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Title: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2023, 10:01:38 AM
Well honestly, there have always been stupid people, so maybe this is the future I was worried about.

Remember when there were these things called Record Stores?  There was no internet to download your music from at the touch of a button.  You actually drove to the Mall and walked in the store, to flip through the albums.  If you heard something you liked, and didn't know who played it, you would go and give them as much information as you had, and see if they could find it for you.

Such was the case about 20 years ago.  I heard a song on the AM/FM radios, that I assumed was called "Birmingham". It was.  I loved the tune and thought it might be something I wanted to work up on the guitar, so I went in one of our record stores and asked the guy if he knew what artist sang Birmingham.  He started typing, paused a few seconds, looked back up at me an asked....

"You mean, like the State?"

A few seconds of awkward staring, before I simply nodded, and said, "Yes, the State".

Fast forward to yesterday.  I guess stupid applies to a lot of things, because I found myself at the McDonald's drive-thru.  Okay, save it.  I was hungry, it was right there, and no one was in line. I order my delicious Quarter Pounder w/Cheese, pull up to the pay window, and before the rocket surgeon takes my money, she hollers to someone in the back...

Terrell....is Alabama a State?

Did I hear that right?  If I had any questions, they were answered.

Terrell...is Alabama a State?  That will be $6.95.  Snags receives card back and proceeds to pull forward, only to hear...

TERRELL....IS ALABAMA A STATE?

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:   
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2023, 11:05:07 AM
Breaking news: minimum wage workers not as smart as local lawyer.

Film at 11.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on October 31, 2023, 11:29:18 AM
minimum wage workers not as smart as local lawyer.

I expect a min wage worker to be less savvy than a professional seasoned adult. I know your comment was tongue in cheek (although snags prefers it in his butt) but I think the concern here is HOW much dumber some of these kids are now. They don't even know basics of geography, money, history, civics, etc. It's really the first time I've seen it this widespread my adult life. Its concerning.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2023, 11:53:49 AM
I expect a min wage worker to be less savvy than a professional seasoned adult. I know your comment was tongue in cheek (although snags prefers it in his butt) but I think the concern here is HOW much dumber some of these kids are now. They don't even know basics of geography, money, history, civics, etc. It's really the first time I've seen it this widespread my adult life. Its concerning.

There's always been a robust populace of idiocy.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 31, 2023, 11:59:29 AM
Breaking news: minimum wage workers not as smart as local lawyer.

Film at 11.
BULLSHIT
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2023, 12:05:28 PM
I don't think most teenagers can read an actual clock. It's all on the phone.  Why would they try and figure out what those little arrow thingies are pointing at?

Numbers.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on October 31, 2023, 12:27:11 PM
I don't think most teenagers can read an actual clock. It's all on the phone.  Why would they try and figure out what those little arrow thingies are pointing at?

Numbers.

Did you also decry the loss of the abacus and slide-rule with the advent of the pocket calculator?

It's ok to let old tech die when better shit comes along.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: chinook on October 31, 2023, 12:29:17 PM
I don't think most teenagers can read an actual clock. It's all on the phone.  Why would they try and figure out what those little arrow thingies are pointing at?

Numbers.

have you ever tried to carry a sun dial?  akward.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2023, 02:16:34 PM
have you ever tried to carry a sun dial?  akward.

^^This^^
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on October 31, 2023, 03:30:40 PM
There's always been a robust populace of idiocy.

It's more the floor at which we've reached with it. The low is much lower than the low of years past. We're talking basic knowledge here. There is no way society can function if there are more people like that, than NOT.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2023, 03:41:03 PM
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snakebite on October 31, 2023, 05:32:47 PM
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future.

Not gonna lie… I thought this was a quote from Kamala Harris before looking it up to be proven wrong. Initially I was relieved, but the fact that it was my first thought and it was believable gives further credibility to your take. We’re fucked.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 31, 2023, 05:43:12 PM
Not gonna lie… I thought this was a quote from Kamala Harris before looking it up to be proven wrong. Initially I was relieved, but the fact that it was my first thought and it was believable gives further credibility to your take. We’re fucked.

Far from it. As long as we keep helping South Africa, Iraq and the Asian countries, we'll be building our future.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: AUJarhead on October 31, 2023, 05:57:36 PM
Far from it. As long as we keep helping South Africa, Iraq and the Asian countries, we'll be building our future.

Our country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any America—because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.

Chesty Puller
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: War Damn Six on October 31, 2023, 09:24:18 PM
To ask the question no one is asking…

What song did you think was named Birmingham?

Birmingham Tonight?

Paint Me A Birmingham? Blech. 

Birmingham?  Double blech. 

Do you still have the Telluride vinyl?

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: War Damn Six on October 31, 2023, 10:11:05 PM
That led me down a rabbit hole of…

Telluride
Tommy Shaw and the Contemporary Youth Orchestra
Los Lonely Boys
The Band
JT
Lisa Loeb
Dido
Ruth B.
Kenny Wayne Shepard
Blink 182
Vanessa Carlton
Sixpence None The Richer
Cranberries

I don’t know how to feel…
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Kaos on October 31, 2023, 10:20:23 PM
Breaking news: minimum wage workers not as smart as local lawyer.

Film at 11.

But they should make $20 an hour.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2023, 08:42:40 AM
But they should make $20 an hour.

They said so....just cause.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on November 01, 2023, 09:25:04 AM
They said so....just cause.

No, not "just cause."

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 01, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
To ask the question no one is asking…

What song did you think was named Birmingham?

Birmingham Tonight?

Paint Me A Birmingham? Blech. 

Birmingham?  Double blech. 

Do you still have the Telluride vinyl?

Birmingham - Amanda Marshall

Virgil Spencer's got a 19-inch Hitachi
And many demons lingering
Friday night, he pulled a gun to change the channel
Something that he picked up from the king
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2023, 12:13:35 PM
No, not "just cause."

90% of them? Yes.

Quit being wrong based on your feelings and ideology....bro.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on November 01, 2023, 12:24:35 PM
90% of them? Yes.

Quit being wrong based on your feelings and ideology....bro.

As soon as you do the same, I guess.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 01, 2023, 12:41:16 PM
Running a small, mom and pop business as I do, with 5 employees, it's a quandary to say the least.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on November 01, 2023, 01:00:31 PM
Running a small, mom and pop business as I do, with 5 employees, it's a quandary to say the least.

I feel your pain, as I'm in the same boat.

The economy is failing the entire middle class. 

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Kaos on November 01, 2023, 01:56:05 PM
I feel your pain, as I'm in the same boat.

The economy is failing the entire middle class.

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/MEGA764947_041.jpg?quality=75&strip=all)

But no more mean tweets or putting America first, right? 

Amazing to me how you can be so completely blind to the most basic realities.  It doesn't matter what the minimum wage is, the only thing that matters is buying power.  $20 an hour?  Who cares when a Big Mac costs $8.99 and gas costs $6 a gallon.  OH!  Then they need $30!!  Okay, now the Mac is $10.99 and gas is $8.00.   
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2023, 04:01:17 PM
As soon as you do the same, I guess.

Math, Numbers, not being in the red.....thats what I use.

If you think current min wage workers deserve double, sometimes triple what they get with no logical reason, then please explain WHY you think this is? The math doesn't add up Wes.

Most Min Wage jobs are that for a reason. They require little skill, responsibility, stress, ROI, risk, or education to do them. You know all this - that's the part I can't understand. I like ya dawg, but I can't fathom how you don't see this stuff clearly.

All that said, like Jar opined a few weeks ago - you still my boy blue.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Kaos on November 01, 2023, 06:57:44 PM
Most Min Wage jobs are that for a reason. They require little skill, responsibility, stress, ROI, risk, or education to do them. You know all this - that's the part I can't understand. I like ya dawg, but I can't fathom how you don't see this stuff clearly.

The idea that those jobs are supposed to be "living wage" jobs is where the rails fell apart and the train crashed.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 01, 2023, 09:38:40 PM
The idea that those jobs are supposed to be "living wage" jobs is where the rails fell apart and the train crashed.

And never permanent. You work these jobs when you first start out. Get some coin, increase your skill set, education and experience and move on to a better job. Others come in behind you and take that spot. It’s a cycle. It’s people that are 28 and still working these jobs trying to make a living that’s the issue. You have to get skills that pay. It’s that simple. These people aren’t doing it.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: CCTAU on November 01, 2023, 10:23:48 PM
And never permanent. You work these jobs when you first start out. Get some coin, increase your skill set, education and experience and move on to a better job. Others come in behind you and take that spot. It’s a cycle. It’s people that are 28 and still working these jobs trying to make a living that’s the issue. You have to get skills that pay. It’s that simple. These people aren’t doing it.

Look at the liberal education/indoctrination system for the last 20 years. They have created a generation in despair looking for a handout. We are living the result of liberal ideology!
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 02, 2023, 09:00:36 AM
GH expressed the low down.

I just want to point out that chasing ambulances or waiting until the Pig mops the floor in order to hang out to hope there are slip and falls, does not constitute a “small business”.
 :facepalm:

This is actually taking money out of the pockets of the small businesses.

What do you call a thousand drowned lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

That’s right, a pretty good start.

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 02, 2023, 09:27:11 AM
GH expressed the low down.

I just want to point out that chasing ambulances or waiting until the Pig mops the floor in order to hang out to hope there are slip and falls, does not constitute a “small business”.
 :facepalm:

This is actually taking money out of the pockets of the small businesses.

What do you call a thousand drowned lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

That’s right, a pretty good start.

Hey, this got me to thinking....whats Snags been up to lately?
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 02, 2023, 10:22:08 AM
GH expressed the low down.

I just want to point out that chasing ambulances or waiting until the Pig mops the floor in order to hang out to hope there are slip and falls, does not constitute a “small business”.
 :facepalm:

This is actually taking money out of the pockets of the small businesses.

What do you call a thousand drowned lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

That’s right, a pretty good start.

Oh yeah?  Well....What's brown and smells like doo-doo?

That's right, you do!

HA! GOT HIIIMMMMM!!!!!!
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 02, 2023, 10:32:55 AM
Oh yeah?  Well....What's brown and smells like doo-doo?

That's right, you do!

HA! GOT HIIIMMMMM!!!!!!
All kidding aside, I don’t think you want to get into a battle of unarmed wits with a man who is an idiot.

Dumass. I’ll designate today as “slap a lawyer to sleep” day and be up there by lunchtime. And that’s after a quick stop in Destin.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: chinook on November 02, 2023, 02:15:25 PM
And never permanent. You work these jobs when you first start out. Get some coin, increase your skill set, education and experience and move on to a better job. Others come in behind you and take that spot. It’s a cycle. It’s people that are 28 and still working these jobs trying to make a living that’s the issue. You have to get skills that pay. It’s that simple. These people aren’t doing it.

elitism at its finest. 

categorically saying "these people aren't doing it" is wrong. 

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: wesfau2 on November 02, 2023, 03:18:26 PM
elitism at its finest. 

categorically saying "these people aren't doing it" is wrong.

Wait...I thought I was the elitist around here?!?!

Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 02, 2023, 03:31:40 PM
Wait...I thought I was the elitist around here?!?!

Your tight ass is elite level.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: CCTAU on November 02, 2023, 03:33:42 PM
Hey, this got me to thinking....whats Snags been up to lately?
Wellll. Since you was askeded...

If you ride through the good city of Dothan on a regular (which I do on mah way to Mommeranem's) you can tune into the radio and hear the adverts for Carey and Hamner. I tried to stop by and visit, but the parking lot was full of bambalances.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snakebite on November 02, 2023, 03:39:17 PM
Wellll. Since you was askeded...

If you ride through the good city of Dothan on a regular (which I do on mah way to Mommeranem's) you can tune into the radio and hear the adverts for Carey and Hamner. I tried to stop by and visit, but the parking lot was full of bambalances.

How come Carey gets to put his name first? Not trying to start shit.. But these are questions that I feel need to be asked.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: CCTAU on November 02, 2023, 03:40:26 PM
How come Carey gets to put his name first? Not trying to start shit.. But these are questions that I feel need to be asked.

He's old...
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 02, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
You can come by anytime.  Just don't slip and fall.  We don't have good insurance.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM
elitism at its finest. 

categorically saying "these people aren't doing it" is wrong.

So they are building their broader, higher paying skillsets and just not moving on to use them?

Or are they choosing not to (or already chose not to) build their skillset?

Either of these being expressed is hardly being elitist. You can literally go drive a HS Bus a few hours a day with no exp needed, and they will train you, help you get a CDL and it's way better than min wage. Numerous examples like this. It can be done.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Kaos on November 02, 2023, 06:19:59 PM
elitism at its finest. 

categorically saying "these people aren't doing it" is wrong.

Oh. My. God. 

Seriously? 
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 02, 2023, 09:20:05 PM
Oh. My. God. 

Seriously?

I’m gonna bow out of this one…I like these dudes personally but we’re on 2 different planets with this topic.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: Kaos on November 02, 2023, 11:03:17 PM
I’m gonna bow out of this one…I like these dudes personally but we’re on 2 different planets with this topic.

Universes. 

And it's really not that hard.  My first job, I made minimum wage.  I made about $70 a week. But I could take a $20, put five gallons of gas in my car, take a date to the movies, spring for appetizers and a meal at Red Lobster and get a blowjob on the way home.  And I'd STILL have money in my pocket. 

My goal in that day was to work my way up to making $30,000 a year.  That was the big-time. 

People today have WAAAY more opportunities than I did.  I had to work two or three jobs and pay for my own college. I had to put in my time at some jobs I hated just to get experience so I could work my way to a higher level. 

Minimum wage jobs are NOT living wage jobs.  If you're in your 30s, have several kids to support and expect to make a "living wage" working 25 hours a week running the fryers at Burger King?  That's a problem.

If you honestly expect minimum wage to be "living wage"?  YOU'RE a problem.  A big one.

If you truly think paying Chucky who scrambles eggs at Waffle House $20, $25, $30, $50, $100 an hour is going to change his circumstances or improve the economy?  You need to put down the bong. 

Life's not fair.  It's not supposed to be. The idea that Maria from McDonald's should be on equal economic footing with somebody who has worked their way up to a more educated, more talented, more demanding position is absolute freaking lunacy.  THIS is how America ends.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: chinook on November 03, 2023, 12:16:24 AM
So they are building their broader, higher paying skillsets and just not moving on to use them?

Or are they choosing not to (or already chose not to) build their skillset?

Either of these being expressed is hardly being elitist. You can literally go drive a HS Bus a few hours a day with no exp needed, and they will train you, help you get a CDL and it's way better than min wage. Numerous examples like this. It can be done.

I was talking about you.
Title: Re: Face Palm For Our Future
Post by: GH2001 on November 03, 2023, 08:41:44 AM
I was talking about you.

Yes. I know.

These scenarios are being expressed by me.

How is this idea elitist? To either build yourself towards upward mobility (several routes to this end) or sit in the same place. Those are the options. When did this become a crazy "elitist" idea?

Ok, so maybe I didn't bow out. Really asking here Nook. Not trying to throw shade at you and weskie.