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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: AuburnChopper 3.0 on November 04, 2008, 01:38:22 PM
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Utopia, or a Utopian candidate is an ideal, not a viable or possible option.
Vote = Your voice in government, whether that means working towards sending someone to represent you that shares your views, or keeping one that doesn't out. It's your voice in a democracy that was earned in blood of those that are fighting, and those that fought and died for it. Pitching it aside as a trashable option to prove a point is shallow and proves nothing to nobody, and accomplishes nothing.
Get OUT AND VOTE!
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Utopia, or a Utopian candidate is an ideal, not a viable or possible option.
Vote = Your voice in government, whether that means working towards sending someone to represent you that shares your views, or keeping one that doesn't out. It's your voice in a democracy that was earned in blood of those that are fighting, and those that fought and died for it. Pitching it aside as a trashable option to prove a point is shallow and proves nothing to nobody, and accomplishes nothing.
Get OUT AND VOTE!
At the risk of sounding like the choir I could not agree with you more AC1. Get out and vote today, X'ers, if you have not done so already! Sitting the election out should not be an option.
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Why should people settle for someone they do not like, because they dislike another candidate more? Or because they are scared? People died for this country so that protestor's can burn flags if they choose, or so that people can refuse to vote if they do not like either candidate/the two party system, and so that people like you can throw out words like trash able in reference to other's opinions and voice. It does prove something, it proves that people are sick of the system and sick of the choices given to them.
Now, go watch some Fox News.
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Why should people settle for someone they do not like, because they dislike another candidate more? Or because they are scared? People died for this country so that protestor's can burn flags if they choose, or so that people can refuse to vote if they do not like either candidate/the two party system, and so that people like you can throw out words like trash able in reference to other's opinions and voice. It does prove something, it proves that people are sick of the system and sick of the choices given to them.
Now, go watch some Fox News.
Even people that are burning flags, or protesting, are doing something about their cause and therefore bring attention to their message.
By not voting and sitting on your arse, you do nothing more than than the silent tree stump in the middle of the forest. You're voiceless. You prove nothing. Complete worthlessness.
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Even people that are burning flags, or protesting, are doing something about their cause and therefore bring attention to their message.
By not voting and sitting on your arse, you do nothing more than than the silent tree stump in the middle of the forest. You're voiceless. You prove nothing. Complete worthlessness.
I am letting by voice be known by telling everyone how I feel. Being worthless is following someone blindly or voting for someone that you truly do not want to. If you buy something you do not want, then it is completely _______________ to you. Fill in the blank Chopper. I will help you out, it rhymes with smorthless.
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Go ahead Taylor, pull the "chopper's just being uptight" card. Fucking weak.
You could have just said you didn't have the time, or desire to vote this time around, but you chose to take the stance that somehow the system is a failure and how nobody represents you.
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Go ahead Taylor, pull the "chopper's just being uptight" card. Fucking weak.
You could have just said you didn't have the time, or desire to vote this time around, but you chose to take the stance that somehow the system is a failure and how nobody represents you.
Don't get mad, I <3 you. :bar:
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You might love me, but not as much as Clondor's going to love you when you fight him in the stone circle of death.
:silence:
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Why should people settle for someone they do not like, because they dislike another candidate more? Or because they are scared? People died for this country so that protestor's can burn flags if they choose, or so that people can refuse to vote if they do not like either candidate/the two party system, and so that people like you can throw out words like trash able in reference to other's opinions and voice. It does prove something, it proves that people are sick of the system and sick of the choices given to them.
Now, go watch some Fox News.
I'm not sitting this one out just because some fucking idiots in my party nominated John McCain as my party's candidate. Yeah you have the right to sit on your ass and not vote but it is a civic responsibility to do so in my opinion.
I didn't "feel" like voting for McCain but I did not "feel" like letting The Obama win without a fight. I might go down with the sinking ship but at least I did what I knew to be the correct thing to do. And I can bitch about The Obama and the democrats socialists in good conscience because I didn't vote for any of the bastards.
I also didn't "feel" like pointing out a voting irregularity but I knew what I observed was against the law and that it should be corrected so I did my civic responsibility again (see "So there I was at the Polling Place...").
I seem to hear every election cycle that "this election is the most important election in our history". The truth is that every election is important.
I mean nothing personal because I don't know you so don't take my criticism that way but get out and vote; AC1 is right; and you don't have to vote for a presidential candidate at all but you can vote down-ticket for local folk.
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I voted for Bob Barr.
I reserve the right to bitch no matter who wins (cause I know it ain't gonna be him).
My justification falls in line with what Taylor was saying. My vote went to building the Libertarian party as a viable third party, which to me was more important than voting for a douche or a turd sandwich. Aside from that, even if I WERE voting for the lesser of two evils, I think we're pretty safe that Alabama's electoral votes are going to McCain anyway.
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I voted for Bob Barr.
I reserve the right to bitch no matter who wins (cause I know it ain't gonna be him).
My justification falls in line with what Taylor was saying. My vote went to building the Libertarian party as a viable third party, which to me was more important than voting for a douche or a turd sandwich. Aside from that, even if I WERE voting for the lesser of two evils, I think we're pretty safe that Alabama's electoral votes are going to McCain anyway.
I lined up 47 people to write my name in hoping that I would get just enough votes to make the newspaper. I am not voting for myself, however. It wouldn't be right.
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I lined up 47 people to write my name in hoping that I would get just enough votes to make the newspaper. I am not voting for myself, however. It wouldn't be right.
Well, I might have written you in so that you could be a multi-state write-in, but I didn't know the plan.
I could have put you over the top.
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Well, I might have written you in so that you could be a multi-state write-in, but I didn't know the plan.
I could have put you over the top.
It's one of those things that's been building for a while. Back when it was Clinton and Daddy Bush (1988) I kept bitching about how we had no viable candidates. In protest and in response to my continued ranting, a couple of friends wrote me in as a joke. Since then it's expanded a little. I've gotten write in votes in pretty much every campaign since. Governor, judges, senators, representatives, you name it. I get lots of love in the races where nobody has any idea who the people are to begin with. PSC Place #1: Clark Morganus or Sallie Beth Fausek. WHO? Screw that, I'm writing in Kaos.
Thank you for your support.
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I voted for Bob Barr.
I reserve the right to bitch no matter who wins (cause I know it ain't gonna be him).
My justification falls in line with what Taylor was saying. My vote went to building the Libertarian party as a viable third party, which to me was more important than voting for a douche or a turd sandwich. Aside from that, even if I WERE voting for the lesser of two evils, I think we're pretty safe that Alabama's electoral votes are going to McCain anyway.
The bolded sentences directly contradict each other.
(he hasn't said publicly that he actually voted yet......)
Cool deal on the Bob Barr vote.... I can respect that. Do you listen to Brian & The Judge on Fox News Radio ever? (The Judge, Judge Andrew Napolitano is a stout Libertarian)
Interesting views.
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I voted for Bob Barr.
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voting for a douche or a turd sandwich.
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Ironically that is exactly what I think about Bob Barr; he used to be my Congressman here in Georgia...and he was steaming pile of shit back then; but I have a personal bias against him.
At least you voted. And, like AC1, I can respect that (despite my low opinion of third party candidates).
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The bolded sentences directly contradict each other.
(he hasn't said publicly that he actually voted yet......)
How? Regardless of whether or not Taylor voted, my reason for voting for Bob Barr fell in line with...
Why should people settle for someone they do not like, because they dislike another candidate more? Or because they are scared? People died for this country so that protestor's can burn flags if they choose, or so that people can refuse to vote if they do not like either candidate/the two party system, and so that people like you can throw out words like trash able in reference to other's opinions and voice. It does prove something, it proves that people are sick of the system and sick of the choices given to them.
You can passively act on not feeling represented by either candidate in the two major parties like Taylor apparently chose to do by not voting, or you can actively respond by voting for the candidate who represents you best, even if you know they have less of a chance of winning than Auburn has of winning a National Championship this year.
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I lined up 47 people to write my name in hoping that I would get just enough votes to make the newspaper. I am not voting for myself, however. It wouldn't be right.
I'd consider writing you in also, Kaos, but your position on smoking is too intolerant. :poke:
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It's one of those things that's been building for a while. Back when it was Clinton and Daddy Bush (1988) I kept bitching about how we had no viable candidates. In protest and in response to my continued ranting, a couple of friends wrote me in as a joke. Since then it's expanded a little. I've gotten write in votes in pretty much every campaign since. Governor, judges, senators, representatives, you name it. I get lots of love in the races where nobody has any idea who the people are to begin with. PSC Place #1: Clark Morganus or Sallie Beth Fausek. WHO? Screw that, I'm writing in Kaos.
Thank you for your support.
I recall the 1992 Presidential election well and still hold a grudge against third-party candidates; because Ross Perot ran that year we got stuck with Bubba Clinton.
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I'd consider writing you in also, Kaos, but your position on smoking is too intolerant. :poke:
I was for it before I was against it.
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I was for it before I was against it.
That's fucking hilarious! :rofl:
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How? Regardless of whether or not Taylor voted, my reason for voting for Bob Barr fell in line with...
You can passively act on not feeling represented by either candidate in the two major parties like Taylor apparently chose to do by not voting, or you can actively respond by voting for the candidate who represents you best, even if you know they have less of a chance of winning than Auburn has of winning a National Championship this year.
I gotcha. My point was that you got off your arse to to vote (and I have a hunch that even maybe Taylor did as well actually...but he hadn't said so publicly), and he hadn't. It wasn't an attempt to be witty, or being a smartass, or being a dick. Just a very simple difference. Voting, and not voting....are different. Especially if nobody knows your motives one way or the other. If nobody knows your intent when not voting, then what the hell are you protesting? What seperates you from the "I just didn't give a crap" crowd? haha...
Let me ask folks something... Forget Taylor's specific example for a minute.... Just in general.....
Seriously... Is doing absolutely nothing, in something like a Presidential election, then not telling anyone about it, sitting at home doing other things, really something that can be considered a passive protest? I think it's a good question.
Point being, it's kind of like the classic, if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Does it even matter?
Who are you getting your message across to? Who is benefiting and who loses when you do absolutely nothing, or "passively protest"?
Not making fun, or challenging motives, I just don't get that whole dealio.... So, in return, I'd appreciate not being talked to like I'm some fucking waterhead / hothead causing an issue....
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So, in return, I'd appreciate not being talked to like I'm some fucking waterhead / hothead causing an issue....
Why do you hate Waterheads?
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Seriously... Is doing absolutely nothing, in something like a Presidential election, then not telling anyone about it, sitting at home doing other things, really something that can be considered a passive protest? I think it's a good question.
So, in return, I'd appreciate not being talked to like I'm some fucking waterhead / hothead causing an issue....
What if you're smoking dope and watching Dr. Phil when you're at home? Isn't that some sort of rebellion?
BTW, 98% of your body is water. I think that includes your head.
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What if you're smoking dope and watching Dr. Phil when you're at home? Isn't that some sort of rebellion?
BTW, 98% of your body is water. I think that includes your head.
According to my ex wife, 90% of my brain is made up of empty space. If you ask me 90% of my body is made up of Miller Lite.
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Seriously... Is doing absolutely nothing, in something like a Presidential election, then not telling anyone about it, sitting at home doing other things, really something that can be considered a passive protest? I think it's a good question.
Point being, it's kind of like the classic, if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Does it even matter?
Who are you getting your message across to? Who is benefiting and who loses when you do absolutely nothing, or "passively protest"?
Not making fun, or challenging motives, I just don't get that whole dealio.... So, in return, I'd appreciate not being talked to like I'm some fucking waterhead / hothead causing an issue....
In all seriousness I think that "passive protest" is a basic non-sequitur; to protest something implies to outwardly respond to it; maybe in a violent way or in a passive way.
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In all seriousness I think that "passive protest" is a basic non-sequitur; to protest something implies to outwardly respond to it; maybe in a violent way or in a passive way.
Exactly, in other words, a contradiction in terms. :bar: