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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AUChizad on May 20, 2009, 11:03:24 AM
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Is this a chink in the armor? We all know Slimebomb's M.O. of hoisting a coach up (especially the bammer ones) and getting his minions to worship the guy, so that one day when things go south he can 180 on them and start his defamation campaign.
It appears to me that a seed of this started once the TigerProwl started becoming a national success. Oh, believe me, he was ridiculing the fuck out of it the first day it broke. But as it started garnering attention and being lauded by the national media, he changed his tune.
Looks like the boulder has budged and is in the early stages of rolling.
Fans blindly support Saban, Meyer
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
That is one of the most famous quotes in the history of global politics, uttered by Lord Acton in 1887 in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton.
Which brings us to Urban Meyer and Nick Saban.
These are the two best coaches in the SEC, perhaps the entire nation. Collectively, they own three of the last six BCS titles.
Nobody would accuse Meyer or Saban of being warm and fuzzy, or even nice or pleasant. I've met both and you could catch a cold sitting next to either.
Recently, both have been in the news for comments made about support or lack of support. Saban ridiculously railed on the Tide Nation for not doing enough to help the team in the Sugar Bowl loss against Utah. Meyer went after former Gators quarterback Shane Matthews of Pascagoula, who now hosts a radio show.
"If you want to be critical of a player on our team or a coach on our team, you can buy a ticket for seat 37F," Meyer said. "You're not welcome back in the football office. You're either a Gator or you're not a Gator."
If one didn't know any better, you would have thought Matthews had accused Meyer of trying to steal his wife. All he did was comment on the Florida passing game last year while the team was struggling. And then he committed the unpardonable sin of picking Ole Miss to upset Florida last Sept. 27 at The Swamp.
Final score: Ole Miss 31, Florida 30.
Predictably, in both cases, the Florida and Alabama fans have stood steadfast behind their fearless leaders.
All of this led Michael Wilbon, the co-host of ESPN's "Pardon the Interruption," to say the other day about Meyer:
"Does this guy have a God complex or what? He ain't the only one. There are the other guys like, oh, Nick Saban, just to pick a guy. And they actually think they are the dictators in these nations. Gator Nation. Tide Nation. They want to tell you what to think. What time to go to the bathroom, whether you can sleep with your wife or have to stay with the team on the road. They want to dictate all terms of everything because that's what those guys can do in college football. Largely, how they got to be as successful as they are. And I hope Shane Matthews keeps bringing the heat."
Well, don't count on that. Matthews had his 15 minutes of fame and the former Florida quarterback, as well as any talk show host in markets like Gainesville or Tuscaloosa, knows if they dare go up against the new breed of college football strongmen, they will be broadcasting on ham radio soon instead of over the air.
Both Meyer and Saban did a nice job of double talk in the aftermath of their controversial statements, but it didn't change the message: Stay on board or get left behind.
From a practical level, one could say this is a perilous road college coaches and their fan bases are going down. In situations like this, there is virtually no room for dissent or even honest discussion, often leading to media members or even subordinates looking the other way. History has shown this can often lead to ruin.
But on the other hand, this is the new world order of college athletics. You go and hire the best, throw all the money in the world at the coach, give him absolute power and scramble to get out of the way.
That happened with Meyer. Ditto Saban.
Mike Bianchi, a sports columnist at the Orlando Sentinel, wrote recently about Meyer and his feelings toward the coach.
"Meyer is obviously a great coach, but he doesn't really cultivate relationships with fans or media. He's simply not very accessible or embraceable. I don't really know Urban Meyer. Does anybody?"
It's the same way here with Saban. I don't believe many members of the media who cover Saban really know him. I suspect the Crimson Tide fan base feels the same way. They are mesmerized by his rock star status. They are intimidated by his presence. But do they really like him?
All they know is he was hired to win and he has. The rest of it's a carnival act. Oh, Saban flies around the state, makes the same psychobabble speech about the process, shakes hands with fans while looking straight past them, and gets on the private plane and does it all over again. Whether it's Mobile or Muscle Shoals, Fort Payne or Foley, it's always the same.
Like Meyer, he makes a boatload of money and is expected to win. And, like Meyer, if he left tomorrow, fans would be unhappy and fretful because he is a winner and has made Alabama relevant again. But would they feel a personal loss?
That's college football. It's big business. It's also why the coaches have turned fans and media into pawns, herding them like a flock of sheep. It's great as long as things are going well. Yet don't forget what Lord Acton said about power and corruption.
It may have been uttered 112 years ago. But it's still just as prevailing and potent today.
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The difference in Meyer and Saban is that Meyer is actually the coach everyone thinks he is, and Saban is a fraud!
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I don't remember who it was, but someone once described Finebaum as the guy who waits until the parade has already started, then quickly beats his drum and runs to the front of the parade to make it appear as if he organized it. I would say that is spot on.
Get ready for the pooper scoopers to start following the elephants around now...the circus is officially in town.
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I don't remember who it was, but someone once described Finebaum as the guy who waits until the parade has already started, then quickly beats his drum and runs to the front of the parade to make it appear as if he organized it. I would say that is spot on.
Get ready for the pooper scoopers to start following the elephants around now...the circus is officially in town.
Most people don't understand Finebaum. Especially the ones that call him a bammer homer. He's a Finebaum homer, plain and simple. He's out to make ratings and money. He plays to the lowest common denominator in this state, and that's a big chunk of the bammer nation. He sets them up, knocks them down, entertains them with rants about Auburn, and yanks their chains when nothing is happening in the sports world. His show is the radio equal of the al.com bammer and Auburn forums. A bunch of morons empowered by being anonymous and/or untouchable that spew crap because they can get away with it. And you don't have to do anything original to get the bammers on your side...the formula is simple and one we all know..."don't let facts get in the way or cloud your thinking".
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It appears to me that a seed of this started once the TigerProwl started becoming a national success.
Since when did it become a national "success"? The Prowl visited Craig Sanders, and he has committed to Alabama. So far, I would say The Prowl is 0-1. Now, if by "success", you mean that they got some attention, then ok. But usually when I think something was successful, that means that a goal was accomplished from that action. There isn't much "success" in getting all that attention, but then nothing good coming out of it.
As far as Finebaum, you guys should know better than to read anything he writes.
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Since when did it become a national "success"? The Prowl visited Craig Sanders, and he has committed to Alabama. So far, I would say The Prowl is 0-1. Now, if by "success", you mean that they got some attention, then ok. But usually when I think something was successful, that means that a goal was accomplished from that action. There isn't much "success" in getting all that attention, but then nothing good coming out of it.
It's the stupid fucksticks like you that keep harping on "how many recruits committed" that show just how fucking hard it hit home. It was about publiciity for Auburn you stupid fuck, not a recruiting blitz to fill the class 9 months before signing day! And the fact that bammers are still using that same tired measuring stick tells me just how hard it hit home. NOBODY, and I mean NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY had any notions that the recruits would see the limos and run up and scream "I'm coming to Auburn". And I know you're not smart enough to understand it, because you keep on harping on it, but I'll say it again, the purpose was much broader than merely getting a commitment from any recruit. But you bammers keep beating that same drum.
Auburn fan to bammer: "That sunset is beautiful, and there's a reason God made it Orange and Blue!"
Bammer: "That's ridiculous! Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? That sunset is a brilliant burst of Crimson and White! Why, everyone can see that!"
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It's the stupid fucksticks like you that keep harping on "how many recruits committed" that show just how fucking hard it hit home. It was about publiciity for Auburn you stupid fuck, not a recruiting blitz to fill the class 9 months before signing day! And the fact that bammers are still using that same tired measuring stick tells me just how hard it hit home. NOBODY, and I mean NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY had any notions that the recruits would see the limos and run up and scream "I'm coming to Auburn". And I know you're not smart enough to understand it, because you keep on harping on it, but I'll say it again, the purpose was much broader than merely getting a commitment from any recruit. But you bammers keep beating that same drum.
Auburn fan to bammer: "That sunset is beautiful, and there's a reason God made it Orange and Blue!"
Bammer: "That's ridiculous! Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? That sunset is a brilliant burst of Crimson and White! Why, everyone can see that!"
You're missing the point entirely. What is the point in getting all of that attention if you do not wish to gain results from it? Do you REALLY believe that the Tiger Prowl wasn't meant to get an edge in recruiting? It was clearly an attempt to stick out in the minds of recruits, and have them think about AU and commit. Here are a few quotes from an AuburnSports.com interview of Curtis Luper on 05/01 regarding the Tiger Prowl:
"The Tiger Prowl was not the end, it's just the beginning," Luper said. "Whatever is cutting edge and new and will give us an edge in recruiting, that's what we're going to do.
"We've forsaken that in the state of Alabama because the state of Alabama is more important to us than anything. Nell Fortner won the SEC with five starters from the state of Alabama and we think that's a good blueprint to follow." Sidenote: Basing your football recruiting plan on what the women's basketball coach did: beyond humorous.
"When we got together as a staff and brainstormed, we tried to think how a 17- or 18-year old thinks. We have to be in touch with today's athlete," Luper said. "Collectively we decided to do it for an entire week in the state of Alabama just to show the emphasis Coach Chizik has put on the state."
Plus, some statements from folks here on this board
Bammers are squirming. Already making excuses for when they lose the in state recruiting battle...
BTW, if you have 10-20 Clients that you really, really want....You do everything, legally, that you can to get them. That's what Auburn is doing this week. The next three weeks, they'll split up and go Nation Wide.
Personally, I don't care for it. Maybe if it just wasn't publicized and given a corny name. Desperate? Anything but desperate. All indicators point to this staff kicking ass in recruiting already. As was talked about last week, the #1 and #2 RBs in the nation loving Teh Planes was not accomplished through limos and gimmicky names.
I like the concept of putting the all out blitzkreig on the local recruiting grounds. Just drop the gimmicks.
If they can land a top 5-10 recruiting class, I don't give a shit if they went out in orange and blue Yugos.
I would not care if they were riding around in a fucking tank nicknamed the "Big swingin' Dick mobile" as long as they land quality recruits.
What some people are missing is.....The Point. Most people are just looking at the Limo and saying..Tacky, Stupid, Retarded...etc. Auburn wanted to recruit the State, together. BTW, a Stretch Limo is going to get people's attention, especially one that has Auburn Stickers and Flags all over it, no matter what model it is. Not only is Auburn doing something inventive, it's actually extremely smart. You don't just have One Coach, that's a decent to great recruiter, going into the schools, you have SEVEN Coaches, that are really good to great recruiters going into the school and making a Splash when they arrive. When I was 18 yrs old, being recruited by a couple of Universities, if one of those Universities came to my HS in a Stretch with nearly their Entire Coaching Staff (read: Full Court Press), all wearing the same AU Orange button-up shirt (it shows up better when you look into the stands, while you're practicing), that would let me know that these coaches really want me and they're recruiting me harder than anyone else. Shitbammer, I wouldn't be too sure about that...these coaches are coming up with new ideas every week, it seems. So, a "Big Swingin' Dick Mobile", probably wouldn't be out of the question. I mean, you already have the Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile, so....that's a start. All you'd have to do is turn it into a Stretch Limo and paint the Weiner to look like a Dick....Wa La.
At one point, AUChizad pretty much blew a wad listing quotes of recruits saying how impressed they were by The Prowl to further try and prove his point that it was genius. So, was it still not a recruiting blitz on the state of Alabama? Curtis Luper seems to think it was. Thank God for Nell Fortner. Otherwise, Chizik and company would have nobody to use as a recruiting compass.
Dumas.
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You're missing the point entirely. What is the point in getting all of that attention if you do not wish to gain results from it? Do you REALLY believe that the Tiger Prowl wasn't meant to get an edge in recruiting? It was clearly an attempt to stick out in the minds of recruits, and have them think about AU and commit. Here are a few quotes from an AuburnSports.com interview of Curtis Luper on 05/01 regarding the Tiger Prowl:
So, was it still not a recruiting blitz on the state of Alabama? Curtis Luper seems to think it was. Thank God for Nell Fortner. Otherwise, Chizik and company would have nobody to use as a recruiting compass.
And you still don't get it.
Find one post from anyone that said this was about getting immediate results in mere weeks following it.
You can get laid tonight, and she will spit your baby out before national signing day.
That's a long time.
You yourself said "It was clearly an attempt to stick out in the minds of recruits, and have them think about AU and commit".
Agreed. Since when does that concern getting commitments 9 months prior to signing day?
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So, was it still not a recruiting blitz on the state of Alabama? Curtis Luper seems to think it was. Thank God for Nell Fortner. Otherwise, Chizik and company would have nobody to use as a recruiting compass.
1) I think it remains to be seen how successful of a tool it is/was.
2) I actually thought the Fortner reference was a pretty good one in context. She came in four years ago and hemmed up the state talent in high school women's bb when there was no reason for ANYONE of those young ladies to give a second thought about coming to AU.
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Agreed. Since when does that concern getting commitments 9 months prior to signing day?
Ah, so the plan all along is to have them wait as long as possible before committing. I would think you would want some blue-chippers to commit early to gain momentum with your class. Maybe not. The ultimate goal, whether by tomorrow, or 9 months from now, was to gain commitments. So far in that process, AU is 0-1. While signing day is a long time from now, the goal is to ultimately gain recruits from it. So far, AU has not been successful in that aspect.
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Ah, so the plan all along is to have them wait as long as possible before committing. I would think you would want some blue-chippers to commit early to gain momentum with your class. Maybe not. The ultimate goal, whether by tomorrow, or 9 months from now, was to gain commitments. So far in that process, AU is 0-1. While signing day is a long time from now, the goal is to ultimately gain recruits from it. So far, AU has not been successful in that aspect.
The ultimate goal of the sun is to set tonight around 8:00pm. So far, it has not been successful in that aspect.
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The ultimate goal of the sun is to set tonight around 8:00pm. So far, it has not been successful in that aspect.
Millions of years of history sets a precedent that the sun will set today. Weak comparison.
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The goal was to get back in these high schools, establish a presence again in neglected recruiting areas and let the State know this staff is serious about recruiting. All indications are they made a great impression both locally and nationally. If a top prospect, Bama lock or not, has visited your campus twice, and you don't take the time to pull up at his school, you need to be fired. The fact that he verbaled to Bama means they probably got a good one. The fact that AU worked on the kid means we're not conceeding shit in this State or anywhere else.
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The difference in Meyer and Saban is that Meyer is actually the coach everyone thinks he is, and Saban is a fraud!
That is, without a doubt, one of the more moronic things I have ever read. You sir, are as dumb as a bag of dicks.
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That is, without a doubt, one of the more moronic things I have ever read. You sir, are as dumb as a bag of dicks.
A bag of dicks? A bag of dicks?
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A bag of dicks? A bag of dicks?
I wondered about it as well but just figured I was too old to get all those new sayings.
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That is, without a doubt, one of the more moronic things I have ever read. You sir, are as dumb as a bag of dicks.
He hasn't brought any hardware to bammer yet (outside of one crootin, and one SEC WEST champeenship).
He lucked into a half-championship he shared with USC (remember USC talking about a three-peat in 05?)
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He hasn't brought any hardware to bammer yet (outside of one crootin, and one SEC WEST champeenship).
He lucked into a half-championship he shared with USC (remember USC talking about a three-peat in 05?)
Your coach lucked into 5 wins in the Big 12, but he's a God according to you. Uh-oh, I questioned Chizik's deity status. I guess this means you're going to have to take his penis out of your mouth to tell me how wrong I am. Should you really be casting stones?
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That is, without a doubt, one of the more moronic things I have ever read. You sir, are as dumb as a bag of dicks.
If two heads are smarter than one, a bagfull ought to be like a Norman Einstein.
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You're missing the point entirely. What is the point in getting all of that attention if you do not wish to gain results from it? Do you REALLY believe that the Tiger Prowl wasn't meant to get an edge in recruiting? It was clearly an attempt to stick out in the minds of recruits, and have them think about AU and commit.
No I'm not missing shit. You're the one that just can't get through his thick fucking skull and in to that pile of shit you call a brain that national signing day is 9 months away, and the results, whatever they are, are yet to be known. An "edge in recruiting"? Good PR for the school and new staff? Not an edge at all. But you fucking idiots keep trying to convince us that since no commits have been made to Auburn since then, that it's a complete failure. At worst, at the very worst, it did ZERO harm, none, nada, zilch! At best it showed recruits Auburn was back out on the road working and paying attention to the kids in state. And to not believe that. to not fucking even acknowledge it, you have to completely ignore all that was said by the kids, and their coaches. Facts never seem to get in the way with you fucking morons! You keep on spewing your obnoxiously stupid bullshit here, but it will be better received on by your dumbass bammer buddies elsewhere. The fact that it's been almost a month and you dumbfucks are still talking about it and still trying to convince us it didn't work is proof positive it did!
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No I'm not missing shit. You're the one that just can't get through his thick fucking skull and in to that pile of shit you call a brain that national signing day is 9 months away, and the results, whatever they are, are yet to be known. An "edge in recruiting"? Good PR for the school and new staff? Not an edge at all. But you fucking idiots keep trying to convince us that since no commits have been made to Auburn since then, that it's a complete failure. At worst, at the very worst, it did ZERO harm, none, nada, zilch! At best it showed recruits Auburn was back out on the road working and paying attention to the kids in state. And to not believe that. to not fucking even acknowledge it, you have to completely ignore all that was said by the kids, and their coaches. Facts never seem to get in the way with you fucking morons! You keep on spewing your obnoxiously stupid bullshit here, but it will be better received on by your dumbass bammer buddies elsewhere. The fact that it's been almost a month and you dumbfucks are still talking about it and still trying to convince us it didn't work is proof positive it did!
Again, my point is, so far it has not worked. Craig Sanders is just one of those kids that spoke very highly of the Tiger Prowl, for example. If you would unwad your panties for two seconds and actually read what I say, you would understand my point. UP TO THIS POINT, I think it is premature to call the Tiger Prowl a "national success" relative to its ultimate goal of landing commitments. In 9 months if you land every guy that the Prowl targeted, with the exception of Sanders, or a majority of them, or a handful, thats one thing. I would call that fairly successful relative to its goal. However, at this point, I don't see how it is successful relative to its goal of having recruits commit. NSD may be 9 months away, but we have verbal commits from ½ our signing class right now. Also, when you talk about us still talking about it being proof positive that it got AU some attention? Yeah, it got you some attention with Alabama fans. But just realize, we weren't laughing with you, we were laughing at you. :thumbsup:
So far, the Tiger Prowl has not accomplished its main goal of commitments. For that matter, one of its' targets has said "Thanks, but no thanks." to AU after speaking very highly of The Prowl. Nobody knows what might happen the next 9 months, though.
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I think it's reasonable to assume that recruits are taking a wait and see approach to Auburn right now. I can't say that I'd blame them. It's premature to say that the limo was a failure.
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I think it's reasonable to assume that recruits are taking a wait and see approach to Auburn right now. I can't say that I'd blame them. It's premature to say that the limo was a failure.
I agree, its reasonable to believe that alot of kids will see how the season plays out and see what Chizik's coaching style, etc is. I agree that its premature to say its a total failure, but I would also say its premature to say it is a "national success" as well.
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I agree, its reasonable to believe that alot of kids will see how the season plays out and see what Chizik's coaching style, etc is. I agree that its premature to say its a total failure, but I would also say its premature to say it is a "national success" as well.
So, saying it's a failure is okay...just not a total failure? Gotcha.
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Again, my point is, so far it has not worked. Craig Sanders is just one of those kids that spoke very highly of the Tiger Prowl, for example. If you would unwad your panties for two seconds and actually read what I say, you would understand my point. UP TO THIS POINT, I think it is premature to call the Tiger Prowl a "national success" relative to its ultimate goal of landing commitments. In 9 months if you land every guy that the Prowl targeted, with the exception of Sanders, or a majority of them, or a handful, thats one thing. I would call that fairly successful relative to its goal. However, at this point, I don't see how it is successful relative to its goal of having recruits commit. NSD may be 9 months away, but we have verbal commits from ½ our signing class right now. Also, when you talk about us still talking about it being proof positive that it got AU some attention? Yeah, it got you some attention with Alabama fans. But just realize, we weren't laughing with you, we were laughing at you. :thumbsup:
So far, the Tiger Prowl has not accomplished its main goal of commitments. For that matter, one of its' targets has said "Thanks, but no thanks." to AU after speaking very highly of The Prowl. Nobody knows what might happen the next 9 months, though.
"The ultimate goal of landing recruits" is what you say the goal was. The goal was, to create a stir. Get noticed. Was landing recruits part of that goal? Absolutely! Did any Auburn people expect the class would immediately fill up, or it would be considered a failure? No, that's for you bammers. I can read "up to this point" too. Can you read, signing day is 9 months away? The only way this could have been called a failure at any point is if recruits, their coaches, or parents had announced they thought is was stupid, and that it turned them off. Find me one that said that. And I mean one of the target audience, not some bammer, or some media hack. Find me a quote from a kid being recruited that was negative. (Not landing a particular recruit that saw the limo doesn't count) And quit playing little interweb games: "get your panties out of a wad"...grow up!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U29PL9Dy5o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U29PL9Dy5o)
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"The ultimate goal of landing recruits" is what you say the goal was. The goal was, to create a stir. Get noticed. Was laning recruits part of that goal? Absolutely! Did any Auburn people expect the class would immediately fill up, or it would be considered a failure? No, that's for you bammers. I can read "up to this point" too. Can you read, signing day is 9 months away? The only way this could have been called a failure at any point is if recruits, their coaches, or parents had announced they thought is was stupid, and that it turned them off. Find me one that said that. And I mean one of the target audience, not some bammer, or some media hack. Find me a quote from a kid being recruited that was negative. (Not landing a particular recruit that saw the limo doesn't count) And quit playing little interweb games: "get your panties out of a wad"...grow up!
If you check the quotes by Curtis Luper that I posted in a previous post, its pretty obvious that the purpose is to eventually land recruits. Ultimately, what they THINK doesn't matter. Its what they DO that counts. What I'm trying to explain to you is if you guys have 10 kids that it targeted, and all 10 of those kids were highly impressed and thought it was genius, but all 10 of those kids decided to go elsewhere to pursue a college career, what does it matter? Lately it seems that AU fans have been getting themselves pumped up that "Oh, this guy is highly rated and he visited us, but went somewhere else. Still, that means we're doing better in recruiting." You guys have basically become content with going home and jerking off over a chick that you think is cute, instead of banging the prom queen.
I could be a high school kid and run around naked with a whip cream hat on my head right in front of the prom queen to get her to like me. She may talk about how brave that is to run around naked in front of everybody, and how big my dick is. But at the end of the day, it doesn't mean she's guaranteed to go on a date with me.
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You guys have basically become content with going home and jerking off over a really cute chick the prom queen, instead of banging the prom queen a chick that is really cute.
Fixed that for you. If you are going to make fun of us, at least do it in the right context...
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Ultimately, what they THINK doesn't matter. Its what they DO that counts. What I'm trying to explain to you is if you guys have 10 kids that it targeted, and all 10 of those kids were highly impressed and thought it was genius, but all 10 of those kids decided to go elsewhere to pursue a college career, what does it matter? Lately it seems that AU fans have been getting themselves pumped up that "Oh, this guy is highly rated and he visited us, but went somewhere else. Still, that means we're doing better in recruiting." You guys have basically become content with going home and jerking off over a chick that you think is cute, instead of banging the prom queen.
I could be a high school kid and run around naked with a whip cream hat on my head right in front of the prom queen to get her to like me. She may talk about how brave that is to run around naked in front of everybody, and how big my dick is. But at the end of the day, it doesn't mean she's guaranteed to go on a date with me.
I'm sorry, you're right, it was a complete failure. You've convinced me completely. I have no idea what I was thinking. Your work here is done! You can go with the confidence that you've made a difference in the world today.
Motherfucker you idiots just never quit trying to force the rest of the world to see it your way, and your way only! And you put whatever arbitrary parameters that make it work for you on whatever bullshit you're spewing. Saban has the whole lot of you convince he's the only recruiter worth a shit in college football, and that everybody else just needs to give up. Bammer's complete, unmitigated, unmatched, misplaced, and unwarranted arrogance knows no bounds!
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I'm sorry, you're right, it was a complete failure. You've convinced me completely. I have no idea what I was thinking. Your work here is done! You can go with the confidence that you've made a difference in the world today.
Motherfucker you idiots just never quit trying to force the rest of the world to see it your way, and your way only! And you put whatever arbitrary parameters that make it work for you on whatever bullshit you're spewing. Saban has the whole lot of you convince he's the only recruiter worth a shit in college football, and that everybody else just needs to give up. Bammer's complete, unmitigated, unmatched, misplaced, and unwarranted arrogance knows no bounds!
Go home, take one Tekturna, and call me in the morning.
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Go home, take one Tekturna, and call me in the morning.
When you can't defend your postion with fact, resort to internet childishness. I'm surprised you didn't hit me with a straight up: "Seems I struck a nerve" bullshit. Or maybe the ultimatly lame: "you need to lay off the caffine". Contrary to popular internet lore, I don't have to be the slightest bit aggrevated to tell you to "GET FUCKED". I can do it without spilling drop of my freshly poured to the brim, icy cold Sapphire Martini.
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When you can't defend your postion with fact, resort to internet childishness. I'm surprised you didn't hit me with a straight up: "Seems I struck a nerve" bullshit. Or maybe the ultimatly lame: "you need to lay off the caffine". Contrary to popular internet lore, I don't have to be the slightest bit aggrevated to tell you to "GET FUCKED". I can do it without spilling drop of my freshly poured to the brim, icy cold Sapphire Martini.
I'm perfectly capable of defending my position with fact, as I have been doing. You're just choosing to view it through your Orange and Blue glasses and changing what I say into what is best for you to flame. Learn the meaning of the phrases "so far", "up to this point", "at this point", and actually read what I am posting and then use a little judgement. I swear, you only pluck one or two sentences out and flame upon that instead of reading the whole thing.
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When you can't defend your postion with fact, resort to internet childishness. I'm surprised you didn't hit me with a straight up: "Seems I struck a nerve" bullshit. Or maybe the ultimatly lame: "you need to lay off the caffine". Contrary to popular internet lore, I don't have to be the slightest bit aggrevated to tell you to "GET FUCKED". I can do it without spilling drop of my freshly poured to the brim, icy cold Sapphire Martini.
Okay, just a sidebar here. Never talk smack while sipping a martini. Especially a Sapphire martini. Lie and say beer or bourbon or shots of tequila or something. It's just that the GET FUCKED kind of loses it's punch when you admit to sipping a martini. MMkay?
Carry on!!
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You guys have basically become content with going home and jerking off over a chick that you think is cute, instead of banging the prom queen.
See: Mike Shula stalking Tim Tebow.
I remember the conversations well. "The very fact that Tebow would CONSIDER Alabama is clear evidence of Shula's recruiting ability and shows that Bama is staying in the game on a national scale. The fact that Tebow considered UA, beats the shit out of the fact that Auburn actually signed some guys, you stupid FUCKS.."
So, young feller, which is it?
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See: Mike Shula stalking Tim Tebow.
I remember the conversations well. "The very fact that Tebow would CONSIDER Alabama is clear evidence of Shula's recruiting ability and shows that Bama is staying in the game on a national scale. The fact that Tebow considered UA, beats the shit out of the fact that Auburn actually signed some guys, you stupid FUCKS.."
So, young feller, which is it?
I never was much big on the whole recruiting thing when Tebow was recruited, so I'm not going to make excuses for what other people said. However, hypothetically speaking, if the same thing happened now, I still feel the same as I have previously posted. It doesn't make a shit to me how close we came or didn't come to signing Tebow. The fact is he just won his second national championship, and it wasn't for Alabama. At this point it doesn't matter if he thought Alabama was the best thing since sliced bread, and its where he always dreamed of playing. What he actually did is what matters. Do I wish we would have signed him? You bet your sweet ass. We didn't, so how close we were is irrelevant.
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Okay, just a sidebar here. Never talk smack while sipping a martini. Especially a Sapphire martini. Lie and say beer or bourbon or shots of tequila or something. It's just that the GET FUCKED kind of loses it's punch when you admit to sipping a martini. MMkay?
Carry on!!
I was picturing him doing the pinky thing as I replied. Totally kills the intimidation factor.
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I was picturing him doing the pinky thing as I replied. Totally kills the intimidation factor.
I was going with Charles Winchester III from M.A.S.H.
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I was going with Charles Winchester III from M.A.S.H.
Ah, nice.
I'm a Crown & Coke man myself. Martinis are disgusting. Its amazing what you will try Crown with when you are beyond shitfaced and you are out of Coke or Sprite. Mountain Dew, Cherry 7-UP, Barq's, etc. Crown and Barq's is especially interesting.
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I can do it without spilling drop of my freshly poured to the brim, icy cold Sapphire Martini.
fag
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I never was much big on the whole recruiting thing when Tebow was recruited, so I'm not going to make excuses for what other people said. However, hypothetically speaking, if the same thing happened now, I still feel the same as I have previously posted. It doesn't make a shit to me how close we came or didn't come to signing Tebow. The fact is he just won his second national championship, and it wasn't for Alabama. At this point it doesn't matter if he thought Alabama was the best thing since sliced bread, and its where he always dreamed of playing. What he actually did is what matters. Do I wish we would have signed him? You bet your sweet ass. We didn't, so how close we were is irrelevant.
You don't understand the difference between the collective "you" and the specific individual "you"??
You're here ascribing attitudes and concepts to the entire Auburn fanbase based on the muddled arguments of a couple of fringe participants. That would be the same as saying the entire Auburn fanbase wants Chizik and Jacobs tied together at the nutsack and thrown into the lake just because one person has that idea.
Your view of the Tebow circus CERTAINLY doesn't represent the mainstream Bama fan. Nor does your characterization of a few extremist views fit that of the majority of us.
You're arguing with the most extreme, which is a failed exercise from the start.
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You don't understand the difference between the collective "you" and the specific individual "you"??
You're here ascribing attitudes and concepts to the entire Auburn fanbase based on the muddled arguments of a couple of fringe participants. That would be the same as saying the entire Auburn fanbase wants Chizik and Jacobs tied together at the nutsack and thrown into the lake just because one person has that idea.
Your view of the Tebow circus CERTAINLY doesn't represent the mainstream Bama fan. Nor does your characterization of a few extremist views fit that of the majority of us.
You're arguing with the most extreme, which is a failed exercise from the start.
Perhaps my point would be better served by being more specific and saying that a majority of Auburn fans that I have seen post on message boards have bought into the "almost" way of thinking. I have seen those that share the same view that I do, but the majority of what I have seen posted on different boards embraces this ideology. I do understand that even though it may be the majority of what I see on message boards, it also doesn't represent the whole AU fanbase. It is simply what I have witnessed. Even though it was worded as such, it wasn't my intention to generalize the whole fanbase.
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Ah, nice.
I'm a Crown & Coke man myself. Martinis are disgusting. Its amazing what you will try Crown with when you are beyond shitfaced and you are out of Coke or Sprite. Mountain Dew, Cherry 7-UP, Barq's, etc. Crown and Barq's is especially interesting.
Maker's Mark, 1792, Woodford Reserve with 2 ice cubes, anything else ruins the drink, just pour Kentucky Gentleman if your going to kill the taste with coke!
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Perhaps my point would be better served by being more specific and saying that a majority of Auburn fans that I have seen post on message boards have bought into the "almost" way of thinking. I have seen those that share the same view that I do, but the majority of what I have seen posted on different boards embraces this ideology. I do understand that even though it may be the majority of what I see on message boards, it also doesn't represent the whole AU fanbase. It is simply what I have witnessed. Even though it was worded as such, it wasn't my intention to generalize the whole fanbase.
And.....
You are the only Bama fan I have ever seen who was not enamored by the "Tebow almost picked US!!!" mancrushing. And as you only offer this viewpoint in retrospect, I must therefore assume that every single Bama fan in the entire universe behaved in exactly the same manner as you now claim Auburn fans are doing.
So, again I ask you. Why is this alleged behavior now such a travesty when every single one of your kind was fully involved in such acts not so long ago?
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Maker's Mark, 1792, Woodford Reserve with 2 ice cubes, anything else ruins the drink, just pour Kentucky Gentleman if your going to kill the taste with coke!
This man knows.
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So, again I ask you. Why is this alleged behavior now such a travesty when every single one of your kind was fully involved in such acts not so long ago?
Because....
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This Tebow talk reminded me of an encounter with a local Bama fan who shall remain nameless. Oh hell, his name is Virgil and he's been a bouncer at a local dive for years. Well, Virgil is your stereotypical sidewalk fan. Never been to Tuscaloosa but wears the colors every day and never stops talking Tahd football. I would see him every afternoon at Gold's Gym and without fail, Virgil would come up with a wry smile, no matter what time of year it was and try to rib me about something or other Auburn or Alabama related.
"Sooo...whatchu thank the Tahd's gonna' do to Ole Miss...?"
When the whole Tebow circus got rolling in high speed, that was the daily topic. "When we sign ole Tebow, they ain't gonna' be no stoppin' the Tahd. He's already a lock cause Bama's got all the tradishun and championships. He wants to play for a winner." It was a daily grind. I was pulling up in the parking lot listening to the radio when Tebow was making his historic announcement to the Gaytors. The first thing that came to mind was.."Where's Virgil?"
I walked inside and spotted him and another Bama buddy across the room. I calmly walked up and said, "Well, looks like ole Timmy T decided Gainesville is the place for him. Just announced". I'm going to give everyone 3 guesses what the immediate response was. Now the first two guesses don't count. Okay..GO
Have you got it? Yep, that's right.
"Awww...we didn't really need him anyway. We got 5 quarterbacks on campus right now that could start for anybody in the nation. He'd just be in the mix. Probably a wasted skollership. Good luck at Florida gettin' yer ass kicked by the Tahd..."
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Your coach lucked into 5 wins in the Big 12, but he's a God according to you. Uh-oh, I questioned Chizik's deity status. I guess this means you're going to have to take his penis out of your mouth to tell me how wrong I am. Should you really be casting stones?
Whoa whoa whoa, I'm a little behind in this thread, but hold the phone.
Link to where I said Gene Chizik is a God? Or Prowler or anyone else for that matter? That is a licensed bammer trademark. I know it's hard for you to understand that every school doesn't treat every coach like Xerces, but the internal debate with Auburn fans has been whether he is a complete piece of shit or someone who is doing a fine job so far with the cards he's dealt. NO ONE is deifying the man. No one is even suggesting he is great by any definition at this point.
To bammers, Bahr Brahnt created the heavens and earth in one day. Skip to the seventh day where he created football. Every coach since then has been painted next to a shadowy Bahr leaning up against the goal post as if to approve. All nine. That's of course, because each one is said to be the prophet. Bahr incarnate. Bahr's soul lives and breathes through the present coach. The second coming. Then somehow every darn one is proven to be a false prophet. The tale is yet to be told on this one. Could this time really for real, no take-backs be the chosen one?
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm159/masonleesmith/1724legacy.jpg)
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Maker's Mark, 1792, Woodford Reserve with 2 ice cubes, anything else ruins the drink, just pour Kentucky Gentleman if your going to kill the taste with coke!
I have a hiatal hernia and if I drink any liquor straight it fucks my stomach up something fierce. I've mainly had to switch to Sprite with my Crown because the caffeine in Coke makes my stomach hurt if I drink way too much.
Some fucker told me one time that Canadian Mist was the closest you would find to the taste of Crown at a fraction of the cost. Nasty. Shit. Maker's Mark is pretty good stuff, though. For some reason I don't find much difference between Crown and Jack.
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Whoa whoa whoa, I'm a little behind in this thread, but hold the phone.
Link to where I said Gene Chizik is a God? Or Prowler or anyone else for that matter? That is a licensed bammer trademark. I know it's hard for you to understand that every school doesn't treat every coach like Xerces, but the internal debate with Auburn fans has been whether he is a complete piece of shit or someone who is doing a fine job so far with the cards he's dealt. NO ONE is deifying the man. No one is even suggesting he is great by any definition at this point.
To bammers, Bahr Brahnt created the heavens and earth in one day. Skip to the seventh day where he created football. Every coach since then has been painted next to a shadowy Bahr leaning up against the goal post as if to approve. All nine. That's of course, because each one is said to be the prophet. Bahr incarnate. Bahr's soul lives and breathes through the present coach. The second coming. Then somehow every darn one is proven to be a false prophet. The tale is yet to be told on this one. Could this time really for real, no take-backs be the chosen one?
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm159/masonleesmith/1724legacy.jpg)
Do I condone whan my other fans may think? No, not always. Bear Bryant is dead. He was a great coach, but we're long overdue to move on. Our fanbase is slowly slowly slowly turning its head from the past and living in the future. Key word: SLOWLY. CNS is partly to thank for this for sometimes bitchslapping our fanbase and telling them they are some unrealistic motherfuckers and need to get their heads on straight. I post on BOL from time to time now. In years prior, I wouldn't dare post there because I was embarassed at how they acted. To them, a 7-6 season was celebrated and an obvious sign we were back on our way to the national stage. They acted just like some of the AU fans act today. AU was having success, so every time AU landed a good recruit they were cheating. Everytime anything happened at AU, they were guilty of something and there were childish "I didn't get my way!" accusations. Its embarassing.
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Maker's Mark, 1792, Woodford Reserve with 2 ice cubes, anything else ruins the drink, just pour Kentucky Gentleman if your going to kill the taste with coke!
I have to disagree, I sometimes drink KY Gentleman when I want to drink hard for a few days straight b/c it's cheap, but never mix with coke. If you mix KY Gentleman with anything (or any bourbon for that matter) chase it with a shot of water. It will also help keep you hydrated and the hangover won't be as bad.
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I have a hiatal hernia and if I drink any liquor straight it fucks my stomach up something fierce. I've mainly had to switch to Sprite with my Crown because the caffeine in Coke makes my stomach hurt if I drink way too much.
Some fucker told me one time that Canadian Mist was the closest you would find to the taste of Crown at a fraction of the cost. Nasty. Shit. Maker's Mark is pretty good stuff, though. For some reason I don't find much difference between Crown and Jack.
Stick with Maker's Mark of Knob Creek.....if you want something cheaper Dickel no.12 is hard to beat. Now if you want to binge drink or need really cheap, KY Gentleman is the way to go.
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I have a hiatal hernia and if I drink any liquor straight it fucks my stomach up something fierce. I've mainly had to switch to Sprite with my Crown because the caffeine in Coke makes my stomach hurt if I drink way too much.
Some fucker told me one time that Canadian Mist was the closest you would find to the taste of Crown at a fraction of the cost. Nasty. Shit. Maker's Mark is pretty good stuff, though. For some reason I don't find much difference between Crown and Jack.
Seagram's 7 is the best cheap Blended Whiskey and the closest to Crown Royal.
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I agree with RWS, Canadian Mist is some nasty shit.
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I drink beer :bar:
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White Russians for me, thanks.
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White Russians for me, thanks.
The Dude abides.
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Seagram's 7 is the best cheap Blended Whiskey and the closest to Crown Royal.
Mix it with some 7Up and you got yourself a partaee.
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Ah, nice.
I'm a Crown & Coke man myself. Martinis are disgusting. Its amazing what you will try Crown with when you are beyond shitfaced and you are out of Coke or Sprite. Mountain Dew, Cherry 7-UP, Barq's, etc. Crown and Barq's is especially interesting.
It's a seasonal thing. Martinis or Gin and Tonic in warm weather, Crown on the rocks in cool weather. Nobody with a sliver of class fucks up Crown with Coke.
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Okay, just a sidebar here. Never talk smack while sipping a martini. Especially a Sapphire martini. Lie and say beer or bourbon or shots of tequila or something. It's just that the GET FUCKED kind of loses it's punch when you admit to sipping a martini. MMkay?
Carry on!!
You ever had a Gin Martini? Far from pansy.
- Just sayin
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You ever had a Gin Martini? Far from pansy.
- Just sayin
Yeah, I can see it now.
"As soon as I finish this Gin Martini, I'm gonna' bitch slap your ass....really hard...you bitch."
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You ever had a Gin Martini? Far from pansy.
- Just sayin
I guess you could say the same thing about a Long Island Iced Tea...
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I guess you could say the same thing about a Long Island Iced Tea...
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Better not be anybody hating on a Long Island Tea.
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LIT's and Martini's are OK with me. Anything that has mostly liquor in it is a winner.
The best Martini I've made recently at the house is with vodka, though.
2 oz Level One Vodka
1 oz Martini and Rossi Dry Vermouth
1-3 teaspoons of Spanish Olive juice, to taste
Shake in a shaker, pour in a cold glass...pop a couple of spanish olives in there...and turn into a complete asshole after 3 of them. Yessssss....
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LIT's and Martini's are OK with me. Anything that has mostly liquor in it is a winner.
The best Martini I've made recently at the house is with vodka, though.
2 oz Level One Vodka
1 oz Martini and Rossi Dry Vermouth
1-3 teaspoons of Spanish Olive juice, to taste
Shake in a shaker, pour in a cold glass...pop a couple of spanish olives in there...and turn into a complete asshole after 3 of them. Yessssss....
New recipe to try! :thumbsup:
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You ever had a Gin Martini? Far from pansy.
- Just sayin
Damn Right! And they should be painfully dry!
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Yeah, I can see it now.
"As soon as I finish this Gin Martini, I'm gonna' bitch slap your ass....really hard...you bitch."
Gin Martini is redundant. You can only make a real martini with gin.
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LIT's and Martini's are OK with me. Anything that has mostly liquor in it is a winner.
The best Martini I've made recently at the house is with vodka, though.
2 oz Level One Vodka
1 oz Martini and Rossi Dry Vermouth
1-3 teaspoons of Spanish Olive juice, to taste
Shake in a shaker, pour in a cold glass...pop a couple of spanish olives in there...and turn into a complete asshole after 3 of them. Yessssss....
My recipe:
Enough Sapphire Gin to fill a large martini glass
Swirl Martin and Rossi Dry Vermouth in the glass and dump remander in sink
Martini shaker fill with ice and Gin, shaken lightly, poured to the brim of said martini glass that has been in the freezer for some hours and then swirled with Vermouth.
Garnish with large olive and enjoy.
For a drier version, simply open the vermouth and place on counter, whaft the aroma of vermouth in to the shaker, then pour gin, shake, garnish, and enjoy.
For the driest, merely look at the bottle of Vermouth real hard while you shake the gin.
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Yeah, I can see it now.
"As soon as I finish this Gin Martini, I'm gonna' bitch slap your ass....really hard...you bitch."
This guy says fuck you
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Wes got me drinking Sapphire Gin, that shit is as smooth as the other side of the pillow. I also am a huge rum drinker...Pyrat on the rocks.
My Martini Recipe:
2/3 Sapphire Gin
1/3 Grey Goose Vodka
Shaken over ice, served with a couple olives. Quite tasty!
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Wes got me drinking Sapphire Gin, that shit is as smooth as the other side of the pillow.
I'll take "Mangled Quotes" for $100, Alex.
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I'll take "Mangled Quotes" for $100, Alex.
:rofl:
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I have a hiatal hernia and if I drink any liquor straight it fucks my stomach up something fierce. I've mainly had to switch to Sprite with my Crown because the caffeine in Coke makes my stomach hurt if I drink way too much.
Some fucker told me one time that Canadian Mist was the closest you would find to the taste of Crown at a fraction of the cost. Nasty. Shit. Maker's Mark is pretty good stuff, though. For some reason I don't find much difference between Crown and Jack.
Canadian Mist is nasty. Try James Foxe for your cheap imitation Crown. You can tell the difference straight, not so much mixed. Crown is the only blended whiskey I can stomach. Just barely.
I get a half galleon for Christmas every year because the spouse has a glass collection that spans back decades. I really don't like it enough to buy any more. I like my bourbons.
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I'll take "Mangled Quotes" for $100, Alex.
I chortled...