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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on December 22, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
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My wife and I got a puppy a few days ago. We've been talking about getting one for months. She's a beautiful, playful three month old Foxhound mix.
The problem? I just realized I don't want responsibility a dog in the house.
It's been three days since we got her. What should I do?
*My wife's never had a pet before.*
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Try and give her back to where you got her from and if she is adopted from the shelter, just take her back there. Even if you didn't get her from the pound, take her to an animal shelter now. Go ahead and do it now though. The animal shelters will find a good home for her.
Another option would be that you can act like her "foster parents" until you find someone that will take her. GO to www.petfinder.com (http://www.petfinder.com) and there is an on-line community where people want to adopt pets from "foster parents". That is what I would suggest since you already have her in your home to begin with.
It doesn't get any better if you really don't want her. If you can't take the time to treat her like she needs to be treated, find her a good home.
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Shovel to the head will usually do the trick. Especially at such a young age.
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I had a few moments of buyer's remorse after rescuing Brew....I was used to going where ever, whenever...and suddenly I had to think about something other than myself. It's a complete household change and you have to give it a little time. Christmas is a hectic time to try and train a new puppy...things will settle down after you have some time to focus on her. Once she's housebroken and aware of the boundries in the house it will be a totally different story. I think she'll add a lot to your life...and she'll add another dimension with you and your wife. Our dog actually completes our little family.
Just be patient...she knows you are her person already...but you are still getting to know each other.
And I don't think you are a responsibility shirker, THS.
If it doesn't work out...we have a few selfless puppy rescuers on this site.
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Give it time. We have 3 inside dogs. They're family.
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I had a few moments of buyer's remorse after rescuing Brew....I was used to going where ever, whenever...and suddenly I had to think about something other than myself. It's a complete household change and you have to give it a little time. Christmas is a hectic time to try and train a new puppy...things will settle down after you have some time to focus on her. Once she's housebroken and aware of the boundries in the house it will be a totally different story. I think she'll add a lot to your life...and she'll add another dimension with you and your wife. Our dog actually completes our little family.
Just be patient...she knows you are her person already...but you are still getting to know each other.
And I don't think you are a responsibility shirker, THS.
If it doesn't work out...we have a few selfless puppy rescuers on this site.
This helped a lot.
The wife finished up Christmas shopping today, so I was left alone with the pup for five hours. I spent about three of those five hours dealing with poo/pee in the house and absolutely no going outside of the house. I think that stimulated the frustration....
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This helped a lot.
The wife finished up Christmas shopping today, so I was left alone with the pup for five hours. I spent about three of those five hours dealing with poo/pee in the house and absolutely no going outside of the house. I think that stimulated the frustration....
Just be glad you didn't have to clean up after Jumbo.
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Shovel to the head will usually do the trick. Especially at such a young age.
The microwave is always an option, but make the popcorn first.
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This helped a lot.
The wife finished up Christmas shopping today, so I was left alone with the pup for five hours. I spent about three of those five hours dealing with poo/pee in the house and absolutely no going outside of the house. I think that stimulated the frustration....
SCHEDULE...a puppy is like having a child, they need structure. THS biggest advice I can give for potty training. #1 get a crate (if you don't have one) it needs to be a crate that can be adjusted as the dog gets bigger, but that a partition can be used to keep a smaller space for the pup. MOST dogs will not wet or poo where they sleep hence you want to keep the area of the crate somewhat small. When you go out or go to bed put her in the crate, never use the crate as punishment...it should be her home.
#2 Get her on a schedule, most dogs will shit right after they eat...they have the digestive system of a duck. So, as soon as you feed the dog take her out maybe 5 minutes after shes done. Also do NOT let her graze on the food, put the food down and let her eat it if she doesn't eat it after 15 minutes pick it up...she doesn't get fed until dinner time. At dinner same thing, you need to get her on a schedule!
#3 Peeing is a wee (pun intended) bit harder. A good rule of thumb is that a dog can normally only hold their bladder for the number of months they are +1. So if the dog is 2 months old chances are she can only hold it about 3 hrs. What I use to do is set a timer and basically take the dog out every 60 minutes...tell her go potty and then praise her when she does.
#4 Try to take her out the same door, and when you do take her paw and scratch it on the door. Then take her out and follow rule #3. Like I said dogs are a creature of habit, mine will scratch now when she needs to go out.
#5 Praise...Praise...Praise
#6 PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#7 When a dog pees or shits in the house...it is your fault. You need to keep an eye on her, there are usually sign when a dog is about to go (see excessive sniffing or the dog circle). They cannot open the doors themselves and they can't talk..you have to be diligent...but don't worry they will get it and so will you.
Buyers remorse happens with everyone. Dogs are a big responsibility, but they are also great fun, hell I spent last night wrapping a damn gift for my Sadie last night. I love that damn dog.
Finally, Jumbo needs to see her immediately!
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When a dog pees or shits in my house, it is their fault and I beat them with a rubber hose for said transgression.
We once had a dog that stayed inside. If she felt offended or slighted in any way she would find somebody's shoe and take a shit in it. So if you had to restrict her to a certain area because you were cleaning or whatever, her sensibilities would be offended and as soon as you weren't actively staring at her? Shit in a shoe.
My dogs stay outside now.
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What Godfather said...All of it.
Crate training is by far the best thing you can do for your puppy, and yourself. It will help teach the puppy how to communicate with you and it will keep you from having to clean multiple messes in every room in your house. We also used the puppy pads to help with the peeing, but they only worked as well as we let them. You still have to keep a watchful eye on them and let them know they need to do it outside too.
I have been where you obviously were as you typed this, and I know just how frustrating it can be. Keep up the good fight, and before long you will be amazed at how you ever made it this long without a dog.
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GF and Buzz have the right of it.
Just keep in mind that she desperately wants to please you.... be patient until she learns how.
K, I can't even begin to address the shitting in a shoe issues.
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GF and Buzz have the right of it.
Just keep in mind that she desperately wants to please you.... be patient until she learns how.
K, I can't even begin to address the shitting in a shoe issues.
His dog hates Chizik too.
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His dog hates Chizik too.
I bet Chizik would shit in his shoe.
Just keep in mind that she desperately wants to please you.... be patient until she learns how.
This is why dogs are better than women.
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This is why dogs are better than women.
Yeah but then you gotta clean the rest of the peanut butter off your dick.
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Yeah but then you gotta clean the rest of the peanut butter off your dick.
Well it's ok. Cause it's your dog.
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Well it's ok. Cause it's your dog.
no no...we got it.
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the godfadder offers some excellent advice about crate training...scheduling...and etc. if you plan on traveling with her purchase a traveling crate rather than a wire crate.
i don't agree about teaching her to scratch the door, especially if you have wooden doors. as she becomes trained for outside business...she should come to you and you'll begin to recognize "open the fucking" door look.
also, don't use...i repeat...don't use...potty pads inside.
if you don't want to spend much time learning and reading about obedience training, i would suggest looking around for a class or two. the skirt and you should both attend. a well behave dog is a respected dog.
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i don't agree about teaching her to scratch the door, especially if you have wooden doors. as she becomes trained for outside business...she should come to you and you'll begin to recognize "open the fucking" door look.
This is true our door is a french door without the mullions so she just scratches the glass which doesn't do anything. I have heard of people using a bell. Basic premise take a small bell and attach it to the frame, when you go to take the puppy out take her paw and hit the bell. Then immediately take her out, she will start ringing it when she needs to go.
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18 posts in and no Old Yeller reference? Color me disappointed.
When we bought our second dog (Baxter), I wanted to give him back for a solid week. He cried, howled and barked non-stop when you left him. Pissed and shit all over the house. We worked through it (through my own personal house-breaking methods) now he's part of the family.
Stick with it. You'll be glad you did.
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Bunch of candy asses.
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oh...i forgot.
if you give the dog back after three days, don't have kids...they take 10 x as long to potty train...cry at night for the boob for months and break furniture for years.
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oh...i forgot.
if you give the dog back after three days, don't have kids...they take 10 x as long to potty train...cry at night for the boob for months and break furniture for years.
And, if you hit them in the face with a shovel, someone is going to find out.
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oh...i forgot.
if you give the dog back after three days, don't have kids...they take 10 x as long to potty train...cry at night for the boob for months and break furniture for years.
Ha. Yeah this was part of my freak out.
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18 posts in and no Old Yeller reference? Color me disappointed.
When we bought our second dog (Baxter), I wanted to give him back for a solid week. He cried, howled and barked non-stop when you left him. Pissed and shit all over the house. We worked through it (through my own personal house-breaking methods) now he's part of the family.
Stick with it. You'll be glad you did.
You know how you get a dog to do what you want?.....
You BEAT it!
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What Godfather said...All of it.
This isn't the same place that I remember...
Yeah but then you gotta clean the rest of the peanut butter off your tool.
Yeah, it is...
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This is true our door is a french door without the mullions so she just scratches the glass which doesn't do anything. I have heard of people using a bell. Basic premise take a small bell and attach it to the frame, when you go to take the puppy out take her paw and hit the bell. Then immediately take her out, she will start ringing it when she needs to go.
The first post was spot on.
The bell trick is what we did with Oscar. Sally already came to us being house broke, but of course had to mark her territory when she moved in with us. We don't even use the bell now. They will go the door and either whimper or bark. I wouldn't suggest this, but we have some good luck apparently. We let ours out in the AM before I leave for work and leave them to run free in the house all day. They don't chew on anything, they don't get into anything they aren't supposed to. The few times they have ever peed or pooped was when we left for work at 7 and didn't get home until midnight or later. Luckily enough they did there business on a piece of scrap carpet that I got from a neighbor. The pretty much have the run of the house and sleep when we are not there. Once we are home, they are wide open until about 10:30. Get her on a schedule and trained and you will love having a dog.
hell I spent last night wrapping a damn gift for my Sadie last night. I love that damn dog.
Glad to see the wife and me aren't the only ones that are bat shit crazy. She has even bought stockings for ours.
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This is why dogs are better than women.
this puts a whole different spin on those ugly women you claim to prefer. You're trying to get the best of both worlds.
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this puts a whole different spin on those ugly women you claim to prefer. You're trying to get the best of both worlds.
The force is strong in this one.
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this puts a whole different spin on those ugly women you claim to prefer. You're trying to get the best of both worlds.
negative ghost rider.
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negative ghost rider.
Just throwing a theory out there, chief. The pattern IS full. ;)
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Just throwing a theory out there, chief. The pattern IS full. ;)
I hope to one day be the man my dog thinks I am now.
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Demon dog?
Next issue -
Whenever we place the puppy behind a dog gate (in a small area of the same room we're in), she throws a psychotic temper tantrum. I'm talking flailing against the gate and wall. Biting the plastic wires of the gate. Yelping, barking, crying, etc.
I've tried just ignoring her until it stops, but it goes on for 30 minutes at a time. Any ideas how to quell her freak out?
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Demon dog?
Next issue -
Whenever we place the puppy behind a dog gate (in a small area of the same room we're in), she throws a psychotic temper tantrum. I'm talking flailing against the gate and wall. Biting the plastic wires of the gate. Yelping, barking, crying, etc.
I've tried just ignoring her until it stops, but it goes on for 30 minutes at a time. Any ideas how to quell her freak out?
I think that is a waiting game. If she knows she will get you if she acts like that, she's got you...
Buy a crate....then put her in a sound proof room till she gets used to it...
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To add to this, my dog knows I don't let her out or tolerate her barking when she is in her crate at night, so she doesn't do it anymore. She used to, but after about 3 nights of no sleep, she has been good ever since. The first night was torture. The second night was a little less painful. And the third night it was only a wimper or two. From there on out, she knew that going in her cage was bedtime, or that we were going somewhere. When I am out of town though, she throws a fit because one of the kids will go and get her from her cage. It happens about every time...If she knows you will come get her, she will continue to do it and everytime you let her out, it will be worse the next time you try.
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Any ideas how to quell her freak out?
Taser...
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I think that is a waiting game. If she knows she will get you if she acts like that, she's got you...
Buy a crate....then put her in a sound proof room till she gets used to it...
We've got a crate. She does great in it when she's tired. Even if she sleeps for a few hours and wakes up, she'll just chew a bone or hang out in the crate until we let her out.
But what just happened was something I've never seen. The dog lost it. I just watched a video on training dogs to deal with separation anxiety. We'll try a few of the tips.
Essentially, the video said to place the dog in an area (like the gated area of our den) and spending a few minutes. Make sure the dog is calm, give it a command like "I'll be back soon" and walk away. If it goes nuts, walk back to it, don't pet it, and allow it to calm back down. Each time, spend a little longer away from the dog before returning. If it can always get back to being calm, it should get to the point where the dog won't freak out as much or any at all.
I'm sure I'll be back to report what happens and report any new oddities in my life.
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Whenever we place the puppy behind a dog gate (in a small area of the same room we're in), she throws a psychotic temper tantrum.
why do you feel the need to isolate her within the same room you are in?
dogs are pack animals...they want to be with the pack. give her options such as a dog bed near the couch.
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why do you feel the need to isolate her within the same room you are in?
dogs are pack animals...they want to be with the pack. give her options such as a dog bed near the couch.
We were wrapping presents.
I guess we could have put her in the crate in the other room. Also, the $30 dog bed we bought? It's her pee-station.
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Taser...
Bullshit. Those taser cartridges are almost $30.00 a piece.
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Next episode - Dog has giardia.
Oh yeah, she gave it to me too.
And no, Jumbo. It wasn't from fisting her.
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Next episode - Dog has giardia.
Oh yeah, she gave it to me too.
And no, Jumbo. It wasn't from fisting her.
Strange. Haven't you only had the pup less than a week?
The gestation period for giardiasis is usually a minimum of a week and usually longer.
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Strange. Haven't you only had the pup less than a week?
The gestation period for giardiasis is usually a minimum of a week and usually longer.
Yeah. I'm not too happy about this. The humane society said she shouldn't get giardia. What does she have? Giardia.
No one is answering at the humane society so far. I'm going to demand that they pay for the medicine, but I'm not holding my breath.
My mother is trying to tell me that I don't have it. I've had the three main symptoms the last two days, but she thinks it's stress. We'll see, I guess.
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Yeah. I'm not too happy about this. The humane society said she shouldn't get giardia. What does she have? Giardia.
No one is answering at the humane society so far. I'm going to demand that they pay for the medicine, but I'm not holding my breath.
My mother is trying to tell me that I don't have it. I've had the three main symptoms the last two days, but she thinks it's stress. We'll see, I guess.
THS, the laws of karma suggest this is going to be the best dog EVER.....
The Humane Society should take care of the whole thing. I'm sorry you two are both sick....but Merry Christmas anyway.
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Just an update after a bad vet visit -
Holly is great. Tons of fun. Learning to sit and stay. All is well.
The vet visit?
Expensive. Our vet pulled a fast one over us. A week ago she received a puppy check up, and she had everything cleaned and checked. Everything was fine. We scheduled a visit for today to get her last vaccine shots and take one last giardia test.
After the doctor was an hour late, we finally finished up. I took Holly to go pee and my wife pays. My wife storms to the car, and as we're driving down the road, she says, "it was $200."
Why was it so expensive, you ask?
Well, when the vet took the puppy to be weighed, she swiped her ear. She came out and told us that our dog has yeast in her ear. Not a big deal. Just use some cleaning drops once a day. She then demonstrated how to use the cleaning drops. The price of this?
The q-tip that found the yeast? $40
The demonstration of cleaning drops? $20
The cleaning drops (the same bottle she used to clean the dog's ear)? $35
That's $75 fucking dollars for something I didn't ask for. My fault for not stopping her and asking her the price, but she came out ready to screw me over. She tested the dog's ear in the back room where I couldn't see. She walked in and while explaining the yeast, she drops some ear drops in her ear. BOOM. $60.
The greatest part? When I called back a few minutes later? The automated message was turned on. They were closed.
I really hope it doesn't snow too early tomorrow. They will be getting a serious ass chewing in the morning.
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Just an update after a bad vet visit -
Holly is great. Tons of fun. Learning to sit and stay. All is well.
The vet visit?
Expensive. Our vet pulled a fast one over us. A week ago she received a puppy check up, and she had everything cleaned and checked. Everything was fine. We scheduled a visit for today to get her last vaccine shots and take one last giardia test.
After the doctor was an hour late, we finally finished up. I took Holly to go pee and my wife pays. My wife storms to the car, and as we're driving down the road, she says, "it was $200."
Why was it so expensive, you ask?
Well, when the vet took the puppy to be weighed, she swiped her ear. She came out and told us that our dog has yeast in her ear. Not a big deal. Just use some cleaning drops once a day. She then demonstrated how to use the cleaning drops. The price of this?
The q-tip that found the yeast? $40
The demonstration of cleaning drops? $20
The cleaning drops (the same bottle she used to clean the dog's ear)? $35
That's $75 phuking dollars for something I didn't ask for. My fault for not stopping her and asking her the price, but she came out ready to screw me over. She tested the dog's ear in the back room where I couldn't see. She walked in and while explaining the yeast, she drops some ear drops in her ear. BOOM. $60.
The greatest part? When I called back a few minutes later? The automated message was turned on. They were closed.
I really hope it doesn't snow too early tomorrow. They will be getting a serious ass chewing in the morning.
I's change vets period. Where do you live?
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Just an update after a bad vet visit -
Holly is great. Tons of fun. Learning to sit and stay. All is well.
The vet visit?
Expensive. Our vet pulled a fast one over us. A week ago she received a puppy check up, and she had everything cleaned and checked. Everything was fine. We scheduled a visit for today to get her last vaccine shots and take one last giardia test.
After the doctor was an hour late, we finally finished up. I took Holly to go pee and my wife pays. My wife storms to the car, and as we're driving down the road, she says, "it was $200."
Why was it so expensive, you ask?
Well, when the vet took the puppy to be weighed, she swiped her ear. She came out and told us that our dog has yeast in her ear. Not a big deal. Just use some cleaning drops once a day. She then demonstrated how to use the cleaning drops. The price of this?
The q-tip that found the yeast? $40
The demonstration of cleaning drops? $20
The cleaning drops (the same bottle she used to clean the dog's ear)? $35
That's $75 phuking dollars for something I didn't ask for. My fault for not stopping her and asking her the price, but she came out ready to screw me over. She tested the dog's ear in the back room where I couldn't see. She walked in and while explaining the yeast, she drops some ear drops in her ear. BOOM. $60.
The greatest part? When I called back a few minutes later? The automated message was turned on. They were closed.
I really hope it doesn't snow too early tomorrow. They will be getting a serious ass chewing in the morning.
I'm certain in your line of business, you understand some of the things that can happen when you chew someone's ass. Vets are normally pretty good about asking for a place of employment, so make sure you don't say anything that might get you called in front of the man.
It happens.
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I's change vets period. Where do you live?
Alabaster.
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Alabaster.
I don't know anyone up there, sorry. Down here we have a vet named Dr. Quentin Meadows who is absolutely the best. He is a Tuskegee Institute grad and is amazing in his ability to diagnose without the use of too many tests which is great on the wallet. He just has that gift and what's so bed is the man has Leukemia and doesn't have that long left. He is the best vet in the Mobile area, he donates his time to the city animal shelter providing vet services to animals that would normally receive lesser care. I know this doesn't help you much, but I'll try to call him day after tomorrow and see if he knows someone up there. I'll call others too.
In the mean time, I would call the local animal shelter and tell them your story, without mentioning names, and see who they recommend. Good luck with everything involving that baby.
PS - I use w a website name http://www.doineedavet.com (http://www.doineedavet.com) just to see if I need a vet every time I have animal problems.
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I spoke with the main doctor this morning. He gave us a $40 credit. Props to him, I guess.
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I spoke with the main doctor this morning. He gave us a $40 credit. Props to him, I guess.
It is important to take care of that, although $60 seems way steep. Look at it this way now you only paid $20 that seems reasonable. Again....dogs and kids = expensive. It is a good precursor for you and the wife.
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Again....dogs and kids = expensive. It is a good precursor for you and the wife.
agreed. but worth every fucking penny...well except at 2 in the morning and there is a "montner" outside.
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agreed. but worth every fucking penny...well except at 2 in the morning and there is a "montner" outside.
That made me :)
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...well except at 2 in the morning and there is a "montner" outside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOa7sLXv_bY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOa7sLXv_bY#)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOa7sLXv_bY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOa7sLXv_bY#)
"You plottin on me boy?"
Love that movie.
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I spoke with the main doctor this morning. He gave us a $40 credit. Props to him, I guess.
That was about right. same thing happened to us. Our new cocker spaniel came straight form the store to our vet. While checking up, the asst used a qtip on the ear. He did show us and it was pretty black. I did think that test and the medicine was pricey, but we are trying to get some of that recouped from the pet store. Yeast (mites) in the ear can be a big problem for spaniels. So we washed the ear and used the meds and Beanie (I changed the name from Coco) is now good. Dogs are not cheap like they used to be. Used to be you got a dog, got a few shots and threw the scraps out the back door. Dog would still follow you to hell and back.Now its a raging business.
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I like Beanie. MUCH better than CoCo.
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I'm posting pictures of my dog....because this is a dog thread...and because I'm depressed and he makes me feel better. So....Brew.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/035.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/013.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/005.jpg)
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I'm posting pictures of my dog....because this is a dog thread...and because I'm depressed and he makes me feel better. So....Brew.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/035.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/013.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/pmichelle_lee/005.jpg)
That's a fine looking dog there. Congrats, Brother Sister.
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That's a fine looking dog there. Congrats, Brother.
Shes a sister.
Brew and Sadie need to meet, they would have some nice looking puppies.
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Shes a sister.
Brew and Sadie need to meet, they would have some nice looking puppies.
Thanks for correcting that.
And Brew happens to be very good on puppy play dates.
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Shes a sister.
Brew and Sadie need to meet, they would have some nice looking puppies.
Damn, do geeks ever give up on the "using dogs to pick up hot chicks" ploy? Obviously not.
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Damn, do geeks ever give up on the "using dogs to pick up hot chicks" ploy? Obviously not.
I don't know but my dog is 6 months old and horny as hell. He is starting to hump everything. So if any of you have a short little whorish female dog that needs a good one, let me know. We don't have to meet, just the dogs.
<please disregard the above post. My dog hijacked my computer>
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I don't know but my dog is 6 months old and horny as hell. He is starting to hump everything. So if any of you have a short little whorish female dog that needs a good one, let me know. We don't have to meet, just the dogs.
<please disregard the above post. My dog hijacked my computer>
Give your dog a large stuffed animal. Poor Boujean was neutered before we could bring him home from the animal shelter, at about 3 months of age. The first night he was home, he was compulsively humping literally anything and everything he could get his legs around. And he was whining and crying while he did it. My daughter had the stuffed dog from the book children's classic book Go Dog Go. Since she never played with it, I gave it to Boujean. And Go Dog Go he did - he humped that stuffed animal all night long and for weeks afterwards, and it has been his favorite toy ever since. The only one of his stuffed animals he has not disemboweled. I am sure it is because it was his first love.
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Give your dog a large stuffed animal. Poor Boujean was neutered before we could bring him home from the animal shelter, at about 3 months of age. The first night he was home, he was compulsively humping literally anything and everything he could get his legs around. And he was whining and crying while he did it. My daughter had the stuffed dog from the book children's classic book Go Dog Go. Since she never played with it, I gave it to Boujean. And Go Dog Go he did - he humped that stuffed animal all night long and for weeks afterwards, and it has been his favorite toy ever since. The only one of his stuffed animals he has not disemboweled. I am sure it is because it was his first love.
:rofl:
I never heard of a dog humping a stuffed animal until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMOHAXEpx2w# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMOHAXEpx2w#)
Do you think we could could get a stuffed Saban and have a dog hump it? We could include it in next year's Iron Bowl pregame videos, with the appropriate porn music of course. It would be a fitting example of what is coming in the 2010 Iron Bowl for the Bammers.
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:rofl:
I never heard of a dog humping a stuffed animal until now.
He did not just hump that stuffed dog. He made sweet love to poor old Go Dog Go, Chef style...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPv1tclfCkU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPv1tclfCkU#)