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Pat Dye Field => Signing Day => Topic started by: War Eagle!!! on January 20, 2009, 10:25:08 AM
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OK...how do you spin this shit. I was hopeful and trying to be optomistic about the hiring of the offensive staff, but how does one person, Luper, have one conversation with a kid and the kid decommits right there on the spot. What. The. Fuck? This dude was committed to Auburn when we didn't even have a coach and the Luper comes in with one conversation and ruins it???
I am leaning towards the Kaos bandwagon here guys. Even with all of the positive news that we have been "given" about recruiting ad having big names come in, we have signed NONE OF THEM...Add to that that 3 commitments have decided to go elsewhere in the past 3 days and I am really beginning to wonder....
Frisco (Tex.) Centennial center Aaron Moore, who committed to Auburn this summer and has held firm with the Tigers throughout a coaching transition, decided to open his recruitment back up.
Moore said the decision came after a discussion with Auburn assistant coach Curtis Luper Monday night.
"I just had a conversation with Coach Luper tonight and decided to withdraw my commitment," Moore said.
The 6-foot-5, 255-pound Moore didn't offer up any details.
"I just don't feel comfortable with some of the decisions and decided to withdraw my commitment," he said.
Moore has not had much contact with other schools since officially visiting Auburn Sept. 19. He's in the process of setting up some additional visits.
"I actually called Baylor and talked with Coach (Larry) Hoefer and we called Coach (Eddie) Williamson from TCU, Utah and some other schools," Moore said.
Moore is the third prospect to de-commit from Auburn in the last three days. Greenville (Miss.) St. Joseph all-purpose back LaDarius Perkins switched to Mississippi State this weekend after an official visit to Starkville. Garden City (Kan.) Community College four-star receiver Cameron Kenney dropped Auburn and said he would choose either Georgia or Oklahoma.
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OK...how do you spin this shit. I was hopeful and trying to be optomistic about the hiring of the offensive staff, but how does one person, Luper, have one conversation with a kid and the kid decommits right there on the spot. What. The. Fuck? This dude was committed to Auburn when we didn't even have a coach and the Luper comes in with one conversation and ruins it???
I am leaning towards the Kaos bandwagon here guys. Even with all of the positive news that we have been "given" about recruiting ad having big names come in, we have signed NONE OF THEM...Add to that that 3 commitments have decided to go elsewhere in the past 3 days and I am really beginning to wonder....
I'm going to go ahead and step way the fuck out on a limb here now.
Where exactly have we heard that these guys are "great" recruiters and "super" coaches? From other posters on this or some other message board? What do they know?
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I think I will wait a while before I get the pitchfork ready. Still got the torch burning though.
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I'm going to go ahead and step way the fuck out on a limb here now.
Where exactly have we heard that these guys are "great" recruiters and "super" coaches? From other posters on this or some other message board? What do they know?
I think it was from posters on OKST sites and the prospects these coaches where pulling for these schools.
I haven't seen shit from these guys YET and I am getting very concerned with what is going on down there on the plains. The CK thing really pissed me off.
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Dude was a 245lb Lineman...maybe they wanted to go after guys who weren't "projects" this year?
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don't worry guys, its not signing day yet, these guys are coming back, right AC? i told you a month ago that AU's class would be bad come signing day and its looking about right. i wonder if this is the Chizik effect Prowler keeps hearing about..... :rofl: just remember AC, you're the one that made it a big deal to show how much of an idiot i was for telling you my opinion by making a whole new thread and even a graphic to show me how much of a moron i am. looks like i'm going to get the last laugh on this one.
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don't worry guys, its not signing day yet, these guys are coming back, right AC? i told you a month ago that AU's class would be bad come signing day and its looking about right. i wonder if this is the Chizik effect Prowler keeps hearing about..... :rofl:
F U C K Y O U....
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F U C K Y O U....
hey, it wasn't so much directed towards yall as much as it was towards AC. he made this HUGE deal and made an epic fucking novel about how stupid i was for making my opinion known that AU's 09 class was going to be in the shitter when signing day rolled around. don't get all pissed off at me because he shot his mouth off and now his foot is wedged squarely in mouth.
P.S. AC, i'm still going to have alot more to brag about than you will on NSD. btw, how many decommits has AU gotten back?
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This is NOT spin. I will say first and foremost, I'm pissed as well about losing some of these guys recently, most notably, CK. However, this one has no impact at all to me. This guy was one of several that I was actually hoping the new staff would replace. He was recruited for Franklin's or Tuberville's new version of the spread. He's a guy that we all tried to spin the hell out of when he gave his verbal.
Second, I will also say that this is a huge assumption on my part. The kid said he had a conversation with Luper and decided to withdraw. My assumption is that Luper told him they had different plans for either what was going to be run at Auburn or what they think his role would be. Is Auburn going for 300+ pound O-linemen now and someone at around 250 doesn't fit the bill? I don't know, but I'd bet the conversation involved some of those issues.
I'll go ahead and agree with several others that this recruiting season seems to have taken a definite step backwards the last few days. We can only hope they have a plan in place to close hard and get the kids they want.
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Dude was a 245lb Lineman...maybe they wanted to go after guys who weren't "projects" this year?
Tulsa's average freshman OL weighs in at 267 lbs. you need a smaller OL to run Malzahan's style of offense, sort of the same deal with Franklin's.
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Tulsa's average freshman OL weighs in at 267 lbs. you need a smaller OL to run Malzahan's style of offense, sort of the same deal with Franklin's.
Even so...think he would've put on 20 prior to summer workouts? I mean, I can...but it takes a special talent to gain like that.
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Tulsa's average freshman OL weighs in at 267 lbs. you need a smaller OL to run Malzahan's style of offense, sort of the same deal with Franklin's.
Why do you insist on making me ill?
Smaller linemen get said smaller asses hammered by bigger, faster SEC teams.
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Why do you insist on making me ill?
Smaller linemen get said smaller asses hammered by bigger, faster SEC teams.
i really don't see a bunch of 300+ lb OL running up and down the field running Malzahn's offense and lasting 4 quarters, unless those are some extremely athletic motherfuckers. i think AU had to abandon the no-huddle hurry-up part of CTF's abortion due to this. it made me tired just watching Tulsa in the GMAC bowl. i agree, a smaller OL would normally get their shit rocked by a bigger faster SEC DL. it could be possible that they are not going to do the hurry-up no-huddle part of Malzahn's offense, i don't know. something's going to have to give.
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Recruits are looking for schools that can give the best chance to succeed as football players.
They are going to stay the hell away as long as the chizpanzee is the HC. I don't blame them. They are not lifetime Auburn fans for the most part. Unless pat dye does the old checkbook routine again we are NOT going to get decent (by Auburn standards not ISU) recruits.
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I feel like I don't know any of you anymore.
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I feel like I don't know any of you anymore.
You guys know I love you - even you weird ones.
But I am so fucking sick and tired and tired and sick of certain of you being SO convinced that your one-sided views are the be all end all - that it is either one way or the other, with no chance of being a little of both. In any situation, the extremist views are never completely correct. We don't know for sure that Coach Chizik is going to fail spectacularly. We don't know for sure that he will be the greatest head coach ever to breathe the air at Auburn. We don't know that our recruits will be studs or if they will suck donkey balls.
WE DO NOT KNOW.
So to keep up with this CONSTANT arguing back and forth, the fuck you's, the posts that go on FOREVER and say EXACTLY THE SAME ThING AS THE PREVIOUS 16 posts, and the smug superiority that your opinion alone is correct and that the other guy will be proven wrong - it has got to stop. Just like you could never convince me to be a bammer fan, you are not going to change the other guy's opinion, and the name calling doesn't help.
Y'all need to breathe, let it go already, and wait and see like the rest of us. I am so over this discussion!!! And I am tired of having to ignore threads in this forum because I know it is full of scintilating discourse such as nyah nyah nyah...fuck you...blah blah blah
Even if y'all are just messing with each other, the thrill is gone, the joke is stale, and it is annoying as hell. Find another topic. Bash a bammer. Anything but this!!!
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Gimme a coach and i'll be glad to move on.
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Gimme a coach and i'll be glad to move on.
Dude - he's here. Get used to it. It's like Obama - like him or not, he is the President. Nothing you can do about it. Respect the office, not the man, and hope for the sake of our country/our football program, that he doesn't fuck up. Love your country. Love your school. Hope for the best.
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You guys know I love you - even you weird ones.
But I am so fucking sick and tired and tired and sick of certain of you being SO convinced that your one-sided views are the be all end all - that it is either one way or the other, with no chance of being a little of both. In any situation, the extremist views are never completely correct. We don't know for sure that Coach Chizik is going to fail spectacularly. We don't know for sure that he will be the greatest head coach ever to breathe the air at Auburn. We don't know that our recruits will be studs or if they will suck donkey balls.
WE DO NOT KNOW.
So to keep up with this CONSTANT arguing back and forth, the fuck you's, the posts that go on FOREVER and say EXACTLY THE SAME ThING AS THE PREVIOUS 16 posts, and the smug superiority that your opinion alone is correct and that the other guy will be proven wrong - it has got to stop. Just like you could never convince me to be a bammer fan, you are not going to change the other guy's opinion, and the name calling doesn't help.
Y'all need to breathe, let it go already, and wait and see like the rest of us. I am so over this discussion!!! And I am tired of having to ignore threads in this forum because I know it is full of scintilating discourse such as nyah nyah nyah...fuck you...blah blah blah
Even if y'all are just messing with each other, the thrill is gone, the joke is stale, and it is annoying as hell. Find another topic. Bash a bammer. Anything but this!!!
I think what Jen's trying to say here is that I am right about everything and you should stop badgering me and start showing the proper respect.
Did I get that right?
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I think what Jen's trying to say here is that I am right about everything and you should stop badgering me and start showing the proper respect.
Did I get that right?
Your a writer, not reader.
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Any chance that the guy was encouraged to de-commit? I don't know. Just asking.
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Any chance that the guy was encouraged to de-commit? I don't know. Just asking.
That couldn't happen it has to be Chizik's fault.
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Any chance that the guy was encouraged to de-commit? I don't know. Just asking.
Maybe? Maybe he was asked to be a Grey-Shirt. Who knows.
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Maybe? Maybe he was asked to be a Grey-Shirt. Who knows.
:thumbsup:
According the an article on scout, the kids father said that his HC was contacted by AU coaches and told that they wanted him to grey-shirt and enroll in January, so he will look elsewhere.
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:thumbsup:
According the an article on scout, the kids father said that his HC was contacted by AU coaches and told that they wanted him to grey-shirt and enroll in January, so he will look elsewhere.
I figured that was a possibility, since Auburn is offering Robert Cooper a Grey-Shirt....and possibly Anthony Gulley.
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Scissors,
I think it's kind of funny that you would go off again on this subject on this particular recruit. There have been many ups and downs. I'm definately not saying I'm happy about this. The big "HUGE" debate was/ is your lack of being able identify February on a calendar. Also, this started because you had declared our class to be a disaster back in December.
As far as this incoming signing class, I'm not sure how stellar it will be. I'm pretty positive that it won't measure up to a lot of folks expectations. It certainly won't match Alabama's class this year in all likelihood in names and star counts. I DO believe though that at minumum, we've cleared "disaster" status SO FAR though in my opinion. Still a little ways to go yet.
If you want to keep acting like a retarded chimp at random kids dropping and offering commits, that's your deal. If you've noticed, I've already dropped the volcanic ass routine in response to your shortcomings as a poster here.
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Scissors,
I think it's kind of funny that you would go off again on this subject on this particular recruit. There have been many ups and downs. I'm definately not saying I'm happy about this. The big "HUGE" debate was/ is your lack of being able identify February on a calendar. Also, this started because you had declared our class to be a disaster back in December.
the deal is, i made a statement of my opinion in December. don't hate because i called it even back then. i can point to left field all i want anytime i want, and if i'm wrong then thats my problem to deal with.
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the deal is, i made a statement of my opinion in December. don't hate because i called it even back then. i can point to left field all i want anytime i want, and if i'm wrong then thats my problem to deal with.
Mmmkay.... Couple points and we'll just move on.
1. You made a statement in December that is yet to be proven either way. It might be your opinion, and whether you're right or wrong, you're entitled to it. However, there will be much debate as to if the class after FEB 4th is a "disaster". Right now it's impossible to be "called".
2. You may not like being talked to like this, but let me remind you that it's YOU calling me out in these threads as if you've won a big yummy cookie or something. If you want to walk around "pointing into left field", then by God, you just go right on ahead. Just make sure you're parents know where to find you later.
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Petey Smith is officially off of Auburn's radar.....by both parties.
"It's Alabama all the way, baby," Smith said. "I haven't committed yet but I am pretty soon."
Smith said he hasn't been contacted by any of AU's coaches since the Willis announcement."
TIFIW, what I've heard, Willis was the only one that was recruiting Petey to Auburn and that his offer wasn't a solid one. And, Petey had been told, on his uat visit, that it was a possibility that they were going to land Willis....meaning, Willis and uat were talking towards the end of this past week.
Then....
"Coach Willis, he lied too many times. He lied to me before and he lied to me now," said Coleman. "I don't know what to think about him.
"He was just sitting in my living room two days ago telling me he was going to be there. He was pumped up. He was talking about what we'd do at Auburn. My aunt was telling him not to put all of that in my head if it wasn't true. He told her he planned to be there for at least the next 2-3 years."
Coleman goes on to say that he and his teamate Barry James (a 2010 Top ILB Recruit) will have nothing to do with uat or Willis. Coleman also said that he is still committed to Auburn, but that he's going to take his other visits then he'll decide after his last one, which, btw, will be to UT. I've got a feeling that he'll be wearing a different shade of orange than his Uncle, come Feb. 4th.
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Petey Smith is officially off of Auburn's radar.....by both parties.
TIFIW, what I've heard, Willis was the only one that was recruiting Petey to Auburn and that his offer wasn't a solid one. And, Petey had been told, on his uat visit, that it was a possibility that they were going to land Willis....meaning, Willis and uat were talking towards the end of this past week. haha, of fucking course. there is always some spin and conspiracy theory from you. every time you guys lose somebody their offer was pulled, it wasn't a commitable offer, there was some sort of shennanigans, etc. there is always some excuse. note i said excuse, not reason. there is a clear difference.
Then....
Coleman goes on to say that he and his teamate Barry James (a 2010 Top ILB Recruit) will have nothing to do with uat or Willis. Coleman also said that he is still committed to Auburn, but that he's going to take his other visits then he'll decide after his last one, which, btw, will be to UT. I've got a feeling that he'll be wearing a different shade of orange than his Uncle, come Feb. 4th. i really think he will stick to AU this time. he could have very easily commited to UT when he left after CTT leaving, but when his uncle announced he was coming back Coleman was back in. i really seeing his staying with AU tied to his uncle, not so much Willis. but who the fuck knows nowadays.
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Petey Smith is officially off of Auburn's radar.....by both parties.
TIFIW, what I've heard, Willis was the only one that was recruiting Petey to Auburn and that his offer wasn't a solid one. And, Petey had been told, on his uat visit, that it was a possibility that they were going to land Willis....meaning, Willis and uat were talking towards the end of this past week. haha, of fucking course. there is always some spin and conspiracy theory from you. every time you guys lose somebody their offer was pulled, it wasn't a commitable offer, there was some sort of shennanigans, etc. there is always some excuse. note i said excuse, not reason. there is a clear difference.
You know, he DID say "TIFWIW". You jumped him when he was merely passing along what he heard.
Besides, I know bammers NEVER do the very thing you try to rib Prowler for. Right?
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You know, he DID say "TIFWIW". You jumped him when he was merely passing along what he heard.
Besides, I know bammers NEVER do the very thing you try to rib Prowler for. Right?
i imagine some of them do, yes. doesn't make it right. either way i think its shitty to hold a kid on a pedestal and defend him when he is leaning towards your team but then totally trash him (like i have seen on other sites) when he goes to another school. doesn't matter if its an AU or UA fan, its not the right thing to do. i've seen so much of Prowler's bullshit i know that little "TIFWIW" means nothing to him. he always tries to imply by the way he posts things that he has some sort of inside track on these things.
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i imagine some of them do, yes. doesn't make it right. either way i think its shitty to hold a kid on a pedestal and defend him when he is leaning towards your team but then totally trash him (like i have seen on other sites) when he goes to another school. doesn't matter if its an AU or UA fan, its not the right thing to do. i've seen so much of Prowler's bullshit i know that little "TIFWIW" means nothing to him. he always tries to imply by the way he posts things that he has some sort of inside track on these things.
Okay so by your answer, then you acknowledge that making fun of Auburn fans on an Auburn site is probably not much different from what Bammers do on theirs. I think that's fair, but makes you hypocrit for acting like you're above it.
Also, you admit that you see the "TIFWIW". When he posts that, he's not saying it for his own benefit, he's saying it for yours. If it's bullshit to you, then that's what it's worth to you and that's where it should end. That's how that works.
You complaining about him acting like "he has some sort of inside track on these things", is funny. You wrote the book on it.
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Hey RWS....this is from my super secret inside source, Petey doesn't have a firm (commitable) offer from uat either.
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Okay so by your answer, then you acknowledge that making fun of Auburn fans on an Auburn site is probably not much different from what Bammers do on theirs. I think that's fair, but makes you hypocrit for acting like you're above it. you have missed the entire point of what i said to Prowler. when a kid decides to go somewhere other than Alabama i don't spin it and make up 3-4 bullshit reasons why to put a happy face on it to make the kid look like a liar or something, and to make Alabama come out smelling like a rose. that is the specific issue at hand. i don't trash a kid or question his character when he goes somewhere else, so how am i hypocritical in that sense? understand exactly what is being said before you reply to it, and don't change what the issue is. it has nothing to do with fans making fun of fans, it has to do with fans trashing kids who don't commit to their school. i don't agree with it when Alabama fans do it. i don't agree with it when Auburn fans do it. i don't agree with it when any fan does it.
Also, you admit that you see the "TIFWIW". When he posts that, he's not saying it for his own benefit, he's saying it for yours. If it's bullshit to you, then that's what it's worth to you and that's where it should end. That's how that works.
You complaining about him acting like "he has some sort of inside track on these things", is funny. You wrote the book on it. i would imagine you are talking about Julio's recruitment, which i remember you ridiculing me for comments i made about it. one question though: point out anything that i said that was incorrect. for example, i remember i was ridiculed relentlessly when a rumor came up that Julio was possibly going to visit AU. i said right off the bat it wasn't going to happen. cue criticism. thats only one example. go ahead an list what i was incorrect about.
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Hey RWS....this is from my super secret inside source, Petey doesn't have a firm (commitable) offer from uat either.
we will know soon enough. he said he would be commiting in the next few days, so time will tell. apparently he seems to think his offer from UA is committable. we only have two LBs verbals, and i imagine they are holding room for Tana's verbal, but our defense is dependant on plenty of stud LBs so who knows. i don't think it would be unheard of for us to take 4 LBs this class.
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Not that I am taking sides with a bammer, but in the interest of keeping futile posts to a minimum...
understand exactly what is being said before you reply to it, and don't change what the issue is.
This is chop's standard M.O. - get used to it.
NB: I am assuming that as a law enforcement support assistant, you know what an M.O. is...
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Not that I am taking sides with a bammer, but in the interest of keeping futile posts to a minimum...
This is chop's standard M.O. - get used to it.
NB: I am assuming that as a law enforcement support assistant, you know what an M.O. is...
Actually, I didn't miss RWS's point at all. I was tactful, and didn't mind telling him that he was a hypocrit. Everything he said to pursue Prowler, he's done himself at one time, and in one form or another. Period. It's that simple.
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Actually, I didn't miss RWS's point at all. I was tactful, and didn't mind telling him that he was a hypocrit. Everything he said to pursue Prowler, he's done himself at one time, and in one form or another. Period. It's that simple.
its very simple
my problem: fans who trash kids that don't commit to their favorite team
i don't trash kids or make up some negative bullshit about them when they decide they don't want to go to the school i root for. i criticised Prowler because he seems to do just that here lately. apparently, you contend that i do in fact do the same thing. i again contend that i do not do this, so now i would like you to prove that i trash these kids for the choices that they make like you say i do or have done at some point in time in one form or another.
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its very simple
my problem: fans who trash kids that don't commit to their favorite team
i don't trash kids or make up some negative bullshit about them when they decide they don't want to go to the school i root for. i criticised Prowler because he seems to do just that here lately. apparently, you contend that i do in fact do the same thing. i again contend that i do not do this, so now i would like you to prove that i trash these kids for the choices that they make like you say i do or have done at some point in time in one form or another.
You win scissors. I will not sit here and watch you blow this up into some BS that makes it seem that you're some innocent vicim caught up in all this. I've been going back and forth with you for a couple years now, and I know you well enough to know you've said plenty things as it pertains to recruiting that made me comfortable with my arguemnt. I'm not going to go look it all up. Besides, Wench will fucking come unglued if she has to listen to me say anything else. So, fine... You are perfect and never say anything negative about recruits. Moving on....
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Besides, Wench will fucking come unglued if she has to listen to me say anything else.
I stand corrected. You understood that clearly enough...
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You win scissors. I will not sit here and watch you blow this up into some BS that makes it seem that you're some innocent vicim caught up in all this. I've been going back and forth with you for a couple years now, and I know you well enough to know you've said plenty things as it pertains to recruiting that made me comfortable with my arguemnt. I'm not going to go look it all up. Besides, Wench will fucking come unglued if she has to listen to me say anything else. So, fine... You are perfect and never say anything negative about recruits. Moving on....
you enjoy gay animal sex and are a hypocrit for being engaged to a human female. i sure as fuck can't prove it, but i guess i will call you out for it anyway.....
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you enjoy gay animal sex and are a hypocrit for being engaged to a human female. i sure as fuck can't prove it, but i guess i will call you out for it anyway.....
Hey, it's not cheating, because it's your dog.
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RWS, what I said about Cameron is true...he did lie when he stated that he hadn't had any contact with the new Coaches at Auburn. Now, if I was a bammer, I would said something like...he's a fuckin' piece of shit liar and that he didn't want him or need him because we roll 8 Deep at the WR position. Did I say that? Nope, I was just observing his statements. And, in my observations he was making it sound like he doesn't want to go to Auburn and one of the main reasons was because he hadn't talked to them since Coach Chizik has gotten there.
As for, Petey, where's the trashing on him? I just stated that it could be because Coach Willis was his primary recruiter and that he didn't have a firm offer (commitable) from Auburn. He doesn't have one at uat, either, or he would've committed on Thursday. Once he gets the commitable offer from uat, he'll commit...might be today. Or, Coach $ might realize that more than 10 players falling up a flight of stairs could get the police's attention and not offer him. :poke:
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RWS, what I said about Cameron is true...he did lie when he stated that he hadn't had any contact with the new Coaches at Auburn. Now, if I was a bammer, I would said something like...he's a fuckin' piece of shit liar and that he didn't want him or need him because we roll 8 Deep at the WR position. Did I say that? Nope, I was just observing his statements. And, in my observations he was making it sound like he doesn't want to go to Auburn and one of the main reasons was because he hadn't talked to them since Coach Chizik has gotten there.
As for, Petey, where's the trashing on him? I just stated that it could be because Coach Willis was his primary recruiter and that he didn't have a firm offer (commitable) from Auburn. He doesn't have one at uat, either, or he would've committed on Thursday. Once he gets the commitable offer from uat, he'll commit...might be today. Or, Coach $ might realize that more than 10 players falling up a flight of stairs could get the police's attention and not offer him. :poke:
well then i suppose you need to tell Cameron Kenney that he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. make sure you let him know that you know much more about the situation than he himself does. again, HE is the one that ditched AU, not the other way around. i don't see why he would need to come up with a bullshit reason for why HE made the decision that he didn't want to go to AU.
please note that in my reply, i gave a multiple choice type response of the things you tend to do when a recruit goes elsewhere. in the case of Petey Smith, back in August you said you thought AU would sign him. hell, a few weeks ago AC said that he thinks Petey, as well as Greg Reid should be a big priority for the AU staff. didn't see anybody chiming in that AU wasn't going to get him. never saw talk from ANYBODY that Petey Smith's offer was not commitable. but now that he's switching, "oh damn, yeah, AU didn't want him anyway, we wouldn't have taken him. he didn't have a real offer."
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Hey, it's not cheating, because it's your dog.
Ahhhhh, what a enjoyable film. :thumbsup:
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Maybe you don't remember, or you just chose to look over my post about Cameron, that maybe he meant that he didn't have any contact with the coaches in the past couple of weeks. And I also stated, that it sucked, because I felt that he was one of our Bell Cows......Again, I could've been a bammer and stated that we didn't want him anyway, which would've been a lie.
And, stating that Petey doesn't have a commitable offer from Auburn or uat at this point, doesn't mean that I nor other Auburn fans didn't/doesn't want him. Now, does it? Nope. I actually felt that he was coming to Auburn the whole time and I wanted him to. His relationship to Willis was pretty tight...and that is one of the main reasons, if not The main reason, as to why he's going to commit to uat, eventually.
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And, stating that Petey doesn't have a commitable offer from Auburn or uat at this point, doesn't mean that I nor other Auburn fans didn't/doesn't want him. Now, does it? Nope. I actually felt that he was coming to Auburn the whole time and I wanted him to. His relationship to Willis was pretty tight...and that is one of the main reasons, if not The main reason, as to why he's going to commit to uat, eventually.
so why did you think he was coming to AU when, according to you, he did not have a commitable offer? how could he commit when there was no offer? was he going to greyshirt?
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so why did you think he was coming to AU when, according to you, he did not have a commitable offer? how could he commit when there was no offer? was he going to greyshirt?
He showed up to the Under Armor game with AU gear on. His brother is currently a player on our roster. He was building a relationship with Willis. He was at minimum considered an AU lean. Is this so hard to understand? Willis was pursuing him, but the current staff had not extended an official offer to him simply because they hadn't gotten to it. What's so hard to understand about that?
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He showed up to the Under Armor game with AU gear on. His brother is currently a player on our roster. He was building a relationship with Willis. He was at minimum considered an AU lean. Is this so hard to understand? Willis was pursuing him, but the current staff had not extended an official offer to him simply because they hadn't gotten to it. What's so hard to understand about that?
because the timeline given makes no sense. i can understand why he would be considered an AU lean, hell, i didn't see him going anywhere else. thats not the issue here. what school he was ever leaning towards has no bearing on this discussion. so, reading your explanation, let me make sure i have this straight: back in August when Prowler said he thought Smith was coming to AU, at that point he had a commitable offer. because logically, why would you think somebody was coming if they didn't have an offer, right? then when Chizik and company came in, that offer was no longer valid. because logically, if in August you thought he was coming to AU, and we have already established that normally you wouldn't think somebody is coming to a school if they didn't have an offer, then he had an offer that was apparently voided by the new staff. the new staff just hadn't "gotten around to" extending him an offer a week and a half before NSD? did Chizik's staff cherry pick whose offer wasn't valid anymore when they came on board, or did he just NEVER have a commitable offer? if he never had a commitable offer, then my original question still stands: how can you say that you think somebody is coming to AU when they do not have an offer? also, which one of you is full of shit?
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because the timeline given makes no sense. i can understand why he would be considered an AU lean, hell, i didn't see him going anywhere else. thats not the issue here. what school he was ever leaning towards has no bearing on this discussion. so, reading your explanation, let me make sure i have this straight: back in August when Prowler said he thought Smith was coming to AU, at that point he had a commitable offer. because logically, why would you think somebody was coming if they didn't have an offer, right? then when Chizik and company came in, that offer was no longer valid. because logically, if in August you thought he was coming to AU, and we have already established that normally you wouldn't think somebody is coming to a school if they didn't have an offer, then he had an offer that was apparently voided by the new staff. the new staff just hadn't "gotten around to" extending him an offer a week and a half before NSD? did Chizik's staff cherry pick whose offer wasn't valid anymore when they came on board, or did he just NEVER have a commitable offer? if he never had a commitable offer, then my original question still stands: how can you say that you think somebody is coming to AU when they do not have an offer? so, which one of you is full of shit?
Wench's head just fucking exploded.
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Petey just says shut up and read my last post and stop arguing just to argue. He's listed on Rivals as having an offer. It was clear before the Willis move, offer or not, he was an Auburn lean. This isn't hard. Just be happy you have him now and let it go.
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Wench's head just fucking exploded.
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Petey just says shut up and read my last post and stop arguing just to argue. He's listed on Rivals as having an offer. It was clear before the Willis move, offer or not, he was an Auburn lean. This isn't hard. Just be happy you have him now and let it go.
yeah, no shit he was an Auburn lean. i said that. i didn't imagine he would go anywhere else other than AU. again, that is not the issue at hand, no matter how much you try to make it. Prowler said he didn't have a commitable offer from AU in the first place, ever. however, in August he said he believed AU would sign him. my simple question is how is it in August he seemed to have an offer, but all of the sudden now he doesn't now that he isn't going to AU? thats a very simple question to answer. YOU brought up the theory that the new staff simply hadn't gotten around to offering him 1½ weeks before NSD and YOU decided to join Bullshit-Fest with Prowler. Prowler contradicts your theory, and his current theory, by saying months ago that he believed Smith would sign with AU. don't get all pissy now because you two can't get straight what line of bullshit you want to put out. YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE SOMETHING THAT I KEEP TELLING YOU ISN'T EVEN THE ISSUE! the issue at hand is the status of his AU offer, not where he was leaning towards. its a no brainer he was an easy pickup for AU. you offer up an additional bullshit theory and now that its getting busted, well now you don't want to talk about it. convenient.
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yeah, no shit he was an Auburn lean. i said that. i didn't imagine he would go anywhere else other than AU. again, that is not the issue at hand, no matter how much you try to make it. Prowler said he didn't have a commitable offer from AU in the first place, ever. however, in August he said he believed AU would sign him. my simple question is how is it in August he seemed to have an offer, but all of the sudden now he doesn't now that he isn't going to AU? thats a very simple question to answer. YOU brought up the theory that the new staff simply hadn't gotten around to offering him 1½ weeks before NSD and YOU decided to join Bullshit-Fest with Prowler. Prowler contradicts your theory, and his current theory, by saying months ago that he believed Smith would sign with AU. don't get all pissy now because you two can't get straight what line of bullshit you want to put out. YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE SOMETHING THAT I KEEP TELLING YOU ISN'T EVEN THE ISSUE! the issue at hand is the status of his AU offer, not where he was leaning towards. its a no brainer he was an easy pickup for AU.
Dude, seriously. WHO FUCKING CARES!?!?!?!? Just pretend it's spin and move on. I don't give a shit at this point whether he had a written, or laser engraved, gold fringed fucking offer from Willie Fucking Wonka himself.
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Dude, seriously. WHO FUCKING CARES!?!?!?!? Just pretend it's spin and move on. I don't give a shit at this point whether he had a written, or laser engraved, gold fringed fucking offer from Willie Fucking Wonka himself.
i don't have to pretend its spin, because spin is exactly what it is. that was my whole point to begin with.
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"Back in August when Prowler said he thought Smith was coming to AU, at that point he had a commitable offer."
Yeah, because I was on the Auburn Staff. Hell, nearly every Auburn fan that follows recruiting felt that Petey was coming to AU....I guess that means nearly every Auburn fan gave Petey a firm offer. Also, I was told by people that follow recruiting for a living that said Petey doesn't have a firm offer from Auburn or uat, right now.
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Willis was pursuing him, but the current staff had not extended an official offer to him simply because they hadn't gotten to it. What's so hard to understand about that?
Understandable or not, if this is reality, then you're making a pretty strong case for Chizik sucking total ass.
"Hadn't gotten around to it?" Yeah, he was mostly concerned with getting cable installed in his rental house so he could watch the new season of Psych on USA. He'll get around to that annoying ass recruiting shit later.
Sheesh...
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Understandable or not, if this is reality, then you're making a pretty strong case for Chizik sucking total ass.
"Hadn't gotten around to it?" Yeah, he was mostly concerned with getting cable installed in his rental house so he could watch the new season of Psych on USA. He'll get around to that annoying ass recruiting shit later.
Sheesh...
chizpanzee makes that case quite fine by himself.
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Understandable or not, if this is reality, then you're making a pretty strong case for Chizik sucking total ass.
"Hadn't gotten around to it?" Yeah, he was mostly concerned with getting cable installed in his rental house so he could watch the new season of Psych on USA. He'll get around to that annoying ass recruiting shit later.
Sheesh...
Yes. This is exactly right. You nailed it. :thumbsup:
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Yes. This is exactly right. You nailed it. :thumbsup:
Chopper: (-10) and a suspension for copying the work of others.
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Chopper: (-10) and a suspension for copying the work of others.
Thank God you don't set the rules. Sorry kid. Fuck off and come back next year.
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Thank God you don't set the rules. Sorry kid. Fuck off and come back next year.
Chopper (-20) for not understanding where rules come from.
Chopper (-15) for anal leakage.
Is that sulphur I smell?
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Chopper (-20) for not understanding where rules come from.
Chopper (-15) for anal leakage.
Is that sulphur I smell?
Yes, that's it exactly. You nailed it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Yes, that's it exactly. You nailed it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Another (-20) for cheating off somebody else's paper.
And (-5) for failing to understand the concept of "originality"
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Another (-20) for cheating off somebody else's paper.
And (-5) for failing to understand the concept of "originality"
Kaos = Keeper of "originality". :thumbsup: :thumbsup: