have to say....the Weasel is not the opposite of anyone on here.  He stands alone in the fact that he typically carries NO logic in his arguments.  

Kaos, maybe you and I watch a game, and afterwords, I can say "wow, we really ran the ball well today...when was the last time Auburn ran for 275 yards and threw for 225?".  And you could watch the same game and legitimately say "wow, that was ugly....we won 38 to 35, but we gave up 527 yards to that team?  If the defense isn't fixed soon we're doomed".

Both things could and are likely to be completely true.  We could even agree with each others statements.

Weasel, on the other hand, would likely say something about how Auburn is doomed to go up in flames and soon to be the Vanderbilt of the SEC as long as "phukboy" stays in charge.  The difference is this....he would say that even if he didn't watch the game or see a single thing Chizik did or didn't do!

You and I are gathering our opinions as we go.  I'm seeing mostly encouraging things from the day he was hired (assembling his staff) through to this first full recruiting class (a very strong one).  It's not all perfect.  I want to see a better defense (scheme, technique, etc).  But to me, I expect to see an improvement as more talent and depth enter the picture.  Some one else may see this years defense and imagine that it won't get better.  At that point, we just differ on our future expectations.  No big deal.  No one is hating and no one is sunshine pumping.

Again, this is NOT how GW functions.  He doesn't take in new information, analyze it with some bit of integrity, and then make adjustments to his opinion.  With where he started on his opinion, he should be the most encouraged person here....because the reality so far has exceeded his expectations by the widest of margins.  Maybe I though we'd win 7 games this year.  Well we won 8, I'm a little encouraged.  Maybe someone else thought we'd win 9, so they are slightly let down.  

Well this guy thought we'd go 2-10....so shouldn't he be elated to see we were 6 games better than expected?  He thought recruiting would go into the dark ages and set us back a decade.  We're likely to have a top 5 or top 7 class this year.  Shouldn't he be ecstatic to learn we're so much better at recruiting than he anticipated?

But, see, we're back to my point. He doesn't function this way.  He is in a vacuum.  He may as well leave all this behind and just continue his hate in a basement with no windows and no electricity....because no new information form the outside world is going to change anything in his broken record-player head.

You may think Prowler or others are stuck in eternal positive mode....but it just isn't at all the same thing.  They at least look for positive in reality.  Greasey doesn't even have the ability to see reality.  


^^^Triple This.^^^
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
I get the idea that the two types of opinions often come from the same type of flawed logic.   Hence the Prowler / GW comparison.

But I have to say....the Weasel is not the opposite of anyone on here.  He stands alone in the fact that he typically carries NO logic in his arguments.  

Kaos, maybe you and I watch a game, and afterwords, I can say "wow, we really ran the ball well today...when was the last time Auburn ran for 275 yards and threw for 225?".  And you could watch the same game and legitimately say "wow, that was ugly....we won 38 to 35, but we gave up 527 yards to that team?  If the defense isn't fixed soon we're doomed".

Both things could and are likely to be completely true.  We could even agree with each others statements.

Weasel, on the other hand, would likely say something about how Auburn is doomed to go up in flames and soon to be the Vanderbilt of the SEC as long as "phukboy" stays in charge.  The difference is this....he would say that even if he didn't watch the game or see a single thing Chizik did or didn't do!

You and I are gathering our opinions as we go.  I'm seeing mostly encouraging things from the day he was hired (assembling his staff) through to this first full recruiting class (a very strong one).  It's not all perfect.  I want to see a better defense (scheme, technique, etc).  But to me, I expect to see an improvement as more talent and depth enter the picture.  Some one else may see this years defense and imagine that it won't get better.  At that point, we just differ on our future expectations.  No big deal.  No one is hating and no one is sunshine pumping.

Again, this is NOT how GW functions.  He doesn't take in new information, analyze it with some bit of integrity, and then make adjustments to his opinion.  With where he started on his opinion, he should be the most encouraged person here....because the reality so far has exceeded his expectations by the widest of margins.  Maybe I though we'd win 7 games this year.  Well we won 8, I'm a little encouraged.  Maybe someone else thought we'd win 9, so they are slightly let down.  

Well this guy thought we'd go 2-10....so shouldn't he be elated to see we were 6 games better than expected?  He thought recruiting would go into the dark ages and set us back a decade.  We're likely to have a top 5 or top 7 class this year.  Shouldn't he be ecstatic to learn we're so much better at recruiting than he anticipated?

But, see, we're back to my point. He doesn't function this way.  He is in a vacuum.  He may as well leave all this behind and just continue his hate in a basement with no windows and no electricity....because no new information form the outside world is going to change anything in his broken record-player head.

You may think Prowler or others are stuck in eternal positive mode....but it just isn't at all the same thing.  They at least look for positive in reality.  Greasey doesn't even have the ability to see reality.  



BS.  Prowler displays the same process of taking in facts as Greasy does.  Example..... Prowler's skreets tell him that Jerrell Harris is transferring to UNA.  I tell him that Jerrell states different.  He disregards the possibility that I may have better information than he does, and continues on with the Jerrell's gone crusade.  I then go a step further and tell him that I have first hand knowledge from Jerrell.  Does Prowler consider that, just maybe, his info is incorrect??  Hell no, Jerrell's gone. 

Days later (literally) Scab publishes an article with direct quotes from Jerrell saying that he has no plans to transfer.  Prowler's response??  Well, it appears he'll stay with the team through the spring....but we'll see after that.

He sees facts and completely refuses to back off of his "skreet cred" position.  Yeah, yeah.  I know.  "He knows what he's doing.  Dance puppets, dance."   :taunt:

I challenge you to find one shining example of Prowler changing his position when confronted with information that is opposite of his beliefs (skreets).   Until you can do so.....

The Prowler = Greaseyweasel
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
One more thing....I should remind everyone that the Weasel has made it clear that his hatred for Chizik is not even football related....which really makes this whole discussion pointless.

It's not even football related....so why the hell are we even discussing his "opinion" on the football team (quality of play, wins/losses, or recruiting).  His opinion doesn't stem from those things anyway.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 01:50:30 PM
BS.  Prowler displays the same process of taking in facts as Greasy does.  Example..... Prowler's skreets tell him that Jerrell Harris is transferring to UNA.  I tell him that Jerrell states different.  He disregards the possibility that I may have better information than he does, and continues on with the Jerrell's gone crusade.  I then go a step further and tell him that I have first hand knowledge from Jerrell.  Does Prowler consider that, just maybe, his info is incorrect??  Hell no, Jerrell's gone. 

Days later (literally) Scab publishes an article with direct quotes from Jerrell saying that he has no plans to transfer.  Prowler's response??  Well, it appears he'll stay with the team through the spring....but we'll see after that.

He sees facts and completely refuses to back off of his "skreet cred" position.  Yeah, yeah.  I know.  "He knows what he's doing.  Dance puppets, dance."   :taunt:

I challenge you to find one shining example of Prowler changing his position when confronted with information that is opposite of his beliefs (skreets).   Until you can do so.....

The Prowler = Greaseyweasel

It just isn't the same. I'm not saying Prowler doesn't put too much faith in his "skreets" or anything like that.  It's a "his word against mine" thing with him....meaning, even if Scarbo publishes something that says Jerrell is staying, Prowler will assume that what he heard from his source was the truth, and now Jerrell has changed his mind and is publicly saying something different than what was going on behind the scenes.

And really, these are two different arguments...the argument of Prowler and his skreets isn't the same as the one about evaluation of how things are going for the program.  Even Prowler isn't going to argue that the defense didn't give up a lot of yards and points this year.  He may have excuses as to why he's not concerned about it for future seasons....but he's not going to deny the facts of the stats, regardless of cause.

Weasel, however, treats 8-5 exactly the same way he would treat 2-10....and it's because his "opinion" actually has nothing to do with what the team has actually done anyway.  He wasn't actually pissed about possibly going 2-10 to begin with, so that's why 8-5 doesn't make him feel any better.

Maybe Prowler wrote before the season that defense would carry us this year.  I'd be willing to bet that now, after the year, he would say "okay, turns out that was wrong".  Even if he had all kinds of excuses and reasons and spins, he would still acknowledge the reality that defense did not carry us.

Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
 :suicide:

Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AWK on January 14, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
I don't play the "Auburn Man/Auburn Woman" card because I find that very cheap.
Agree and childish.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 14, 2010, 01:52:57 PM
Agree and childish.

Thanks. How the hell has this thread made it to 7 pages?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 14, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
You know, the bright side of this whole thread is that the conversations have stayed in line with the title.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 01:55:34 PM
What he does't like the color of his eyes? Met him at the DMV and he was impatient? What then?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 14, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
What he does't like the color of his eyes? Met him at the DMV and he was impatient? What then?

Your gonna have to explain yourself.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 02:02:29 PM
RE: GW's problem with Chiz not football related as ja stated.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 02:02:52 PM
What he does't like the color of his eyes? Met him at the DMV and he was impatient? What then?
I'm on Lortab 7.5 and Soma right now, and my shit is still making sense. Whats your excuse?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 02:04:21 PM
It just isn't the same. I'm not saying Prowler doesn't put too much faith in his "skreets" or anything like that.  It's a "his word against mine" thing with him....meaning, even if Scarbo publishes something that says Jerrell is staying, Prowler will assume that what he heard from his source was the truth, and now Jerrell has changed his mind and is publicly saying something different than what was going on behind the scenes.

And really, these are two different arguments...the argument of Prowler and his skreets isn't the same as the one about evaluation of how things are going for the program.  Even Prowler isn't going to argue that the defense didn't give up a lot of yards and points this year.  He may have excuses as to why he's not concerned about it for future seasons....but he's not going to deny the facts of the stats, regardless of cause.

Weasel, however, treats 8-5 exactly the same way he would treat 2-10....and it's because his "opinion" actually has nothing to do with what the team has actually done anyway.  He wasn't actually pissed about possibly going 2-10 to begin with, so that's why 8-5 doesn't make him feel any better.

Maybe Prowler wrote before the season that defense would carry us this year.  I'd be willing to bet that now, after the year, he would say "okay, turns out that was wrong".  Even if he had all kinds of excuses and reasons and spins, he would still acknowledge the reality that defense did not carry us.



It's not the argument(s) in question.  It's the foundation the argument(s) are built upon, that I'm comparing.  And it's on spot.  I see a lot of "I'm willing to bet" and "even ifs" but no examples.  Because they don't exist.  Both already have their minds made up on the abilities of Chizik.  One is complete failure, and one is complete success.  No facts presented will change those opinions, because neither are willing to be wrong.  

You know, the bright side of this whole thread is that the conversations have stayed in line with the title.

I attempted to derail with a salt-n-pepa lyric, but apparently you phukers hate 90's girl power.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2010, 02:07:30 PM
I'm on Lortab 7.5 and Soma right now, and my shit is still making sense. Whats your excuse?
Puberty is a bitch...don't worry you will be 15 soon enough.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
RE: GW's problem with Chiz not football related as ja stated.

I'm on the dennis end of the Prowler -Weasel skreet scruggle. Lortab and Somma bad4u. This is boring me anyway.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
Puberty is a bitch...don't worry you will be 15 soon enough.

I ate some pills I found on a kid the other day.  They fucked me up sumthin fierce.  I'm back going to see if I can catch him skateboarding in the road again.  And I'm going to take his hacky sack this time.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 02:14:44 PM
Camera phone that he stole too?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 02:15:22 PM
Puberty is a bitch...don't worry you will be 15 soon enough.
I'm going to start snorting it and drinking Crown if this shit doesn't start working. Fucked up a disc in my back between L5 and S1 and this shit isn't even touching it. And I'm one of those people who gets totally numb from a Lortab 2.5.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 02:23:04 PM
Demerol,SP?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 14, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
I attempted to derail with a salt-n-pepa lyric, but apparently you phukers hate 90's girl power.
Can't you hear the music's pumpin' hard like I wish you would?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 02:26:30 PM
Demerol,SP?
Yeah, I'd be fine with a horse tranquilizer at this point. I've had a pulled muscle here and there, but nothing like this. I can't imagine what folks with chronic major back problems feel.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2010, 02:29:23 PM
Yeah, I'd be fine with a horse tranquilizer at this point. I've had a pulled muscle here and there, but nothing like this. I can't imagine what folks with chronic major back problems feel.
We all told you to quit that ditch digging job.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 02:30:25 PM
Negative and miserable!
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 02:31:10 PM
We all told you to quit that ditch digging job.

Wait.  I thought it was sacking groceries? 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 14, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Wait.  I thought it was sacking groceries? 
2 jobs..
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 02:42:42 PM
2 jobs..
If you're not counting my job on Saturday nights.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
If you're not counting my job on Saturday nights.

Well, if you're having back problems, that is most likely the culprit.  

****NSFW****
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1701810296 (http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1701810296)
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2010, 02:51:29 PM
Well, if you're having back problems, that is most likely the culprit.  

****NSFW****
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1701810296 (http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1701810296)
You shouldn't post video of RWS's wife.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 02:52:26 PM
I even if Scarbo publishes something that says Jerrell is staying, Prowler will assume that what he heard from his source was the truth,

(http://instrengths.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/frustrated-man.jpg)

He HAS no sources
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 14, 2010, 02:53:04 PM

I attempted to derail with a salt-n-pepa lyric, but apparently you phukers hate 90's girl power.
I'm really more of a JJ Fad fan anyway.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
I like to push it.  Real good.

I remember when I was a kid and me and my brother were listening to that song...in walks my mom, tells us to turn off that bullshit song.  Our jaws dropped, as this was the first time I had heard my mom cuss.

We were looking at her like "what the hell?"...she thought that's what they were saying....not "push it", but "bull shit".   We still laugh at that.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
I'm going to start snorting it and drinking Crown if this shit doesn't start working. Fucked up a disc in my back between L5 and S1 and this shit isn't even touching it. And I'm one of those people who gets totally numb from a Lortab 2.5.

Chiropractor will fix that shit.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
Chiropractor will fix that shit.
Waiting to hear when to go for my MRI before any of that gets decided. I've never been to a chiropractor, but my wife swears by it. She has some moderate back issues from time to time due to some wrecks she has been in. She says that even if you don't really have back issues, you can tell a night and day difference if you go in for an adjustment.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jadennis on January 14, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
Chiropractor will fix that poop.  anything and everything....for $2500.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 14, 2010, 03:17:49 PM
Anybody else hear that zoom?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
Chiropractor will fix that poop.

can cure cancer and diabetes too!
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Jumbo on January 14, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
Waiting to hear when to go for my MRI before any of that gets decided. I've never been to a chiropractor, but my wife swears by it. She has some moderate back issues from time to time due to some wrecks she has been in. She says that even if you don't really have back issues, you can tell a night and day difference if you go in for an adjustment.
My Orthopedic Surgeon said chiropractors are witch doctors. Go the physical therapy route, it's helped me with my 3 buldging disks issues.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 03:19:36 PM
can cure cancer and diabetes too!

Don't forget the gout.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 03:20:08 PM
My Orthopedic Surgeon said chiropractors are witch doctors. Go the physical therapy route, it's helped me with my 3 buldging disks issues.

When I need help with my bulging dick, the first place I go isn't to a surgeon. 
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Token on January 14, 2010, 03:21:51 PM
Anybody else hear that zoom?

I heard something, but I just figured it was the rice krispies I'm eating.  
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: wesfau2 on January 14, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
Don't forget the gout.

Now you've got my attention.  Fucking metabolic arthritis.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Mr. Sensible on January 14, 2010, 03:22:29 PM
When I need help with my bulging dick, the first place I go isn't to a surgeon. 

JLH will help you with that and you dance with her "disco ball."

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/81438422.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/81438422.html)

(http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Jennifer-Love-Hewitt.jpg)
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: jmar on January 14, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
When I need help with my bulging tool, the first place I go isn't to a surgeon. 

sock drawer?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: djsimp on January 14, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
Anybody else hear that zoom?

Are you taking Loritabs too?
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 03:29:08 PM
sock drawer?

close.  Tube8.com is a quick fix.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: wesfau2 on January 14, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
Are you taking Loritabs too?

The chiro jokes clearly sailed over RWS's head.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Tiger Wench on January 14, 2010, 03:32:15 PM
I'm going to start snorting it and drinking Crown if this shit doesn't start working. Fucked up a disc in my back between L5 and S1 and this shit isn't even touching it. And I'm one of those people who gets totally numb from a Lortab 2.5.
There's a doc here in Houston that will help you manage your pain with some great stuff called Propofol.  He is even currently unemployed right now - bet you could get an appointment really quickly...
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2010, 03:48:01 PM
The chiro jokes clearly sailed over RWS's head.

I know.  As with many things I made myself laugh.  Whether anyone else did or not is unimportant.  I have pleased myself with my cleverness. If you are not similarly pleased, I can only infer that you are not clever.  That's how that works.
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 14, 2010, 03:59:49 PM
I know.  As with many things I made myself laugh.  Whether anyone else did or not is unimportant.  I have pleased myself with my cleverness. If you are not similarly pleased, I can only infer that you are not clever.  That's how that works.

You like me...you really like me!
Title: Re: Why The Negativity?
Post by: RWS on January 14, 2010, 04:03:13 PM
I wish I were clever!