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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: bgreene on November 23, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
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This is where we are headed as a bunch of pansies.
Maskless man seen exhaling on women outside Trump golf club charged with assault
A man has been charged with misdemeanor assault after he was seen forcefully exhaling on two women outside of President Donald Trump's golf course in Virginia.
In video footage (https://twitter.com/DougChristianDC/status/1330209018367926273) now widely shared on social media, Raymond Deskins, 61, intentionally blows air on the unidentified women when one asks him to get away and points out that he's not wearing a mask.
“That's assault†one of the women says afterwards.
“I breathed on you,†Deskins replies.
Virginia mandates masks be worn in certain areas to stop the spread of the coronavirus, but they are not required outdoors.
The altercation occurred Saturday outside of Trump National Golf Club in Loudoun County, Va., where the president was playing. Protestors and supporters regularly gather outside the club’s entrance when he plays.
Deskins was seen wearing a pro-Trump shirt and inflatable pool tube around his waist. In a letter (https://twitter.com/PRandallcares/status/1330580900908818435), several members of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors signed and sent to law enforcement Sunday, the two women were described as protesting the president at the time of the incident.
The letter, written by Chair-at-Large Phyllis Randall, also asked for a full investigation.
"We are in a hundred-year, highly contagious, worldwide pandemic of a deadly virus that has killed more than 250,000 Americans," Randall wrote (https://twitter.com/PRandallcares/status/1330580900908818435/photo/1). "Not wearing [a mask] and not social distancing, is clearly irresponsible. Willfully coughing in someone's face is clearly dangerous."
The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office said (https://twitter.com/LoudounSheriff/status/1330569929192517635) the altercation was investigated at the scene — but was "not witnessed by law enforcement and the video did not capture the entire interaction." The sheriff's office advised both parties that they could seek a citizen obtained warrant through a county magistrate.
Deskins was charged with misdemeanor assault Sunday after such a warrant was obtained.
FOX 5 DC (https://www.fox5dc.com/news/loudoun-cops-say-victim-can-seek-citizens-arrest-after-bizarre-encounter-with-trump-supporter) identified one of the women as Kathy Beynette. Beynette told the station (https://www.fox5dc.com/news/loudoun-cops-say-victim-can-seek-citizens-arrest-after-bizarre-encounter-with-trump-supporter) that "the incident itself came so out of nowhere that it was shocking," adding that Deskins approached them without prior conversation.
Both FOX 5 and the Associated Press were unable to reach to Deskins for comment Sunday.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maskless-man-seen-exhaling-on-women-outside-trump-golf-club-charged-with-assault/ar-BB1bhDZt?ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maskless-man-seen-exhaling-on-women-outside-trump-golf-club-charged-with-assault/ar-BB1bhDZt?ocid=ientp)
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That is an assault.
Depending on his infection status and knowledge thereof, some jurisdictions have heightened punishments.
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What if he has no infection? Only bad breath?
Is it still assault?
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What if he has no infection? Only bad breath?
Is it still assault?
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.
Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
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The letter, written by Chair-at-Large Phyllis Randall, also asked for a full investigation.
"We are in a hundred-year, highly contagious, worldwide pandemic of a deadly virus that has killed more than 250,000 Americans," Randall wrote (https://twitter.com/PRandallcares/status/1330580900908818435/photo/1). "Not wearing [a mask] and not social distancing, is clearly irresponsible. Willfully coughing in someone's face is clearly dangerous."
The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office said (https://twitter.com/LoudounSheriff/status/1330569929192517635) the altercation was investigated at the scene — but was "not witnessed by law enforcement and the video did not capture the entire interaction." The sheriff's office advised both parties that they could seek a citizen obtained warrant through a county magistrate.
I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that. The actual number is probably less than 1/10th of that dumb fuck figure.
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Every single one of you mask wearers can suck on my dingus. I'm not doing it. I won't be fucking herded. They don't work anyway. It's 99% bullshit from the jump.
Yesterday entering a store, told I had to wear one because (again with the bullshit) it's a "state law."
Negative ghostrider. No law. Come at me with "we want you to because it's store policy" and maybe you persuade me. State law? Fuck off. They let it go.
Get to the checkout and damn teenage girl standing in a plexiglass bubble refuses to ring up my purchase unless I wear a mask.
So I calmly explain to her that in the five minutes I was waiting in line, I observed her handle multiple packages, cash and cards including an assortment of items from a couple who looked as if their last bath was months ago. So when she went to the restroom, washed her hands, put on gloves and sanitized my merchandise we could have a conversation about masks.
She called the manager.
He rang me up politely, floated the "it's a national law" fuckery -- which I immediately refuted -- and then said I'd be better served not coming back unless I was willing to put a mask on.
I told him that when he was unemployed because shoppers had been driven online for purchases rather than doing their shopping in-store, I wanted him to think back and remember this moment.
He said "never happen" and walked off.
I might be alone, but I don't have to go to their store. I did so because I wanted to. I don't any more.
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That is an assault.
Depending on his infection status and knowledge thereof, some jurisdictions have heightened punishments.
Give me a 12 pack of Busch light and some gas station tacos and I’ll assault a motherfucker alright.
Try me.
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Every single one of you mask wearers can suck on my dingus. I'm not doing it. I won't be fucking herded. They don't work anyway. It's 99% bullshit from the jump.
Yesterday entering a store, told I had to wear one because (again with the bullshit) it's a "state law."
Negative ghostrider. No law. Come at me with "we want you to because it's store policy" and maybe you persuade me. State law? Fuck off. They let it go.
Get to the checkout and damn teenage girl standing in a plexiglass bubble refuses to ring up my purchase unless I wear a mask.
So I calmly explain to her that in the five minutes I was waiting in line, I observed her handle multiple packages, cash and cards including an assortment of items from a couple who looked as if their last bath was months ago. So when she went to the restroom, washed her hands, put on gloves and sanitized my merchandise we could have a conversation about masks.
She called the manager.
He rang me up politely, floated the "it's a national law" fuckery -- which I immediately refuted -- and then said I'd be better served not coming back unless I was willing to put a mask on.
I told him that when he was unemployed because shoppers had been driven online for purchases rather than doing their shopping in-store, I wanted him to think back and remember this moment.
He said "never happen" and walked off.
I might be alone, but I don't have to go to their store. I did so because I wanted to. I don't any more.
I think you should just wear your old high school football helmet.
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I think you should just wear your old high school football helmet.
Kaos heading to the grocery store...
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Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.
Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
Do you realize what a slippery Orwellian slope this is going down??
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Now this shit is assault!
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Do you realize what a slippery Orwellian slope this is going down??
Sorry to break the news to you, but what you quoted is about 350 years of English Common law.
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Sorry to break the news to you, but what you quoted is about 350 years of English Common law.
There's a difference between "the law" and the application thereof.
You know that.
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There's a difference between "the law" and the application thereof.
You know that.
I'm saying the law, as articulated above, has been enforced for about that long.
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I'm saying the law, as articulated above, has been enforced for about that long.
Yep. Most people associate assault with a physical touching (Mmmmm.....physical touching), but like you said above, raising your fist as if to bitch slap-a-ho, rises to the level of assault if said ho was actually was in fear of said bitch slap.
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Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-6-22
(a) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:
(1) With intent to cause physical injury to another person, he causes physical injury to any person;  or
(2) He recklessly causes physical injury to another person;  or
(3) With criminal negligence he causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument;  or
(4) With intent to prevent a peace officer from performing a lawful duty, he causes physical injury to any person.
(b) Assault in the third degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
I would assume that most states code for assault is very similar to this.
Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.
Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
And we all know how well the judges are about making up or changing laws to benefit themselves or an agenda and this has agenda written all over it.
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Depends on the jurisdiction's particular language, but probably yes.
Generally speaking an assault is the creation of apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Actually touching someone gives rise to a second tort: battery.
Then some of you done second torted my dick with your lips.
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Yep. Most people associate assault with a physical touching (Mmmmm.....physical touching), but like you said above, raising your fist as if to bitch slap-a-ho, rises to the level of assault if said ho was actually was in fear of said bitch slap.
I do not know where these motherfuckers live that they claim an open handed or back handed slap on a bitch is assault but I definitely don’t want to live there. Ridiculous.
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I do not know where these motherfuckers live that they claim an open handed or back handed slap on a bitch is assault but I definitely don’t want to live there. Ridiculous.
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I'm saying the law, as articulated above, has been enforced for about that long.
No. Nobody in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2019 was ever charged with assault for breathing.
So you can stop that right there.
Again, it's the application (aka interpretation) of what constitutes those offenses. You know as well as I do that it's sliding well past overreach.
Don't wear a mask? OMG he assaulted me with his uncovered face!!!
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No. Nobody in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2019 was ever charged with assault for breathing.
So you can stop that right there.
Again, it's the application (aka interpretation) of what constitutes those offenses. You know as well as I do that it's sliding well past overreach.
Don't wear a mask? OMG he assaulted me with his uncovered face!!!
U-G-L-Y You ain't got no alibi. You ugly, yeah yeah you ugly.
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Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-6-22
(a) A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:
(1) With intent to cause physical injury to another person, he causes physical injury to any person;  or
(2) He recklessly causes physical injury to another person;  or
(3) With criminal negligence he causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument;  or
(4) With intent to prevent a peace officer from performing a lawful duty, he causes physical injury to any person.
(b) Assault in the third degree is a Class A misdemeanor.
I would assume that most states code for assault is very similar to this.
And we all know how well the judges are about making up or changing laws to benefit themselves or an agenda and this has agenda written all over it.
And 13A-6-23 says:
(a) A person commits the crime of menacing if, by physical action, he intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.
But thanks for selectively quoting statutes at me. Predictably, Alabama has a stronger standard for simple assault...but then flag burning is still a law under this section...so.
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No. Nobody in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2019 was ever charged with assault for breathing.
So you can stop that right there.
Again, it's the application (aka interpretation) of what constitutes those offenses. You know as well as I do that it's sliding well past overreach.
Don't wear a mask? OMG he assaulted me with his uncovered face!!!
I'm not cite-checking you, but I'll bet you're wrong from about 2010 forward.
We know more about aerosol-spread than we used to and our application of established law evolves. So, yeah, you're just fucking wrong here.
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I'm not cite-checking you, but I'll bet you're wrong from about 2010 forward.
We know more about aerosol-spread than we used to and our application of established law evolves. So, yeah, you're just fucking wrong here.
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Look who thinks we're stupid.
Cite check away. Show me the "he breathed on me" assault charges from 2010-2020.
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And 13A-6-23 says:
(a) A person commits the crime of menacing if, by physical action, he intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious physical injury.
But thanks for selectively quoting statutes at me. Predictably, Alabama has a stronger standard for simple assault...but then flag burning is still a law under this section...so.
At no point in American history until... well... now... has this definition been stretched to the act of breathing.
I didn't mind it being stretched to knowingly attempting to infect someone with AIDS.
This? O.v.e.r.r.e.a.c.h. And it's only going to get worse because (no offense) people like you contort themselves to defend this absurdity as something legitimate.
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At no point in American history until... well... now... has this definition been stretched to the act of breathing.
Prove your assertion or plug your suck hole. You've become the most tiresome person ever.
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Prove your assertion or plug your suck hole. You've become the most tiresome person ever.
That's not how it works, fucko.
You want to counter, it can't be just "every one knows" or "I'm not going to look it up" or "the science is clear" because all of that is bullshit.
Go ahead. You said there were lots of cases, especially since we learned so much about aerosol transmission.
*snicker*
Let's hear about them all.
Oh, here. Let me help you. From the very fucking article that was cited:
Criminal defense lawyer Brad Haywood, a public defender in Arlington, says law enforcement might have hesitated because there is little precedent for this kind of case.
“It’s quite possible they look at this and they say, ‘I have never seen a case like this, where breathing constituted an assault and I’m not going to be the first one to get that snowball running down the hill,’†he says.
Should I point out a few words?
Never - "never seen a case like this"
Little - "little precedent"
First - "I'm not going to be the first one to get that snowball running..."
Full of shit, know it and assume affronted/superior attitude because you know you're accidentally dug a hole and can't get out of it.
That banging sound you heard was K to the A-the "a stands for always right" -OS slamming the door on your hand.
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That did sound like a liberal argument. They claimed something. You refuted it. Then they want you to prove their claim wrong. Hmmm.
I will lie and it will be the truth unless you prove it a lie?
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Wes, Straight up, this is an embarrassment to the legal profession. Almost as much as Snags.
You just got the shit kicked out of you by a man representing himself. One with no law degree. A self-made man.
I’m not saying I would have won. But I would’ve done better than this with even half a brain.
And you can bet your cute little fancy ass that I would’ve at least insulted his family and threatened physical harm after the verbal abuse got so bad that I had begun to cry. Damn, man. Fight back with something,
It is time to invest in a new thesaurus.
The court overwhelmingly rules in favor of Kaos but would have appreciated a better effort on your behalf.
All bsaside, you should probably consider another profession.
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Wes, Straight up, this is an embarrassment to the legal profession. Almost as much as Snags.
You just got the shit kicked out of you by a man representing himself. One with no law degree. A self-made man.
I’m not saying I would have won. But I would’ve done better than this with even half a brain.
And you can bet your cute little fancy ass that I would’ve at least insulted his family and threatened physical harm after the verbal abuse got so bad that I had begun to cry. Damn, man. Fight back with something,
It is time to invest in a new thesaurus.
The court overwhelmingly rules in favor of Kaos but would have appreciated a better effort on your behalf.
All bsaside, you should probably consider another profession.
I've watched almost every episode of Perry Mason, LA Law, Law & Order, Paper Chase, Better Call Saul, Rumpole of the Bailey, The Practice, Ally McBeal, and Matlock. I watched numerous episodes of Boston Legal. I've read all of John Grisham's books. I watched 12 Angry Men. I watched The Verdict, My Cousin Vinny, Witness for the Prosecution, Presumed Innocent, Lincoln Lawyer, and Devil's Advocate. I watched To Kill a Mockingbird like eight times.
I know big words like wherefore, forthwith, heretofore, heresay and actus reus.
I'd put my legal background up against anybody's.
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I've watched almost every episode of Perry Mason, LA Law, Law & Order, Paper Chase, Better Call Saul, Rumpole of the Bailey, The Practice, Ally McBeal, and Matlock. I watched numerous episodes of Boston Legal. I've read all of John Grisham's books. I watched 12 Angry Men. I watched The Verdict, My Cousin Vinny, Witness for the Prosecution, Presumed Innocent, Lincoln Lawyer, and Devil's Advocate. I watched To Kill a Mockingbird like eight times.
I know big words like wherefore, forthwith, heretofore, heresay and actus reus.
I'd put my legal background up against anybody's.
All kidding aside, I’m calling you next time I need a lawyer. I’d like to request a Matlock approach but whatever you deem most effective.
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All kidding aside, I’m calling you next time I need a lawyer. I’d like to request a Matlock approach but whatever you deem most effective.
In all seriousness? When I'm negotiating contracts and such with companies and organizations up north? The Matlock approach is the one I find most effective. Aw, shucks, just a country guy. They think they can get over usually. Being underestimated is always an advantage.
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In all seriousness? When I'm negotiating contracts and such with companies and organizations up north? The Matlock approach is the one I find most effective. Aw, shucks, just a country guy. They think they can get over usually. Being underestimated is always an advantage.
Like when she only thinks I got a stiff 3 and I spring an extra inch and an eighth on a bitch.
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. Being underestimated is always an advantage.
I want to reply with something about Gus, but just can't find the words.
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I want to reply with something about Gus, but just can't find the words.
I can't find the fucks to give about that. I'm completely out.
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No. Nobody in 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2019 was ever charged with assault for breathing.
Teh Google's is having a hard time of finding cases of assault by breathing on someone before 2020.
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Teh Google's is having a hard time of finding cases of assault by breathing on someone before 2020.
What about peeing on someone?
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Teh Google's is having a hard time of finding cases of assault by breathing on someone before 2020.
Maybe the fact checkers got 'em
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I can't find the fucks to give about that. I'm completely out.
I loaded mine up (like I am about to with my monies) and moved them.