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The Library => The SGA => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2020, 04:17:36 PM
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Now that it looks like the Dems will be mostly in power, there's immediately new talk about forgiving or wiping out student loans. Apparently, I'm the dim bulb because that raises so many questions for me.
1. Why?
2. Who qualifies? I've been out of law school for almost 20 years and I'm still paying monthly on the loans I had to take out. I'm betting I won't qualify. What do you think?
3. Aren't you effectively putting the loan companies out of business, or is the government going to pay them off?
4. Can I object to my tax dollars being used to pay for someone else's loan?
5. Why?
6. So, when they pay off, forgive or wipe out the loans, what happens next? Students still have to go to school in the future and they still have to pay for it. Is it just going to be this one lucky, entitled bunch who currently have student loans? How does that work?
7. Does this affect colleges in any way? Do they still get their money or do the Dems want all education to be free? If so, don't all colleges close down, or do my tax dollars start paying for every future student to go to college?
8. Why?
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Now that it looks like the Dems will be mostly in power, there's immediately new talk about forgiving or wiping out student loans. Apparently, I'm the dim bulb because that raises so many questions for me.
1. Why?
2. Who qualifies? I've been out of law school for almost 20 years and I'm still paying monthly on the loans I had to take out. I'm betting I won't qualify. What do you think?
3. Aren't you effectively putting the loan companies out of business, or is the government going to pay them off?
4. Can I object to my tax dollars being used to pay for someone else's loan?
5. Why?
6. So, when they pay off, forgive or wipe out the loans, what happens next? Students still have to go to school in the future and they still have to pay for it. Is it just going to be this one lucky, entitled bunch who currently have student loans? How does that work?
7. Does this affect colleges in any way? Do they still get their money or do the Dems want all education to be free? If so, don't all colleges close down, or do my tax dollars start paying for every future student to go to college?
8. Why?
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RACIST! XENOPHOBE!
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RACIST! XENOPHOBE!
Well I'm also an Anti-Dentite. What's your point?
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Now that it looks like the Dems will be mostly in power, there's immediately new talk about forgiving or wiping out student loans. Apparently, I'm the dim bulb because that raises so many questions for me.
1. Why?
2. Who qualifies? I've been out of law school for almost 20 years and I'm still paying monthly on the loans I had to take out. I'm betting I won't qualify. What do you think? No you make too much money
3. Aren't you effectively putting the loan companies out of business, or is the government going to pay them off? yes, maybe but pennies on the dollar
4. Can I object to my tax dollars being used to pay for someone else's loan? No, do as your told
5. Why?
6. So, when they pay off, forgive or wipe out the loans, what happens next? Students still have to go to school in the future and they still have to pay for it. Is it just going to be this one lucky, entitled bunch who currently have student loans? How does that work? College be free, they have not thought out the details
7. Does this affect colleges in any way? Do they still get their money or do the Dems want all education to be free? If so, don't all colleges close down, or do my tax dollars start paying for every future student to go to college? College be free, they have not though out the details.
8. Why?
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Now that it looks like the Dems will be mostly in power, there's immediately new talk about forgiving or wiping out student loans. Apparently, I'm the dim bulb because that raises so many questions for me.
1. Why?
2. Who qualifies? I've been out of law school for almost 20 years and I'm still paying monthly on the loans I had to take out. I'm betting I won't qualify. What do you think?
3. Aren't you effectively putting the loan companies out of business, or is the government going to pay them off?
4. Can I object to my tax dollars being used to pay for someone else's loan?
5. Why?
6. So, when they pay off, forgive or wipe out the loans, what happens next? Students still have to go to school in the future and they still have to pay for it. Is it just going to be this one lucky, entitled bunch who currently have student loans? How does that work?
7. Does this affect colleges in any way? Do they still get their money or do the Dems want all education to be free? If so, don't all colleges close down, or do my tax dollars start paying for every future student to go to college?
8. Why?
Questions 2, 4, 6 and 7 got my daughter essentially blackballed at Montevallo when her professor ridiculed her for asking and tagged her with a derogatory name that rhymes with ditch witch.
It's why she transferred out.
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Tailgating hit the nail on the head. There's no way anybody proposing this could have given this any thought after, "Hey, let's pay off all the student loans."
Great idea. Now what? There's a never ending flow of students from high school into college. What do you do with them? Is it just free, or do they say, "Sorry, you got here too late. But we paid for all those that came before you." I mean, you can't do it for some and not the rest, right?
I wish they would get this worked out so they can go on to reparations.
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Tailgating hit the nail on the head. There's no way anybody proposing this could have given this any thought after, "Hey, let's pay off all the student loans."
Great idea. Now what? There's a never ending flow of students from high school into college. What do you do with them? Is it just free, or do they say, "Sorry, you got here too late. But we paid for all those that came before you." I mean, you can't do it for some and not the rest, right?
I wish they would get this worked out so they can go on to reparations.
I'm gonna need my reparations from the Egyptians. I'm pretty sure I'm related to Moses.
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I'm gonna need my reparations from the Egyptians. I'm pretty sure I'm related to Moses.
Nobody knows the trouble I've seen.
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Why? Because they are going to get an entire generation of voters to vote “D.†That’s why.
I’d be open to reform in the college lending industry. I’d even be open to dropping the interest on government backed loans to zero, provided that if you default on a payment, then the interest rate jumps back up to your original terms.
But forgiveness? No. I didn’t force you to go to college. Is it fair to take the taxes of an AC repairman in Peoria, IL, to pay for some kid’s tuition who went and studied gender studies?
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Why? Because they are going to get an entire generation of voters to vote “D.†That’s why.
I’d be open to reform in the college lending industry. I’d even be open to dropping the interest on government backed loans to zero, provided that if you default on a payment, then the interest rate jumps back up to your original terms.
But forgiveness? No. I didn’t force you to go to college. Is it fair to take the taxes of an AC repairman in Peoria, IL, to pay for some kid’s tuition who went and studied gender studies?
He has a DEGREE!!
And he's being forced to live with his mom and work at Starbucks because evil corporations won't pay a decent living WAGE. $15 an hour.
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It's not FAIR you capitalist PIG.
BTW? I used to work for a guy who snuck into America on a boat from Cuba. His dad -- a professor -- was jailed by Castro because he didn't support the regime. Dude went from nothing to American citizen, successful business man and now retired. He never saw his dad again.
Talked to him last week. This is his worst nightmare. The guy was a die-hard Trump supporter. Because he knows. He knows where this entitled bullshit leads. He's terrified of what's to come of his kids and grandkids.
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BTW? I used to work for a guy who snuck into America on a boat from Cuba. His dad -- a professor -- was jailed by Castro because he didn't support the regime. Dude went from nothing to American citizen, successful business man and now retired. He never saw his dad again.
Talked to him last week. This is his worst nightmare. The guy was a die-hard Trump supporter. Because he knows. He knows where this entitled bullshit leads. He's terrified of what's to come of his kids and grandkids.
My father in law was a lawyer in Cuba when Castro came to power. Fled here with his family before they he was sent to the gulag. Made a nice life for himself. He cannot believe what is going on here now.
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My father in law was a lawyer in Cuba when Castro came to power. Fled here with his family before they he was sent to the gulag. Made a nice life for himself. He cannot believe what is going on here now.
Cubans get it....because it's what they came from and once bitten twice shy. I like Cubans. Americans should take some notes from them.
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my two YUGGGGEEEE points here on this.....
1. No cost for this is ever mentioned. It will be astronomical. Its the elephant in the room really.
II. Its a BIG PANDER - period. Its a serious cradle to the grave brick in the bigger wall. Big Gov dependency being furthered (as K somewhat touched on)
ok, two more points:
C. as Snaggie said, what if you already went to school or have no debt any longer? you gonna extend this to mortgages for those folks? it just for college? what about tech school? community college? Specialty trade stuff? What if I wanna pay for it myself....BUT....if gubment is gonna pay it off anyway, hey lets go grab a loan ammarite? Sends a terrible message.
Quattro. as usual, no root cause here is being addressed....simply throwing more money at an issue that shouldn't have happened and isn't being prevented from happening again. College tuition and the cost of living while in college is simply too damn high now. Its increased exponentially against the normal cost of living. Why isn't the assrape dry act of these schools being addressed? They are money holes. They get crazy tuition, endowments, grants, state money, fed money, you name it. And all these dumb ass kids get is a debt that they demand we pay off. Drive these costs down, and a part time job can pay for most tuition believe it or not. We have a cost issue.....not a loan issue. The loan sharks are simply there out of demand.
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Cubans get it....because it's what they came from and once bitten twice shy. I like Cubans. Americans should take some notes from them.
Same here. There's a Deli in Montgomery that makes one you can barely get your hand around.
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Same here. There's a Deli in Montgomery that makes one you can barely get your hand around.
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Lets face it....you like that pickle on top. The sandwich is simply a pedestal
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Lets face it....you like that pickle on top. The sandwich is simply a pedestal
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Look...we need free college so we can all make $15 an hour when we graduate into our jobs on the Green Society, where we try to figure out how to time travel to Mars on farting cows. What don't you get about that, damn evil greedy Capitalist pigs?
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Look...we need free college so we can all make $15 an hour when we graduate into our jobs on the Green Society, where we try to figure out how to time travel to Mars on farting cows. What don't you get about that, damn evil greedy Capitalist pigs?
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Why does a college degree cost so much? Well, because the expectation of parents sending folks to college and folks attending university is that the place needs to provide all the necessities and amenities of a functioning city. And to do that and have it run with any kind of efficiency, the university has to have infrastructure in place that is not only meeting that demand but building towards the next projected set of demands. And there has to be a workforce (not faculty) to make that happen. Those folks don't make a ton but they don't work for free either. It's not just "go to school, get your learn on, get a job and leave." It's not a transactional thing happening in spite of what the idiots in D.C. tell you on the flat screen. So if you want college to be cheaper, then it'll be a couple doublewides in a field with enough electricity to keep the lights on while someone teaches subjects. Those attending will be left to their own devices to figure out what to do with it. Have you talked to many 18-22 year olds lately? Not exactly the most "make a plan and follow through with it" bunch out there, I can assure you.
Side bar - cancelling student debt is a stupid clickbait power grab move and will never be allowed to happen.
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Why does a college degree cost so much? Well, because the expectation of parents sending folks to college and folks attending university is that the place needs to provide all the necessities and amenities of a functioning city. And to do that and have it run with any kind of efficiency, the university has to have infrastructure in place that is not only meeting that demand but building towards the next projected set of demands. And there has to be a workforce (not faculty) to make that happen. Those folks don't make a ton but they don't work for free either. It's not just "go to school, get your learn on, get a job and leave." It's not a transactional thing happening in spite of what the idiots in D.C. tell you on the flat screen. So if you want college to be cheaper, then it'll be a couple doublewides in a field with enough electricity to keep the lights on while someone teaches subjects. Those attending will be left to their own devices to figure out what to do with it. Have you talked to many 18-22 year olds lately? Not exactly the most "make a plan and follow through with it" bunch out there, I can assure you.
Side bar - cancelling student debt is a stupid clickbait power grab move and will never be allowed to happen.
Legit points made ^^ but why has it just now gotten like this? It was not like this to this degree when I attended Auburn in the mid late 90s and I thought I had plenty there on campus to be successful. In fact I loved it. It had what I needed. The astronomical rise has really happened since the turn of the century. Are all these ammentities really needed? Or is this simply a product of the arms race and elite libtard professors demanding 120K for teaching two 400 level classes a semester? Even if they have the word emeritus in their title. I think its multiple things.....but I can tell you this - the cost of it cannot sustain at this rate. There is no way to sugarcoat it - it is entirely too expensive compared to other things in society.
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Legit points made ^^ but why has it just now gotten like this? It was not like this to this degree when I attended Auburn in the mid late 90s and I thought I had plenty there on campus to be successful. In fact I loved it. It had what I needed. The astronomical rise has really happened since the turn of the century. Are all these ammentities really needed? Or is this simply a product of the arms race and elite libtard professors demanding 120K for teaching two 400 level classes a semester? Even if they have the word emeritus in their title. I think its multiple things.....but I can tell you this - the cost of it cannot sustain at this rate. There is no way to sugarcoat it - it is entirely too expensive compared to other things in society.
It's part the demand of faculty and part the change in demands of what students/parents expect and demand. Why wasn't it there when we were in school? We didn't expect it or demand it. Is it really needed? Debatable but it's what is there. Is it sustainable? Nope but neither is the deficit spending jag our Fed and State govts have been on since Reagan left office.
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Why does a college degree cost so much? Well, because 1) the expectation of parents sending folks to college and folks attending university is that the place needs to provide all the necessities and amenities of a functioning city. And to do that and have it run with any kind of efficiency, the university has to have infrastructure in place that is not only meeting that demand but building towards the next projected set of demands. And there has to be a workforce (not faculty) to make that happen. Those folks don't make a ton but they don't work for free either. It's not just "go to school, get your learn on, get a job and leave." It's not a transactional thing happening in spite of what the idiots in D.C. tell you on the flat screen. So if you want college to be cheaper, then it'll be a couple doublewides in a field with enough electricity to keep the lights on while someone teaches subjects. Those attending will be left to their own devices to figure out what to do with it. Have you talked to many 18-22 year olds lately? Not exactly the most "make a plan and follow through with it" bunch out there, I can assure you.
Side bar - cancelling student debt is a stupid clickbait power grab move and will never be allowed to happen.
To your points:
1) That is only partially true. That expectation was created by colleges themselves in an arms race to one-up the competition. It wasn't something parents demanded, it was something the colleges created as a selling point to attract stupid parents. Forget the quality of education, there's a QUIZNOS in the student union!! I saw that coming even when I was in school. There was a cafeteria that served three squares, but then Taco Bell, Wendys and some other sandwich place took over part of the student union. Then they built a bowling alley (that few people ever used), a room for darts and all this other shit nobody asked for in an effort to attract students. It wasn't something we or the parents demanded, some dipshit bureaucrat did it.
2) There's a whole thing there. We're not forcing kids to make hard choices and we're not forcing them to deal with the consequences. If my daughter had come to me and said she wanted to get a degree in Cultural Development of the Indigo Indians I would have told her no. You have to make a living and you can't shove $40k up a wild hog's ass and not be able to get a job when you're done. There's nothing wrong with that knowledge, but you can't make it your primary. Get a degree in something that gives you an opportunity to support yourself and add supplemental courses on the Indigos if that's something that moves you. Too many parents now allow their kids to do whatthefuckever. Expand your thinking! Pursue your passion! The "passion" of most college age kids is fueled by alcohol and genital juices. They don't know. Reality. How many (other than you damn lawyers) are doing what you started college to do? Apprenticeships are the way to go. College? The way it's structured now? It's horse shit and a waste of money.
3) If they cancel student debt, I want a refund for all that I've paid for me and both my kids. I also want my parents to get a refund for mine. And Moses. He needs some since we're related.
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Legit points made ^^ but why has it just now gotten like this? It was not like this to this degree when I attended Auburn in the mid late 90s and I thought I had plenty there on campus to be successful. In fact I loved it. It had what I needed. The astronomical rise has really happened since the turn of the century. Are all these ammentities really needed? Or is this simply a product of the arms race and elite libtard professors demanding 120K for teaching two 400 level classes a semester? Even if they have the word emeritus in their title. I think its multiple things.....but I can tell you this - the cost of it cannot sustain at this rate. There is no way to sugarcoat it - it is entirely too expensive compared to other things in society.
Point of fact....case in point.....quid pro quo....whatever.
A niece of mine will be starting at the AU in the Fall. The fam just got an apartment which she will share with 3 other girls. The rent is $800.00/month....apiece. Landlords no longer charge a flat rate for a place, it's per person. So this landlord is getting $3,200.00 a month. Why? Because they can.
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Point of fact....case in point.....quid pro quo....whatever.
A niece of mine will be starting at the AU in the Fall. The fam just got an apartment which she will share with 3 other girls. The rent is $800.00/month....apiece. Landlords no longer charge a flat rate for a place, it's per person. So this landlord is getting $3,200.00 a month. Why? Because they can.
Damn! Who wants to build some apartments in Auburn?
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Point of fact....case in point.....quid pro quo....whatever.
A niece of mine will be starting at the AU in the Fall. The fam just got an apartment which she will share with 3 other girls. The rent is $800.00/month....apiece. Landlords no longer charge a flat rate for a place, it's per person. So this landlord is getting $3,200.00 a month. Why? Because they can.
And I thought the $575 a month I was shelling out for a 3br for mini was bad...dayummm.
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And I thought the $575 a month I was shelling out for a 3br for mini was bad...dayummm.
Where is he at?
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Sorry fellow. Facebooks rule not influenced election allow. Try help Donald John but Sleepy and black woman cheat.
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Where is he at?
JSU
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JSU
Mississippi is a long way but if he likes the brown people, more power to him.
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Damn! Who wants to build some apartments in Auburn?
I'm your huckleberry. As long as we build into the project a "developer's unit", paid for by the association dues and exempt from all association rules.
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I'm your huckleberry. As long as we build into the project a "developer's unit", paid for by the association dues and exempt from all association rules.
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Mississippi is a long way but if he likes the brown people, more power to him.
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I think it says a lot about Buzz that he would raise a black kid.
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Point of fact....case in point.....quid pro quo....whatever.
A niece of mine will be starting at the AU in the Fall. The fam just got an apartment which she will share with 3 other girls. The rent is $800.00/month....apiece. Landlords no longer charge a flat rate for a place, it's per person. So this landlord is getting $3,200.00 a month. Why? Because they can.
The new apts being built downtown are like $1200/math with a waiting list. It’s ridiculous.
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I'm your huckleberry. As long as we build into the project a "developer's unit", paid for by the association dues and exempt from all association rules.
We shall put it in the covenants
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Y'all pivoted real quick from "college costs too much" to the "rent is too damn high." It is, by the way. Yet another thing about Auburn (the town) that has transformed the mystique of the "loveliest village on the plains" to a corporate construction paradise.
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Y'all pivoted real quick from "college costs too much" to the "rent is too damn high." It is, by the way. Yet another thing about Auburn (the town) that has transformed the mystique of the "loveliest village on the plains" to a corporate construction paradise.
This really is a sad fact of Auburn. I believe it bothers me more than Gus’ buyout. At the same time, I’m a capitalist pig. So, I will just deal with the changes.
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Y'all pivoted real quick from "college costs too much" to the "rent is too damn high." It is, by the way. Yet another thing about Auburn (the town) that has transformed the mystique of the "loveliest village on the plains" to a corporate construction paradise.
it’s both.
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I went to a few sites to check the current average costs of a 4 year degree at Auburn. This takes into account living in on-campus housing. These figures are for the 2018-2019 school years and come from collegecalc.org
Tuition: $11,276.00
Housing: $13,332.00
Books/Supplies: $1,200.00
Food/Expenses etc.: $5,782.00
Total Per Year: $31,590.00
Four Year Total Costs: $126,360.00
The average annual cost for out-of-state students is just over $50,000.00. Auburn currently has 30,460 in total enrollment. In doing some Chizad math and using the in-state tuition amount, Auburn is taking in $343,466.960.00 annually in tuition alone.
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I went to a few sites to check the current average costs of a 4 year degree at Auburn. This takes into account living in on-campus housing. These figures are for the 2018-2019 school years and come from collegecalc.org
Tuition: $11,276.00
Housing: $13,332.00
Books/Supplies: $1,200.00
Food/Expenses etc.: $5,782.00
Total Per Year: $31,590.00
Four Year Total Costs: $126,360.00
The average annual cost for out-of-state students is just over $50,000.00. Auburn currently has 30,460 in total enrollment. In doing some Chizad math and using the in-state tuition amount, Auburn is taking in $343,466.960.00 annually in tuition alone.
Believe me, this is conservative. My son is up there. Your list does not include, spice, weed or hallucinogens.
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I went to a few sites to check the current average costs of a 4 year degree at Auburn. This takes into account living in on-campus housing. These figures are for the 2018-2019 school years and come from collegecalc.org
Tuition: $11,276.00
Housing: $13,332.00
Books/Supplies: $1,200.00
Food/Expenses etc.: $5,782.00
Total Per Year: $31,590.00
Four Year Total Costs: $126,360.00
The average annual cost for out-of-state students is just over $50,000.00. Auburn currently has 30,460 in total enrollment. In doing some Chizad math and using the in-state tuition amount, Auburn is taking in $343,466.960.00 annually in tuition alone.
Mini wanted to go there too, but he got some scholly money at Jacksonville. We had been told to plan for $40K annually. Thankfully he opted for the scholarship money and now it will only cost us around $18K annually. That's still twice my salary...
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Mini wanted to go there too, but he got some scholly money at Jacksonville. We had been told to plan for $40K annually. Thankfully he opted for the scholarship money and now it will only cost us around $18K annually. That's still twice my salary...
Damn. When did you get a raise?
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I went to a few sites to check the current average costs of a 4 year degree at Auburn. This takes into account living in on-campus housing. These figures are for the 2018-2019 school years and come from collegecalc.org
Tuition: $11,276.00
Housing: $13,332.00
Books/Supplies: $1,200.00
Food/Expenses etc.: $5,782.00
Total Per Year: $31,590.00
Four Year Total Costs: $126,360.00
The average annual cost for out-of-state students is just over $50,000.00. Auburn currently has 30,460 in total enrollment. In doing some Chizad math and using the in-state tuition amount, Auburn is taking in $343,466.960.00 annually in tuition alone.
What the libs that run the education system have yet to figure out is that government paid for college will work the same as medicaid. Auburn may bill the government $31,590/year but they will only get paid a small fraction of that money. Salaries for professors will be forced down, services and amenities for students will dry up, and private institutions that do not take government money for tuition will start to thrive.
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The average annual cost for out-of-state students is just over $50,000.00.
And sadly, Auburn is the only school that does nothing to alleviate the tuition cost for out of state students. At Bama, if you score a 27+ on your ACT, and you live out of state, they start reducing the cost of out of state tuition. At Arkansas, if you live in a state that borders Arkansas, and you maintain a 3.40 GPA or higher, they will charge you in-state tuition. Ole Miss does something similar to what Bama does, with regards to the ACT score.
The other thing to remember with the rising cost of tuition, it that it's also easier to get grants/scholarships than when we all went to Auburn. Yes, it's expensive, I won't deny that, but there are avenues to make the cost lower.
Edit to add: Auburn is also the only school that does nothing to actively recruit in the Missouri market. Bama rented out Busch Stadium summer 2018 to have any high school senior come visit. Ole Miss and Miss State do all kinds of shit around here. It's very frustrating to talk to parents we are friends with, and hear their kid is going to Bama "The tuition Bama offered is cheaper, even with out of state tuition, than it would be to go to Illinois."
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Mini wanted to go there too, but he got some scholly money at Jacksonville. We had been told to plan for $40K annually. Thankfully he opted for the scholarship money and now it will only cost us around $18K annually. That's still twice my salary...
As I said earlier, we're trying to make sure our Mini (6'2") gets as much at JC as possible while living at home. My parents bought the PACT plan for our kids when they were born, so there will be a good bit of help with the tuition. Won't come close to knocking it out but it will help. I've been putting away a few duckies every month for years and we're hoping that will get us close to the end without having to take out a second mortgage and/or start a child trafficking business. Lots of kids playing at the end of our street.
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Lots of kids playing at the end of our street.
Not for long
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And sadly, Auburn is the only school that does nothing to alleviate the tuition cost for out of state students. At Bama, if you score a 27+ on your ACT, and you live out of state, they start reducing the cost of out of state tuition. At Arkansas, if you live in a state that borders Arkansas, and you maintain a 3.40 GPA or higher, they will charge you in-state tuition. Ole Miss does something similar to what Bama does, with regards to the ACT score.
The other thing to remember with the rising cost of tuition, it that it's also easier to get grants/scholarships than when we all went to Auburn. Yes, it's expensive, I won't deny that, but there are avenues to make the cost lower.
Edit to add: Auburn is also the only school that does nothing to actively recruit in the Missouri market. Bama rented out Busch Stadium summer 2018 to have any high school senior come visit. Ole Miss and Miss State do all kinds of shit around here. It's very frustrating to talk to parents we are friends with, and hear their kid is going to Bama "The tuition Bama offered is cheaper, even with out of state tuition, than it would be to go to Illinois."
Another "way" Auburn has lost its way. Me and my cousin both went to AU - we both ran XC, he was on full scholly - joined ALUM, TUF, rah rah sisboombah, bought tickets...all that jazz - and they have totally snubbed their noses at our other next gen family members, meaning they seem to not care one way or the other..... I know of others who have had the same thing happen to their kids and family members after years of donating, supporting, legacy, etc.
Mine will go elsewhere. Oldest is going trade/technical/vocation route. Thats his thing.....doesnt like the traditional classroom thing....wants a skill or 3. Thats fine by me. Youngest will go Track Scholly route at D2 or D1AA level somewhere semi-local - Columbus State, Valdosta, Ga Southern, etc - unless she snaps her leg in 5 pieces between now and then.
I have zero desire to let mine step foot on a campus I don't even recognize anymore - in many ways...it pains me in fact.
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I have zero desire to let mine step foot on a campus I don't even recognize anymore - in many ways...it pains me in fact.
I think we are the outliers on this.
I loved Auburn for a long time. I still love THAT Auburn, but I don't know this one.
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I think we are the outliers on this.
I loved Auburn for a long time. I still love THAT Auburn, but I don't know this one.
If south Alabama offers a full track ride to the youngest, ill make sure to come visit though....
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If south Alabama offers a full track ride to the youngest, ill make sure to come visit though....
Check Springhill in Mobile. I've got connections with that track team. It's a good place to go.
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Damn. When did you get a raise?
I'm mopping the floors now, but soon I will be on the fries. That's when the big bucks start rolling in.
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I'm mopping the floors now, but soon I will be on the fries. That's when the big bucks start rolling in.
we need a new breading guy at the 280 Sylacagua location if you're interested
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I think we are the outliers on this.
I think there are more in that camp than you realize.
This shit started downhill when that bitch wife of Muse's started outlawing tailgaiting on the grass.
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Not for long
Mmm Hmmm
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I think we are the outliers on this.
I loved Auburn for a long time. I still love THAT Auburn, but I don't know this one.
I'm right there with you. I don't know the place anymore and it's not the same vibe as it was 25, 15, hell, even 5 years ago.
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Another "way" Auburn has lost its way. Me and my cousin both went to AU - we both ran XC, he was on full scholly - joined ALUM, TUF, rah rah sisboombah, bought tickets...all that jazz - and they have totally snubbed their noses at our other next gen family members, meaning they seem to not care one way or the other..... I know of others who have had the same thing happen to their kids and family members after years of donating, supporting, legacy, etc.
Mine will go elsewhere. Oldest is going trade/technical/vocation route. Thats his thing.....doesnt like the traditional classroom thing....wants a skill or 3. Thats fine by me. Youngest will go Track Scholly route at D2 or D1AA level somewhere semi-local - Columbus State, Valdosta, Ga Southern, etc - unless she snaps her leg in 5 pieces between now and then.
I have zero desire to let mine step foot on a campus I don't even recognize anymore - in many ways...it pains me in fact.
Buzz’s boy goes to a HBC. But he’s black.
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Buzz’s boy goes to a HBC. But he’s black.
Best halftime show you’ll ever see.
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The kids tell me this is natural for every generation. The things we remember and mourn aren’t the things they will. They say when you reach a certain age you tend to look at the past through a cloudy lens and fear the future because it’s more and more out of your control and because it doesn’t fit the way you think or lived. They assure me my grandparents and great grandparents felt the same end-of-the world sense of doom.
They point to the cesspool that was New York in the 70s and how they must have assumed the world was sinking into a satanic pit of debauchery.
Some of that is probably true. I’m sure every generation fears the fate of the world.
Then I remind them that Donald Trump and Rudy were two of the primary architects of that city’s revival.
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Another "way" Auburn has lost its way. Me and my cousin both went to AU - we both ran XC, he was on full scholly - joined ALUM, TUF, rah rah sisboombah, bought tickets...all that jazz - and they have totally snubbed their noses at our other next gen family members, meaning they seem to not care one way or the other..... I know of others who have had the same thing happen to their kids and family members after years of donating, supporting, legacy, etc.
Mine will go elsewhere. Oldest is going trade/technical/vocation route. Thats his thing.....doesnt like the traditional classroom thing....wants a skill or 3. Thats fine by me. Youngest will go Track Scholly route at D2 or D1AA level somewhere semi-local - Columbus State, Valdosta, Ga Southern, etc - unless she snaps her leg in 5 pieces between now and then.
I have zero desire to let mine step foot on a campus I don't even recognize anymore - in many ways...it pains me in fact.
My daughter wanted to cheer at AU. No way I was paying 27k for out of state tuition. Legacies get nothing at Alabama schools.
She went to Kennesaw State for two years(6K/yr). Cheered. Won two national championships and then decided to be a radiology tech. Much cheaper route.
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My daughter wanted to cheer at AU. No way I was paying 27k for out of state tuition. Legacies get nothing at Alabama schools.
She went to Kennesaw State for two years(6K/yr). Cheered. Won two national championships and then decided to be a radiology tech. Much cheaper route.
Hell yeah man. Congrats there. Good route. And yeah you’re right with the legacy thing. It’s a shame. I’ve heard from several I work with that Kennesaw is a pretty swell school.
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I'm mopping the floors now, but soon I will be on the fries. That's when the big bucks start rolling in.
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Son, I'm gonna tell you this just one time. If you wanna keep working here, stay off the drugs.
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Hell yeah man. Congrats there. Good route. And yeah you’re right with the legacy thing. It’s a shame. I’ve heard from several I work with that Kennesaw is a pretty swell school.
It’s turning into a liberal haven. I wonder how long before it becomes the next HBCU.